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Electric Motorcycle Inventor Crashes at Wired Conference
not5150 writes "The inventor of the electric 'KillaCycle" motorcycle was taken to the hospital for x-rays after demonstrating the vehicle to reporters. Bill Dube, a government scientist during the day and bike builder at night, attempted a burnout in front of the Los Angeles Convention Center during the Wired NextFest fair. Fueled by the "most powerful" lithium-ion batteries in the world, the bike accelerated uncontrollably into another car. There's a video interview (thankfully before the crash) and footage of Dube crashing."
My first thought was that he ran over the extension lead.
While the slashdot effect kills the video, there's some pictures and comments at gizmodo
As a professional stuntman, I can't stress enough how dangerous it is to perform these kinds of antics without appropriate training, preparation, and room.
The fact that he hit a parked minivan tells me quite a bit about the kinds of stupid risks he was taking. He's lucky that he's the only one that got hurt.
Does what it says on the tin.
It's a drag bike. After you do the quarter mile you slow down & stop.
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and vice versa
A product that can actually live up to it's name.
As a scientist, he should have known better than to not wear a helmet....
You are confusing me with someone who cares.
Well its not like you can only apply the power gradually like a petrol engine.
Of course you can. Do you have an electric fan? Does it always run at full speed? Or is there a little switch that lets you adjust the fan speed?
My understanding is that when you turn an electric engine on, that's it, full power full torque.
No. Electric motors can do that (which is nice in many applications), but they don't have to do that. It depends on how much voltage/current goes to the electric motor, and it's pretty easy to control voltage & current.
Remember aerodynamics too, 60-120 won't be as fast as 0-60 even with the same torque being applied. It does sounds awesome though, even if the inventor can't ride it
which is totally what she said
from the comments on the linked page:
I wasn't wearing a helment, because we did not intend the bike to even move!
We were spinning the tire in soapy water. The tire unexpectantly gripped, (water ran out?) and launched the bike. I couldn't get it shut down as quickly as I would have liked. I had to release the front brake to fully untwist the throttle. I then managed to slow it down to about 20 mph.
The positive message here is that when we crunched the battery pack, NOTHING happened. No smoke. No flames. Not even sparks. Not only are these cells more powerful, they are are the safest possible for automobiles.
Also, there was NO ONE in front of the bike or in the possible trajectory of the bike.
Bill Dube
The motorcyclist was using Sony cells and also suffered a bad burn to the groin.
This is actually very good free press for them, hope he recovers quick. Media loves accidents.
That's why Professor Frink's motorcycle flies through the air -- no cars to hit.
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Frink tests his new flying motorcycle.
Frink: Hello, son. You want to try the flying motorcycle I just invented?
Bart: No time.
Frink: Okay.
Later, Bart loses his skateboard in the wet cement.
Bart: I could sure use that flying motorcycle now.
Frink flies by.
Frink: You had your chance. Whoa-hai.
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... turning to the 3-D map, we see an unmistakable con
"I'm normally the crew chief and the owner, I don't ride it."
I was already going "oh dear..."
It doesn't matter if it'a KillaCycle, motorcycle, bicycle, or even a small car, because none of them are safe as long as they share the road with vehicles that are relatively so much more massive. If we want to realistically promote more efficient modes of transportation, then we should work to make the current hostile enviroments into safer ones.
Before you flame, I'm aware he wasn't wearing a helmet, was showing off with a burn out, was riding an prototype vehicle, and that the minivan was a parked. But instead of addressing the rare occurance this incident was, I wanted to address a common occurance, and provide a solution that we could actually take steps toward achieving.
You're erroneously assuming a constant acceleration: real-world dragstrip acceleration-time plots are anything but linear.
As to the time, 0-60 in 1 second is standard for drag cars or bikes running in the 7s on the quarter mile.
1/4 mile times like that are pretty good for an electric vehicle though.
