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Major Linux Hardware Donor Is a CNN "Hero"

christian.einfeldt writes "James Burgett of the Alameda County Computer Resource Center calls himself a 'tattooed freak' and a recovering drug addict, but CNN is calling him a hero (video) for diverting tons of computers from landfills, installing Ubuntu Linux on them, and giving them out to schools, non-profits, and poor people. Burgett's filmed interview is currently leading a CNN contest among videos of 'ordinary people' whom CNN considers everyday heroes, narrowly edging out the video of a man who is saving gorillas from extinction. In his interview, Burgett points out that the people working for him are also recovering drug addicts or recovering mental illness patients." Update: 10/02 23:46 GMT by KD : Reader stefanlasiewski posted a journal article describing how, bewilderingly, the state of California is threatening to shut down Burgett's ACCRC.

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  1. Anyone that distributes Linux to the masses by CaptainPatent · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is a hero in all of our books!

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    1. Re:Anyone that distributes Linux to the masses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      This is just an ideological issue, and as such, it is completly irrelevant and, may I add, fanatical. It's like saying: everyone who helps spreading GOD'S word, the Holy Bible, is a heroe. Well, (s)he may be a hero for some, for others, he may be a zero, and for some others an idiot. Nothing against Linuzzz, but there is nothing HEROICAL in distributing it, it's just a work of charity because the guy is actually working for the community distributing computers (independently of which sequency of bites there are worning on it).

    2. Re:Anyone that distributes Linux to the masses by jmashaw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is a hero in all of our books!
      Well, I believe that your sentiment is having an apparent effect on the voting:
      /.ed!

      Ironic, he did not want to win, but now thanks to us, he will probably win in a landslide.
    3. Re:Anyone that distributes Linux to the masses by Yetihehe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are people needed on every front. On fighting mountaintop mining AND fight for reactors. With Noguchi, maybe nobody wants to pick up trash? Would you pick up trash? Rutugarama does what he can. There are other people which care for other biodiversity pieces. One man can't do anything for everyone, he must care of what he can.

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    4. Re:Anyone that distributes Linux to the masses by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it's just a work of charity
      Someday, I hope you come to understand that this is not such a little thing. There is damn little charity in this world, compared to the need.
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  2. Weird by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A guy actually doing something useful is beating out another guy doing something equally noble but less practical? Checks outside Nope, clear skies, no cats or dogs...

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    1. Re:Weird by Otter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How do you figure protecting half the world's mountain gorillas, at constant risk of being killed himself, isn't "useful"? With all due respect to Ubuntu, that strikes me as at least as important as supervising a bunch of Linux installs.

    2. Re:Weird by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You need to start taking yourself a little less seriously.

    3. Re:Weird by Nyeerrmm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the real utility of it isn't just that he's install Ubuntu, but the fact that he's doing the gruntwork to collect old computers, put them in a usable state, and redistributing them to those in need. Evangelizing for linux isn't necessarily the point.

    4. Re:Weird by sauge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ah.

      If life is not useful to you, it may be destroyed.

      That is a text book definition of species-centristic.

      I'll tell that the marvel of life and nature was richer before his was born. Be happy with the gorilla stuffed animal toy.

    5. Re:Weird by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Lol.. if it wasn't for humans you would never know about the planet getting fucked.

      And don't think that animals don't screw things up. They just don't seem to be as efficient as humans are. But they will eat everything out of existence and then move on looking for more food. They have even done this to the point that some fish have developed ways to walk to the next pond supporting life. The examples are endless if you really look at it. Humans are doing nothing that isn't somewhat natural- Using the stuff around them to live.

    6. Re:Weird by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All of these are sucking electrons from the grid, and leading to additional power generation demand. Tonnes more CO2 spewing into the atmosphere. Yay!

      Better than leaking heavy metals in a landfill, if you ask me.

      Besides if those knee-jerk, tunnel-visioned religious zealots, I'm sorry, environmentalists, would get behind nuclear power, there wouldn't be a frickin' carbon dioxide problem from more computers. But of course, that would mean not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, which violates their core principles.

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  3. Good for him. Good for the schools. Good for Linux by Chas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Getting off drugs, both him and his assistants. VERY Cool.

    Helping out schools. Cool

    Helping the environment. Cool (though some in the "movement" would gripe about the electricity consumed).

    Linux. Uber cool!

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  4. Terminology by trifish · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The term "Linux hardware" is as non-sensical as "Windows hardware" (something I've never heard or seen either). Hardware has nothing to do with an operating system.

  5. Re:Hero to the public, Villain to the industry... by Derek+Loev · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I just thought about it.
    My conclusion? Not many.
    "He repairs discarded computers and gives them to people who otherwise could not afford one."
    Seems like that means that he's really not diverting that many sales because the people that are taking these computers wouldn't have got one anyway. I'm not saying what he's doing isn't great, but I doubt it's a thorn in Microsoft's foot.

