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Geek Stars From Atkinson to Zappa

Ian Lamont writes "You probably remember reading about Brian May getting a PhD in Astrophysics, but may not know about the many other celebrities from the music, TV, and film worlds who have studied science and technology in college and grad school, or are simply serious gearheads who like gadgets, games, and other geek pastimes. Computerworld has identified about 50 celebrities who fit the bill, including Dan Grimaldi (Patsy Parisi, The Sopranos) who has a Bachelor of Arts degree in math, a master's in operations research and a Ph.D. in data processing; Rowan Atkinson, who has a master's in electrical engineering from Queen's College, Oxford; and Todd Rundgren, who developed an early paint program called Utopia. Other folks on the list: Dr. Demento, Montel Williams, Natalie Portman, Curt Schilling, and Huey Lewis."

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  1. Portman by Mr.+Capris · · Score: 4, Funny
    From the article:

    Likewise, Natalie Portman -- beloved of geek fanboys worldwide since long before her Star Wars turns -- is an accomplished psychology student with two published papers under her belt, but psych isn't strictly a science or tech pursuit. (Waaahbulances will please park in the designated Comments section.) Hot grits, etc.
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    1. Re:Portman by Monsieur+Canard · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's Hedley.

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    2. Re:Portman by utopianfiat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I seem to remember something about Vin Diesel and D&D- and Asia Carrera playing Counterstrike.

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  2. Yawn by evilviper · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This isn't so much "geek stars" as it is an exhaustive list of "Everyone in Hollywood that isn't mechanically inept."

    Many actors majored in some field of science rather than art, and didn't flunk. Robin Williams plays video games and likes gadgets. Real big geek cred...

    Quite a waste of time.

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    1. Re:Yawn by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Many actors majored in some field of science rather than art..."

      Comic Guy voice: "I like to refer to these people as "closet geeks", their many faux friends call them "interesting"...pffft!"

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    2. Re:Yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually what is interesting is that very few of the people on this list ever publicly talk about their education or interests. We live in an age when kids are losing interest in science in technology and chasing the celebrity dream of fame and fortune. Many of these people could be good roll models to encourage kids back into science, technology and engineering.

      Also, Masi Oka has a double in Math and CS, and worked at ILM. I don't care what you say: Hiro Nakamura is a real geek. He still consults for ILM for Petes sake!

    3. Re:Yawn by dido · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Apparently he's also a huge fan of Neon Genesis Evangelion, and managed to get an Evangelion toy to appear in his movie One Hour Photo .

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    4. Re:Yawn by JamesRose · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shut Up! I'm sixteen years old, and the more of these guys getting sucked into chasing fame the greater my chances are of getting into a top university. Quit Ruining The Plan!

    5. Re:Yawn by CRCulver · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are you sure he didn't name her after Zelda Fitzgerald, the famous wife of F. Scott Fitzgerald?

    6. Re:Yawn by Chibi+Merrow · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well I hate to use Wikipedia as a source, but there's lots of news articles that quote that she was named after Princess Zelda. Haven't found the actual quote from Robin, though...

      Also in a movie of his, a toy used as a prop is a Production Model Evangelion toy from Robin Williams' personal collection. He's a geek.

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  3. Wait, so Bill Nye is actually an engineer? by talkingc · · Score: 2

    Bill Nye the Engineering Guy doesn't seem to ring as well... I don't know why, but a part of my childhood feels like it was deceived. :P

  4. Hey Editor! by pato101 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is mentioning Natalie Portman in a Slashdot story a good idea?

    1. Re:Hey Editor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      127.0.0.1

  5. Psychology == Geek? by DTemp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I was considering karma whoring and making a Natalie Portman joke early on in a discussion, almost guaranteeing a +5 Funny...

    But I decided to actually read the story. According to the article, and also Wikipedia, shes a Psyc student, published a couple papers. Seriously, thats enough to make the geek list? Am I in a dillusioned world that of the thousands of "stars" out there, there aren't many with more geek cred than this?

    Oh and I will karma whore... here's the link to the full article print link:

    http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=printArticleBasic&articleId=9043739

    1. Re:Psychology == Geek? by amRadioHed · · Score: 2, Informative

      The fact that she knows 6+ languages qualifies as geeky in my book. That's an impressive intellectual accomplishment, no two ways about it.

