I care, and yet I'm not going to modify my behavior. Why? Because this is not a case of Apple doing something wrong. Palm's "syncing" was a hack. A hack even THEY said would probably break. Yet they delivered it anyway...
Apple isn't perfect, but I have yet to find a compelling reason to go elsewhere. Most of what they do is "less bad" than what the competition does.
I mean, what... should I go to linux? Going without the tools I need for my job goes further than "going without some bling". (And no, there are not tools that will work on Linux, trust me, I was a linux user for years before going to Apple. I left because my tool stack was woefully incomplete.)
Maybe go to Windows? Really? Do you want to play the Apple is more evil than MS card?
Sorry for the rant, but your condescending tone paints Apple users as mindless drones, which pisses me off. I am a developer. I've been around the block, this is just where I chose to land.
The "vision" he's speaking of would not prohibit men of religion from holding office, it would prohibit those men implementing their religion into our government.
Some day christianity will be taught next to greek mythology - and the great men who were a part of it will still be great for the things they did, not the beliefs they held.
It's not fully functional for a DVD drive to not be able to handle a "DVD" that doesn't conform to true DVD specs and standards? Are you kidding me? What the hell are you smoking? Not saying Apple should market these drives which aren't fully compliant, but the disc is also to blame. You do realize in a bad situation, sometimes more than one party can be at fault, right?
That depends, do you consider usability a feature? Or are you yet another slashdot user that thinks that a user interface is no more than "pretty graphics"?
Sorry... I'm a UI designer, and posts like this almost make me froth at the mouth.
Overall you made some very good points, but the last jab at "most adults are not sophisticated enough with computers to understand the scam either" raised a few hairs on the back of my neck. Being one of those adults, I understand quite well how social networking sites make money, no one gets a free lunch. I also understand that for some modern conveniences (which is what these types of services fall under), some privacy loss has to be accepted. The line for what is acceptable in that regard is drawn at different places for different people. Me, I don't mind if the movie industry knows what films I like. I also don't care if my favorite bands are able to learn which albums I enjoy. I want them to continue producing these things, and so we can benefit mutually by this information being known. I also like that my friends can see this information about me as well, maybe it will translate into a better birthday present. It could even lead to me meeting people with similar interests that I didn't know before. All data gathering by commercial entities is not the evil that the doomsaying neckbeards on the slashdot may think it is. Social networking sites are not necessarily a "scam". They are a service that can be quite useful. Users not understanding how they work, and getting upset about how they do what they do, have only themselves to blame for not doing their homework. Oh, and if you're wondering where I draw the line on these privacy issues, I have a very simple rule : If I give it voluntarily, it's ok. If they take it without my consent, we may have a fight on our hands.
Your lack of punctuation and capital letters make it almost impossible to even find a point in your near incoherent rambling.
In fact, the only point that I've received from your posts is that maybe we need to spend the money on education instead of a "war on drugs". I have a gut feeling that doing so would probably have the effect of making Slashdot more readable, and lower drug addiction rates in the general populace.
There have been a few roundabouts built recently in various areas around where I live in Utah... no one seems to know what to do when they get to them. It's a new enough concept around here that I suppose it will take a few years for people to adjust.
Oh yes, the joy of IE conditional comments... now I have to scatter my hacks across 2 or 3 ie specific stylesheets AND I even get the benefit of letting my CSS hacks spill into my other markup. This is not a proper solution... this is a worse hack than what we were doing before. Internet Explorer is trash. Always has been, and from the looks of how they are acting now - always will be.
What about all of us that have run the update without this happening? I suppose they just put a randomizer in the code to determine if it should bork your machine? Also the iPhone update was not some big conspiracy - people hacked their firmware using known security holes and then acted astonished when an update broke. Well no shit it broke, if you do a low level unsupported alteration on your software, you can't just expect everything to go rosy when you update it with the supported stuff. If you want to do hacks, that's fine, but don't expect the company to hold your hand when things go wrong, and don't cry foul because you can't get what they never claimed to support. This is not a conspiracy, it's a bug. Is there some big tinfoil sale going on that I'm not aware of? Because I keep seeing people donning new shiny hats for the smallest reasons...
Because as is the case with a lot of things about windows, they don't seem to realize when they have a good thing. They wrote all the good backend code for a great feature, halfassed the UI so that the general populace wouldn't get it or want it, and then hid the entire shebang in the most expensive version of their software. Then again, there I go, thinking that maybe desktop users are MS's customers, as opposed to say - dell and hp.
The backups are actually stored as plain files on your backup drive, so there really is nothing preventing you from dragging the file to your desktop or wherever, if you know what directory it's in. True, you wouldn't get to see the starfield flying behind the window while you did it, which is quite a tragedy...
Microsoft's implementation is useful, if you have the OS version that has it, and the savvy to use it. Apple's implementation is useful, if you have Mac OS.