  6. Good for him by avm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good for him, on a number of levels.

    First, on a personal level, for taking control of his life back.
    Second, on an environmental level, for saving unnecessary rubbish from a landfill somewhere.
    Third, on a charitable level, for donating the results of his work.
    Fourth, on an economic level, for using free software and cast-off hardware to do something useful.
    Fifth, on a geek level, for using Linux to do it.

    My hat's off to you, sir.

  7. But by joeflies · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Bad for the Gorillas

    1. Re:But by hazem · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not like his installing linux on old computers is keeping the other guy from saving gorillas; or that every computer installed leads to a gorilla not being saved. Rather it's merely that the video of the guy installing linux is slightly more popular than the video of the guy saving gorillas.

      And it's not like he's hurting the knowledge about the gorilla program because I hadn't hear of either until today. If it weren't a guy installing linux (but instead a woman making sandwiches for hungry orphans) then it would have never made it on slashdot.

      So, we can call it a win for both.

    2. Re:But by MollyB · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >So, we can call it a win for both.

      I see it that way, too. But the (American, at least) culture is focused on Winners and Losers to the extent that such rich meditations as yours are easy to miss. Slashdot clearly (witness the comment list) reflects this attitude, but it is nice to see more light and less heat on occasion. Thanks.

    3. Re:But by grammar+fascist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I see it that way, too. But the (American, at least) culture is focused on Winners and Losers to the extent that such rich meditations as yours are easy to miss.

      Definitely just Americans. Or something. What was that all about?

      Anyway, here's the real issue: humans have a natural bias to assume a zero-sum game first, even where none exists. It's the source of all envy. Maybe it was a good survival trait back in the poor, nasty, brutish, and short days when competition over resources was fierce, but it's clearly maladaptive now.
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    4. Re:But by argiedot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sorry dude. This distro is "for human beings"

  8. Using old computers is not very green. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    Think of all the power those re-purposed computers will now consume... before they are inevitably toss out anyhow.

    I say skip the energy waste and toss them out now!

  9. Re:Good for him. Good for the schools. Good for Li by rpillala · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If this man is the one I'm thinking of, he's saving a lot of computers from landfills. Even those of us in the movement have heard what an ecological disaster that can be. "Reuse" is often the best thing you can do with a used item, even better than recycling.

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  10. Re:Hero to the public, Villain to the industry... by Bloater · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If they do then how long until a MacDonalds complains that they spent all that money on making the air outside their store smell *really* good only for someone to "steal some of the smell without coming in for a burger as they passed". The TV broadcasters tried it "Tivo should be illegal to use because we spent all that money on programs only for people to choose not to watch the advertisements".

  11. Re:Hero to the public, Villain to the industry... by roc97007 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A more apt parallel might be with attempts to shut down used CD stores.

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  12. Re:Isn't he at risk of violating non-profit status by schon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    hang on to this stuff because you think it's cool and somebody may want it someday. I thought that it is a violation for a charity to allow its workers to claim any donation for their own personal use? Care to show me where it says that 'somebody" means "volunteer worker", because I don't see it.

    It's pretty clear to me that he's talking about a museum (or some other organization) finding it useful for display.
  13. Re:Wait a second... by fractoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wouldn't the "carbon footprint" be smaller if you just trashed them now? If you're looking purely at carbon emissions, maybe, but an old computer uses about as much electricity as two to three incandescent light bulbs. Not very much carbon to be had there. Nothing like the modern 350-500W power supplies and video cards that need their own power plug. Any time one of these recycled PCs fills a role that would otherwise be taken by a new PC, we save masses of energy from manufacturing as well as a small amount due to lower power consumption.

    On an economic level, we now have a substantial number of people who can learn about PCs, and possibly even gain employment with them, who couldn't before. That is 100% win.
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  14. Microsoft spin on it by dave562 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can imagine the headlines coming out of Redmond already... Anyone who uses Linux is obviously a mentally ill drug addict.

  15. I wish that... by webvictim · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...I'd come up with the idea myself. I must have thrown out so many computers in my time that could have been converted to the Linux cause with just a tiny bit of work. I applaud this guy, not only for spreading Linux to as many people as possible but also for kicking the drugs. Way to go.

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  16. The state is not that harsch (update) by cheros · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you read his blog you'll find an entry that identifies the State is working with him to come to a sensible conclusion so it appears that sanity has prevailed in this situation (probably generously assisted by the bad press the situation had created, but that's only an assumption).

    So it's not as grim as it appears.

    I also think his stance on the CNN vote is admirable - he has a very good point.

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