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The True Cost of SMS Messages

nilbog writes "What's the actual cost of sending SMS messages? This article does the math and concludes that, for example, sending an amount of data that would cost $1 from your ISP would cost over $61 million if you were to send it over SMS. Why has the cost of bandwidth, infrastructure, and technology in general plummeted while the price of SMS messages have risen so egregiously? How can carriers continue to justify the high cost of their apparent super-premium data transmission?"

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  1. Adam Smith sez... by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Informative

    How can carriers continue to justify the high cost of their apparent super-premium data transmission? It's all about what the market will bear. Add in the fact that text messages are typically used for brief communication snippets and you have a more complete picture. Some providers offer unlimited texting plans... consumers are willing to pay for the convenience.

    Next up on Slashdot: Why do cars cost so much?
    1. Re:Adam Smith sez... by linzeal · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I had an unlimited texting plan from when I used it for server messages at work. When I switched to my own plan with the same cell phone I just kept the unlimited texting thinking I would use it for something. I never did. The only texts I have on there are from 411 calls.

    2. Re:Adam Smith sez... by jfim · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This might be a cultural thing. In regions where mass transit is more frequently employed, such as Japan, people almost exclusively use text messages. Since the US is more car-centric, it makes more sense to talk while driving instead of trying to type a text message.

    3. Re:Adam Smith sez... by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Funny

      it makes more sense to talk while driving instead of trying to type a text message Just curious, have you watched people drive recently? Maybe it's just Connecticut drivers...
    4. Re:Adam Smith sez... by BlackPignouf · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why do cars cost so much?
      Because we're even more addicted to car driving than we are to SMS sending?
    5. Re:Adam Smith sez... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes it is a cultural thing, but it is not related to the level of mass transit deployment. In Japan, talking is considered a impolite practice and most of the commuters will mute the ringtone whenever they enter the train. Like Japan, Hong Kong has a high mobile network coverage and a sophisticated mass transit system, however citizens tends to talk loudly in the cab instead of typing messages.

    6. Re:Adam Smith sez... by MyGirlFriendsBroken · · Score: 4, Funny

      Many countries (in Europe at least) have banned talking while driving

      Does this mean that I am going to have to stop talking back to my Sat Nav in a vain attempt to find out exactly what language Ken understands?

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    7. Re:Adam Smith sez... by Weh · · Score: 5, Informative

      there was a study done recently which showed that the difference in attention payed to traffic between drivers that were using hands-free phones and hand-held phones negligible. In other words it really doesn't make that much difference whether you're using hands-free or not (except for the law off course)

    8. Re:Adam Smith sez... by Cuppa+'Joe'+Black · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So we pay a premium to talk with our thumbs while our lips hang idle. O evolution! Caprice hath designed thy nature.

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    9. Re:Adam Smith sez... by Stefanwulf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The person in the passenger seat is in the same environment as you, and is far less likely to just keep chattering in your ear if something important starts happening. Instead, they'll probably be yelling "Look out!" or "Red light!"

    10. Re:Adam Smith sez... by Christian+Smith · · Score: 2, Insightful

      there was a study done recently which showed that the difference in attention payed to traffic between drivers that were using hands-free phones and hand-held phones negligible. In other words it really doesn't make that much difference whether you're using hands-free or not (except for the law off course)


      Except with a hands free, you have both hands available, so you can accurately control the car and safely respond to safety issues. If you're holding a phone, driving becomes more erratic as you're trying to steer and change gear with one hand.
    11. Re:Adam Smith sez... by brian.gunderson · · Score: 2, Informative

      [citation needed]

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    12. Re:Adam Smith sez... by drsmithy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Except with a hands free, you have both hands available, so you can accurately control the car and safely respond to safety issues. If you're holding a phone, driving becomes more erratic as you're trying to steer and change gear with one hand.

      The problem with using a phone while driving is not one of physical control, but one of attention. Which is why people with only one arm, or other physical disabilities, are allowed to drive.

    13. Re:Adam Smith sez... by Kagura · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It is a lie. It may be a post or base policy from the post or base commander, but that doesn't make it a violation of anything other than UCMJ, which is not ever referred to using the words "federal law". Fort Bragg has a similar policy, in that as long as the cell phone is not physically in your hands, you are free to talk and drive. You cannot hold a speaker phone in your hand or use the phone to your head, because you will get pulled over and fined by the MPs and you will also have to attend a Saturday "safe driving" course. The device must be hands-free of any type.

