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Microsoft Will Stream Ads To Grocery Carts

dptalia writes "Later this year, at ShopRite supermarkets in the eastern US, Microsoft will be rolling out computerized shopping carts. These carts will allow people with a ShopRite card to enter their shopping list on the ShopRite site from home, and then pull up the list on their grocery cart when they swipe their card. The new carts will also display advertisements depending on where in the supermarket the cart is, using RFID technology to help locate it."

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  1. obligatory by sltd · · Score: 2, Funny

    yeah, but will it run linux?

    1. Re:obligatory by Divebus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Whole new application for the term "Crash Cart".

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    2. Re:obligatory by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 4, Funny
      You don't want it to run Linux.
      Every BSOD rewards the shopper with free cart of groceries.
      Shop early, shop often!
      It's the new version of Supermarket Sweep

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    3. Re:obligatory by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2, Funny
      where are the BSOD jokes?

      This is the one time a BSOD would be welcome, so it'll probably be the most stable MS app ever...

      But seriously, what is it with Microsoft and this sort of repellent in-your-face crapware? Do they WANT to be seen as evil?

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    4. Re:obligatory by FoolsGold · · Score: 2, Insightful

      what is it with Microsoft and this sort of repellent in-your-face crapware? Do they WANT to be seen as evil?

      Microsoft know they have a bad reputation. They'd have to totally reinvent themselves and their policies to reverse the trend, which is too much work.

      I suppose their position is: "well, we're too far gone to repair our image, so we've got nothing to lose. MONEY MONEY MONEY!"
    5. Re:obligatory by rtb61 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      This application of technology will be really interesting. Will they allow the customer to wheel those expensive trolleys out to the carpark where kids can get a hold of them. When they lend you a trolley for your use how will they define the extent of your use and your contractual obligations with regards to the use of the trolley and it's return.

      If your are clumsy placing items in the cart and break the screen have your bought the shopping trolley. On top of all that, with all those wireless trolleys in the supermarket, it will be radiating a lot of rf energy into the customers and more disturbingly into young children and where will the locate the antenna with regards to child seats in some shopping trolleys.

      Of course you also have the hassle of building battery charging facilities into the shopping cart storage facility which now has to be completely under cover and temperature controlled to prevent condensation issues at the charging point. Yeah, it all sounds like a great idea in some marketdroids head, and M$ as always will make all sorts of vacuous promises, but when it comes to the actual implementation that's when all the real problems start.

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    6. Re:obligatory by monomania · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm waiting to see the one rolling down the street pushed by a homeless person. "Where do you want to go today?"

    7. Re:obligatory by Smidge204 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey look, 20% off on "Fatal Exceptions" and a 2-for-1 deal on "General Protection Faults" with cupon!

      =Smidge=

    8. Re:obligatory by Salsaman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just imagine...a Beowulf cluster of shopping carts !

  2. Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! by seanadams.com · · Score: 4, Funny

    I went to a Shell gas station a few months ago and they had 19" flat screen TVs above every pump, playing the news and running commercials at an ear piercing level. It was unbelievable. I left, and figured that was an idea that couldn't possibly last long. But lo and behold, just a few days ago I drove by and the damn place was PACKED with customers listening to that shit, half of them staring blankly at the telescreens because they can't stand for three damn minutes to be alone with their thoughts while their tank fills.

    I thought the same thing about savings cards. YOU SAVED $18.43 MISTER LIVESTOCK! Surely people can not be this dumb, and this idea will fail... but no.

    The vast majority of the population just eats this shit up. They actually read their junk mail. If it weren't for them you wouldn't get junk mail, because it wouldn't be worth mailing in the first place.

    It is so sad. I do my part by avoiding these establishments, but I'm afraid it's not doing a damn bit of good.

    1. Re:Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Couldn't have said it better myself.

      Amazes me, the shit that people will support. Give them a credit card and they'll buy their own golden cage and cheerfully lock themselves inside.

      ObCaptcha: "Stress".

    2. Re:Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Informative

      I went to a Shell gas station a few months ago and they had 19" flat screen TVs above every pump, playing the news and running commercials at an ear piercing level. It was unbelievable. I left, and figured that was an idea that couldn't possibly last long. But lo and behold, just a few days ago I drove by and the damn place was PACKED with customers listening to that shit, half of them staring blankly at the telescreens because they can't stand for three damn minutes to be alone with their thoughts while their tank fills.

