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Is Apple Tracking iPhone Users Through IMEI?

ariefwn writes ""As I sit here applying a new layer of Reynolds tin foil to my international hat of conspiracy, its been proven that Apple tracks iPhone usage and tracks IMEI numbers of all their iPhones worldwide. Hidden in the code of the 'Stocks' and 'Weather' widgets is a string that sends the IMEI of your phone to a specialized URL that Apple collects. I wonder if there will be any implications to owners of hacked iPhones..."

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  1. Yes, and the problem is? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Informative

    You signed an agreement when you bought the device.

    When you interact with Apple, we may collect personal information relevant to the situation, such as your name, mailing address, phone number, email address, and contact preferences; your credit card information and information about the Apple products you own, such as their serial numbers and date of purchase; and information relating to a support or service issue.

    However people will expect this to be at manual support time and not all the time.

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    1. Re:Yes, and the problem is? by wattrlz · · Score: 5, Funny

      And if someone got it off eBay? In that case they can probably afford to sue.
  2. Just a few more minutes... by mattgreen · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm waiting for someone to respond with an eight page analysis of why this isn't really a big deal, complete with immaculate formatting and excellent grammar. Then everyone simply looks at the length of the post and says, "aha! see, it ISN'T a problem! Not that I read it all, but I'm with *this* guy!"

    Don't let me down.

    1. Re:Just a few more minutes... by ironwill96 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ok here goes.

      This

      isn't

      really

      that

      big

      of

      a

      deal.

      I'm feeling better already, what about you?

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    2. Re:Just a few more minutes... by mattgreen · · Score: 4, Funny

      You, sir, win, by not only failing to bite at my semi-troll, but actually having a laugh yourself.

      Well-played.

    3. Re:Just a few more minutes... by Valiss · · Score: 5, Funny

      I didn't read the whole thing, but I'm with that guy.

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    4. Re:Just a few more minutes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The problem is the IMEI allows for SIM cloning, which is why you should *never* give it out.. it's unique to your SIM and used for billing etc.

      So iphone broadcasts it unencrypted via wi-fi.. and you're not bothered?
      The IMEI is unique to your phone, not your SIM, and isn't used for billing.
  3. Well... by abaddononion · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least it's Apple tracking you, not AT&T?

    Wait...

  4. iPod Touch by jolyonr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course, if I happened to be running the Stocks and Weather applications on my iPod Touch it wouldn't have an IMEI number to send, would it? Not that I am running those applications on my ipod, because that of course isn't allowed.

    Jolyon

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  5. more benign? by datapharmer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ever think maybe there was a more benign reason for this? Like to perhaps help in the retrieval of a stolen phone? Granted, it is probably not great for privacy, but if explicitly disclosed a savvy phone stealer could just disable or modify the apps. *This by no means excuses apple's privacy violations.

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  6. Get your facts straight... by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Funny

    "As I sit here applying a new layer of Reynolds tin foil to my international hat of conspiracy,"
    Reynolds doesn't make tin foil. They make aluminum foil! There is a big difference between Tin and Aluminum!

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  7. Re:Tracking what? by tgd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nothing, its a device serial number... not associated with your SIM and therefore not with your account. It proves its an iPhone to the webservice. Not much more.

    Bet I get modded down for saying it though :)

  8. Tracking? by nickovs · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's a substantial difference between receiving information and tracking people. Do the land-line phone companies "track" the calls you make? Sure, they use it to send you a bill, but most people don't seem to think it's a privacy violation. The author does not, as he claims, have "proof" that Apple track iPhone users, simply that they have the wherewithal to collate information about the services used by people if they could be bothered.

    The IMEI number is there to facilitate identifying mobile devices to the Public Land Mobile Network (PLMN) for the purpose of charging for services. Your IMEI goes out every time you connect to the EDGE network or any GPRS service anywhere in the world, and is (and always has been) logged by the phone company, irrespective of what brand of phone you have. It's always been possible for the phone company, or anyone with the right data sharing relationship with the phone company (e.g. Apple), or the police with a court order, or the CIA/FBI/KBG/MI6, to link this to the IP address assigned to the mobile device, and from there to server logs. People who worry about this shouldn't just be wearing tin-foil hats, they should be putting tin foil around their phones too.

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    1. Re:Tracking? by kybred · · Score: 5, Informative

      The IMEI number is there to facilitate identifying mobile devices to the Public Land Mobile Network (PLMN) for the purpose of charging for services.

      No, that would be the IMSI. The IMEI just identifies what equipment you are using.

  9. simple solution by eck011219 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just use your phone in a Faraday cage, and they can't track you at all.

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  10. Just change it... by javab0y · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Apple IMEI is TEA encrytped according to the phone's hardware ID and NOR ID. Both of these numbers can be found with a few tools found at iphone-elite.org. The IMEI lives at 0xA003FAB00 address. All you need to do is write out your seczone (0xA003FA000), TEA encrypt a nice Motorola RAZR IMEI number at offset 0xB00, and write it back to your NOR...and voila...your iPhone now looks like a Motorola RAZR.

    1. Re:Just change it... by dave420 · · Score: 4, Informative

      ... and go to jail! It's illegal to change your IMEI in the UK, fyi, so this isn't the best advice for anyone in the UK.

  11. Re:Tracking what? by DaggertipX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This just in - every time you make a call, AT&T knows what iPhone that call came from. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

    Oh wait... that's normal. Tinfoil hats are jumping at peoples heads these days like headcrabs in Half Life.