There are a lot of videos of the thing in action at http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=KillaCycle. The thing is clearly not a scooter
It's really a bummer that he decided not to wear a helmet.
what? less than a second in 0-60??? what does that mean?
Max.
For a while, we have had electric cars and motorcycles that could go fast and reasonably far. Being able to crash them stupidly was probably the final thing needed to make them a success. And now that electric bikes have grown up to this level, linux on the desktop cannot be far off, can it?
Well its not like you can only apply the power gradually like a petrol engine. My understanding is that when you turn an electric engine on, that's it, full power full torque.
You can vary the amount of power sent to the motor, it is also possible to have motors with switchable windings to give different torque and speed settings. In the case of a vehicle such as a car or motorbike an electric motor can be connected via the same sort of gearbox you'd use with an internal combustion engine. Indeed the only real difference between a regular motorcycle and an all electric one is that the latter wouldn't need a starter.
Yes and no.
You can't easily apply gradually more power with high-power engines running on AC.
There are numerous tricks like switching configuration of the coils, using high-power thyrystors etc. You can't just put some resistance because it would be enormously wasteful. Some railway engines use "convert 1-phase AC from the wire to DC, then convert back to three-phase AC of desired frequency" making them actually more efficient than running on 1-phase AC straight from the wire.
But not in this case. The batteries produce DC. They can be switched one at a time to limit voltage(->torque) if it's a DC motor, or the conversion to AC can be freely configured providing frequency (->RPM) just as desired if the motor is AC.
(also note using all kinds of resistors, pots and other "power drains" for limiting current/voltage when such powers are in use, are useless - they would have to dissipate (and waste) enormous amounts of power. Devices that limit the "average" voltage by dutycycle method ( x% of a milisecond on, 100-x% of a milisecond time off => x% power) are much better but not every kind of end-target device can accept this kind of power, plus it generates lots of electromagnetic noise from all the instant on-off action )
Simply put, getting limiting voltage by a half in a 5V 10mA DC configuration is trivial - wasting 0.25W of power is not a problem. In 500V 10A DC configuration is very tricky. Dissipating 2500W is not really an option.
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Best wishes, I hope you get better soon.
But come on buddy, a little common sense, and remember you're a role model. *You* might have known what you're doing but lots of idiot teenagers would have been watching the footage of you doing this gig and other ones similar to it. They might take home the message that it's ok not to wear helmet and body armour. The fact that something did go wrong showed that you weren't completely in control.
Please, even if you're happy taking those risks, wear a helmet and body protection. You wouldn't use DIY power tools at home without safety gear so why take risks with your superbike? You seem like a nice guy, stick around for a bit longer so you can pick up your Darwin award and don't encourage idiot teenagers (or adults) to think its ok to do burns on stationary bikes without protection. You've just proved that it's not safe...
if its a 3 phase short circuit engine, which is likely, the torque goes down quick as rpm goes up. When rpm=0 its basically a short circuit condition, it will pull whatever power it can get (and handle for a short period of time).
I can't believe that got by my works proxy-server.
A goal is a dream with a deadline
Seriously, this guy is smart enough to design and build this bike in his spare time, but not to buy a fucking helmet??
I dunno. Probably something about parsecs.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Taking that in mind when I read this...I thought "Ok, I could maybe get by with a fairly silent car, but, NO WAY would this make a motorcycle fun"!!
I mean, that IS a huge part of the fun of a big cruiser bike. I'm not talking about straight pipes here...I know those annoy some people. I like loud things, but, I do try to respect my neighbors. But, really, first thing I think of when I get a new bike...is what aftermarket pipes I'm gonna get...to give me that rumble as I drive it.
I think an electric bike would be kinda boring in that respect. Sure, I guess you could sync some mp3's of good engine/exhaust notes with the motor...but, still.....something would be missing.
Hell..many people buy the Harley JUST for the "potato...potato...potato.." engine note and rumble. Didn't they even try to patent that?
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........