      As a subscriber you are probably not aware that /. has started inserting banner ads after some posts.

    3. Re:Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! by doombringerltx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The gas station on my way home from school has something similar. It blares audio only ads, but it has a mute button on it so I have no problem. Hitting the mute button has been as much of my gas pumping routine as hitting "no" for that car wash they are always trying to pimp.

    4. Re:Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      So that's what those are! I kept seeing all these huge white spaces and I thought that slashdot or one of my extensions had a bug. ** Hugs adblock plus

    5. Re:Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! by Dirtside · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I do my part by avoiding these establishments, but I'm afraid it's not doing a damn bit of good.
      The "damn bit of good" that you can do (and is easy) is to write pen-and-paper letters to those establishments explaining why you will not shop there. One person's letter usually won't thwart a multi-million dollar campaign, but it could be the straw that breaks the camel's back; and simply avoiding the establishment doesn't tell them why. That's the critical thing; avoiding a store for reasons you haven't explained to them doesn't help them change.

      The best thing to do in such a letter is to be polite, precise, and calm. Insulting them or railing at them will just make them throw your letter away. Here's a sample letter, feel free to mangle it to your needs:

      "I'm a long-time customer at Shell, and I almost always get my gas there (at your Main Street location in Los Santos) because it's so convenient for my drive to work. But ever since those flat-panel TVs have been installed out in the pump area, it's nearly unbearable to pump gas. Not only is the audio loud and distracting, but the TVs seem to cause people to take significantly longer to pump their gas (they just stand around staring at the TVs), meaning I end up waiting to get gas. As a result I've decided to start getting my gas at [insert local independent gas station here]. Maybe if the TVs are removed I might come back to Shell, but for now it's just not worth it.

      Sincerely, Soandso"

      And be sure you do this on PAPER, signed in pen, and mailed to their corporate headquarters. From a customer-service standpoint, this is the kind of letter companies tend to love, because 1) it's not insulting, rude, demanding, or insane; and 2) it provides actual useful feedback from actual customers. As a bonus, sometimes companies will send you free stuff, or gift certificates, or coupons, or whatever, usually worth more than the letter cost you to write and mail ;)
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    6. Re:Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      How the hell is that funny? It's depressing, that's what it is. The only consolation is that the shopping carts will probably be very hackable. I long to see the face of the attentive customer when he learns about goatse.

    7. Re:Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! by ruiner13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The only part of your rant that was missing was the part where you yell at the kids to get off your damn lawn.

      I don't fully understand what your problem is. Savings cards? Some people like saving money, and aren't so fucking sad and lazy that they can actually _gasp_ walk to the garbage/recycling can and just throw it away? Using a card you can save hundreds of dollars a year! What fools!

      I think part of this is a good idea. Being able to have your shopping list instantly seems like a good idea to me. They could even take it a step further and actually guide you to what you are looking for, instead of having to blindly hunt the aisles. For some of us, time is money, and anything that saves it is priceless. Anything that literally saves money is even better. Maybe you wipe your bitter ass with $100 bills, but some of us don't, and are willing to put up with an easily forgettable ad as compensation. Did an advertiser kill your dog and rape your mom or something?

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    8. Re:Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! by sporkme · · Score: 5, Informative

      I would also add (to your letter) that you used to get your morning coffee, pack of cigarettes and package of decongestant there every morning as well. Profit margins on gasoline are actually surprisingly low; retail locations rely on those ridiculously marked-up impulse buys, mostly made by the morning/evening commuter. Prepay (pay inside, then pump) at gas stations was not instituted because a few jerk-offs gas-n-go. They want those cash customers in the selling environment! Either skip to the last paragraph for the point, or allow me to elaborate:

      Mega chain retailers, gas stations included, rely on conformity to "plan-o-grams," actual required product placement blueprints, at which the minimum-wage dregs while away the hours in some attempt to conform. The aspirin goes near the coffee and next to the gum, because the hangover crowd will be there in the morning. Useless crap lead-containing toys are placed at knee-level next to the lines for the registers, because the little scamps will invariably demand the purchase of such items, just when impatient mommy has her wallet out--that is if the yuppie parents of said scamps have not left them in a still-running, unlocked car in an unattended parking lot. The tire gauges are near the motor oil, but just around the bend from the tampons; men buy them (both even), but single moms concerned about highway safety do as well. The expensive cigarette lighters are on the counter for easy theft, but the equally capable ones are behind it, hidden, where they are only stolen by employees. You practically trip over Red Bull and Coca-Cola on the way in, but god help you to find the generic cola. Just scratching the surface here, but you get my drift.

