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Murdoch's New Internet Strategy for the WSJ

Reservoir Hill writes "Once Rupert Murdoch's acquisition of Dow Jones & Company is completed later this year, Murdoch plans to provide free access to The Wall Street Journal's Web site, trading subscription fees for anticipated ad revenue. The WSJ web site, one of the few news sites to successfully introduce a subscription model, currently has around one million subscribers and generates about $50 million annually in user fees. Murdoch's decision to move to an advertising based model comes amid reports that newspaper's online profits margins are skyrocketing worldwide. Murdoch's previous internet initiative, his acquisition of MySpace has worked out very well. He actually first discussed this two years ago when he spoke before the American Society of Newspaper Editors on the role of newspapers in this digital world.""

62 comments

  1. Idiots. they should have done it long ago by unity100 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the companies who would like to see their ad in myspace would pale in comparison to the ones that would put their ads on wsj. if they had done it long ago, they would have dwarfed that $50 mil buck a month for long now.

    1. Re:Idiots. they should have done it long ago by Slashidiot · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I guess now that's the only way ahead. It is hard to support your business with only subscription revenues. First it was the NYT and now the WSJ. I think in the long run, the right business model is similar to what slashdot has right now. Offer plenty for free, get ad revenues, offer a premium for a small fee, for hardcore users.

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    2. Re:Idiots. they should have done it long ago by captainwisdom · · Score: 1

      Say what you will about Murdoch (I like him - I'm a conservative), he's a helluva businessman. Although more needs to be done, he's thankfully changed the face of news in this country.

    3. Re:Idiots. they should have done it long ago by slashchuck · · Score: 2, Informative

      "... that $50 mil buck a month ..."
      That's $50 mil bucks a year.
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    4. Re:Idiots. they should have done it long ago by TapeCutter · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      New fangled computerised print technology combined with old fashion union busting is how Murdoch turned his millions into billions way back in the 80's.

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    5. Re:Idiots. they should have done it long ago by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 2, Insightful

      the companies who would like to see their ad in myspace would pale in comparison to the ones that would put their ads on wsj. if they had done it long ago, they would have dwarfed that $50 mil buck a month for long now.

      This hasn't always been the case. Recall what happened to online ad rates 5 years ago. A steady subscription model can be quite preferable to wildly fluctuating internet ad rates. Kind of like how a CD making 5% can be better than junk bonds that might make 15%...or lose a ton.

      Presumably the ad rates have risen enough to make the risk worth it. But I don't think this was simply incompetence on their part. I look forward to it, as I like reading the journal but am too cheap to subscribe.

    6. Re:Idiots. they should have done it long ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This hasn't always been the case. Recall what happened to online ad rates 5 years ago. A steady subscription model can be quite preferable to wildly fluctuating internet ad rates. Kind of like how a CD making 5% can be better than junk bonds that might make 15%...or lose a ton.

      And if you're big enough, wild fluctuations in the cash flow from one small segment of your business don't matter if the average is high enough over time.

    7. Re:Idiots. they should have done it long ago by sseaman · · Score: 1

      the companies who would like to see their ad in myspace would pale in comparison to the ones that would put their ads on wsj. if they had done it long ago, they would have dwarfed that $50 mil buck a month for long now.

      I'm not sure about this.

      AFAIK, everyone with money who reads newspapers for business news already has a WSJ subscription, and the majority of these readers probably prefer to read the print copy. Those who are interested in business news, but who don't have a subscription or are put off by the yearly access fee to on-line content probably aren't the target consumer for the ads that will appear.

      I don't know the numbers, it's just a hunch. I think the penetration of WSJ in the households of the wealthy is much greater than the NYT, which therefore benefits from facilitating access to its content.

      Tossing away the subscription model at a time when there is a rise in adblocking software doesn't necessarily seem like a smart move to me, but perhaps WSJ revenue isn't the primary motivation in this move, which will undoubtedly grow WSJ's readership.

