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Tunguska Blast Was a Small Asteroid

malachiorion writes "The Tunguska event, an explosion on June 30, 1908, cleared an 800-sq.-mi. swath of Siberian forest. Was it a UFO crash? An alien weapons test? Now, Sandia National Laboratories has released its own explanation for the Tunguska event. Using supercomputers to create a 3D simulation of the explosion, the Department of Energy-funded nuke lab has determined that Tunguska was, indeed, the explosion of a relatively small asteroid. The simulation videos are well worth checking out — they show a fireball slamming into the earth from the asteroid's air burst. The researchers caution that we should be keeping watch for many more small, potentially earth-impacting asteroids than we are currently tracking."

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  1. The Gist by DrLudicrous · · Score: 4, Informative

    It seems that while the asteroid itself did not cause as much damage as previously believed (3-5 megatons vs 10-20), the asteroid was most likely much smaller than had been estimated. Too bad the article doesn't give some numbers about the size. Pretty scary thinking about one of these things hitting on top of or near a major population center.

    1. Re:The Gist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Pretty scary thinking about one of these things hitting on top of or near a major population center. Yes, every asteroid on television will undoubtedly hit over New York or Los Angeles. There must be some exceptionally high gravitational field at those locations.

      Perhaps these dramatic presentations aren't really that helpful. It could be that volcanoes won't erupt under Los Angeles, ice hurricanes won't hit New York, and 10.0 earthquakes won't toss Los Angeles into the Pacific Ocean (and why isn't Chicago or London ever destroyed?). It might be helpful for you to calculate the area that the Tunguska Blast caused devastation, divide by the surface area of the earth, multiply it by the surface area of our major population centers, and then multiply it by the probability of this type of event occurring in the next 50 years. But this is boring and lacks the 'scary thinking' and drama, right?
    2. Re:The Gist by RuBLed · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, every asteroid on television will undoubtedly hit over New York or Los Angeles. There must be some exceptionally high gravitational field at those locations.

      I'm not sure about that, most of the asteroid I had seen on television are hitting Kansas, particularly this small village...
    3. Re:The Gist by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, every asteroid on television will undoubtedly hit over New York or Los Angeles. There must be some exceptionally high gravitational field at those locations.

      No, they just suck.

  2. I've often wondered by Cally · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...how the populations (including the military) in some of the more... nervous areas of the globe would react to a suddden blinding light in the sky followed by an enormous blast wave.

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    1. Re:I've often wondered by teebob21 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've often wondered...how the populations (including the military) in some of the more... nervous areas of the globe would react to a suddden blinding light in the sky followed by an enormous blast wave.

      Badly.

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  3. Re:Doh! by bennomatic · · Score: 5, Funny
    Aliens!

    In Soviet Russia, the forest flattens the asteroids!

    I welcome our new asteroid overlords.

    Imagine a beowulf cluster of those!

    1. Flatten forest
    2. ???
    3. Profit!
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  4. Oh come off it! by Psychotria · · Score: 4, Funny

    Everybody knows it was Santa crash landing

  5. Re:Hmm.. by FredDC · · Score: 5, Informative

    This one they didn't notice until after it nearly missed earth.

    So to answer your question: Yes, it's very possible!

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  6. Re:Hmm.. by teebob21 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Would there be any chance of a small asteroid (one that could cause some problems) currently heading for earth not be detected yet by scientists? Yes. There is a very real chance that a chunk of rock the size of a basketball court could come at us tomorrow. A very very small, but very real chance. Asteroids that come from the sunward side of Earth's orbit are harder to detect because they are obscured by the Sun. One could come from that direction and astronomers may never see it. Most of the meteors that streak across the night sky are space stones no bigger than your hand, and usually about the size of a pea or smaller. Larger ones come down, but very infrequently. It is impossible for astronomers to chart, track or project the trajectories of the billions of space rocks left over from the formation of the Solar System.

