That's what distinguishes determinism from my definition of free will, namely: "not determinism".
Fixed that for you:)
It's a bad choice of identifier for this definition though, since the words are already in use.
That "you" would be able to predict someones actions in a deterministic universe is a really misleading intuition pump. As has been mentioned by another poster, that's wildly impossible for several physical reasons. Some abstruse godlike entity would be able to simulate our actions - that hardly makes them less free.
If your choice is governed by the mechanisms of a deterministic universe,
Not to pick on you personally (you're just describing things), but this loaded choice of words illustrates nicely what is the confusion in this debate (IMO).
"The laws of physics" aren't some bossy anthropomorphic entity "forcing" or "predetermining" choices for you. Physics is just a mode of looking at the world.
Your choices aren't "governed" by a deterministic universe. You are that universe (or part of it, anyway).
Beat me to it. IANAP, but I think that for extra mileage you could bang the oxygen together too (up to iron), but the engine will need some sturdy casing.
No offense, but as far as I can see you're refusing to take the badness of suffering as an axiom (let's not muddle this with the issue whether animals have consciousness. The idea here is conscious suffering, not the presence of receptors for physical pain); yet at the same time, your idea that anything with "ability to form hierarchical structures of abstract concepts" should have the right to "life, liberty and property" seems to be a simple assertion.
I'd rather take empathy and the prevention of suffering as an ethical primitive than that.
Similarly, you're deriding empathy as being an "evolved emotion", yet do you think that your striving for liberty and property has nothing to do with evolved emotions?
[...] The first is built up out of raw sense data, the second creates the same type of output stream, but based on predictions not sense data. The two streams are compared up to sixty times per second, and when they don't match, the experienced is raised up to conscious awareness. I've been suspecting something along those lines; illuminating that rather precise research has been done about it (incidentally, Armchair Neuroscience Kitten predicts that 5-HT2A receptors play an important role in the brain areas responsible for this system;)). Any recommended further reading?
I'd like to add that one's baseline levels of various emotions are to some degree genetically determined, and that it wouldn't be entirely unreasonable to think that these levels might somehow affect the utility ascribed to by the individual to the use of a substance.
IMO decisions aren't made in a vacuum, as some of the more black-and-white views here seem to imply.
"A and B are both not perfect, thus they are equally good"? You know, one could hold that open human rights violations are a weighty enough reason not to do business, whereas relatively minor flaws in a system aren't.
I'm baffled by this suggestion every time... I guess it isn't intended for people whose falling-asleep-time has a standard deviation on the order of said 90min:)
My point was that the GP was trying to intimate that halogen bulbs aren't a real fire hazard. No, he was indirectly replying to the guy who said that a 6000K streetlight would fry the people around it.
It is measured in seconds (no kidding) Better than the delay when you mistype your password on linux, which is set in frigging microseconds;)
(man pam_faildelay if you want to know how to set this). Why does this default to several seconds anyway? At a less annoying 100ms delay, it's still 345946 years to find a (uniformly picked) 8-letter, 62 chars password.
The name "Quantum Wikipedia" is complete bullshit. There is a huge difference between (...) Indeed. Serious cat confirms that this is undeniably a matter of utmost importance. I cannot stress this enough. Have you considered running for office on this platform? . . . . . . . . . Just fooling around, please don't take this seriously:)
IANAPharm, but I think you're worrying too much. You can't just add the amounts up over time. Your body has homeostatic mechanisms and I doubt ultra-low doses like that would make any "dent" in them. Just my wild uneducated guess.
Since people can't seem to voluntarily limit themselves to a sustainable level of reproduction Sorry for the language, but...
WTF are you talking about? Many countries have sub-replacement fertility rates, and in many of these this happens voluntarily, not due to either ressource scarcity or due to laws. 'nuff said (since the rest of your tirade depends on that point).
Quite the contrary, in some countries we encourage having children, in order to avoid future demographic problems.
You are harping on about principles and formalities that are non-issues except in theory, while in practice germany is a rather reasonable country regarding freedom of religion and other individual freedoms (IMO).
There was a study done back when they'd put electrodes in your brain, where you apply the electrodes to this part, the person smells something funny, put the electrodes somewhere else, they feel cold, etc, where they discovered that they could stimulate a part of the brain and make people laugh. Some psychologists did a study where they'd stimulate that 'laugh center' and then they'd ask the subject, "why did you laugh just now?".