      These plan-o-grams change frequently, as trends are explored and exploited. The monitors are another campaign in the impulse buy campaign, and I have only addressed gas (petrol) stations. I have multiple experiences as a retail manager, and as a gas station employee, and I am somewhat fascinated by these ploys.

      Moving to other sellers, specifically electronics.... Next Christmas, or at any competitive sale time, closely examine the "loss leaders" employed by retailers. The idea is this: sell item X at near or below cost, knowing that it will trigger increased revenue from accessory items Y and Z, either instantly via the marketing miracle of "batteries not included" or continuously via "games sold separately." Barbies need outfits. Xboxen require games. My favorite, from my Radio $hack days, was to sell the remote control car at my cost exactly (which I revealed), so that I could easily demand that the poor sucker dad buy two rechargeable batteries (gotta have a spare, especially at well over 90% margin) and all the 9-volts he could carry (insane low cost, insane standard market price fixing), all the while coming out smelling like a rose. This is standard procedure, so you know the more devious schemes are way more insulting, such as video screens on your shopping cart.

      As for grocery stores, we have always realized that kid cereal is on the bottom, bargain cereal is at waist level and receives limited shelf real estate, and that premium cereal is highlighted with "sale pricing" (also known as standard mark-up) and is at shoulder level, as far as the eye can see. Frankly, grocers endure painfully low profit margin percentages, but thankfully for them, humans cannot live without food (particularly for rural markets, the choke price for milk and bread can get pretty ridiculous). Closely examine the items in the advertisement from week to week. When ground beef is on sale, regularly priced hamburger buns are generously placed right in the meat market, with a slammin' pyramid of regularly priced ketchup and pickle slices opposing; lettuce and onions are not on special either. The same gas station methods are employed at the registers, and it is no accident that toys and school supplies come right after cereal, aisle-wise. You'll also notice t

    9. Re:Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! by daem0n1x · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have always hated how they fill bars with huge TV screens, sometimes several of them, showing MTV or VH1 or something. People go to bars to have a drink, chat and dance. Not to watch TV. But when I point this out, people say I'm crazy. I quit complaining because some people started looking at me as if I'm weird. What's the point of going out for a good time with other people and having to put up with distracting TV screens all around? The same in restaurants and cafés, just turn that shit off!

    10. Re:Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Gasoline and groceries are commodities that you can buy wherever you like, with or without the BS. The point is that people _choose_ to buy them from places like I mentioned because they PREFER to be bombarded with advertising and promos. I just usually say I left my shopper's card at home. The cashier simply scans a "store card" and I get the benefits. However, I do lose the ten cents per gallon gas discount I get for every $50 spent. It's not hard for a family of four to generate $500 of grocery spending in a short time and get $1 off per gallon of gas on their next fill-up.

      As for advertising, the grocery story sends all sorts of stuff to "resident" in this area, anyway. The only difference would be I get my name on the To: address.
  3. Fucking spammers by taustin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If these fucking things make the slightest bit of noise, I swear I'm going to light it on fire, and start growing my own food.

    1. Re:Fucking spammers by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

      If these fucking things make the slightest bit of noise

      With the volume up: Thank you for buying ansell condoms. People who purchased this product also bought...

    2. Re:Fucking spammers by nacturation · · Score: 4, Funny

      With the volume up: Thank you for buying ansell condoms. People who purchased this product also bought... ... diapers, usually after about a nine month delay.

      Speaking of that, when I initially glanced at the title I thought it read "Microsoft Will Stream Ass to Grocery Carts". I don't know whether to be relieved or disappointed.
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    3. Re:Fucking spammers by RetroGeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      People who purchased this product also bought..


