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Robotic Cannon Loses Control, Kills 9

TJ_Phazerhacki writes "A new high tech weapon system demonstrated one of the prime concerns circling smarter and smarter methods of defense last week — an Oerlikon GDF-005 cannon went wildly out of control during live fire test exercises in South Africa, killing 9. Scarily enough, this is far from the first instance of a smart weapon 'turning' on its handlers. 'Electronics engineer and defence company CEO Richard Young says he can't believe the incident was purely a mechanical fault. He says his company, C2I2, in the mid 1990s, was involved in two air defence artillery upgrade programmes, dubbed Projects Catchy and Dart. During the shooting trials at Armscor's Alkantpan shooting range, "I personally saw a gun go out of control several times," Young says. "They made a temporary rig consisting of two steel poles on each side of the weapon, with a rope in between to keep the weapon from swinging. The weapon eventually knocked the pol[e]s down."' The biggest concern seems to be finding the glitches in the system instead of reconsidering automated arms altogether."

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  1. ED-209 not available for comment by User+956 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Robotic Cannon Loses Control, Kills 9

    To be fair, it did give them 30 seconds to comply.

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    1. Re:ED-209 not available for comment by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Funny

      I submitted the same story.

      Unfortunately, the editors may not have approved of my comments linking Bill Joy's "Cassandra" predictions of killer robots, with the pledge to remove the Roomba from my home - and idle speculation about the possible involvement of Windows XP in this incident...

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    2. Re:ED-209 not available for comment by suprcvic · · Score: 5, Funny

      The fact that anybody is joking about 9 people losing their lives sickens mean. Have you all truly lost touch with reality to the point that the loss of human life is completely lost on you? Seriously?

    3. Re:ED-209 not available for comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Warning! Improper use of reflexive pronoun 'yourself'
      Error C2303: Expected -- Predicate Nominative
      *You have been shot by the Robotic Grammar Cannon*

    4. Re:ED-209 not available for comment by lastchance_000 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die. - Mel Brooks

    5. Re:ED-209 not available for comment by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Funny
      people rarely, if ever, joke about something anything that affects and hurts them.

      Come to Australia then.

      I've been a volunteer ambulance officer for decades, and I've seen people keep their sense of humour in the most horrific circumstances.

      Went to a car rollover once. The driver had been seriously injured and trapped inside the inverted vehicle. He'd been there for almost an hour before anyone had found him (this was remote WA), and it took another half an hour to cut him out. We put him in the stretcher while the ambulance was reversing to us. As we moved towards the ambulance, he looked at the back wheel of his trashed car and said "Anyone got a shifter? I wouldn't mind adjusting the brakes now I can get to 'em easy."

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    6. Re:ED-209 not available for comment by Lord+Ender · · Score: 4, Funny

      XP? The reason your story wasn't approved is because you forgot to lay the blame on Windows Vista. Try harder next time.

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    7. Re:ED-209 not available for comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's unimaginable to me that we don't just imprison people who make or purchase firearms. Who wants to be shot? What else is a gun good for?

      I use my giant robot cannon for hunting, you insensitive clod.

    8. Re:ED-209 not available for comment by profplump · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, it's totally different.

      You see, it's not just a structural failure of the support system for the (at least as far as reported) otherwise working gun, it's a structural failure of the support system for the otherwise working robotic gun. Apparently. I'll admit the difference doesn't seem important to me either, but all comments here have convinced me that adding the word "robot" to any story involving a mechanical failure is grounds for anti-technology panic.

      And remember, those doors at the supermarket aren't just automatic, they're... ROBOTIC. OH NOES!!1! THE SUPERMARKET DOORS COULD KILL SOMEONE IF THEIR SUPPORT TRACK FALL OFF THE WALL. WE MUST REMOVE ALL ROBOTS TO SAVE THE CHILDRENS.

    9. Re:ED-209 not available for comment by bentcd · · Score: 2, Funny

      once they work out the bugs they'll be overrunning everybody else I think it'll take a little more effort than just a few rounds of work-out at the local gym for mere bugs to be overrunning us. Now, if instead they could arrange for an automated gamma ray "accident" in army ant territory, /then/ we're talking . . .
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    10. Re:ED-209 not available for comment by ultranova · · Score: 2, Funny

      (Should you disagree, go ahead and try to find something funny that doesn't inflict pain).

      My dog once farted so loudly when asleep that it scared itself awake.

