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ICANN Investigates Insider Domain Name Snatching
Tech.Luver sends us word that, hot on the heels of reports that Verisign may be planning to sell DNS root server lookup data, ICANN has opened an investigation into a suspected practice by registrars it calls "domain name front running." The suspicion is that insiders at some registrars are using information from whois searches to snatch up desirable domain names before interested customers can register them. Here is ICANN's announcement of the investigation (PDF). ICANN asks that anyone who suspects they have been victimized by domain name front running to email them with details.
I have proof of this happening and I'm sure others do too. We have two different customers that looked up domains to see if they were available, asked us to register them and before we could register them, they were already registered by places in China and the Carribian. Both domains where somewhat obscure and I didn't see any reason why they should have normally been bought. In both cases, the domain was released after the 5 day period that ICANN allows (which I think was a mistake on ICANN's part to have that policy). But in some cases it might not be released if it turns out to be popular. As I said about the Verisign thing, this is an invasion of privacy.
One of our customers (who allowed me to mention in this post that his domain in question was psysci.net) that had this happen said that he only used the command line whois and networksolutions.com to lookup the domain, so it might not just be small registrars involved in this scam. But that's a pretty serious accusation to bring against Network Solutions so take that with a grain of salt. THe company that tasted psysci.net had a name of Wan-Fu China, Ltd. The company that tasted the other domain had a name of (MAISON TROPICALE S.A.), which you can find a little more information about here
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say
When a domain is snatched, usually it doesn't matter if the original owner gets it back or not. That's not the point, in most cases. Thieves will use the domain to drive traffic to their astroturfing/spam network and drive their PR up in the process. That stays in memory indefinitely and has a beneficial impact on any site like that.
If the owner gets their network back, they still have the stigma of the bad activity associated with the domain.
Preventing domain theft is going to only get increasingly more difficult as technology becomes more complicated.
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
A year ago I searched on a domain I had spent 2 weeks thinking up. It was available but I waited 3 days. When I went to purchase, it was registered 1 or 2 days before. At the time I chalked it up to bad luck.
I only wish I could remember the domain name. I might have it in my notes but I have pages and pages of notes.
Camping on quad since 1996.
No match for "ICANNARETHIEVINGCUNTS.COM".
Let's see what happens.
Trolling is a art,
Say you want domain xyz.com and you have no idea whether anyone else owns xyz.com or if it's in use.
1. DO NOT go to xyz.com. If it is being squatted then the squatters now have a hit on it, they have one more reason to keep it if they're just testing out the ICANN 5 day snatch and release policy.
2. Go to a registrar site and do a search on xyz.com
3. If no one owns it, buy it NOW. The first hour after your search could very well be the only time it is ever available ever again. There is a very high probability of this. If you do not buy it right away, by the time you come back it will be gone. A squatter will have bought the site to abuse the ICANN 5 day policy. If it gets enough hits, they will keep it, if not, they will release it and by the act of releasing some other squatter will probably pick it up. This will keep on repeating itself until you pay enough money for some just as evil company to grab it and sell it to you.
There's your guide to buying a domain name in three obnoxious steps.
Reviewing just the first hour of video games.
I am so very glad that ICANN has quickly come forth at the first signs of such a horrible problem, to think that the registrars would abuse their positions like this.
I think we all can rest since ICANN is going to fix this before it even becomes a problem.
oh wait ...
I have been the victim of Internet-related Terminology Front Running (tm). It began innocently enough with "trolling" borrowed from fishing terminology. But when "phishing" itself became a term, as well as "blog", "AJAX", "spidering", etc., I realized I was in a strange world where tech writers invent terms for phenomena most people aren't even aware exists yet. Usually the phenomena is out there for awhile first, and as it gradually trickles into common knowledge, terminology gradually evolves. But here we have terminology existing even before awareness of the phenomenon. Which brings us to "front running"...
Oh, wait, we're talking about a different kind of front running? It means what again?
See what I mean ICANN? I can't even keep track anymore. I thought I was tech savvy, but if I blink, these crazy kids are using words I don't even understand.
Wait... ICANN is the wrong organization to complain to about this?
I give up.
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Why not just start a bot that makes random DNS queries? This would eventually make it unprofitable for the squatters to squat.
