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Intel Releases Mashups for the Masses
News_and_info writes "Intel has released an online tool called Mash Maker with the intent of allowing anyone to create mashups. They offer some training on how to use it, but the tool is fairly easy to use out of the gate. I see it more as a rudimentary semantic browser. From the article: 'Mashups have still not really penetrated the mainstream. My mother is not using mashup sites, and she is definitely not creating them. Even if there was a mashup out there that did exactly what she wanted, the chances are that she wouldn't know it existed, and would be confused by it if she tried to use it ... With Mash Maker, mashups are part of the normal browsing experience. As you browse the web, the Mash Maker toolbar displays buttons representing mashups that Mash Maker thinks you might want to apply to your current page.'"
what is a mashup for those of us who dont subscribe to all this web2.0 nonsense?
Is to wire the balls of whoever thought up the word "mashup" to the mains supply and to shock them until they repent and take it back.
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Besides, you'd expect something like this (Software Research) from Microsoft or Google... But Intel?!
Sigs are for the weak.
This seems like it's ripe for abuse by people trying to drive web traffic to their sites. If the signal to noise ratio doesn't get out of hand almost instantly, I'll be surprised.
Wow! Now I can have Dictionary.com give me definitions of the names of all the streets in my town via Google Maps. Just what I need!
abusing sites this way can open you up to all sorts of legal problems. this is deep hyperlinking all over again... which is illegal btw....
Karma-whoring Wikipedia-link explanation of mashups. Thanks!
More power to those out there that edit wikis religiously, blog daily, use and create mashups, get their news through an RSS reader, can name their favorite 10 podcasts, share their Google calendars with their friends, have a FlickR and Delicious account, use 100 firefox plugins, and have an application-loaded Facebook among their many social networking sites - these can be some great tools with great utility to people.
But for some reason, this newfangled web doesn't seem to appeal to me, my friends, or anyone I know. I'm a Computer Science Masters student, and my friends work in industry. Am I backwards? Antiquated? Should I be mashing it up? I do it like I have for years - an xterm, an email app, an IM app, and a tabbed-to-the-hilt browser.
Did that demo video give anyone else an instant headache?
http://www.willitblend.com/ Will it Blend?
http://www.rense.com/general79/wdx1.htm
Note that it's Firefox-only. No Internet Explorer support.
Intel has lately started to move into Microsoft's space. Microsoft used to object when Intel did much with software on mainstream platforms, and Intel used to back off. Intel isn't backing off any more. Interesting.
Article summary could have had a few extra words summarizing what a "mashup" is. To me it sounds like what I do with my potatoes before I eat them.
> Intel Releases Mashups for the Masses
So is Slashdot the new BoingBoing?
older folks such as myself don't use this mashup crap because it sounds STUPID.
The name alone implies that it's some sort of hap-hazardly created frankenstein stuff that 10 year olds create.
The name does not indicate at all, in any way what a mashup is or does.
It just sounds stupid and totally un-professional.
No, I'm not trolling, this isn't flamebait, I'm giving MY take on it from the perspective of someone near 50 years old.
Why not call this stuff, what ever it is, by a name that gives people a sense of what it's about?
"my mother" "mashup" "tools" "mashup bars" "intel release" "mashup here, mashup there" "mash the mashing mash up" .....
/.ers' minds in the dead of the night.
your mother's mashup with what tools ? and intel ? what kind of slashdot pos is this ?
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All it takes is one malicious content source for a mashup site's security to be compromised.
Advice to users, stay away from mashups unless you trust its makers ensure third party content is 100% safe.
If you do end up using a mashup site, make sure that you observe all safe browsing tips, especially logging out of you web mail/banking services before entering.
Slashdot and Fark are the closest thing I need to a mashup. The second my life gets so complicated that I need 18 web site portions shoehorned into the next frankenstein's monster, that will be the day I move to the country and open a bakery.
Coincidentally, the day the computers can read what we're looking at and know us well enough to offer an even remotely successful guess at what comes next will be the day the computer decides it doesn't need me anymore. And I think we all know what happens when the computers decide they don't need us anymore.
And while I still have a bad attitude, I'll add that I'm getting tired of kids thinking they "made something". Listen, kid, did you actually make ANYTHING on that page? Besides the poorly written prose reflecting on whether or not Vanilla Ice really can dance better than any Kidd or Play, your page mostly looks like a combination of non-anti-aliased animated gifs that clash with your background and a few youtube videos that you didn't write, film, produce, rip, or even upload yourself, and only 50/50 chance you even found it yourself. Well job, newb, well job. Nevermind that you contributed maybe a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the total time it took to create that page.
Sorry for the ot in the third p, I'm still a little upset after being eye-raped by some myspace pages at work last week and then being told mine sucks because it's too plain. Heh, elegant simplicity, young padawan. Wisdom comes from typing less and reading more.
...they did the website mash
The website mash
It was a network smash!
Chris Mattern
We actually slashdotted Intel.