    14. Re:Adam Smith sez... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Im not sure why you even bothered responding. Everytime someone talks about cellphones and driving someone says it's no different that talking to a passenger. And every time, people try to explain why using a cellphone is worse.

      But the same people will keep up with the "no worse than talking to a passenger" crap the next time the subject comes up. They are not looking for facts or honest explanations. They are just trying to justify their own actions and maybe manufacture some doubt among the get-off-your-phone-and-pay-attention-to-the-goddamn-road-while-driving crowd.

    15. Re:Adam Smith sez... by ePhil_One · · Score: 3, Insightful
      there was a study done recently which showed that the difference in attention payed to traffic between drivers that were using hands-free phones and hand-held phones negligible

      I'd love to see a study that compared cell phone talking to having a conversation with a passenger and having your kids in the car. With luck we can get having multiple car occupants banned as a safety hazard. After that food, anything that can be read, the radio, etc... There's just no end to what we can ban!

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    16. Re:Adam Smith sez... by Firehed · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's all over the place.

      Not that I should talk, having used VNC from my phone to start a remote backup while driving (shh!). I was at a red light at the time...

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    17. Re:Adam Smith sez... by Gadgetfreak · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you think CT is bad, try crossing the border to Rhode Island. I seriously think the reason the majority of them don't use their turn signals is because they don't want to reveal their plan to the enemy.

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    18. Re:Adam Smith sez... by PirateBlis · · Score: 3, Funny

      My friend texts while driving all the time. I'm just waiting til the day I get a half finished message. Then I'm just gonna respond "Serves you right, dumbass"

    19. Re:Adam Smith sez... by aproposofwhat · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Many Mercedes and BMWs there?

      I believe (from the UK experience) that both indicators and mirrors are optional extras on German cars, as they never, ever indicate even when pulling out 3" from my front bumper :)

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    20. Re:Adam Smith sez... by glpierce · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If memory serves, that study has been done. Passengers aren't problematic because they recognize road hazards (or at least your reactions to road hazards) and will temporarily stop talking when the situation calls for it.

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    21. Re:Adam Smith sez... by joto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, talking on a cell-phone with handsfree is more distracting than talking to a real live person sitting in the seat next to you. The same thing can be said for pedestrians using their phones (or handsfree) in traffic. The reason is that the people you are talking to aren't seeing the same thing as you do, so they don't know when you are experiencing a situation that needs your attention. If somebody is sitting right next to you while you are coming up to a crossing or anything remotely dangerous, there will normally be a pause in the conversation untill the situation is resolved. Not so with cell-phones.

      I've noticed this phenomenon myself, when I'm driving my mentally retarded brother. He can't really talk, but is fond of attention, and typically says a lot of "hi" and "hello" and other things to grab your attention. Since he has absolutely no understanding about what goes on in traffic, his attention-grabbing often comes at unfortunate times, and I have to admit that this has caused some potentially dangerous situations. Naturally, I'm more careful when driving him now. I'll bet most parents have similar experiences.

      My cell-phone usage while driving is mostly related to professional activities with people who know I'm driving, so I have no problem with telling them that I'm coming up to an intersection or something, and they have no problem waiting. On the other hand, I can easily see that other types of conversation can be a lot more dangerous. I try to avoid those while driving, but unfortunately, it's not always easy to pull over, especially in dense traffic where you need it the most.

    22. Re:Adam Smith sez... by stokessd · · Score: 2, Funny

      You aren't from around here are you? You see, here in the USofA we have Starbucks which has paid the US Auto industry to only sell automatic transmissions. This allows us to wrecklessly weave down our huge roads with a triple latte in one hand and a RAZR in the other. No shifting necessary unless we hit someone, then we have to shift into reverse and take another sip and tell the person on the phone to hold on for a second.

      Sheldon

    23. Re:Adam Smith sez... by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Insightful
      If it doesn't, then you are likely in non-populous areas where the drivers typically don't know how to drive (e.g. PA - which is better around Philly/Pittsburgh than the rest of the state).


      What?!!!! I want what you're smoking. I can attest to the pathetic driving capabilities of people from Philadelphia. Forget about stopping at a stop sign when there's oncoming traffic. Red light? Sure, we can fit five more cars through as the opposing traffic advances.

      Merging traffic? Naw, you don't need to merge. Just stick your nose in. If the guy hits you, keep driving.

      and required response time may not leave time for signaling or other kinds of politeness.

      The only excuse for not using your turn signal is in an emergency situation or if you are the only car on the road at 2 AM. Other than that, turn signals should always be used.