      Sure laugh, but Walmart (who probably has the biggest database in the world) found that men who bought diapers also sometimes bought beer (on their way home from the office). So they moved the beer section next to the diapers. Sales of beer skyrocketed.

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  4. oh great by ILuvRamen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So now when I put stump remover and sugar together on my list I gaurantee I'm gonna be put on some sort of terrorist list (cuz you can make a bomb out of that). Not to mention any other privacy concerns. I don't even want someone to so much as see my list before I get there. They'd have to password it. Then people forget their passwords. Or someone rigs it to record your password. Then you can't log in to your cart cuz the system is down and you have no idea what you were supposed to buy. I can only imagine how many rings of hell it would be to have Walmart employees support that high tech of a system.

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    1. Re:oh great by Acromion · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is this really any worse than shopping online? I sometimes get grocery items delivered to my home. I'm sure their security is no better than that of the supermarket.

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  5. If you don't like the ads... by russotto · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...just pick the shopping card displaying the Blue Screen of Death.

    Actually, given how shopping carts are treated (banged around the parking lot, slammed around by the cart-pushers, left in the rain, cleaned with a high-pressure hose), I suspect quite a few of these will be broken shortly after introduction.

  6. what a great time to be homeless by infonography · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now you can have a shopping cart thats wired for the internet.

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  7. It could be good! by cbreaker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I for one welcome the opportunity to rip one off of a shopping cart in the parking lot and seeing what's inside!

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  8. What is a grocery store? by Seumas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's 2008 and people are still going to the store? Do people have so much disposable time and so little else they could do with many extra hours a month that they still go shopping in an actual store? Do they look forward so much to driving around, dealing with parking, shopping carts, lines, people, their bratty kids, aisles, noise and lugging things around?

    It's 2008 and the big innovation is a shopping car that spams you while it directs you around a bunch of aisles essentially the same way we did in 1945, but with more targeted marking and shelving placement than ever? Really? That's the best we can do?

    Maybe it's a generational thing, but I have not shopped in a grocery store in almost my entire adult life. The last time I went into a grocery store was 1999. I get my groceries delivered to me with the click of a button. I decide what time I want my groceries, they come to my door and carry them into my kitchen. I spend almost zero time involved in groceries. While this is probably only available in big cities like the bay area, Portland, Denver and others, this is something that should be both available *and* used everywhere by almost every one. You don't still go out and butcher or milk your own cow. You don't go out and pick your own oranges. So why wheel a cart around like some sort of trained monkey in a store full of fluorescent lights and elevator music and snotty whining kids grabbing things off the shelves and throwing tantrums in the middle of the aisle?

    Hell, I haven't bought shoes in person or tools or entertainment in person in years, either. Except for rare instances involving things like my car that can't be otherwise addressed, I have reduced actual physical shopping to something I no longer "have" to do. For years, the only shopping I've had to do is that which I *choose* to do. Things that make it a luxury. Places and things that I can enjoy going to and shopping for (such as home entertainment stuff). I farm the crap shopping off to the wonderful services that Albertsons, Safeway, Kingsoopers and others now offer (and before that, Webvan, etc).

    So that there's a new little attachment to a shopping car that more efficiently delivers shit to your eyeballs while supposedly easing up your shopping situation -- IN 2008 -- is the least impressive thing I've heard this year.

    1. Re:What is a grocery store? by Gyga · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So it is more evolved to be lazy? I prefer to get up walk around the store talk with my friends that work there. Guess in a smaller town you get to meet people outside of your sphere of laze.

      I'm sure one good wack into the side of an asile will disable these damn things. Or dropping a 50lb bag of chicken feed on it will do.

      "butcher or milk your own cow" I get eggs from my chickens, does that count?

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    2. Re:What is a grocery store? by springbox · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Shoes and clothes are something that almost always require me to go to a store. Not only is the experience of browsing fun but it's hard to judge how things will fit without physically trying them on. Online shopping is not going to replace things like this for the most part.

    3. Re:What is a grocery store? by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Some people like to check the quality and pick produce themselves. I prefer shopping online too, but lets be honest, I don't know what I'm ordering exactly until it arrives, it could just as easily be poor quality as good.