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    2. Re:Psychology == Geek? by somersault · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Understanding R2-D2 and Wookiees doesn't count. So basically we're saying that any smart/accomplished person is now a 'geek'? Hmm :P

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    3. Re:Psychology == Geek? by CRCulver · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As multilingualism is the rule for the world (there are something like 85 times as many languages as countries), most of humanity grows up learning without complaint various languages besides that which that use in their family for religious use, trading with neighbours, dealing with government, etc. For some reason, people in a few First World countries think learning other languages is hard and only geeks can manage, but it's an unrealistic outlook.

    4. Re:Psychology == Geek? by LinuxGrrl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As I recall, that's how it was at school.

  6. Don't forget Britney Spears! by CortoMaltese · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Re:Don't forget Britney Spears! by locokamil · · Score: 4, Funny

      That site saved me over and over and over again sophomore year in college. Knock Britney all you want for her alcoholism and poor parenting skills, but damn, she knows her semiconductor physics!

  7. Mensa by Propaganda13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What no mention of Asia Carrera? Mensa, gamer, pornstar

    1. Re:Mensa by porcupine8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Mensa is not an organization for smart people. It's an organization for people who feel the need to prove how smart they are. The vast majority of people who qualify for mensa are not members.

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  8. Zappa on music by ThirdPrize · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In his book "The Real Frank Zappa" released in 1989 Zappa explains his plan for the future of music distribution. He says that consumers arn't that interested in CDs or vinyl and explains how you could use the cable tv or telephone system to digitally transmit music (and cover art, etc) into peoples homes on a subscription basis. This was back in 1989, long before your interweb thing took off.

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    1. Re:Zappa on music by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2, Funny

      In his book "The Real Frank Zappa" released in 1989 Zappa explains his plan for the future of music distribution. He says that consumers arn't that interested in CDs or vinyl and explains how you could use the cable tv or telephone system to digitally transmit music (and cover art, etc) into peoples homes on a subscription basis. This was back in 1989, long before your interweb thing took off. But 1989 is not before Modems. And he could probably figure out that the time to send a song would drop dramatically in the future to the point where it was possible to send songs.

      I mean it's not rocket science to work out the Shannon limit for a phone line with the filters in the exchange tweaked would give DSL like speeds, or to notice that a frequency domain compression algorithm should be feasable for music and should compress raw PCM data from a CD by around 10:1. So would clearly be possible to send a digital copy of a song over a phoneline in about real time.

      Which is a terrible idea of course, because then the guy that paid have something which they can send to all their friends.
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    2. Re:Zappa on music by fafne · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, Zappa was a true genious. Another thing he said back in the seventies IIRC, was something in the lines of "sometime in the future, the bulk of new music will consist of recycled ideas". And look, we got sampling a number of years later. Today, the number of true musical innovation creations topping the charts steadily dwindle.

  9. Um, Dr. Demento *not* on the list by drphil · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Do the submitters actually RTFA? Dr. Demento's name was dropped in trying to put context around Prof. Tom Lehrer (not sure why you need to see Dr. D's name to understand who Lehrer is). BTW I think Dr. Demento has only a masters degree and was an A&R guy at one time - one of the least geeky jobs ever.

    1. Re:Um, Dr. Demento *not* on the list by puto · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are correct sir. I have an three original Lehrer records on vinyl that my dad gave me in 78, i was 8 years old. Harvard professor, political satirist, pianist.

      http://members.aol.com/quentncree/lehrer/

      Check the above for his lyrics.

      puto

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  10. Also expert driver by threaded · · Score: 2, Informative

    Rowan Atkinson also holds higher levels of British Driving license allowing him to drive HGVs aka articulated trucks on the highways. I'm told he performs many of the car stunts in the shows himself.

    1. Re:Also expert driver by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Danny Kaye once said that in order to do something funny you have to be able to do it well.

      If you think about it, anybody who is bad at something might do something funny by accident, but a pro has to get up on stage or on camera and be funny on cue. Kaye taught himself to sing, dance and fence tolerably well. Maybe not well enough to be a singing and dancing star or that you'd put your money on him in a duel, but well enough to be able to execute his idea of what might be funny accurately enough to make people laugh on purpose.