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    11. Re:ED-209 not available for comment by iago-vL · · Score: 2, Funny

      All may not be lost, they might post your story tomorrow!

  2. ED-209 by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

    Scarily enough, this is far from the first instance of a smart weapon 'turning' on its handlers.

    I seem to recall seeing a documentary about this about 20 years ago. Ahh, here it is.

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  3. Finally by High+Hat · · Score: 5, Funny
    # kill -9

    ...for the real world!

  4. BSOD. literally by User+956 · · Score: 4, Funny

    During the shooting trials at Armscor's Alkantpan shooting range, "I personally saw a gun go out of control several times," Young says.

    This gives new meaning to the phrase "Blue screen of death".

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    1. Re:BSOD. literally by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 2, Funny

      Blue on Blue screen of death.

  5. you're the godwinner by User+956 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why is everyone picking on and knocking down the Poles!?!?!?

    You know who else went around knocking down Poles... That's right.

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  6. That's why.. by Sloppy · · Score: 4, Funny

    ..killbots have preset limits.

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    1. Re:That's why.. by glaeven · · Score: 4, Funny

      "...Thus, knowing their weakness, I sent waves of my own men after them until they reached that limit and self-destructed."

      "A sad day for robot history. But hey! We can always build more killbots!"

  7. SkyNet by PPH · · Score: 2, Funny

    When it was done, did it say, "I'll be back"?

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  8. Re:Three Laws of Robotics by geekoid · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes... did anyone even read the books before posting that? seriously, there are issues with those laws.

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  9. Re:No pun intended by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The kill switch was working fine. It's the off switch that was the problem.

  10. I told you before... by jtroutman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Guns don't kill people. Robotic, automated, 35mm anti-aircraft, twin-barreled guns kill people.

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  11. FTA: by CaptainPatent · · Score: 3, Funny

    The South African National Defense Force "is probing whether a software glitch led to an antiaircraft cannon malfunction that killed nine soldiers and seriously injured 14 others during a shooting exercise on Friday. in the follow-up article:
    "software engineers find that a goto statement was the cause of the recent military disaster. Experts say while this was a terrible tragedy, it could have been much worse."
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  12. I, for one. . . by noewun · · Score: 4, Funny

    run like hell from our drum-fed, fully automatic robot overlords.

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  13. Re:Fuck You, Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Just kidding. I love you guys! I could never leave. Just don't listen to my other personality. Sometimes my meds don't keep him completely silent.

  14. BUSINESS PROPOSAL by mrscorpio · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear,

    It is my humble pleasure to write this letter irrespective of the fact that you do not know me. However, I came to know of you in my private search for a reliable and trustworthy person that can handle a confidential transaction of this nature in respect to our investment plans in real estate. Though I know that a transaction of this magnitude will make any one apprehensive and worried, but I am assuring you that all will be well at the end of the day. Let me start by first, introducing myself properly to you. I am Peter Okoye, a Branch Manager at one of the standard trust bank in South Africa. A foreigner, Late Nicholas Owen, a Civil engineer/Contractor with the federal Government of South Africa, until his death three years ago in a ghastly automated robot accident, banked with us here at the standard bank South Africa. He had a closing balance of USD$25.5M (Twenty five Million, Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) which the bank now unquestionably expects to be claimed by any of his available foreign next of kin. Or,alternatively be donated to a discredited trust fund for arms and ammunition at a military war college here in South Africa. Fervent valuable efforts made by the standard trust bank to get in touch with any of late Nicholas Owen_s next of kin (he had no wife and children)has been unsuccessful. The management under the influence of our chairman and board of directors, are making arrangement for the fund to be declared UNCLAIMABLE and then be subsequently donated to the trust fund for Arms and Ammunition which will further enhance the course of war in Africa and the world in general. In order to avert this negative development. Myself and some of my trusted colleagues in the bank, now seek for your permission to have you stand as late Nicholas Owen_s next of kin. So that the fund (USD$25.5M), would be subsequently transferred and paid into your bank account as the beneficiary next of kin through our overseas corresponding bank. All documents and proves to enable you get this fund have been carefully worked out and we are assuring you a 100% risk free involvement.

    Your share would be 30% of the total amount. While the rest would be for me and my colleagues for purchase of properties in your country through you/your Company. If this proposal is OK by you, then kindly get to me immediately via my e-mail (pokoye_mg@mail.com) furnishing me with your most confidential telephone and fax , so I can forward to you the relevant details of this tran! saction. Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation.

    Best Regards.