I don't think he meant that last statement as flamebait. Although I see how it could be interpreted as such.
I read it more as : Running Windows on a Mac is supported under Leopard, meaning it's likelihood of bricking your machine is very small. Running Mac OS on a beige box PC isn't supported anywhere, meaning bricking your machine is much more likely. I can understand why someone would want to do the former, but it seems unnecessarily risky to do the latter - unless you're doing it for the "because I can" aspect, and not with the end goal being a stable running machine.
Spec for spec, Leopard will run on older and slower hardware than Vista. At some point backwards compatibility must drop - are you actually bothered by where the line was drawn, or do you just want to bitch because it's Apple?
YOU may not cope with things this way. A lot of people do cope with tragedy with humor. Just because you don't understand part of the spectrum of human emotion, don't feel bad, we all experience it differently. I don't feel the need to relate a personal experience on a public forum, but trust me, I understand where the urge to laugh away a serious situation comes from. It is normal, it is human, and like many things human - not everyone deals with it the same way.
I don't feel the need to flame you, but I would suppose that the reason people are saying "Let's wait and see" is because...well... until we do it's all useless handwaving and conjecture. Hopefully in a few months, we'll see a nice open API, and if there is digital signing it will be free and open as well. That would be ideal, in my mind. Will it happen? Only Apple knows that.
I also don't see how it even appears to you that you are correct. I don't see how it can appear that you are incorrect, either. Until we actually see the API released, no one has any clue what will happen.
My gut feeling tells me that if they wanted it to be locked down and under control, we would just never see an API, but gut feelings are not facts, and to state it as such leads to long impassioned conversations about nothing.
Interesting website, but I live in Utah and have yet to see a lotto ticket here. In fact, some people tend to go to either Nevada or Idaho to get their fix of anything from lotto tickets to blackjack. Wendover(in nevada) pretty much has it made just catering to sinning mormons, and bored Utahn non-mormons.
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I care, and yet I'm not going to modify my behavior. Why? Because this is not a case of Apple doing something wrong. Palm's "syncing" was a hack. A hack even THEY said would probably break. Yet they delivered it anyway...
Apple isn't perfect, but I have yet to find a compelling reason to go elsewhere. Most of what they do is "less bad" than what the competition does.
I mean, what... should I go to linux? Going without the tools I need for my job goes further than "going without some bling". (And no, there are not tools that will work on Linux, trust me, I was a linux user for years before going to Apple. I left because my tool stack was woefully incomplete.)
Maybe go to Windows? Really? Do you want to play the Apple is more evil than MS card?
Sorry for the rant, but your condescending tone paints Apple users as mindless drones, which pisses me off. I am a developer. I've been around the block, this is just where I chose to land.
You got frustrated and hit yourself in the head..?
I want to thank both posters for admitting this, as it is possibly the funniest mental image I've had in a while.
The "vision" he's speaking of would not prohibit men of religion from holding office, it would prohibit those men implementing their religion into our government.
Some day christianity will be taught next to greek mythology - and the great men who were a part of it will still be great for the things they did, not the beliefs they held.
It's not fully functional for a DVD drive to not be able to handle a "DVD" that doesn't conform to true DVD specs and standards? Are you kidding me? What the hell are you smoking?
Not saying Apple should market these drives which aren't fully compliant, but the disc is also to blame. You do realize in a bad situation, sometimes more than one party can be at fault, right?
That depends, do you consider usability a feature? Or are you yet another slashdot user that thinks that a user interface is no more than "pretty graphics"?
Sorry... I'm a UI designer, and posts like this almost make me froth at the mouth.
Overall you made some very good points, but the last jab at "most adults are not sophisticated enough with computers to understand the scam either" raised a few hairs on the back of my neck.
Being one of those adults, I understand quite well how social networking sites make money, no one gets a free lunch. I also understand that for some modern conveniences (which is what these types of services fall under), some privacy loss has to be accepted. The line for what is acceptable in that regard is drawn at different places for different people.
Me, I don't mind if the movie industry knows what films I like. I also don't care if my favorite bands are able to learn which albums I enjoy. I want them to continue producing these things, and so we can benefit mutually by this information being known. I also like that my friends can see this information about me as well, maybe it will translate into a better birthday present. It could even lead to me meeting people with similar interests that I didn't know before.
All data gathering by commercial entities is not the evil that the doomsaying neckbeards on the slashdot may think it is. Social networking sites are not necessarily a "scam". They are a service that can be quite useful. Users not understanding how they work, and getting upset about how they do what they do, have only themselves to blame for not doing their homework.
Oh, and if you're wondering where I draw the line on these privacy issues, I have a very simple rule : If I give it voluntarily, it's ok. If they take it without my consent, we may have a fight on our hands.
Your lack of punctuation and capital letters make it almost impossible to even find a point in your near incoherent rambling.