      There are lots of people in the world who can be funny opportunistically, but there is an incredible amount of craft even in something as deceptively simple as stand up comedy. What could be more natural than telling a funny story? Practically anything, if that means you have to tell that story five or more days a week, several times a night, to a paying audience that really wants your act to be over so they can see the guy they came to see. Sometimes if you see a comedian on TV who is funny, then look up his website, he'll have posted an earlier version of the exact same routine. Frank Caliendo's Bush impression comes to mind. If you look at the early videos of his routine, they are undeniably funny, but not as funny as the version he did on Letterman. That's unnatural. Most people who tell the same joke over and over again get less and less funny, but a skilled comedian is funny even if you've seen his routine a dozen times.

      I think that a mania for craft is an often overlooked element of geekdom. It certainly isn't your schooling that makes you a geek; it isn't an interest in science or math. You've got to be obsessed with doing things that other people can't. Lots of guys work on cars; quite a few are good at it. But the one who spends years trying to redesign his car is a geek, no matter what other trappings his intellectual life sports. Likewise being able to work a math problem that most people can't is not necessarily geeky. Having strongly held opinions about the best way to approach certain kinds of math problems is quintessentially geeky.

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    2. Re:Also expert driver by timeOday · · Score: 2, Funny

      We're supposed to be surprised that Mr. Bean's an EE? Sheesh, I would have assumed that all along :)

  11. Linkage? by threaded · · Score: 3, Funny

    Where's the link? You can't make a statement like that and not give us a link: it leaves us all frozen and petrified.

  12. Thomas Dolby spoke at the Be Developer's Conf. by MichaelCrawford · · Score: 5, Informative
    He and I were both BeOS developers back in the day.

    His real last name isn't Dolby, it's Robertson.

    When he spoke at the BDC, it was about his high-tech startup, which developed a new audio format.

    He got sued by the Dolby corporation; according to Wikipedia, the settlement allows him to use their trademark only when in the context of "Thomas ".

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  13. Re:The list is fine, but also... by splutty · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Uhm... Not to be a total bitch. But is there any actual reason why we would *not* want to totally forget about Keanu 'Rigor Mortis Is Acting, Really!' Reeves?

    I mean, in my admittedly not so humble opinion, he's about the most overrated semi-actor I know. His only good 'performance' was as Johnny Mnemonic, and that pretty much only because he had to play himself.

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  14. Dr. Demento's Thesis by vertigoCiel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here at Reed College (Dr. Demento's alma mater), finding Dr. Demento's senior thesis in the Thesis Tower is a common scavenger hunt item. While the topic (the operas Wozzeck and Pelleas et Melisande) isn't traditionally nerdy, no one can get through Reed without being a little bit geeky.

  15. Erdos-Bacon number by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't let this go past without bringing up Erdos-Bacon numbers.

    Natalie Portman has one of the better scores (Erdos 5 + Bacon 2 = 7). She did not (so far as I know) use her fame in her primary field (acting) to get preferential treatment in the other (science/maths.) There are scientists with a lower total, but I think they've all got an acting part on strength of their science fame (e.g. Stephen Hawking.)

    According to Wikipedia, a few people have lower Erdos-Bacon numbers which appear to be 'clean', but I haven't heard of them before: Kiralee Hayashi (3+3), Danica McKellar (4+2), Barney Pell (3+2), John Platt (3+3), Karl Schaffer (3+2), Brian Wandell (3+2), Wendelin Werner (3+3).

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  16. Not to be a bore, but.. by Ztream · · Score: 3, Insightful

    isn't this just a list of famous people who also have an academic degree? That's hardly synonymous with "geek" for me..

  17. A Bachelor of *arts* in Mathematics? by Fross · · Score: 2, Funny

    How does that work?

    "e^i*pi = -1. How does that make you feel?"

    "Pythagoras' Theorem is a^2 + b^2 = c^2. What do you think he was trying to convey by that?"

    1. Re:A Bachelor of *arts* in Mathematics? by itsdapead · · Score: 4, Informative

      How does that work?

      Quoth Wikipedia:

      Traditionally the term art was used to refer to any skill or mastery, a concept which altered during the Romantic period, when art came to be seen as "a special faculty of the human mind to be classified with religion and science".

      The "Bachelor of Science" (BSc) is a relatively recent invention by modern universities. "Modern" in this context means "Not already 600 years old when those Romantic trendies re-wrote the dictionary". Certainly the University of Oxford (est. 1069 give or take a few decades) doesn't have any truck with this sort of newspeak and awards BA for everything.