    8. Re:Idiots. they should have done it long ago by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1

      And if you're big enough, wild fluctuations in the cash flow from one small segment of your business don't matter if the average is high enough over time.

      Only if they have heavy cash reserves to absorb the fluctuation, and the segment is small relative to other pursuits. I don't think that was true for the old ownership. Also, they apparently built a rather successful subscription model, one of very few to do so. So it's not like they were hurting from the lessened ad revenue, really.

      With the acquisition, of course, Murdoch does in fact have the cash and diversification to help balance fluctuations. He also has the ability to use MSJ as a loss-leader if he so chooses.

    9. Re:Idiots. they should have done it long ago by hey! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Say what you will about Murdoch (I like him - I'm a conservative), he's a helluva businessman. Although more needs to be done, he's thankfully changed the face of news in this country.


      You realize that those two statements are not logically related, right? Just because a news organization takes a step in the right (that is to say correct) direction businesswise doesn't mean that is a step in the right direction for news.
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    10. Re:Idiots. they should have done it long ago by uniquename72 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm a conservative, too. Which is why I loathe the man for helping turn TV news into infotainment.

      Even if you agree with the right-ward slant of Fox news (and, being a conservative -- rather than a neocon -- I do not), you gotta admit, there just ain't much news there.

  2. Is this irony? by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    That a story about an online newspaper dropping subscriptions is on an online newspaper that requires a subscription?

    Oh well, we get a free newspaper but in exchange it means yet more of the media being owned by the same guy.

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    1. Re:Is this irony? by mrbluze · · Score: 1

      Oh well, we get a free newspaper but in exchange it means yet more of the media being owned by the same guy.

      I agree it's a bit ironic, but seeing this in the context of a broader media war, it might make more sense. Research is showing that people are turning away from newspapers, both printed and on-line, as their source of news. Paid journalism is finding itself in a bit of a decline and the void is being filled by amateur bloggers. They have more freedom to sensationalize and report their own view from the coalface. Who knows if it's more reliable to read the New York Times for your financial news or Jim's Stock Blog? Many people I know have found the blogs & forums to be a much more useful and timely source of information about what they need to know.

      The New York Times is likely to survive any trends against mainstream media, but they are like a closed source company competing against the open source equivalent of news, which is free as in speech, free as in beer.

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    2. Re:Is this irony? by polar+red · · Score: 1

      yup, no-one can stop free information flow anymore, the old media-conglomerates still try, but are losing the battle, Allthough i think search-engines will have a certain hand in the flow of information, but not more than that.

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    3. Re:Is this irony? by umghhh · · Score: 1

      where is the surprise here? The forces of market together with the forces of human stupidity and ignorance are so powerful that nothing can stop them. I wonder what that means to freedom of speech and other such basic rights however - to paraphrase what agent Smith once famously asked: 'what good is freedom of speach if you are unable to speak?
      I wonder how well the private blogs will do against such freedom of speech as to be seen coming. Or is it my depression obscuring the rose picture of reality?

    4. Re:Is this irony? by dc29A · · Score: 1

      Who knows if it's more reliable to read the New York Times for your financial news or Jim's Stock Blog? Many people I know have found the blogs & forums to be a much more useful and timely source of information about what they need to know. For stuff like computer hardware, music or video games, I read blogs. They are simply way more insightful and full of interesting information compared to sellout game magazines and other mainstream computer magazines. As for music, there is no coverage of underground music anyways, so I turn to ezines and blogs.

      I wouldn't be surprised that this happens to other mainstream media. I mean, I rather read a leftist blog than watch/read CNN who all they do is publish stories about Britney and other Hollywood retards and in the process ignore important news.

  3. Are WSJ readers too dumb to use ad blockers? by SystemFault · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is Murdoch counting on the proposition that WSJ readers too dumb to use ad blockers like the Fireox/Adblock Pro combination?