    Imagine a world where a small asteroid fragment or comet had struck Russia 60 years after Tunguska - during the depths of the Cold War. It would be a very different world today indeed.
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  7. Currently Reading. by Daemonax · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm currently reading Arthur C. Clarke's 'Rendezvous with Rama', which opens with the lines "Soon or later, it was bound to happen. On June 30, 1908, Moscow escaped destruction by three hours and four thousand kilometers -- a margin invisibly small by the standards of the universe."

    In the book, we humans then go on to set up systems to track asteroids that may be a danger to earth, and set up defense systems against them. I know that we currently track some, but how well funded are these organizations that do this? This is really something that is quite important, as it is almost certainly just a matter of when, not if. Do we have systems in place that will allow us to destroy or divert any large asteroids that are determined to be on a path to impact with earth?

    1. Re:Currently Reading. by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do we have systems in place that will allow us to destroy or divert any large asteroids that are determined to be on a path to impact with earth?

      Only one. Be very afraid.

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  8. Gitmo next for kdawson by mach1980 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm not a US resident but isn't slashdotting/DoS-attacking a federally owned site a criminal/terror offence in the US?

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  9. Nah, would be no biggie. by foreverdisillusioned · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A 3-5 megaton blast over the Atlantic wouldn't cause so much as a rough surf advisory in Key West. In comparison, the USA built a 45 megaton bomb and the USSR's fission-fusion-fission Tsar Bomba would have been 100+ megatons had they not taken the sensible precaution of replacing the final fission stage with inert lead. If a mere 5 megaton warhead could cause such worldwide devastation, I'm pretty sure someone would have mentioned it before now (and trust me, I've read just about every far-fetched doomsday scenario imaginable.)

    As for the possibility of similar-sized asteroid impacting the ocean instead of exploding above it--well, the article only says that the asteroid is now thought to be "only a fraction as large as previously published estimates". That doesn't tell us anything. The Tunguska asteroid may or may not have been large enough to trigger a tsunami had it impacted an ocean instead of exploding over land. I'm going to assume that an impact will usually be less energetic (though perhaps more concentrated) than a heat-induced explosion, in which case no, the Tunguska asteroid never posed a significant threat to the world as a whole.

    That said, the Tunguska explosion is still fascinating as hell. I know that there's a lot of very strong evidence pointing to the asteroid theory, but it's still fun to toy with conspiracy theories. The atomic bomb was first being conceived of, Tesla's Wardenclyffe Tower was being tested (by some accounts, it was brought online the day before the explosion)... it's all absolute rubbish, to be frank, but it's very entertaining rubbish.

  10. Re:Doh! by gbobeck · · Score: 4, Funny

    a farting contest gone wrong.. terribly wrong...

    Yeah, Chuck Norris showed up...
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  11. Re:Doh! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Funny

    "What else would it have been?"

    The theory I've heard a few times was that it was anti-matter. Doctor Raymond Stanz, however, postulated that it may have been the result of a dimensional crossover. This theory has not been widely accepted, though, because no P.K. readings have been captured to support this claim.

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  12. Mirror by AftanGustur · · Score: 4, Informative



    The videos total over 56 Megabytes, so I have put up a mirror Here

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  13. Re:Unlikely to be an asteroid by Pentagram · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is worth reading the article. An asteroid impact is sexy, but the alternative explanation fits with the data much better. And how does a natural gas explosion leave the nickel and iridium deposits that were found at the site? An asteroid impact is not the accepted theory because it is "sexier", but because of Occam's razor.

  14. Re:Unlikely to be an asteroid by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Informative

    You're wrong.

    One of many references if you'd bothered to look: http://www.physorg.com/news819.html

    Pertinent section:

    Expeditions sent to the area in the 1950s and 1960s did find microscopic glass spheres in siftings of the soil. Chemical analysis showed that the spheres contained high proportions of nickel and iridium, which are found in high concentrations in meteorites, and indicated that they were of extraterrestrial origin.

    I've seen the 'natural gas' theory before. It's so contrived that it's almost like science-comedy.