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    4. Re:What is a grocery store? by WallyDrinkBeer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dude, first of all the dot com bubble ended a few years ago - It has generally be accepted that things like mail order pet shops are just not viable. Don't you want to try on shoes first - damn sizes are always screwy and feet are different widths?

      Secondly, you sit in you house waiting for deliveries? - how quaint - just like the milk vendor used to in the old days. Just go to the shop and pick stuff up, why is that so hard. With the time you save not sitting around for the delivery illegal alien, you could be out saving the forests or killing wild animals for sport.

      Marketing and shopping is about the experience and atmosphere, buying stuff online is for cave dwellers stuck in a bygone era - the 90's.

    5. Re:What is a grocery store? by dlevitan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Maybe it's a generational thing, but I have not shopped in a grocery store in almost my entire adult life. The last time I went into a grocery store was 1999. I get my groceries delivered to me with the click of a button. I decide what time I want my groceries, they come to my door and carry them into my kitchen. I spend almost zero time involved in groceries. While this is probably only available in big cities like the bay area, Portland, Denver and others, this is something that should be both available *and* used everywhere by almost every one. You don't still go out and butcher or milk your own cow. You don't go out and pick your own oranges. So why wheel a cart around like some sort of trained monkey in a store full of fluorescent lights and elevator music and snotty whining kids grabbing things off the shelves and throwing tantrums in the middle of the aisle? Then don't shop in traditional supermarkets. Yeah, I agree, they're annoying. But I very rarely go there. I do almost all of my shopping at Trader Joe's, the farmers markets, Whole Foods, and Costco. I doubt you can get stuff delivered from any those stores. Why do I actually take the time to shop at these places? First, quality products. I cook a lot, and I like cooking quality food. For that, you need fresh, quality ingredients. I'm not going to trust someone else to pick out the fruits, vegetables, and meats I use - I doubt they really care about the quality of the food. Second, cheap prices (for the most part). Trader Joe's has amazing products that cost very little. Costco forces you to buy in bulk, but they have very good products that are very cheap compared to most stores. In fact, oftentimes people say that some of the best foods can be found there. The farmers markets in my area (Los Angeles) have amazing deals on many fresh fruits and vegetables. I can buy 25 pounds of oranges for $10. Instead of drinking orange juice from the store, I now make fresh squeezed orange juice every day for almost the same price (just slightly higher than the sale prices of good bottled orange juice). And Whole Foods has a lot of really nice stuff that I can get at any of the other places and, while expensive, is of very high quality.

      In short, if you care about what you eat, you need to find it yourself. You might not need to butcher the cow or catch the fish, but you need to be able to look at what's for same and decide if its good quality or not. I doubt what you get is any good.

    6. Re:What is a grocery store? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm a guy.

      Well, we guessed that.

      Do you have a wife or a girlfriend? Ask her about women's clothing sizes, especially with everything being made in 97 different countries. One week's "Small" is next week's "Extra Large" and vice versa. Every women I've known gave up on mail order because they were retuning 4 out of 5 items, and it was steadily getting worse. For some reason men's clothes don't suffer the same variance. Only $INSERT_FAVORITE_DEITY knows why.

      The problem is that you seem incapable civilly stating that you shop for groceries online and that it's the best thing since sliced bread. You seem incapable of not adding insults against anyone who still likes to shop at the store for a host of valid reasons. That might be why some people suggest you might wont more social interaction because, quite frankly, you really fucking suck at it.

    7. Re:What is a grocery store? by AlphaOne · · Score: 2

      The problem is that you seem incapable civilly stating that you shop for groceries online and that it's the best thing since sliced bread. You seem incapable of not adding insults against anyone who still likes to shop at the store for a host of valid reasons. That might be why some people suggest you might wont more social interaction because, quite frankly, you really fucking suck at it.

      Man, oh man, do I wish I had mod points. *high five*

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  9. A cookie fo your cookies by cygtoad · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmm... Just what I always wanted.
    So the shopping cart will beg me to buy something as I go near it.
    My daughter already does this for me. I am good.

  10. But the real question is... by snl2587 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...Will they be more streamlined for my shopping-cart races?