      And yes, I do use my turn signal every single time no matter where I'm at.

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    24. Re:Adam Smith sez... by Lt.Hawkins · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wow, if you're constantly reacting last minute like that, then you must be part of the problem. Are you near-sighted or something? I grew up driving in New York, on Long Island, New York City, Queens. I've lived in DC and surrounding areas. I've driven in Miami, San Fran, Seattle. I haven't had a chance yet to drive in LA. I've also driven in 3rd world countries where people have habits that would utterly blow your mind (Right turns from left lanes, driving in reverse on major roads, no headlights, 6 cars abreast in 3 lanes, I saw all 4 of these just TONIGHT on my way home). I can count on one hand the times that I've had to do an emergency maneuver because something unexpected happened, and I'm a pretty aggressive driver. Every other time, I use my turn signals. Where I live now, I'm not just the minority; I'm the ONLY ONE who uses them; I can drive home from work and be the only person I can see who signals the entire way.

      As far as I'm concerned, signalling is the easiest thing you can do to avoid accidents. Accidents are caused by something unexpected happening. If you telegraph your intentions, others know what you're doing, and have more time to react to you.

      Its not like you have to reach anywhere. stick your finger out and flip it up or down. pretty easy.

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    25. Re:Adam Smith sez... by duerra · · Score: 2, Funny

      If you telegraph your intentions, others know what you're doing, and have more time to react to you. But officer, I *TRIED* to text him!
    26. Re:Adam Smith sez... by amorsen · · Score: 2, Informative

      Personally, I think this is more of a time issue. When dealing with heavier traffic, you have to respond, and required response time may not leave time for signaling or other kinds of politeness. If you don't have time to signal, you certainly should not do the maneuver. The obvious exception is if the maneuver is necessary to avoid collision, but if you find yourself doing emergency maneuvers on a regular basis, you should reconsider your driving style.
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  2. How can they justify the cost? by rritterson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They can justify the cost because we continue to reward them with lots of our dollars.

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  3. It's easy... by Sique · · Score: 5, Insightful

    SMS is the byproduct of the GSM standard. It was never designed to actually be a customer product. It was more or less thought to be some stderr of sort.

    When SMS was introduced at the beginning of the 90ies in Europe, it was basicly free. There were SMS gateways all over the Internet. But then the carriers were recognizing the marketing potential of SMS, and slowly the prices per single message were rising until they reached 49 ct (in Germany at the end of the 90ies). Only when parents were stunned by the SMS cost of their children, protests started to mount, and then the diverse regulation offices in the different countries were trying to limit SMS prices, so there were actual plans which included for example 1000 short messages per month.

    SMS is a prime example for the difference between price and cost of a product. The cost is nearly zero, but the pricing is expensive.

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    1. Re:It's easy... by Sique · · Score: 5, Informative

      What about actually reading the posting you are replying to?

      I never said that GSM cost is zero. I said that the cost of SMS within GSM is zero, because SMS is just a part of GSM (its stderr channel). So if you deploy a huge GSM network to work as a provider of mobile voice services, you get the SMS service for free. When GSM first was deployed it was never thought to have SMS as a separate service. Thus the first huge SMS networks were paid for by voice users who weren't even using SMS. Then the providers which already had a complete SMS infrastructure in place saw that the usage of SMS started to grow and they could just print money by increasing the SMS prices.

      When GSM was introduced in the U.S., the SMS facility was already been known to the providers as a big cash cow, and the calculations were already taking that in account.

      But still the cost to send an short message is much lower than the cost to send a phone conversation with about the same price. Here in Austria the charge for 1 min of mobile phone conversation is often 1 ct (up to 5 ct/min for prepaid plans). So for the cost of a single short message (19 ct) I can have a conversation for about 19 minutes. Which one will be more expensive to transmit for the provider?

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    2. Re:It's easy... by JonathanR · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You should also add that prior to GPRS being implemented, that the ability to send data from handset to handset was by using the network control protocols*, rather than within voice packets. Of course the GSM system wasn't designed to send masses of data by this method, so as far as the network infrastructure is concerned, high volumes of SMS data is a much greater burden than the packet data sent during a voice call.

      *This is my non-techie understanding. Somebody with GSM background can elaborate with the correct jargon.