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than domain names. One time I register {my firstname}{my lastname}.com and let it lapse. I do not have a memorable or popular name at all. Yet sure enough, someone was squatting on it for a couple of years. I keep thinking something akin to AOL's keywords would have been better than domain names. Say instead of a domain, it's just a plain string. No top levels or any of that. "IBM Corporation", "/.", "Natalie Portman is hot". Maybe have a maximum size and forbid a few characters to prevent code execution and the like. Maybe a have a nominal fee so someone doesn't grab zillions of strings. But man, the restrictions and absurdity in place right now is nuts.
This isn't about snatching domain names from previous owners. It's about improper use of search records from the whois databases, using this information to automatically grab new, currently unregistered domains when other people check the domain names' registration status.
This is undoubtedly going on. People like us are doing it to screw with all squatters, and squatters are probably doing it to other squatters to get them to buy and keep crap domains. Doesn't seem to be helping much though.
Reviewing just the first hour of video games.
I don't think it'd work. It'd be very easy to load them into a table, filter them against dictionary words, and sort them by # of hits.
Human eyeballs could pull the top 1000, do a quick spot check on the list, remove garbage names, and register the rest. Once setup, it'd take about 10-15 minutes of human intervention a day.
Camping on quad since 1996.
I've *never* used whois for probing novel domain-names for this exact reason. I just use the URL and see if it hits. If it and it's adjacent ones on other tlds of interest don't hit and I want it, I order it.
Being a little paranoid allways helps.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
To greatly reduce any doubt that this is happening, people should determine the availability of extremely unlikely domain names, like a random string of 24 characters.
tksmowlapoxnvbwlqanmiutklweh.com
laskjdfghlfkajgneruykvjniour.com
qwieurylkajbaiurylkjasndfgpu.com
If several of those are snatched up after a whois lookup, it's clearly not because anyone else actually bought the domain name because they wanted to use it.
I once had a signature.
They were even loading images, like I do, from my ISP's webspace. For a while I had changed the image to a big "WARNING!", but they noticed that yesterday and removed all links and images from their copy. A DMCA takedown won't work since they're in the U.K. and from what I've read of the hosting service, ethics aren't exactly their strong suit. So I've got to just learn from experience here. Oy.
PHEM - party like it's 1997-2003!
One of the provisions of the ICANN Registrar Agreement is this:
So ICANN has the authority to insist that registrars get out of the domain speculation business. They don't have to ask the registrars; they can simply order it.
Currently, most of the "registrars" are fronts for domain speculators. Take a look at the list. There are whole families of phony registrars (Enom1, Inc., Enom2, Inc., Enom3, Inc., ... Enom371, Inc., ... Enom469, Inc.) There are ones who admit they're domain speculators (NameJumper.com, Inc., "!!BBB Bulk Inc"). There are ones that are fronts for "Club Drop".
Most of these "registrars" are so phony they don't even have a business address.
This registrar information is useful for filtering junk sites. If a site is registered with one of the bogus registrars, it's probably desirable to block its e-mail (which is probably spam), and throw it out of search engines.
I think cyber squatting is just as bad as this. You shouldn't get a domain unless you have a use for it. Not just by one hoping to sell at an inflated price later. There should be some sort of price cap on a domain name.
WTF?
As much as front-running is annoying (at the very least), I think registering typo'd domains is actually worse. Considering how many domains are registered simply for the purpose of catching people who misspell the domain they want to visit, it may be a larger problem.
And from my experiences, it seems like the typo squatters usually bombard you with pop-ups and other annoying crapola on their sites when you accidentally wander into them. The front-runners at least seem kind enough to just tell you "this domain could be yours for only $1M". Bastardly, sure, but less of an annoyance than 4 pop-ups that trigger more pop-ups on being closed.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
why not make a domain named www.ICANNOT.org and just make it a listing/cache of domain names already taken so users looking for a domain can see if a name is already taken...
Oops, too late, already taken...
Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
This very idea occurred to me about 5 years ago, and I immediately assumed that someone out there was doing it already. It's an idea that's too easy to abuse for it not to be happening.
You can directly lookup whois information at the internic's lookup page, or use the unix whois command or a Windows utility like Cyberkit to discover whether or not a domain has been registered without leaking your interest to someone who might try to grab it first.
I say we setup a dictionary based query that (slowly as to not DNS) .. generates a mountian of plausible but not needed DNS queries. The domain squatters would then spend $$$ grabbing what amounts to useless domains ..
Use the old scale of economy attack on them. It they have to sit on 10,000 useless names to hit one "real" one .. it becomes a LOT less profitable .. and they will move on.
