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BBC "Not In Bed With Bill Gates"

whoever57 writes "The BBC's head of technology denied rumors that a secret deal with Microsoft was behind the XP-only launch of the BBC's iPlayer. According to Ashley Highfield, the reason that the player only supports Windows XP is that only a small number of Linux visitors have come to the BBC's website. Why he would expect a large number of Linux-based visitors to the site when the media downloads are Windows XP only is not clear. He also thinks that 'Launching a software service to every platform simultaneously would have been launch suicide,' despite the example of many major sites that support Linux (even if this is through the closed-source flash player)."

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  1. Re:Lame reason. by homey+of+my+owney · · Score: 5, Funny

    Never mind. The title creates an image that I'm not going to be able to get out of my head anytime soon.

  2. BBC's charter by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The interesting bit here is the Beeb isn't really a commercial organization. They're a public entity which is strictly required to keep itself free of commercial and political influence.

    1. Re:BBC's charter by Mr_Silver · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The interesting bit here is the Beeb isn't really a commercial organization. They're a public entity which is strictly required [wikipedia.org] to keep itself free of commercial and political influence.

      They're also required to account for their spending and for keeping costs down. If they proposed a completely open player and it was a significant amount of money more than the Microsoft one then they would have to justify why they went with the costly option.

      Granted I've not worked in a non-profit organisation, but even so, I think that justifying a larger spend on something that affects less than 0.004% of visitors is going to be a very tough sell for anyone.

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  3. A wise designer once told me... by JetScootr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "You don't decide how big to build the bridge by counting the number of people swimming the river."
    Cuz once the bridge is up, hundreds more who couldn't swim the distance will want to cross.

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  4. Why not design for open in the first place? by Nomen+Publicus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Beeb did it because it was the cheapest, easiest, but not best, option.

    That said, it was a really stupid move and managed to get everybody from the smallest Linux hacker to the UK government commenting in public about the policy.

    Creating an open "player" for all platforms would have taken more resources at first, but from that point on all future platforms would be supported by the people who use the platform.

    Sadly, the Beeb needs closed source to implement the no-save and timed delete features forced on them by others.

  5. Re:1% of user base by xra · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sad to say I have to agree with her. With the exception of Slashdots' visitors the majority of the computer users run Windows. That is why the company I write software for only develops browser applications for windows. You do not have to write separate browser applications, just one application that wouldn't be restricted to MS technologies. This way you would ensure that regardless of their numbers linux (and other non-windows) users would have access. No extra cost here.
  6. oh god, not this again... by greebowarrior · · Score: 5, Informative

    When will people stop whining about iPlayer being XP only? There's no secret Microsoft alliance, and no great conspiracy.

    The main reason why iPlayer uses Windows DRM is because the companies who produce content for the BBC didn't want their shows streamed without some kind of rights management, because, god forbid, it should end up on bit torrent. The cause of this is most likely ignorance on their part, because, as we all know, DRM stops piracy, saves lives, cures cancar and ends world famine.

    The core code behind iPlayer is completely cross-browser, having worked on some of it, I know that it conforms to BBC New Media guidelines, which specifically state that all HTML, JavaScript, etc must be compatible with all major browsers (we even tested major elements of it in Firefox, and quite a few of the developers worked on Mac/Linux boxes)

    There has always been a plan for a Mac/Linux version of iPlayer, but the current DRM requirements being imposed on the iPlayer Core team make it somewhat difficult for them to actually get working on it

  7. Re:Of course it was by teh+kurisu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If MS and the BBC were in cahoots, don't you think there would be a Vista version? Microsoft doesn't want you buying XP any more.

  8. Re:Definitely a screwup somewhere by goddidit · · Score: 5, Funny

    An incovenient truth: There really is only about thousand linux users.
    However they are a very vocal minority and because it's somewhat cool to be a linux guy
    some people claim that they run linux when infact they don't.
    I personally run Windows Vista Home Basic but I pretend to be a linux expert on various internet forums.
    Linux's "popularity" is really just a scam to fool newbies into thinking that people actually run linux.
    Then the newbies try actually installing linux and fail miserably,
    you must really be a kernel hacker to install it.
    Frustrated newbies then ask questions on the various forums and on irc and everybody answers to them in complete gibberish. We all get a good laugh that way (expect the noobs, they try the bogus solutions and fail once again).

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