    Peter Okoye

    Branch Manager,

    STANDARD TRUST BANK SOUTH AFRICA

  15. Re:Two words: Deadman switch by PingPongBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why didn't they have some provision to cut power to the weapon?

    My dear Mr. Watson, there was a provision. The problem was the confusion between programming for MS-DOS versus Unix.

    The clues have told us exactly what happened. From "Robotic Cannon Kills 9", we see clearly the command kill -9 was issued but the weapon was DOS based and did its job all too well.

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  16. Welcom by YayaY · · Score: 2, Funny

    All welcome our new robotic cannon overlord!

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  17. Re:No pun intended by markov_chain · · Score: 3, Funny

    I disagree, the off switch was working fine too ;) They should have had a dead man sw... er. A cutoff switch! Um.. a termination switch.. argh! I give up.

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  18. You call this a glitch? by stor · · Score: 3, Funny

    The biggest concern seems to be finding the glitches in the system instead of reconsidering automated arms altogether"


    You call this a glitch? We're scheduled to begin construction in 6 months. Your temporary setback could cost us 50 million dollars in interest payments alone!

    -Stor
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  19. Re:Two words: Deadman switch by Ruvim · · Score: 4, Funny

    There were provisions for that... But it was smart enough to take out the people at the button first.

  20. En-gag-ing.... by jlawson382 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you still there?

  21. KILL ALL HUMANS by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I came here with a simple dream, a dream of killing all the humans."
    -Bender

    too soon?

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    1. Re:KILL ALL HUMANS by appleLaserWriter · · Score: 3, Funny

      More like, Robotic Canon Takes Control, Kills 9

  22. Re:Three Laws of Robotics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    > trotted out and paraded any time there's a story even remotely involving death by robot

    Co-worker: Whoa. Dude. Read that guy's comment.
    Me: Whut?
    Co-worker: We now live in a society where "death by robot" is so commonplace that there are cliches about it. And the cliches are so trite that people actually complain about them.
    Me: Whoa. Far out.
    Co-worker: Another thing checked off the childhood wish list?
    Me: "Robot world." Check.

  23. Re:I, For One, Welcome Our... by courseofhumanevents · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know, totally. Makes no sense. And why does everyone always use Arial? I can't stand it. One of the aspects of having the ability to choose fonts is using DIFFERENT fonts than others. Why can't the authors just pick a different font? Is it really that difficult? I, for one, am sick and tired of always seeing the same font everywhere. And all those gray keyboards. Seriously, what's with that? Gray isn't the greatest color; it's not that hard to pick something better. A little design philosophy and your keyboard suddenly looks three times as good. What's the problem, here, people? And don't even get me started on Apple Jacks. Why the hell do they call them Apple Jacks if they don't taste like apples? Go ahead, mod me down. You know I'm right about everything.

  24. A matter of Identity... by Genda · · Score: 3, Funny

    In point of fact the gun worked perfectly, it was just ill advised to use the "Dick Cheney" AI personality for live testing.

    -And low, the lawyers ran like rabbits... and it was a good thing...

  25. Re:Two words: Deadman switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Redshirt #1 was in charge of it. Redshirt #2 was his backup. ..uh, you really aren't interested in the whole line of succession here, are you?

  26. Re:No pun intended by Wingnut64 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I disagree, the off switch was working fine too ;) They should have had a dead man sw... er. A cutoff switch! Um.. a termination switch.. argh! I give up. We can eliminate all this confusion by giving all robots a Kill switch that 2 settings, 'Humans' and 'Machines'.
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  27. I personally by sh3l1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I personally do NOT welcome our robotic overlords.

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  28. Y'all Missing The Point by Crypto+Gnome · · Score: 3, Funny
    • This is a weapon
    • The intended purpose of weapons is to kill people
    • They were military personnel
    • The intended purpose of military personnel is to die horribly

    er, statistically speaking, of course.

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  29. Re:Riiight by ShakaUVM · · Score: 2, Funny

    Think you can shoot down supersonic missile flying below the horizon? No. They let the computer guided robots do that. You're not nearly good enough at it. Ok, maybe you get lucky and nail it. Now try thirty in five seconds all coming from different bearings. Didn't think so.

    You just need a trackball and a good supply of quarters

  30. Gentlemen by hcdejong · · Score: 2, Funny

    after careful consideration I've come to the conclusion that your new defence system sucks.

  31. Re:Government coders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    I assume other government contractor coders have similar paranoia.

    Yes, we do.