In fact, the only point that I've received from your posts is that maybe we need to spend the money on education instead of a "war on drugs". I have a gut feeling that doing so would probably have the effect of making Slashdot more readable, and lower drug addiction rates in the general populace.
All Apple laptops have "two button" capability. The 2nd button click is achieved by tapping the trackpad with both fingers, instead of one.
There have been a few roundabouts built recently in various areas around where I live in Utah... no one seems to know what to do when they get to them. It's a new enough concept around here that I suppose it will take a few years for people to adjust.
Oh yes, the joy of IE conditional comments... now I have to scatter my hacks across 2 or 3 ie specific stylesheets AND I even get the benefit of letting my CSS hacks spill into my other markup. This is not a proper solution... this is a worse hack than what we were doing before.
Internet Explorer is trash. Always has been, and from the looks of how they are acting now - always will be.
Glad to be of service... but I expect a little *ahem* compensation, for the idea.
What about all of us that have run the update without this happening? I suppose they just put a randomizer in the code to determine if it should bork your machine?
Also the iPhone update was not some big conspiracy - people hacked their firmware using known security holes and then acted astonished when an update broke. Well no shit it broke, if you do a low level unsupported alteration on your software, you can't just expect everything to go rosy when you update it with the supported stuff. If you want to do hacks, that's fine, but don't expect the company to hold your hand when things go wrong, and don't cry foul because you can't get what they never claimed to support.
This is not a conspiracy, it's a bug.
Is there some big tinfoil sale going on that I'm not aware of? Because I keep seeing people donning new shiny hats for the smallest reasons...
This just in - every time you make a call, AT&T knows what iPhone that call came from. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
Oh wait... that's normal. Tinfoil hats are jumping at peoples heads these days like headcrabs in Half Life.
Which would still be safer, as unlike IE's team - the webkit developers have gone to the trouble of even reading the standards docs.
(I kid, I kid. I don't blame Microsofts developers, I'm firmly convinced it's their 1863454 levels of management that bungle most of their projects.)
Because he was talking about fixing things, and sometimes the manufacturer of said things is important in such a conversation?
"In a public demonstration today, whitehouse leaders consumed children! Were these kids future terrorists? Find out at 11!"
Yeah... Fox News could spin that...
Because as is the case with a lot of things about windows, they don't seem to realize when they have a good thing. They wrote all the good backend code for a great feature, halfassed the UI so that the general populace wouldn't get it or want it, and then hid the entire shebang in the most expensive version of their software. Then again, there I go, thinking that maybe desktop users are MS's customers, as opposed to say - dell and hp.
The backups are actually stored as plain files on your backup drive, so there really is nothing preventing you from dragging the file to your desktop or wherever, if you know what directory it's in. True, you wouldn't get to see the starfield flying behind the window while you did it, which is quite a tragedy...
Microsoft's implementation is useful, if you have the OS version that has it, and the savvy to use it. Apple's implementation is useful, if you have Mac OS.
I don't think he meant that last statement as flamebait. Although I see how it could be interpreted as such.
I read it more as : Running Windows on a Mac is supported under Leopard, meaning it's likelihood of bricking your machine is very small. Running Mac OS on a beige box PC isn't supported anywhere, meaning bricking your machine is much more likely. I can understand why someone would want to do the former, but it seems unnecessarily risky to do the latter - unless you're doing it for the "because I can" aspect, and not with the end goal being a stable running machine.
Spec for spec, Leopard will run on older and slower hardware than Vista. At some point backwards compatibility must drop - are you actually bothered by where the line was drawn, or do you just want to bitch because it's Apple?
YOU may not cope with things this way. A lot of people do cope with tragedy with humor. Just because you don't understand part of the spectrum of human emotion, don't feel bad, we all experience it differently. I don't feel the need to relate a personal experience on a public forum, but trust me, I understand where the urge to laugh away a serious situation comes from. It is normal, it is human, and like many things human - not everyone deals with it the same way.
I don't feel the need to flame you, but I would suppose that the reason people are saying "Let's wait and see" is because...well... until we do it's all useless handwaving and conjecture. Hopefully in a few months, we'll see a nice open API, and if there is digital signing it will be free and open as well. That would be ideal, in my mind. Will it happen? Only Apple knows that. I also don't see how it even appears to you that you are correct. I don't see how it can appear that you are incorrect, either. Until we actually see the API released, no one has any clue what will happen. My gut feeling tells me that if they wanted it to be locked down and under control, we would just never see an API, but gut feelings are not facts, and to state it as such leads to long impassioned conversations about nothing.
I don't think so, I think they just saw a huge drop in the tinfoil hat marketplace, and saw where they could really boost the economy.
Examples...? (honestly curious.)
Interesting website, but I live in Utah and have yet to see a lotto ticket here. In fact, some people tend to go to either Nevada or Idaho to get their fix of anything from lotto tickets to blackjack. Wendover(in nevada) pretty much has it made just catering to sinning mormons, and bored Utahn non-mormons.