Hey, we're rolling, hey..
Go home, go home
Squatter go home
Go home, go home
Squatter go home
I think I hear your Mommy callin'
On your cellular phone
She said your dad wants his car back
So you'd better come home
Squatter go home
Squatter go home
Squatter go home
Squatter go home
Go home, go home
Squatter go home
Go home, go home
Squatter go home
You got no money for the punk rock show
It's delagated for a beer and a ho
Spitting, pissing, cumming, and shitting
So you have cool clothes
Squatter go home
Squatter go home
Squatter go home
Squatter go home
I see you sitting on the boulevard with your tired and pissed off stare
Tellin' everyone your hard luck story, and what landed you here
You think of mommy and daddy out in their safe suburban home
And you know that's where you're gonna be when you start to feel the cold
I'm saying poser go home
Poser squatter go home
Summer squatter go home
Poser squatter go home
Squatter go home
Squatter go home
Squatter go home
Squatter go home
Squatter go home
Squatter go home
Summer squatter go home
mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
That would clean up this problem, right? Sure, it's an impact on other lines of business, but domain registries have a 'special role' to play in the internet. One question, though, is whether ICANN could legally enforce this rule in various jurisdictions. Probably so, since ICANN could revoke the registry for not playing by the rules, but IANAL...
dave
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(angling)
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
If you do a whois on a domain name, then somebody, somewhere gets to see that you might be interested in buying it. It was really only a matter of time before someone started doing this.
Je fume. Tu fumes. Nous fûmes!
Then how in the world could they have a webpage to allow you to register domains in the first place? They need at least one domain
No, that link you posted to a web comic we've all seen a hundred times is not "obligatory."
I think this already happens. When you do a whois, which is usually the first thing in registering a domain, a variety of authorities are queried. Now - I don't know which one - but one of them is naughty and camping starts. There have been 3 occassions where I have run whois through netsol where within 24 hours the domain went from avail to camped (by studiomobile - a net 'research' company.) I think it is more than a coincidence.
/\/\icro/\/\uncher
A registry would itself have to register with the root registry, which I guess is Network Solutions, right? Doesn't ICANN have to bless anyone who wants to be a registry?
The domain name for my-bogus-registry.com would have to be registered first -with someone else-, before you could set up www.my-bogus-registry.com. So the specific bootstrap problem you mention should not occur.
dave
Good point. So if you're a whitehat and have access to the list of domains, some poisoning could still be applied by simply looking up each domain a (large enough) number of random times.
The results could still be filtered by dictionary/eye but you at least devalue # of hits in their decision making process. Seems like a pretty important variable to take out of their equation.
Why have domain name service at all?
.af.mil,...) containing a nice orderly heirarchy (.mit.edu -> .ee.mit.edu -> .rle.ee.mit.edu -> myhost.rle.ee.mit.edu). The real world doesn't look like that at all, which is why most people these days couldn't even tell you why there are dots in the URL and what purpose they were supposed to serve.
That is, why do we have this superelaborate expensive annoying structure, the only purpose of which is to translate one string (the hostname) into another (the IP address)? Sure, a nice 32 bit number (0x4a7d1368) is easier for programs to work with than a variable-length alphanumeric string ("www.l.google.com").
But so what? The only legitimate purpose of technology is to make our lives easier, not to serve as a temple in which we practice the complicated correct forms of worship. My 2007 Odyssey is way more complicated under the hood than my 1968 Volkswagen was (and of course that means car designers and car mechanics have a much more complicated and demanding job these days), but the 2007 car is much easier for the user to drive and take care of than the 1968 car. That's as it should be. Technology should be designed and evolve so that the ease and convenience of the user is the first priority. How easy or cool it is to implement should be a distant secondary goal only. (But programmers should not complain, because the more complicated and difficult a scheme is to implement, the better-paid the job of implementer is.)
The alphanumeric string that human beings find easy to remember and use should be the "real" address of an Internet host, and it should be up to the robots and programs behind the scenes to cope with the complexity of correcting routing packets to the destination using only this string.