Almost nobody said "Y'know, I really don't know, I just laughed, I guess", almost all subjects would say something like "well, they way that doctor's wearing his lab coat, he's so funny!" Hmm,odd. Wouldn't they kinda suspect that it may have something to do with these electrodes stuck up their brain?
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That's what distinguishes determinism from my definition of free will, namely: "not determinism".
Fixed that for you :)
It's a bad choice of identifier for this definition though, since the words are already in use.
That "you" would be able to predict someones actions in a deterministic universe is a really misleading intuition pump. As has been mentioned by another poster, that's wildly impossible for several physical reasons. Some abstruse godlike entity would be able to simulate our actions - that hardly makes them less free.
If your choice is governed by the mechanisms of a deterministic universe,
Not to pick on you personally (you're just describing things), but this loaded choice of words illustrates nicely what is the confusion in this debate (IMO).
"The laws of physics" aren't some bossy anthropomorphic entity "forcing" or "predetermining" choices for you. Physics is just a mode of looking at the world.
Your choices aren't "governed" by a deterministic universe. You are that universe (or part of it, anyway).
Lots of women prefer to party and sleep with many men when they are young
I'm intrigued by your idea and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
echo "$master$site" | md5sum | head -c20
(where master is your master password and site is the name or url of the site you're registering for.)
There's your unique password and you only have to remember the master. A bit simpler than OpenID, no?
(maybe this simplistic scheme has some vulnerability, but you get the point)
Beat me to it. IANAP, but I think that for extra mileage you could bang the oxygen together too (up to iron), but the engine will need some sturdy casing.
No offense, but as far as I can see you're refusing to take the badness of suffering as an axiom (let's not muddle this with the issue whether animals have consciousness. The idea here is conscious suffering, not the presence of receptors for physical pain); yet at the same time, your idea that anything with "ability to form hierarchical structures of abstract concepts" should have the right to "life, liberty and property" seems to be a simple assertion.
I'd rather take empathy and the prevention of suffering as an ethical primitive than that.
Similarly, you're deriding empathy as being an "evolved emotion", yet do you think that your striving for liberty and property has nothing to do with evolved emotions?
'LSD causes sociopathy and paranoid delusions in individuals who have never even taken it.'
Good post.
I'd like to add that one's baseline levels of various emotions are to some degree genetically determined, and that it wouldn't be entirely unreasonable to think that these levels might somehow affect the utility ascribed to by the individual to the use of a substance.
IMO decisions aren't made in a vacuum, as some of the more black-and-white views here seem to imply.
"A and B are both not perfect, thus they are equally good"? You know, one could hold that open human rights violations are a weighty enough reason not to do business, whereas relatively minor flaws in a system aren't.
I'm baffled by this suggestion every time... I guess it isn't intended for people whose falling-asleep-time has a standard deviation on the order of said 90min :)
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Btw, "it takes one to know one" does apply to smartassitude, so take this posting with a grain of salt please...
(man pam_faildelay if you want to know how to set this). Why does this default to several seconds anyway? At a less annoying 100ms delay, it's still 345946 years to find a (uniformly picked) 8-letter, 62 chars password.
At the very least, parts of it (like groups) are used in many other branches of math.
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Just fooling around, please don't take this seriously
My guess (without any evidence whatsoever) was that maybe he used it to make quick graphical frontends for his algorithms.
I think lolcats might have reached escape velocity from being just a novelty/meme. They have a lot of extensibility, and cuteness is timeless too.
RTFA (on the ethics bill) :)
I know you're joking, but just for completeness, the actual effects are of a rather different nature.
Don't you still need cat for sticking files together?
IANAPharm, but I think you're worrying too much. You can't just add the amounts up over time. Your body has homeostatic mechanisms and I doubt ultra-low doses like that would make any "dent" in them. Just my wild uneducated guess.
WTF are you talking about? Many countries have sub-replacement fertility rates, and in many of these this happens voluntarily, not due to either ressource scarcity or due to laws. 'nuff said (since the rest of your tirade depends on that point).
Quite the contrary, in some countries we encourage having children, in order to avoid future demographic problems.
You are harping on about principles and formalities that are non-issues except in theory, while in practice germany is a rather reasonable country regarding freedom of religion and other individual freedoms (IMO).
Almost nobody said "Y'know, I really don't know, I just laughed, I guess", almost all subjects would say something like "well, they way that doctor's wearing his lab coat, he's so funny!" Hmm,odd. Wouldn't they kinda suspect that it may have something to do with these electrodes stuck up their brain?