  11. A typical Ad by Alexx+K · · Score: 3, Funny

    It looks like you want to buy a loaf of bread. Would you like some help?

    Want to get the best out of your bread? Visit the Windows Wheat Live web site today!

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  12. A better idea by springbox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Enter list online and have the cart calculate the shortest distance to each item in the store based on its current location

    1. Re:A better idea by nguy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      More likely, it will compute the longest path it can get away with without pissing you off so much that you just leave, making sure to pass by all the items you're most likely to buy.

  13. Microsoft Shoppin Cart by tristian_was_here · · Score: 2, Funny

    "right I want a... WTF!!! my shopping cart has shutdown to prevent damage to my food?"

  14. As always, Douglas Adams had the foresight... by GrahamCox · · Score: 2, Funny

    Modern elevators are strange and complex entities. The ancient electric winch and "maximum-capacity-eight-persons" jobs bear as much relation to a Sirius Cybernetics Corporation Happy Vertical People Transporter as a packet of mixed nuts does to the entire west wing of the Sirian State Mental Hospital.

    This is because they operate on the curious principle of "defocused temporal perception". In other words they have the capacity to see dimly into the immediate future, which enables the elevator to be on the right floor to pick you up even before you knew you wanted it, thus eliminating all the tedious chatting, relaxing, and making friends that people were previously forced to do whist waiting for elevators.

    About this time someone rediscovered an old patent for an ancient device called a "staircase" that let people simply walk from one floor to another, thus dispensing with the whole tedious need for elevators at all...


    Quick, someone patent the paper and pencil shopping list!

  15. Re:My aren't you blowing high and mighty by ZorbaTHut · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And it works, you fall for it too. How else do you know it was a SHELL gas station? If you were imune to it and not a sheep you would just tank at any gas station. (but without any advertising whatsoever, how would you know it is a gas station?) You obviously saw Shells adversting, yes even the sign that says Shell is part of advertising.

    I did the same thing that the GP did, and the only reason I know it was a Shell station is because I explicitly checked once the ads started so I'd know which gas stations to avoid in the future. I wouldn't have known it was Shell if they hadn't made me care.

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  16. Goody by Robber+Baron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh goody. Now I finally have a real good use for all those hard drive magnets I've been collecting.

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  17. THANK GOODNESS! by glindsey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Finally! I was getting sick of only experiencing advertisements on television, radio, newspapers, magazines, websites, video games, Tivo menus, Xbox 360 menus, Comcast guide screens, airplane TVs, billboards, T-shirts, sweatshirts, hoodies, movies, movie theater lobbies, stock cars, buses, bus stops, park benches, taxicabs, license plate holders, restrooms, posters on airport and train station walls, checkout lanes, grocery carts*, and shaved into the back of the occasional head.

    Thank GOD somebody has found a way to exploit this obvious adver-hole in our lives. But this is only the beginning, dammit. I want my dishwasher to leave streaks on my dishes in the shape of a Whirlpool logo. Red traffic lights should be replaced with reminders that Goodyear tires would help you stop more quickly, and green with reminders to buy Amoco Ultimate gasoline. Each light bulb should cast the logo and name of a popular pharmaceutical against the floor, ceiling, or wall (talk to your doctor about it!). When I'm calling somebody on the phone, I shouldn't have to listen to some boring "ring" sound -- not when I could hear about the virtues of Domino's pizza! We must not rest until every single person is being sold something every second of every minute of every hour of every day from every square meter of the globe. Together, we can do it.

    This message brought to you by The Association of National Advertisers. Raping your eyes and ears, over and over, and you can't stop it.(tm)

    * Static photos already there -- obviously insufficient

    1. Re:THANK GOODNESS! by gaderael · · Score: 2, Funny

      Did anybody else read this with George Carlin's voice in mind?

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  18. Good Grief! by deep_creek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought Self-Checkout lanes were ridiculous... now this. The grocery store I mostly shop at has I think six Self-Checkout lanes. Very few folks use them. The "traffic monitors" are always trying to urge folks to go there, as there is no line. I might try one if I got a discount for it (passing the savings along to customers for not having staff, etc...), but what is the point as there is no discount or incentive? I'm a bit old fashioned I guess I want to be taken care of as a customer and fully use the services the store is providing for my convenience, not theirs!

