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Super Smash Bros. Brawl Delayed

Dr. Eggman writes "As feared when it was announced that the Japanese launch was being pushed back to January 24, Nintendo has announced that Super Smash Bros. Brawl has been delayed in North America as well. 1up.com cites the new launch date as February 10th. On the bright side, however, 16-bit era fan's prayers have been answered: Sonic the Hedgehog is officially in the game."

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  1. 16-bit era fan's prayers... by Tetsujin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apparently there's just one fan of the 16-bit era??

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    1. Re:16-bit era fan's prayers... by Tetsujin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, my son was very happy that Sonic is now included. He's a big fan of Sonic. I guess we found out who the 16-bit era fan is, then...
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    2. Re:16-bit era fan's prayers... by EggyToast · · Score: 2, Funny

      Me too. They've got good burgers.

  2. It's upsetting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But I'd really rather prefer a late game to a bugged game.

    1. Re:It's upsetting by moderatorrater · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's amazing how many people bitch and moan about delaying a game that they're expecting without giving any consideration as to why that game is going to be delayed While there's usually a good reason (in the case of Smash Bros. it's going to be really, really good to miss the holiday season), it's always disappointing that the developer wasn't able to more accurately estimate the amount of time the game would require. Yes, i would rather wait longer than I expected for a good game; at the same time, I would have rather had them wait another month before giving a release date and have that release date be accurate.
    2. Re:It's upsetting by shoptroll · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Name me a software product that has ever shipped on time. By on time I mean the original planned release date.

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    3. Re:It's upsetting by trdrstv · · Score: 2, Funny

      Name me a software product that has ever shipped on time. By on time I mean the original planned release date.

      Duke Nukem Forever. Release date: "When it's done."

  3. Good news by Sciros · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That should give me plenty of time to finish Mass Effect and Revenant Wings before beginning a Wii hunt to play Smash.

    Can't care less about Sonic, though. Just hope he's not a broken character, since in Smash speed is paramount (hence space animals and Sheik being top tier).

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    1. Re:Good news by revlayle · · Score: 2, Informative

      Check out the video below the character info on that page link to smash bros. site, it show's sonic's moves pretty well, and decently utilized

    2. Re:Good news by edwdig · · Score: 2, Informative

      The supposed character tiers in Smash Bros are a pretty stupid idea. They come from tournament play where matches are limited to 1 vs 1 and the rules are set to eliminate as much randomness as possible. Items get turned off and a large chunk of the stages aren't allowed.

      It's basically trying to turn Smash Bros into Street Fighter and isn't at all representative of how the game is normally played.

    3. Re:Good news by Hitto · · Score: 3, Funny

      No items
      Fox only
      Final Destination

    4. Re:Good news by Workaphobia · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A fun game. It's not based on raw skill and straightforward proper-sequence button mashing. There's some strategy, prediction, knowing your opponent, and moments when all that goes to hell because the other guy got a star, heart, and hammer at the same time. Tournament players don't know what smash is because they're too busy studying how to break it rather than have fun.

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    5. Re:Good news by carou · · Score: 3, Funny

      No items
      Fox only
      Lame.
    6. Re:Good news by Altus · · Score: 2, Interesting


      Arguably, it is in its own genre.

      Much like Mario Kart isn't really a racing game SSB is not really a fighting game. MK is a Kart game (and there are plenty of others) and SSB is a... lets call it a Brawler. The only difference I can see is that, to the best of my knowledge, there aren't any other games like SSB.

      SSB is a fighting game in the same sense that Mario Strikers is a soccer game.

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    7. Re:Good news by Workaphobia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > "They've played the HECK out of Smash using its usual setups, and have simply discovered ways to play the game competitively that your casual players wouldn't have even thought of."
      True, but they also play the game competitively in ways that are obvious, yet I simply wouldn't do. Mostly this pertains to choice of characters.

      > "They are the most dedicated, die-hard Smash Bros fans you'll ever meet."
      For certain definitions of what Smash Bros is, yes. For the way I play, and what Smash Bros really means to me, they are the worst group of players.

      > "I can promise you that most of the folks in the Smash tournament scene would be very offended at what you wrote "
      Of that I have no delusions.

