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Whose Laws Apply On the ISS?

Hugh Pickens writes "Whose laws apply if astronauts from different countries get into a fight, make a patentable discovery, or damage equipment belonging to another country while on the International Space Station? According to the Outer Space Treaty of 1967, ratified by 98 nations, states have legal jurisdiction within spacecraft registered to them. When the space station was assembled from modules supplied by the United States, Russia, Japan and the European Space Agency (ESA), partners rejected an initial proposal that US law should prevail throughout the space station. "It was agreed that each state registers its own separate elements, which means that you now have a piece of the US annexed to a piece of Europe annexed to a piece of Japan in outer space, legally speaking," said Dr Frans von der Dunk of the International Institute of Air and Space Law at the University of Leiden. So what happens if a crime is committed in space? "If somebody performs an activity which may be considered criminal, it is in the first instance his own country which is able to exercise jurisdiction," Dr. von der Dunk added."

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  1. Dr. von der Dunk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Didn't he invent the "Coffee and Donut" combination?

  2. We clearly need by dnormant · · Score: 5, Funny

    a Federation.

    1. Re:We clearly need by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Funny

      Bah. Only a strong central government can calm the chaos. We need an Empire.

    2. Re:We clearly need by presarioD · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nahhh, only benevolent and wise entities can lead the sheep. We need overlords...

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    3. Re:We clearly need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I, for one, will welcome them...

    4. Re:We clearly need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      ...Which is like Brannigan's love - hard and fast.

    5. Re:We clearly need by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nonsense. Space has already been claimed by RMS as an inferior Emacs process.

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    6. Re:We clearly need by BelDion · · Score: 2, Funny

      Spawning.

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  3. If astronauts fight.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ..the winner makes the law. Duh.

  4. Fingers crossed. by Asm-Coder · · Score: 3, Funny

    I had hoped that astronauts would be above this, but, nobody seems to be above anything nowadays.

    1. Re:Fingers crossed. by sconeu · · Score: 4, Funny

      They are.... by about 150 miles.

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    2. Re:Fingers crossed. by monoqlith · · Score: 1, Funny

      Which raises the (perhaps even more important) question: If an astronaut soils his/her Depends, which country is most responsible for changing it?

  5. Crimes in space by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Funny

    If a crime is committed in space, we need to execute a nice antique trial-by-fire... if they survive decompression, they must be innocent. If not, they're guilty. It's foolproof!

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    1. Re:Crimes in space by idontgno · · Score: 4, Funny

      What else floats in microgravity?

      Apples!
      Churches!
      Lead! Lead!
      Mud!
      Small rocks!

      A duck...

      Correct!

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  6. I know ... by ubrgeek · · Score: 3, Funny

    Let Sealand claim it :)

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  7. I wonder.. by aevan · · Score: 2, Funny

    So when are the Dutch sending up the hydroponics section again?
    Still think be more amusing to have it be whoever you're currently flying over. "3-2-1-Not Legal!"

    Originally had thought it really didn't matter, seeing as they 'rigorously screen astronauts'...but after the Diaper Psycho incident, this might come to be of importance soon enough. Bugger of a wait for trial if something happens on a Mars mission though.

  8. Earth to Cosmonaut Dmitry Sklyarov by Weaselmancer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Urgent! Do NOT GO into the module made by the United States.

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    rediculous.
  9. but but but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Astronauts don't break the law....
    Oh wait...

  10. Extremes by orzetto · · Score: 4, Funny

    What happens if you have a joint in the Dutch module and some jolly fellow pushes you over in the Singapore module? Do you get spaced?

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  11. Million dollar pen? Use a pencil by Riddler+Sensei · · Score: 2, Funny

    I foresee the international trial of the century wherein American astronauts are accused of stealing pencils from the Russians after their own space aged pens die.

  12. Directive B10.81 by skydude_20 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Brannigans Law

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    1. Re:Directive B10.81 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Hard and fast.

  13. Re:Independence by joeytmann · · Score: 1, Funny

    we wish to cecede from the planet.....? Actually that doesn't sounds like to bad of an idea as messed up as it is.

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  14. heh by B3ryllium · · Score: 3, Funny

    In Space, no one can hear you scream Habeus Corpus. :)

    1. Re:heh by vertinox · · Score: 2, Funny

      In Space, no one can hear you scream Habeus Corpus. :)

      I can only imagine the expression on the face of the government agent who tries to water board someone for the first time.

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  15. Aliens from outer space by ishmalius · · Score: 4, Funny

    We used to joke that, technically, cosmonauts who launched from Baikonur and landed at Canaveral were exactly that.

  16. One solution... by lpangelrob · · Score: 4, Funny

    1.) Provide each astronaut a handgun of personal choice
    2.) Place astronauts back-to-back in the center of the longest capsule on board
    3.) If velcro boots are provided, order each astronaut to take ten steps toward the edge of the capsule. If not, approximate 10 seconds of floating in opposite directions before turning and firing.
    4.) In the event the space station is still intact and both parties are still alive, review tape footage and declare the astronaut with the most matrix-like moves the winner.

  17. Obligatory by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

    In Soviet Russian module, the Party determines the laws.

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  18. Why the Law of Space of course... by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 3, Funny

    So far its only tenent is that "No one can hear you scream," but they're working on it.

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  19. Re:Well, fortunately - by skoaldipper · · Score: 2, Funny

    Putting on diapers and driving nonstop across the country to kill your romantic rival with a hammer will get you arrested pretty much anywhere.
    Except in Soviet wing of Space Station, where lovesick stalker wearing cosmic ray infected diapers arrests you!

    Provided their hammer is bigger than yours, of course.
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  20. Re:Illegal region-free DVD player aboard the ISS by tgd · · Score: 4, Funny

    The MPAA can pursue it, but they need to show up in person.

  21. Re:Probably a lawyer by Applekid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Space truly is the final frontier [of litigation].

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  22. Re:Probably a lawyer by peragrin · · Score: 2, Funny

    because when the borg attack I shall use lawyers as my shield.

    Let the borg assimilate that.

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  23. Passport aboard? by Bananenrepublik · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why don't they simply carry their passports around, making sure that they get a stamp everytime they enter or leave a compartment? They should also set up extradition treaties in case the American murderer of the Russian cosmonaut hides in the Japanese compartment. Of course, if he manages to reach the American compartment, where he can't be extradited, the Russians may decide to decompress the station, which would force the murderer into the Russian escape pod. Sounds like a space soap opera, and more beneficial to humankind than all this research jabberjibber that noone understands.

  24. Defend Our Borders!!! by Bastardchyld · · Score: 2, Funny

    I propose building a wall around our ISS modules. I am tired of illegal space men crossing our borders to steal our resources. Although on the upside at least we do not give them drivers licenses.

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  25. Re:Independence by saider · · Score: 2, Funny

    What would they trade for foodstuffs? And water. And oxygen. And any number of other things.

    The nation's chief export will be zero gravity porn.

    But they will have to get more attractive citizens.

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  26. Re:Ape law! by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dude, dogs were first. Those astronauts better be prepared to sniff some ass...

  27. What's 10000 lawyers in low earth orbit ? by Ihlosi · · Score: 2, Funny

    A good start.