    1. Re:Are WSJ readers too dumb to use ad blockers? by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      You are aware that the vast majority of normal people who use the Internet actually enjoy the advertisements right?

      They click on the monkey.

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    2. Re:Are WSJ readers too dumb to use ad blockers? by piojo · · Score: 1

      Is Murdoch counting on the proposition that WSJ readers too dumb to use ad blockers like the Fireox/Adblock Pro combination? First off, not everyone that allows ads is dumb. I allow slashdot's ads so they get a few cents from me, now and then (correct me if I'm wrong--if it's pay per click, I might as well turn the ads back off).

      But I agree with you. Maybe it's possible to make ad revenue right now, but it might become increasingly difficult, as more people adopt ad blocking technologies. If the ultimate goal is free news, ad blocking is harmful.
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    3. Re:Are WSJ readers too dumb to use ad blockers? by SystemFault · · Score: 3, Insightful

      First, let me apologize for my sloppy typing and perhaps for an over-generalization.

      I have no objection to a *moderate* amount of advertising. I also have no objection to the Loch Ness monster, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy.

      Let's face it: most advertisement supported sites attempt to shove a hundred times as many bits of bandwidth consuming advertisements as compared to actual news text. That, along with pop up/pop under windows, cookie madness, and tracking -- well, is it really any surprise when consumers take measures to protect themselves?

    4. Re:Are WSJ readers too dumb to use ad blockers? by aussie_a · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I don't use ad blockers as I prefer to support sites I enjoy. If I don't want to view the ads, I don't steal their bandwidth. Its that simple.

    5. Re:Are WSJ readers too dumb to use ad blockers? by slapout · · Score: 1

      Perhaps he's planning on acquiring an Ad block company and making money that way :-)

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    6. Re:Are WSJ readers too dumb to use ad blockers? by Nazlfrag · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I allow ads onto sites that I frequent, though I block ads by default and have the larger advertisers (doubleclick, google etc.) blocked in my host file. Still, I never think I'm stealing bandwidth by not looking at ads, that is completely disingenuous. I have to pay for bandwidth on my end, if they don't want to pay for bandwidth on theirs they can get off the net.

    7. Re:Are WSJ readers too dumb to use ad blockers? by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      Why don't you just steal bread and other stuff as well then?

  4. 50milj and nytimes URLs by siyavash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    $50milj is nothing for him. He rather open it up to masses so he can "reach out" with "right" information to them. ;)

    Also, I know it's offtopic but can /. please stop using URLs directed to nytimes? They all seem to need to login.

  5. New revenue model by TheSlashaway · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Murdoch's plan is to make the newspaper free because his new revenue model is to shape public opinion with articles to buy his investments.

    1. Re:New revenue model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's nothing new about that for Rupe. Reading the business pages in his current publications is more amusing than informative.

  6. Depends on how he plays... by cthulu_mt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If Murdoch doesn't play around with the newsroom the WSJ should continue its tradition of excellence. I've been reading the NY Times since it went free online and have been anticipating the same for the WSJ.

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  7. Re:imho by sticky_charris · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Unless you appreciate Murdoch's sided opinion, xenophobia, over-dramatization and FUD. Clearly a lot of Brits and Americans are lapping it up.

  8. The only case by jbolden · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I think this is worth discussing. For about 10 years the WSJ was the perfect example of a site that could get paid subscribers in large numbers, unlike any other newspaper in the USA. It had a large body of specialized content not available elsewhere (and no the wonderful data tables in the WSJ are not available in blogs) and a dedicated readership. So we aren't talking a site that has gone from subscriber to ad-revenue but rather the example site. Moreover the WSJ unlike most other newspapers hasn't devastated its news force (like almost all other mainstream media), its customers demand high quality content and are very willing to pay a premium for it.

    A freely available WSJ could really change American media culture back to being one involving research and large staffs of knowledgeable people. I'm not sure how to think about this but this is a major piece of news and a change in the internet.

    P.S. Please do not judge the WSJ by its editorial page. The rest of the newspaper has an entirely different feel.