More fundamentally, the idea of making one giant and (literally) global hash in which each host is mapped to a unique ID tag is violently contradictory to the way people naturally think. We naturally think in terms of local variables and namespaces. It perfectly possible for a bookstore in Liverpool to have the same name as a bookstore in Atlanta, because human beings consider the bookstore name a local variable and use the context ("Am I in England or Georgia?") to figure out the correct global meaning. Internet hostnames should work in a similar way; it should be possible for the Liverpool and Atlanta bookstores to have the same name on the Internet, too, with some method of choosing context to resolve ambiguity. Yes, I realize the dotted aspects of hostnames was supposed to do something like that ("foo.bar.com" versus "foo.baz.com"), but it clearly didn't work out that way. Perhaps because it was designed by people for whom the world was broken up into a few very large organizations (.mit.edu,
I also know lots of schemes that rely on the present madness would be broken. Tant pis. Can't make an omelet without breaking eggs.
.. when you have stuff like this going on...
http://www.mentallyretired.com/2007/09/17/fraud-in-the-domain-name-market/
I wanted a domain name after it expires in half a year and they're ALREADY MAKING ME BID FOR IT. Keep in mind, this is the REGISTRAR, not the current domain owner.
"The need to build the internet comes from something inside us, something programmed... something we can't resist."
So I checked via godaddy.com, and it was available, but I didn't purchase it because my checking account was overdrawn. A while later(2 weeks to a month), I went to buy it, and it was taken. Whois said it was taken shortly after my availability check, by a company in Maine. It was cash-parked at Network Solutions.
Anyway, a few months later(the dates are vague, I didn't mark my calender) I checked it to see what the people from Maine were doing with the title of my life's work. It was still just cash-parked at Network Solutions. So I checked WHOIS again, to refresh my memory about the name of the company, and it was now owned by an individual in Maryland instead of a company in Maine, but here's the scariest part: the registration date had *magically* moved backwards to 2005!
I had personal reasons to remember very specifically that the location of the owner was in Maine. I didn't remember the company name, but I definitely remembered that the date of registration was just after I had checked it.
And it's still just cash-parked. When it first happened, because of "Maine" and some personal events, I suspected a certain person I knew from certain forums had taken it for basically spiteful reasons. But when the date was altered, I was mystified and paranoid. "Why would the CIA and time-traveling lizard-people from Sirius conspire to keep me from doing my little project under that name?" Now, I'm relieved to find a more plausible explanation. A scammer or scammers with access to official registration data. Makes sense, I also own several other domains, so I might pop up as a high-probability purchaser. But I never contacted the owner, and in the intervening time I've reworked things to release soon under another name that I've owned for years.
I did, however, pop off an email to ICANN detailing the events.
Let me reiterate what's been said by others on this thread: don't check a domain unless you're ready to purchase it immediately.
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Poisoning with dictionary domains would have more potential to mess with them...
Camping on quad since 1996.
GoDaddy's doing it for sure. Several domains that I have probed with their service that are currently not available anymore:
...
http://guruevi.com/
http://pcman.com/
my last name
Custom electronics and digital signage for your business: www.evcircuits.com
A good friend of mine had a very successful website with 300,000+ users that made him over $100,000/year. The domain had been registered using some free email account that he stopped using. Eventually the email address was reclaimed and made available again and some guy registered it and hijacked his domain. It took him over a year and a half plus thousands of dollars in legal fees to finally get his domain back. By that time the domain was worthless because all of his customers had gotten fed up with the service outage and left. About the only thing going for it now is a Google pagerank of 7. He's also looking for a job.
The moral of the story is to keep tabs on your email addresses.
Before doing anything, google xyz.com to see if it is active. Doing searches that ping the site, or that go through a registrar, or that alert anyone at all to interest in xyz.com can be a costly mistake. (I learned this lesson after seeing domains snatched after searches through reputable registrars.)
The fortune at the bottom of the page reads:
You will gain money by a speculation or lottery
Well, someone is, at least....
Good judgment comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgment.
Here you go... This program when run will create X number of random domains and then do DNS queries against them. Thus poisoning the hit database. Note: I'm sure any real programmer will look at this code and cringe...