      > "because it's so unbelievably inaccurate. The game *can* be based on raw skill under certain setups; "
      That's not the point I was making. When I say it's *not* based on that, I mean that any situation under which chance (in the form of items) and asymmetry is not a factor, is not a proper instance of a Smash Bros game. I know you can take the Smash Bros title and play on final destination with sword characters and fox, and get a fairly even game out of that; but that is not Smash Bros.

      > "that's how strong Smash's customizeability is!"
      Agreed. I just wish there were more tournaments that required you play pichu or ness on the Ice Climber's level, so we could actually see some professional usage of that customizability, rather than finding the absolute minimum variance in options and playing the hell out of it.

      > "And yes, competition in a level playing field can be load of fun (Starcraft/Halo anyone?),
      I refuse to acknowledge Halo's existence. As for Starcraft, suppose that the races weren't as perfectly balanced as they are: would you condone the removal of all but one race, just to ensure balance via symmetry? Would you get rid of all maps that didn't have exactly the same resources, positioned in a manner that worked with the game engine to make sure that worker units had exactly the same opportunity to harvest them at a particular rate? At what point do you stop and say, "This isn't the game I bought, this isn't why I play it"?

      > "especially after you've had the game since 2001."
      Check.

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  4. Missing the Holidays by SlashdotOgre · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't believe they're allowing that game to slip past the holiday season. I'm sure the Wii will still sell out, but that's a major title that a lot of people were expecting. I wonder whether this was caused by development issues or to boost their sales numbers in the retail slump between Christmas & Easter. On a side note the article lists a 2/10 US release date (only mentioning it since it's not in the summary).

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    1. Re:Missing the Holidays by Javi0084 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nintendo has Mario Galaxy for Christmas, that will probably sell out too.

  5. Why "The Pokemon Trainer" by kisrael · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why is it "The Pokemon Trainer" and not "Ash"?

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    1. Re:Why "The Pokemon Trainer" by shoptroll · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ash was the name for the character in the anime. The default name for the character in the game is whatever color Pokemon cartridge you have.

      I don't know about you but choosing "Red" as my character sure sounds like a winner ;)

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    2. Re:Why "The Pokemon Trainer" by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 2, Informative

      Because that's the Male character from Pokemon Fire Red and Satoshi/Ash does not look like that? Pokemon If anything that is "Fire red" as the Pokemon naming system goes from the comics.

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  6. Sonic - not a rumor this time! by PlatyPaul · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In case you missed out on the press, Sonic was rumored for inclusion in Super Smash Bros. Melee (released for the Gamecube back in 2001-2002). Here is a quick rundown, with requisite pretty pictures.

    Actually, the intriguing bit is whether or not it will be possible to have Sonic go Supersonic, a common theme in most Sonic games. To start the rumor mill going: the official Sonic-in-Smash-Bros. trailer ends with a quick glimpse at him in Supersonic mode....

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    1. Re:Sonic - not a rumor this time! by the+dark+hero · · Score: 3, Informative

      Rumor mill? Psh. I'll bet my wii that its gonna be a final smash.

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  7. Success? by Fex303 · · Score: 4, Funny
    From the article:

    The delay "in no way affects the success of the Wii," said George Harrison, Nintendo's Senior VP of Marketing and Corporate Communication.
    It doesn't affect the success of the Wii as a paperweight, no. But I was actually hoping to play some fucking games on mine.

    Also, I can't help but notice that the old release date announcement has been quietly taken off the official Smash Bros site.

    1. Re:Success? by pokerdad · · Score: 4, Funny

      Also, I can't help but notice that the old release date announcement has been quietly taken off the official Smash Bros site.

      Yeah I hate it when inaccurate information is taken off of websites to prevent confusion.

  8. Re:It's not upsetting by trdrstv · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But I'd really rather prefer a late game to a bugged game.

    Not only that, but I wouldn't mind if they spaced out their "tent pole" games through out the year, and not just the 3-4 months at the end. I realize Quarter 4 is when they do most of their business, but games like Smash Bros, Mario, Zelda, Halo, Final Fantasy, MGS... don't need to come out for Christmas to sell. They will sell in the millions no matter when they release, so why not spread them out a little more?

  9. Re:Whooosh! by Wildfire+Darkstar · · Score: 3, Informative

    More correctly:

    Joke
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  10. Re:Why are they happy NOW? by Kankraka · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually most of those characters started in the 8bit era of gaming. So was Sonic actually, with the first Sonic the Hedgehog game being on the Master System and Game Gear.