    1. Re:The only case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      A freely available WSJ could really change American media culture back to being one involving research and large staffs of knowledgeable people.

      Or, knowing Murdoch, he's just whoring the good name of the WSJ out for a few years to get some value out of his investment. The quality of the journalism is irrelevant to him.

  9. So what by Byzboy · · Score: 0, Troll

    Once Rupert gets his hands on WSJ, it will turn into the same POS that everything else becomes that he touches. A vitriolic, nationalistic, jingoistic, oversimplified propaganda sheet. When is he going to die anyway, he's had a good run. The world will be a better place when he's gone (for at least 10 milliseconds until the next evil tyrant emerges to take his place).

    1. Re:So what by nomadic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A vitriolic, nationalistic, jingoistic, oversimplified propaganda sheet.

      The hilarious thing is he's nationalistic and jingoistic about more than one country. Didn't think that was possible.

  10. There are profit margins for print media? by krygny · · Score: 1

    Hmm ... Why would online ad revenue profit margins skyrocket?

    Two interrelated reasons:
    1) There are only fixed costs associated with online delivery, and they are very low. After you reach your first reader, whether you reach your 2nd reader or your 2nd billion readers, your costs never change. The fixed costs of print (presses, pressmen, plants, etc.) are much greater than online production.
    2) On line production has no recurring costs. The recurring costs for print (newsprint, ink, delivery, transportation, etc.) are really what's skyrocketing today, and will kill print media.

    Of course, print eyeballs are like gold compared to online eyeballs (say, cellulose).

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    1. Re:There are profit margins for print media? by j-pimp · · Score: 1

      1) There are only fixed costs associated with online delivery, and they are very low. After you reach your first reader, whether you reach your 2nd reader or your 2nd billion readers, your costs never change. The fixed costs of print (presses, pressmen, plants, etc.) are much greater than online production.

      You need more than a cable modem to deliver to the Wall Street Journal, and as you reach more people you eventually need more servers which cost more electricity, and unles you host your own data center, cost you more a month. Its not quite at the point where each hit adds money to your costs, but there are relative costs per hit.

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  11. Re:imho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As Hitler said (I paraphrase): "Repeat the propaganda enough in as many different ways as possible, and the great undiscerning masses will believe it."

    Murdoch is one of the most egregious pseudo-fascists to have twisted the arms of naive British politicians and he spands vast amounts in the US to get his way there, too. Not being a good businessman in the capitilist competitive sense, he trades on politicians weaknesses. It doesn't mean he's good, just that most politicians are dumb, corrupt or powerless. His outfit pays barely any taxes in the UK after having done a deal with Maggie. I think for a while, News International was paying only 4% or thereabouts. Of course, us ordinary oiks without the propaganda value of a newspaper chain to get the politicians slobbering don't get those sorts of break.

  12. The Monkey by handy_vandal · · Score: 3, Funny

    You are aware that the vast majority of normal people who use the Internet actually enjoy the advertisements right? They click on the monkey.

    Is this true? I remain unconvinced.

    Shock the monkey, yes. Spank the monkey, absolutely. But click on the monkey? I dunno.

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    1. Re:The Monkey by jo42 · · Score: 1

      Never underestimate the power of an infinite number of monkeys, or descendants thereof, clicking.

  13. Works for me by dlc3007 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I would much prefer an ad-based strategy rather than subscription. Adblock works great!

  14. Why the old media still trumps the new one... by dada21 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a semi-pro blogger who does receive compensation (from advertising, paid product placement, and subscriptions), I still believe there is a long way to go to compete with the biggest old media outlets, especially newspapers. The key difference that I've seen, so far, is that the newspapers still have reporters, while the new media has just journalists. There is a decline in old media reporting, though, as more and more newspapers just regurgitate whatever the AP is reporting. Google News is hilarious when you find 500 identically written articles by major media outlets.