.= $tld_domains[rand(4)];
.= $list[rand($count)];
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use Net::DNS::Packet;
use Net::DNS::RR;
my @silly_list = ('sex','linux','monkey','pants','lucky','duck','cow',
'chicken','clown','w2k3','fart','junk','monk','towel','hyper','viper',
'amp','station','depot','diaper','super','leet','wicked','help','soft',
'ware','micro','dyne');
my @tld_domains = ('.com','.edu','.org','.net');
my $domain;
my $num = $ARGV[0]; # Number of junk domains to create.
my $res = Net::DNS::Resolver->new;
for(;$num >= 0; $num--)
{
$domain = return_domain(@silly_list);
$domain
print "Checking: $domain\n";
lookup_domain($res,$domain);
}
sub return_domain
{
my (@list) = @_;
my $count = @list;
my $dom_length = int(rand($count)/4)+2;
my $domain_name;
for(;$dom_length > 0;$dom_length--)
{
$domain_name
}
# print "domain = $domain_name\n";
return 'www.' . $domain_name;
}
sub lookup_domain
{
my ($resolver,$domain_name) = @_;
my $packet = $resolver->send($domain_name);
my @answer = $packet->answer;
my $ans_count = @answer;
my $item;
if($ans_count > 0)
{
foreach $item (@answer)
{
print $item->name . " " . $item->address . "\n";
}
}else{
print "Not a valid site!\n";
}
}
Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
About six years ago, I wanted a domain that was listed as a "pending delete." The domain had expired 2 years previously and had passed any grace period. In order to get in on the "waiting list" I had to send the controlling registrar (dotregistrar) $60 for nonrefundable "shares" to become a "member." I was first on the waiting list for three years when they informed me that my shares were about to "expire," and since three years had elapsed and the domain was still a pending delete, I opted to spend my remaining $15 on another domain rather than lose it. I was convinced of the scam at that point and was not going to give them any more money. The day after I quit paying to be first on the waiting list, the domain was suddenly registered to a domain squatter. Still is, except now it's "for sale." I complained to ICANN about this, but I might as well have sent my congressman a letter complaining about gas prices. The real killer is that I wanted the domain for a nonprofit I was working with at the time.
NetworkSolutions has now changed their name! They're now known as http://205.178.187.13/ ! Watch for our new ad campaign during the Super Bowl.
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I now keep my ideas to myself until I'm sure I want to run with them. Though I fear these people may grab it even within the few minutes it will take me to search and register.
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
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I suspected this for years, when circa 2003 I ran whois query/dns searches on short and very meaningful domain in .com, just perfect to suit my needs, which was registered 1 week later! Guess wh was the registrar? Some squatter.
After that I just go and register domain in 1 transaction - using registration form as whois/dns lookup and then immediately check out.
From 2003 I registered 4 domains and this rule worked pretty well.
Also I have one story when one not so expensive registrar just snatched domain from legitimate user. This is scary stuff. All registration are electronic, which means you even don't have a paper about domain is yours.
I guess all we can do is to bring as much attention to these cases as possible.
- Arwen, I'm your father, Agent Smith.
- Well, you're just Smith, but my father is Aerosmith!
Why did you have to add monkey to that list? I have a legit domain with monkey in the name.
Please don't shame the monkey.
This is old news. I wrote about it last July for eWEEK.
It definitely happens but it's in small enough quantity that I think it's being done with targeted compromises of servers involved with domain lookups at hosting services and the like. Either that or someone is selling the lookup data.
Took them long enough to figure this one out. I've recall hearing that this has been going on for 10 years at least! And since you can snatch a domain name and hold it for a few days before returning it for a refund, it doesn't even cost these crooks money to pull off this scam!
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
So ICANN has the authority to insist that registrars get out of the domain speculation business. They don't have to ask the registrars; they can simply order it.
This is too easy for the registrars to get around. The unscrupulous registrars could develop their own secret network of shell companies, shills, and spammers to register hits from searches on the registrar's site and then split the profits when the registrar buys the domain back from their network of proxies to sell back to the customer. It would be difficult to prove that the proxies who are buying up the domains are directly connected to the registrar.
The problem is that these "registrars" as you say are not vetted properly by ICANN and so blatant violation of the rules goes on behind the scenes without their being any direct consequences for the "registrars". The whole system set up by ICANN was just begging to be taken advantage of, but then again it was probably set up by nice people who don't generally think like the con artists and shady businessmen do (the ones who believe that rules are made to be broken and only honest people pay taxes).
I fixed my glitch...
Replace the static @silly_list with this...
my @silly_list = get_dictionary('/usr/share/dict/linux.words');
Make sure to alter the line "my $dom_length = int(rand($count)/4)+2;" and make it "my $dom_length = 5"; or something suitable, otherwise you'll end up with domain names that are impossibly long.