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    2. Re:A Bachelor of *arts* in Mathematics? by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you go to a liberal arts school, perhaps. The school I went to, Lawrence University, offers only BA degrees (well, also a B. Music for those who are in the conservatory), no matter what you study. I assure you that the math curriculum involves no asking how it makes you feel, and is good, solid, old-fashioned math. ;)

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    3. Re:A Bachelor of *arts* in Mathematics? by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 2, Funny

      Error: insufficient data. Please provide destinations for both trains.

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    4. Re:A Bachelor of *arts* in Mathematics? by xaxa · · Score: 3, Funny

      The trains are on the same track. An insect is flying back-and-forth between the two trains. When the trains collide, how will the insect feel? How will the train drivers feel? What about their families? Write an extended television news article ignoring the relative safety of rail travel. Give suitably twisted statistics where appropriate. Extra credit will be gained for interviewing survivors and asking them inappropriate questions live on national television.

      Part 2, law: outline a case for suing
      a) The driver of the first train,
      b) The manager of the railway company,
      c) A contractor working on the signalling system,
      d) A passer by,
      e) Your grandmother,
      f) The insect.
      Show how you would win each case.

    5. Re:A Bachelor of *arts* in Mathematics? by lahvak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Perhaps is a similar way as "Doctor of Philosophy in Mathematics"?

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  18. Obvious Missing Entries by Mister+Transistor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's Elvis Costello - former computer programmer who chucked it all for Rock 'N Roll...
    (He kept the geek look but lost the career!)

    Peter Gabriel is quite the computer nerd...

    Joe Walsh of the Eagles - he's got a Ham Radio license...

    And Jeff Foxworthy used to work for IBM, but I'm not sure how nerdy he was.

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    1. Re:Obvious Missing Entries by 3waygeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      More missing entries:

      Gary Shandling -- was an EE before going into comedy
      Cindy Crawford -- valedictorian of her high school class, received ChemE scholarship to Northwestern
      Teri Hatcher -- math major

    2. Re:Obvious Missing Entries by DannyO152 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Big fan of Elvis Costello, I respect the hell out of him, but I understand that the job was as basic operator, meaning he was mounting and unmountng data reels.

  19. Re:blimey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, it is only a Bachelors. The University of Oxford "upgrades" all B.A.s to M.A.'s a year after graduation.
    In Engineering (or actually, Engineering Science as they call it here), there is the M.Eng for undergraduate masters and for the few postgraduate masters courses, they are normally called M.Sc or M.Phil.
    So don't be fooled when you hear of Oxford or Cambridge graduates with Masters, it is a big con!

    P.S. How fitting that the captcha is ensnared...

  20. encouraging kids back into science ... by ja · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You mean they could be good role models like in: "I couldn't get a proper job despite my academic education(s) but hey, who can complain when you get millions for jumping up and down like a monkey?"

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  21. From Asia's Bio... by ConanG · · Score: 4, Informative

    This comes directly from her bio: http://www.asiacarrera.com/bio.html

    Geeky Academic Stuff - NJ spelling champ, National Mathematics League, Spanish National Honor Society, placed in National Geography, Language Arts, and Mathematics Olympiads.

    Geeky Other Stuff - Played classical piano at Carnegie Hall at 13 & 14 (Ernesto Lecuona's 'Malaguena' and Bach's 13th Invention), taught Colloquial English at Tsuruga College in Japan at 16

    Education - Attended performing arts high school (emphasis on instrumental music and visual arts), National Merit Scholarship Winner (for 1440 on SAT's), and Garden State Scholar (for nerdly grades). Attended Rutgers University on full academic scholarship, with a double-major in Business and Japanese.

  22. Brian May by BigBadBus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Brian May *doesn't* have a PhD. He has submitted his thesis, but hasn't been awarded it yet. Get your facts right.

  23. ...and what about George Clinton? by tpholland · · Score: 2, Funny

    He apparently has a BA in Mathematics.

  24. Psychology by Dr.+Cody · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think we've all got to recognize that the psychology department is where people go if they're not geeky enough to go into engineering or compsci, but have too much self-respect to wake up one day with a Bachelor's of microeconomics on their wall.

    Natalie Portman isn't a geek, she's just a girl who was smart enough not to spend four years with a bunch of Star Wars fans.

    1. Re:Psychology by MicktheMech · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is real science being practiced under the heading of Psychology. There is also pseudo-science people call psychology. What we really need is for a particular geeky slashdotter to track down her papers and have a look at the analysis.