-- Put crudely, the world is an extremely large problem instance. (Russel/Norvig Artificial Intelligence)
I get the sense that if there is a large population of people who desire a site with a common set of features from two different sites one of those sites would simply add them on their own. Otherwise a third party would wind up simply ripping off the other's content.
Orchestr8 also released its personal mashup platform this past week, AlchemyPoint. It's similar to MashMaker in some ways but also offers a bunch of capabilities MashMaker doesn't, like the ability to visually scrape or cut-and-paste web content, even dynamic content (search results, etc.). The tool was reviewed favorably on Mashable earlier this week.
Businesspeople have taken to using the phrases,
The problem is, none of them seem to know what either of the above actually mean...
Hey, you leave Slashdot out of this! :)
Just when you thought Java and Flash banner ads, streaming audio/video imbedded, and other cruft out the arse made so many pages out there look overbusy and poorly arranged... enter mashups! Woohoo, look out MySpace, you're gonna get even more garbage-filled pages!
I had to look the word up. I was pretty sure this wasn't about combining two different artists' songs into one funky unit.
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Sorry I don't have mod points today. You seem to be the only one on this whole thread that happens to, actually, get it.
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There will be a larger number of IT tinkerers running Firefox than IE. Most IE users run it because they think it is "the internet". Anyone who has had the initiative to install FF or actually run a different operating system will be much more likely to give this a try.
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What in the fuck is a mashup ?
mashup It's a DJ (discus jockious) term that refers to a form of remixing done by playing at least two different musical recordings (usually on analog vinyl discs) at the same time... blending them into one hybrid sound. The most well known example would be DJ Dangermouse's "The Grey Album" which combined The Beatles' White Album w/ Jay-Z's Black Album. Though that was produced in a studio, chopped up and remixed. Most of the time you're just going to be trying to beatmatch/blend two tracks on the fly using the pitch control on your pair of technics 1200 turntables. Some dude probably went to a club with some cooler friends and had his mind blown by some 80s track mixed w/ something he heard off of MTV; then decided to use that as a buzzword at work for his new project.
I thought it was OK when "mash up" was the term coined for mixing two seperate songs together into one new remix, but this is getting ridiculously out of hand. This is almost as bad as people saying "that's da bomb", and the already ridiculous but bound to get more pervasive for the next year, "carbon footprint" buzzword.
I want a name...
And address would be handy.
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This Web 2.0 "hype" is largely a phantom, imo, and this Intel release re-confirms it for me. Web 2.0 only escapes the realm of vaporware in the sense that applications and uses are actually created under this hype, yet it all seems pretty shallow considering how not only more than one person on this page has admitted it ( I could easily ask a bunch of friends both living on the internet and not). The only time I seem to really notice the hype, honestly, is when calling it by the accepted name: Web 2.0 lol. While all of these things are being developed, most of it isn't being taken seriously (MySpace the most blatant example, but honestly, any site with a design like that is just going to fall flat of the finish line; would it kill them to have some negative space on that site, or maybe kill some of the seizure inducing themes who seem to really like clashing bright colors & 120 videos on one page).
I wouldn't call it all a waste; eventually the fallout of this almost imaginary Web 2.0 hype will be more useful as experience from trying to make such things work: Yahoo Pipes versus efficient knowledge of PHP, older designs that work well, manage a decent amount of both functional CSS and media and DO NOT BREAK vs. newer, unproven designs involving ad hock amounts of AJAX, CSS 2.Fail, experimental CSS 3, not entirely understood uses of Rails, etc. I mean, Pets.com failed for reasons (like many a dotcom); many of this stuff will to for similar reasons under different as well as similar circumstances.
All in all, I'm beginning to actually see, however, useful things develop amid this Web 2.0 business, mainly because it's beginning to look like it's going to start to die down soon, specifically:
Admitelly, I'm not a programmer just yet, but I find it excellent that I can somehow get my foot in (hopefully) in learning the concepts of actual programming with stuff I already know (HTML Mason being the best as HTML is dead simple, so I'd imagine picking up on some of Perl in context would help ease the stigma of learning how to use a programming language). Web 2.0 sites , specifically about CSS 2.0, I've found for the most part useful when they are A. Not repeating the same things, which is a rare that they don't and B. Are not spouting pro-CSS only zealot B.S. about how tables only "data" when by definition, everything you put on a webpage is "data" LoL!
CMS I also find a very good consequence of Web 2.0, as it's helping me get my grounding in finally managing a comic navigation system for a future project and learning some minor but nonetheless PHP along the way. In theory, it should help keep me active, just like this whole Web 2.0 thing is really all in theory. In theory, I could easily put up my entire daily life on LiveJournal, Facebook, etc. etc. But if I sign up for those things, I do not use them any where near to the extent others may imagine others, or myself imagined, using them. Personal barriers became established, the "trendy" feeling went away, friends just keep sending the same fucking mindless bulletins via myspace, spam fills the youetube inbox, etc. etc. I
But you can demand that Intel start releasing remixes combining multiple songs!!