    The WSJ has a unique combination of reporters, journalists, and oped pieces. They're going to be hard to topple. Their biggest downside is their support for war and their support for more government. So far, though, it has not hampered their growth.

    I am one of the few new media writers that still has faith in the old media, but not most of it. There's room for a few dozen major newspapers to compete, but the majority of them will find themselves without readers, or advertisers, as they continue to lose market share to the new media writers who are faster, more varied in opinion, and closer to home for their readers.

    1. Re:Why the old media still trumps the new one... by hey! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, that's the thing about the WSJ: a tradition of top notch shoe leather reporting with utterly untainted right wing editorials. It's different people doing each function, and each function serves a different purpose. The editorial position is the sizzle that sells the proverbial steak, and the journalism is the steak that gives the sales pitch its credibility.

      The big question everybody's asking is whether Murdoch is coming in with an LBO kind of mentality, looking at the WSJ as collection of unrelated profit and cost centers that can be chopped up and sold off or recombined, spinning off expensive activities like reporting so they can perish in obscurity.

      Having a new media strategy is actually a pretty positive sign. Newspapers are under financial stress, and many are responding by the journalistic equivalent of eating their seed corn. They're cutting back on expensive reporting and buying into cheap opinion. Having an aggressive, well financed strategy requires differentiating yourself from other aggressive, well financed strategies. Murdoch already has financially efficient, opinion centric media. Perhaps he is planning on using WSJ as a way to rebrand the same old stuff, but he may see this as an opportunity to get in with a contrarian strategy. As traditional news outlets become more Murdochian, he can pincer them between the rock and hard place by having products that have less journalistic content (or scruples) than the competitors, and other products with more journalistic content. If he can make both products profitable, he can leave his competitors in an untenable middle ground.

      Since the traditional paper based business is unprofitable, that means having a new media strategy.

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  15. Not dumb, don't care. Don't confuse the two. by Shivetya · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It isn't that people who don't use ad-blocking software are dumb, it is more likely they don't care. Especially if the ads are non obtrusive.

    I only block ads that open new windows and those which sound/video. Other than that I will let the ad display; after all it already consumed my bandwidth - ad blocking plug ins don't stop it from getting to my pc, just displaying it. I figure its not a big price to pay to view content for free.

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  16. Well give hime credit by Dark_MadMax666 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Mr. Murdoch is very smart businessman and adapts well to new time and technology . That does not change the fact that Murdoch uses its media empire as propaganda in best tradition of Dr. Goebbels. I would not like to see the world where the majority of internet news/commentary sources is controlled by such guy. Thankfully internet is really hard to control now.

  17. Murdoch's Previous Initiatives Not All Success... by kalidasa · · Score: 1

    Murdoch's previous internet initiative, his acquisition of MySpace has worked out very well.

    His previous project, sure. But his first Internet initiative, the Delphi online service (a "competitor" to AOL), wasn't so successful. Indeed, it was so unsuccessful that it's hard to find any trace of it on the Internet.

  18. A more important issue: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What papers are "Not" owned by Murdoch these days? I've ended up canceling every paper I get, as he bought them up. Ever since he has destroyed the Times.

    1. Re:A more important issue: by VJ42 · · Score: 1

      Well, if you're in the UK there's always Private Eye...
      For those of you who aren't British: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Eye

      It's the only printed news organ that I buy; Indeed at ~£25 a year I have a subscription.

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  19. Re:Not dumb, don't care. Don't confuse the two. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Other than that I will let the ad display; after all it already consumed my bandwidth - ad blocking plug ins don't stop it from getting to my pc, just displaying it.

    That's why you should block ads with a decent hosts file - your computer won't even contact the ad server, let alone use up bandwidth.

  20. OpinionJournal considered harmful by senahj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The straight-news part of the WSJ has some of the best and most eclectic reportage out there. It will be wonderful to be able to read it online for free (as in beer).

    The OpinionJournal is so factually-challenged and idealogically blinkered that, at free, it costs too much.