  25. Kris Kristofferson by puto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Although he doesn't have the best voice. He did write a slew of hits, Bobby Mcgee and Help me Make it through the night. Was one of the highway men.

    1. Rhodes Scholar.
    2. Military Helicopter Pilot.
    3. Assigned as a professor at West Point but resigned his commission.
    4. Golden Gloves boxer.

    A true geek in the Heinlein sense. Smart and tough.

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  26. Dexter Holland, lead singer of The Offspring by bajan_on_ice · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dexter Holland, lead singer of the the band "The Offspring" has a Bachelor's degree in Biology and a Master's degree in Molecular Biology, both from the University of Southern California. He is also a PhD candidate in Molecular Biology.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_Holland

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  27. PhD !=geek by sm62704 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Having a PhD does not, of course, preclude nerdiness, but it doesn't guarantee it, either. My old boss Charlie (now retired in Florida) had a PhD and was, in fact, a true geek. OTOH, the fellow now in the next office from mine has a PhD but is dumb as a box of rocks, and has no geek qualifications whatever aside from being a fat dork who wears glasses. It doesn't take a high IQ to obtain a PhD, just stubbornness and a good work ethic. It does require a three digit IQ to be a nerd.

    The #1 all time famous nerd was Niel Armstrong, who was an engineer who famously said "I am and always will be a pocket protector wearing nerd". He accomplished the ultimate in nerdiness, being the first man to step foot on another world. That was a nerd's wet dream come true!

    -mcgrew
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    1. Re:PhD !=geek by xPsi · · Score: 2, Funny

      It does require a three digit IQ to be a nerd. In a base greater than nine.
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  28. Actually, geekier than it sounds. by porcupine8 · · Score: 4, Informative
    After discovering that she published her papers under her birth name of Hershlag (urg, no wonder she took a stage name), I found one of them on Google Scholar:

    Frontal Lobe Activation during Object Permanence: Data from Near-Infrared Spectroscopy

    Definitely geekier than your average psych paper.

    And it appears that her other paper, on which she was first author while in high school, was actually in chemistry:

    A Simple Method To Demonstrate the Enzymatic Production of Hydrogen from Sugar

    Though it's actually in a chemistry education journal, and appears to maybe have something to do with doing demonstrations in chemistry classrooms.

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    1. Re:Actually, geekier than it sounds. by olddotter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Damn. Now I am going to stay awake at night thinking of Portman. Sexy, Cute, and smart. Oh why why couldn't she be stupid...... :-(

  29. As long as Winnie Cooper made the list ... by louzerr · · Score: 2, Funny

    I had to make sure Danica McKellar made the list ... sure enough.

    She was recently on NPR talking about what she was doing with her degree in mathmatics ...

    Poor Kevin Arnold! How'd he let her slip away?

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  30. Most EE's with a soldering iron make me cringe.... by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    , probably because a shockingly large percentage of them don't seem to know which end to pick the thing up by. :)

    Over ~30 years in electronics, I have met many engineers who are whizzes with SPICE simulations or Fourier transforms, but put them on a bench with a screwdriver and a soldering iron, and you have created a weapon of mass destruction targeted at the most expensive piece of silicon in the vicinity. Some of them know this, and leave the hands-on development/prototyping work to engineering techs, or others with the experience and training for it (most of which is NOT taught in a university EE program anymore).

    The few engineers that I have met who can actually BUILD their ideas as well as they could design them got that part of their training outside of an EE program. Some started in TV repair shops, some were techs in the military, and others were ham radio operators, model rocketry geeks, or hardware hackers long before they got out of HS.

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  31. Todd Rundgren is the biggest geek on the list by K8Fan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Todd Rundgren only gets a single line:

    Our honor roll is in tune with three remarkable nerds. Todd Rundgren ("Hello It's Me") is legendary for developing the Utopia Graphics System, one of the very first paint programs, and has remained profoundly engaged with technology throughout his recording and producing career.

    ...but his involvement with technology has been greater than any other person in that list.

    • He animated his own 3D music video "Change Myself" in Lightwave on a big pile of Amiga 2000s.
    • He wrote a massively popular screen saver, Flowfazer.
    • He created the first completely interactive album "No World Order", allowing the listener to control the tempo, mood and vocal mix from a capella to instrumental for the Philips CDi platform.
    • He may have been the first artist to sell music electronically, via downloads on Compu$erve.
    • Wrote a very early OO operating system called HyperCode

    Pretty damn geeky.

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