The get_dictionary function looks like this:
sub get_dictionary
{
my ($dist_file) = @_;
open(FP,"< $dist_file") or die "Unable to open file $dist_file ($!)\n";
print "Reading in Dictonary...";
my @list = <FP>;
chomp(@list);
print "done!\n";
return @list;
}
Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
just start some automated mass-whois-lookup's and drown out the real ones in the garbage..
that would solve the problem
anime+manga together at last.. in real time.
It can be so frustrating to find that special name only to discover that someone already used it. To have it stolen right out from under you, however, is infuriating.
It's been a few years since I registered my domains. I seem to recall a similar paranoia about checking availability. Not just registrars, but search engines are capable of clever stuff.
If you search Google for a five letter word and it finds nothing, do you suppose they ignore that? I assume that they log it in a special file for review by a human. A unique 5 letter word (assuming it's pronounceable) is worth its weight in gold! (alas, 5 letter words don't weigh much)
So I tried various ways to avoid attracting attention to my precious creations. I honestly don't remember them now, so you are wasting your time reading this
1 Don't use a major search engine to look for your name. Maybe Scroogle.org would be safer (I doubt it- doesn't it just link to Google? Please offer alternatives).
2 Don't type the name into the browser toolbar.
3 Don't use a registrar to search until you are ready to buy right now.
4 Don't call your best friend and ask if the name sounds OK.
5 Disguise your name. If it is 'xyz', try xyz's or 'the xyz' or xy'z... Some of these might throw off any evildoers while giving you useful information.
Your suggestions?
...omphaloskepsis often...
These phony registrars pay ICANN fees. Lots of fees. BIG fees. $5000 a year if I recall correctly. Amazingly, ICANN does not see a conflict of interest between their desire to take fees, and their purported mission to control the behavior of registrars.
"I will trust Google to 'do no evil' until the founders no longer run it." Hello Alphabet.
This is the company who front-ran me:
http://srsplus.com/en-def-417bf0e62ada/en/srsplus/about_srsplus.shtml
I typed in a domain to search, next day it was registered.
Now its owned by someone in Oregon(lisalisalisa), and managed by a bogus
domain name called 'mws.net'
This is SCARY, apparently there is a 'domaintools.com' website with all kind of nifty 'were tracking your Domain interest' type of tools. If you want to find out how unscrupulus DNS or who is providers try seeking out 'BMUG.COM' I used to volunteer at 'bmug.org' and listened to the sheer number of problems they had with 'BMUG.COM' ( now, I think owned by tucows.com ).
" The domain name www.bmug.com is for sale Prices in the region of US$4625" ( this from Get On The Web Limited ) It gets better...much better "Get On The Web Limited registered for its own websites, portals and client projects a number of generic domain names (including this one) some years ago, "
Hmmm since BMUG.ORG is about 23 years old...it would have this statemake a COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE:
"Get On The Web Limited does not knowingly register and/or offer for sale domain names which are registered trade marks."
http://www.dnjournal.com/domainsales.htm 'By Ron Jackson'
"The AfternicDLS targets small and medium sized businesses, selling the majority of their domains in the four-figure range, but despite that tight focus every now and then they reel in a whale."
http://www.afternicdls.com/ The aftermarket trading in your domain names.
with bmug.net Bid: 700 Ask:972 No Reserve Bid Now!!!
We dont need no stenkin trademarks...
The domain name industry is where all those used car salesmen ended up.
" A quick Google search comes up with Starbucks in Burlingtons in Vermont, Ontario, North Carolina, Washington, and Massachusetts. Which one do I mean when I say "the Starbucks in Burlington?"
Well, I mean the Starbucks in Burlington, Massachusetts. But here's the thing: there are two Starbucks in Burlington, Massachusetts. (More if you count Starbucks served inside of other stores.) Which one do I mean? Well, for this example, I mean the one on Mall Road. "
The starbucks in Burlington Ontario is a drive thru. Woo hoo!
Um, there's more than one Starbucks in Burlington Ontario though. There's at elast 3 I can think of and I haven't lived there in 25 years.
God it was Boring.
Need Mercedes parts ?
Get rid of speculators? Hahahahaha. Who do think participates in ICANN meetings?
You've never been to one, have you?
Need Mercedes parts ?
I just realized I don't have a close(FP) at the end of that function... doh!
Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
Netsol? I've heard of them. They sound good.
I actually need to register a domain at this very moment and right now netsols website just plain flat out doesn't work. It's been this way from about 9:30 - 10:30 est.
Oy.
Need Mercedes parts ?
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