How on earth are they going to remove the vocals from I Am The Walrus?
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Their mailer seems to have been ./ed, it keeps insisting it can't send me mail when it clearly hasn't tried.
Terrorists can attack freedom, but only Congress can destroy it.
http://hci.stanford.edu/research/mashups/index.html
Source-code examples of APIs enable developers to quickly gain a gestalt understanding of a librarys functionality, and they support organically creating applications by incrementally modifying a functional starting point. As an increasing number of web sites provide APIs, significant latent value lies in connecting the complementary representations between site and service in essence, enabling sites themselves to be the example corpus. We introduce d.mix, a tool for creating web mashups that leverages this site-to-service correspondence. With d.mix, users browse annotated web sites and select elements to sample. d.mixs sampling mechanism generates the underlying service calls that yield those elements. This code can be edited, executed, and shared in d.mixs wiki-based hosting environment. This sampling approach leverages pre-existing web sites as example sets and supports fluid composition and modification of examples. An initial study with eight participants found d.mix to enable rapid experimentation, and suggested avenues for improving its annotation mechanism.
I shall now refuse to sublimate the word 'mashup' to this web thingie and shall from here forth be unnamed.
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Can anyone point me to a mashup that is actually useful and doesn't involve google maps?
Yes, like others have said, we don't need the 20th iteration of "Mash-up Maker" that lets us link to Google maps and have yet another proof of concept. The best use for mashups are behind the firewall, bringing together diverse sources of data that everyone struggles with a work.
I have server logs, databases, wikis, sysedge data, snmp information, ticketing system information, and I have to visit 20 different web pages a day to get all my information. Now, mash THAT INFORMATION up and give it to me in one page, without too much programming, and you have something useful.
I thought that canned that show back in 80s.... I really hated that piece of American television. Wtf?
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"So... it's web services. The same thing that was tried and never really took off over the last few years,"
I doubt the people using the Amazon, Google, and Ebay API would agree with you. Not to mention all the businesses using Web services for their B2B.
"The name alone implies that it's some sort of hap-hazardly created frankenstein stuff that 10 year olds create."
I think you're being unduely harsh on the Gimp.
"It just sounds stupid and totally un-professional."
Ouch!
"Why not call this stuff, what ever it is, by a name that gives people a sense of what it's about?"
The Electric Crayon.
Mashup = putting google map into your webpage.
Yahoo Pipes does this much better AFAICT. And it's been around for almost a year now. AND it's a good place to look if you can't quite pin the meaning of this new buzzword called "Mashup". (I'll explain it in a different post)
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
Mashups target dynamic web-readiness and are often used to exploit visionary ROI in order to syndicate front-end systems. In order to exploit ubiquitous bandwidth Mashups can also be utilzed to unleash efficient e-business and envisioneer intuitive applications.
... (What really scares me that most of the above actually makes a strange sort of sense) ...
... God, I just *love* this tool ... ]
Hope that helps.
[Disclaimer: Large portions of this post where generated using the official Web Economy Bullshit Generator in order to aggregate web-enabled networks.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
Hehe that reminds me, when I got my first proper job I was sitting at a presentation where the PHB was drawing a chart on the whiteboard explaining how his new idea will make the product sell like hot-cakes. He said something like, "The concept is so simple, yet so addictive that our sales are sure to grow exponentially" and drew a straight line at 45 degrees to the axes. Now I was just out of college so I said instantly "But thats not exponential growth. Its linear." I remember the embarrassing silence that followed to this very day. (He actually cleaned the board and said "Thats not the point. The idea is...")
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After reading Intel's description of their product I have no interest, but the mashup idea, despite the stupid name, had its early expression in some really brilliant and useful work. Check out http://www.chicagocrime.org/ for a superb example. Of course, this was created by programming (using the nifty django framework, which uses python, by one of its creators) rather than by clicking on a toolbar.
I hope it has toolbar buttons for red AND white spud mashes.
mashups... wtf is with this trend?
Why is it "creative" to take pieces of something someone else created, smash/blend/mash them together with no technique or talent and pretend that this is a new and somehow viable piece of art? "Everyone's an artist now!" Shya.
Even with assemblage or other mix-creative techniques, the object was to take found objects and combine/juxtapose them in a way that illuminated a different facet or take on those objects or made a statement or comment by using one object to comment/focus on the other. Just throwing crap and paint against a wall doesn't make you Jackson Pollock, although it may make you some cash as a wallpaper or web designer.
Almost all of the "mashups" i have seen look more like television commercials: taking random bits of "what's fashionable/cool/trendy this week" and slicing them together, hoping for some random sequence that may or may not say anything other than to promote the ego/awareness of the supposed "creator" by showing how with-it/hip/cool/web 2.0 they are du jour.
No wonder most new games, movies and television are boring to tears - there's no creativity; just endless recycling. Two turds in a blender still make crap.
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