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  21. Sorry they've marked you down by paladinwannabe2 · · Score: 1

    There is a certain amount of truth in what you say- probably why you got modded down so quickly. I also prefer letting (most) ads run- I figure if I'm getting benefit from a site, they might as well make money off me (or try, anyway- just because I see ads doesn't mean I'll click on them.) Pop-up ads, of course, are not acceptable, and those will be blocked.

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  22. But, when will ... by Skapare · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ... the New York Times drop their stupid login requirement?

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  23. Don't do it! It's a mistake! by r_jensen11 · · Score: 1

    Putting more ads on the wsj's website would be a major mistake if it's anything like what the BBC is trying to do. Odds are they're going to piss off their main customer base due to annoying and obtrusive flash ads that distract the readers from what they're trying to read. And since this is the WSJ, these readers typically think that their time is scarce and don't want to have to be annoyed with said distracting ads.

  24. I'd rather pay $100 a year by nbauman · · Score: 1

    I've been reading the WSJ since 1972. When they went on line I bought a subscription.

    Over the years, the news section of the WSJ has been the most reliable source of general news that I've been able to find (and I also read the NYT every day). They've resisted influence by advertisers, government intimidation, and the bullshit that other news sources fall for. I'm in a good position to judge health care, which is my specialty. Here's an example of the kind of coverage which you literally won't find anywhere else: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06339/743713-84.stm

    As part of its own coverage of the Murdoch takeover attempt, the WSJ itself had a story summarizing how Murdoch has influenced and distorted the news, for his own selfish or partisan reasons, in his other holdings, and how he's made and broken promises of editorial integrity and independence. The worst example I remember was that he dropped the BBC news off a satellite feed to China, because he wanted to ingratiate the Chinese government to get access to the Chinese market. The BBC was running stories about China's human rights abuses. Oh, the hypocrisy -- a self-proclaimed Reagan conservative selling out his principles to the Communists. (Although you could argue that he has no principles to sell out.)

    Past performance is the best predictor of futher performance. I'd rather pay $100 a year to get accurate, unbiased news from the WSJ than get the WSJ free after Murdoch does to it what he's done to all his other media holdings. You get what you pay for, and the WSJ used to be worth paying for.

  25. Bill, Hillary, and Rupert by fm6 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm still trying to figure out how the dude can be Bill O'Reilly's boss and still be good friends with Hillary Clinton.

    1. Re:Bill, Hillary, and Rupert by Bluesman · · Score: 1

      You're probably operating under the mistaken assumption that anything those people say is what they actually think, and not just what plays well to an audience.

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    2. Re:Bill, Hillary, and Rupert by fm6 · · Score: 1

      I think you're confusing cynicism with doublethink. Someone like O'Reilly may be motivated by the desire to satisfy his followers' prejudices, but that doesn't mean he doesn't believe most of his own BS. I've met too many people with the same psychology to believe that it's all a show.

  26. I just can't see it by pugugly · · Score: 1

    Sorry, conservative or not, getting your business info from a Murdoch owned company seems to me to be a good way to go broke.

    Put it this way, how much is your decision to buy into the stock called "Iraq War" influenced by whether you listen to NPR or Fox? Going by this reputation for fair and balanced, do you want to risk your money in the belief that Rupert Murdoch wouldn't deceive you when he can make actually make money doing so?

    I'll wait a few years and see what happens to news coverage from the journal, but my knee jerk response is that assuming that Murdoch *won't* bias reporting to his advantage is naive.

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  27. Moderator on Crack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF? How is this flamebait?

    1. Re:Moderator on Crack? by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      Probably the mention of the word "union", plus the fact that most mods around here were still in nappies when Murdoch was raiding Fleet street and Thatcher was implementing a centuries old joke by importing Australian coal to Newcastle.

      Whatever you think of Murdoch and unions, one has to admit he knows how to make money and can spot a bargain owned by technophobes from the other side of the planet.

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