  19. Grocery list by 4D6963 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Customers with a ShopRite loyalty card will be able to log into a Web site at home and type in their grocery lists; when they get to the store and swipe their card on the MediaCart console, the list will appear.

    ..will appear on the screen for all to see, yay! I can't wait until people take peeks at my grocery list on my hi-tech shopping cart.

    -Strawberries.. Check
    -Whipped cream.. Check
    -Cucumbers.. Check
    -Whiskey.. Check
    -Vaseline.. Check
    -Bullwhip.. Check
    -Laxative suppositories.. Check
    -Making people who read my grocery list look embarrassed.. Check

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  20. I love those shell tv's by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 2, Insightful

    seriously. There well done. Its not all ads, there are news and wheather shorts as well. I listen to sirus radio all day and surf the web w/adblocker, so they are jsut aobut the only ads I see. And also the only local tv I see either. I have all of the day to spend with my thoughts I don't mind being entertained briefly.

    Now if you want to see advertising at its most crass, and annoylingly blatant I suggust you look at miejers ( never know how to spell that, what the heck is a J doing in the middle of the word. Seriously.) Tv's showing ads for their products at checkup. You have to wait in line because they don't hire enough people and just stand there while they tell you how to combine three different crappy processed to hell kraft foods into some stomach turningly insane caserol that your get your kids into Harvard, and zombify your husband.

    Rant ...almost complete

    SHell is good, mjeijers bad!!

    Rant complete

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  21. Who? by BradleyUffner · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It sounds to me like ShopRite is the one doing the streaming, not microsoft.

  22. Bottom falls out of pencil sharpener market. by Captain+Arr+Morgan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So long I have waited to check 'grocery list' off my 'things I need a pencil for' list.

  23. Theft by lullabud · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These shopping carts are just asking to be stolen. It's widespread enough as it is that simple shopping carts go missing. Carts with gadgets? Hell yeah. Just wait until somebody finds a way to make them into a digital picture frame, then they'll all be missing.

  24. Oh, gawd... by beadfulthings · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Have you not had adverts blaring at you while taking care of business in a public washroom? Or is that form of torture reserved for the female of the species, since we're confined to stalls while we're in there? Of course, the possibilities for wide-screen above a row of urinals do come to mind, so they'll get you eventually if they haven't already. First time I saw this was in the ladies' at a beachfront bar--actually a pretty respectable establishment--where they blared commercials for waterfront properties. That was a couple of years ago. Most recent sighting was a couple of months ago at a favorite Chinese restaurant in a city 200 miles inland. It gives new meaning to the term "captive audience."

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    1. Re:Oh, gawd... by CodeBuster · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course, the possibilities for wide-screen above a row of urinals do come to mind, so they'll get you eventually if they haven't already I doubt it, for the simple reason that it is easier for us men to "target" (if you get my drift) the source of our annoyance (unless they mounted it really high up on the wall) for immediate destruction via electrolytic liquid. That and women are probably less likely to completely trash the washroom, write on the screen with a grease pencil, or take any number of other destructive actions against the furnishings and fixtures.
    2. Re:Oh, gawd... by aerthling · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's one area I wouldn't mind seeing a little bathroom graffiti/vandalism. I might even consider supplying it (but probably not). It would probably only take two or three ruined LCDs to make the owners realise it's not worth their while.

    3. Re:Oh, gawd... by FireFury03 · · Score: 2, Funny

      for the simple reason that it is easier for us men to "target"

      I remain unconvinced that I want to urinate on a plasma screen, given the voltage that they run at...

  25. It's Only a Matter of Time by Vengance+Daemon · · Score: 4, Funny

    When we in Qwest's area call a telephone number that is busy, we don't get a busy signal, we get an advertisement for us to dial a code and the system will call us back when the other line is free. This complex and highly difficult process only costs 95 cents! I wonder when we will pick up the phone and hear a cheery voice selling something instead of a dial tone. Maybe each button on the phone could speak a product name rather than sound one of the tones: My number would be Pepsi Ford Ford - Prilosec Zantec Lunesta Zantec.

  26. That will NEVER happen by Weaselmancer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a great idea, but stores arrange their shelves and produce specifically to get people to impulse shop. That's why the candy is near the cash machines - so your kids will freak out while you're standing there waiting, in the hopes that you'll cave in and buy them the candy so they'll shut up. The less time you spend in the store, the less changes for you to impulse buy something.

    Stores would never do anything that would decrease your time being exposed to their products.

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    1. Re:That will NEVER happen by plover · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Oh, it's not nearly that simple. Sure, the counter candy (along with the other profitable stuff near the cash registers) is there for impulse purchasers, but there is a much bigger science to laying out a store than just "make people spend time", and a much more complex set of rules.

      A lot depends on the store: some stores strongly believe the Piggly Wiggly model that says you make more money by putting "necessities" (diapers, toothpaste, whatever) at the back so that you'll impulse buy your way to and from the goods you need. Other choices are constrained by logistics and architecture: milk, deli and frozen goods are frequently kept at the back simply because the coolers have to be mounted with their service doors facing the loading docks. Other stores have different goals, and lay out their floor plans accordingly.

      Most stores work long and hard with layouts. There's always a set of compromises to be made, and frequently original assumptions about traffic and shopping patterns turn out to be either wrong, or customers change their behaviors over time.

      For example, some Apple stores used to have the Genius Bar located along the middle of the side wall, with the cash registers along the far back wall, and the "family room" for the kids somewhere in between the two. It looked great from the front door, and on paper. But placing the geniuses there led to large crowds of non-geniuses in the middle of the store waiting for the geniuses, blocking traffic to and from the cash registers at the rear. Worse, people were leaving the registers with large, awkward boxes tromping past piles of squirrelly children and negotiating the crowds. Their newer store layouts feature the genius bar along the back wall, and they moved the receipt printers/registers nearer to the front doors. Employees (who are theoretically more careful than random customers) now carry the clumsy boxes from the back rooms carefully past the piles of children to the waiting customers at the front of the stores, who now only have to pay and then leave.

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  27. I'm guessing he's not frugal either. by riseoftheindividual · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've never seen a cost effective online grocery store. That's the reason I still go shopping. It's kind of funny to me how many of my friends will build their own PCs to save 50-100 bucks, then waste 30-50 bucks a week overpaying for food, never thinking twice about it. Whatever though, it's all about priorities.

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    1. Re:I'm guessing he's not frugal either. by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What's not cost effective about it? I could spend the time and trouble going to Safeway or Albertsons or Kingsoopers and buying groceries or I could save all that time and effort and pay Safeway or Albertsons or Kingsoopers to bring the SAME groceries TO ME. I don't know how it works in the US, but here (Paris), I actually *walk* to one of the supermarkets that's 500m away, then shop, then give them my address and they deliver the stuff (free past a certain amount, and I shop for groceries only once every 3 weeks or so) 1 or two hours later at a pre agreed time.

      Takes about 40 minutes of my time. And I get to go out and get various other things in the neighbourhood while I'm at it. I looked at shopping online but it wasn't worth the hassle (takes longer unless you always pick the same thing and ends up being more expensive).

      If there were animated ads on the carts I'd shop elsewhere though.
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  28. The History of Computing in a Nutshell by His+Shadow · · Score: 5, Funny
    Apple gives us the iPhone.


    Microsoft gives us an annoying shopping cart.

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  29. Re:In Shicago Re:Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, just what I need, to get assended by some wannabe housewife distracted from her cellie while herding her SUV down the freeway above the speed limit when she gets distracted by a moving video ad. If housewives paid more attention to the afternoon soap on their SUV's TV instead of looking at the billboards, things like that wouldn't happen !
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  30. Golden opportunity for hackers? by seven+of+five · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How long do you think it will be before these things get hacked into playing gore and porn on Aunt Nellie's shopping cart? And if that happens, how long do you think the stores will keep the system?

  31. Re:My aren't you blowing high and mighty by dwiget001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I *always* sign up for those cards with false names and never fill in any of the other non-required data. I get the savings, they get the spending and buying habits of Mr. Han D'Jobbin, Dijrt Brown, Jack Mehup, etc. Everyone wins!