    3. Re:It's easy... by Rulke · · Score: 5, Informative

      actually, thats bull, as the firmware that routes GSM in the networks is also used for SMS, actually, SMS uses the same channel your mobile uses to announce itself to the base stations and exchanges status information with. other services like reversed billing were developed later, and you pay for an SMSC because it adds convenience to you, not because you are technically not able to do it yourself... they make the contracts with all the providers, reserve those nice short numbers in all networks and give you a convenient web service or other interface to talk to... and for that you pay. I too used SMS when it first emerged in Europe for zilch... billing it would have cost them more than just letting you use it in those days, at least so they thought before they saw what ridiculous prices they could charge and get away with. When they finally started billing it was 23 cent for the first 100 messages, and 2.3 cent for every message more ... imagine, after it got up to 39 cent for every message... for them it's like printing money. Surely with the added services they developed ON TOP of SMS, like the afore mentioned reversed billing, premium SMS and so on they have slightly increased their costs for the service itself, but basic SMS started as an accidental byproduct of GSM Oh, i worked two years in a business that developed and distributed mobile applications, so this is not theoretical stuff.

    4. Re:It's easy... by FireFury03 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      the ability to send data from handset to handset was by using the network control protocols*, rather than within voice packets.

      Correct - SMS messages are sent over the SS7 network, rather than the circuit switched network used to carry voice.

      That said, I have no idea what network packet switched IP data is sent over (GPRS, etc.) - are the operators running the IP packets over yet another network infrastructure, or shoving them over the existing SS7 network (with possibly upgraded links). In the long run, the telcos are switching from SS7 to IMS (IP based - crazilly, usually IPv4. Talk about spending billions to upgrade to an already superseded protocol), but we aren't there yet.

      high volumes of SMS data is a much greater burden than the packet data sent during a voice call.

      well, not quite. SS7 links can be upgraded to provide more capacity, just as the circuit switched network can be (in fact, it isn't uncommon for SS7 traffic to be carried on the same physical TDM link as the voice circuits, so it wouldn't be hard to reallocate some of the voice timeslots to be SS7 links). In any case, networks have a very simple way of dealing with shock loads of SMS traffic (for example, new year's day) - they silently throw the messages away.

      Somebody with GSM background can elaborate with the correct jargon.

      Not specifically GSM, but I did work on SS7 and SIGTRAN for a while (and yes, they really are horrible protocols).

  4. How can you justify still using SMS? by Misanthrope · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just use
    T-Mobile: phonenumber@tmomail.net
    Virgin Mobile: phonenumber@vmobl.com
    Cingular: phonenumber@cingularme.com
    Sprint: phonenumber@messaging.sprintpcs.com
    Verizon: phonenumber@vtext.com
    Nextel: phonenumber@messaging.nextel.com

    Just buy the cheapest data-plan and it's still better if you're a heavy user.

    1. Re:How can you justify still using SMS? by Darkforge · · Score: 5, Informative

      All of the US cellular providers charge not just per message sent, but per message received. Using an SMS e-mail gateway may save you sending fees, but it won't save you on the receiving cost.

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    2. Re:How can you justify still using SMS? by Osty · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just use <phone number>@<provider gateway>

      While that's useful to know, you have to know what provider your contacts are using rather than just knowing their phone number. If your friends change providers (this happens more than you'd expect, especially since number portability became possible a few years back), you have to keep track of that. Even then, when the message sent through the gateway always comes from the same phone number. Depending on how your phone shows incoming messages, it may not be clear who the message is from. It's impossible to directly call the person sending you a message through the gateway (you'll have to dig through your contacts to find the person with the associated name/email address in the SMS body), which at least for me is an important feature to have.

      At least for me, SMS is used exactly as it sounds -- short messages, not long conversations, usually along the lines of "Let's meet up <somewhere>" with a short acknowledgement sent in reply (if at all). An average SMS session for me consists of 2-6 messages, depending on whether or not several replies are needed. Anything more than that and I'd rather send an email or physically call the person. I realize that I'm probably not a typical SMS user, but even so I'd much rather have cheap SMS available than always going through an email-to-SMS gateway.

    3. Re:How can you justify still using SMS? by Bert64 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So you're saying that by spamming those email to sms gateways, the victims will actually have to pay to receive those spams? That's a system just asking to be abused.

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  5. meh by reynaert · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They've invested a crazy amount of money in technologies customer's don't care for (3G, all the different ways to get the Web on phones), so now they have to charge a lot for the two things people actually use (SMS and ringtones).

    1. Re:meh by mikkelm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Consumers don't care about 3G? I'm extremely satisfied with my HSDPA USB modem, and everyone I know to have 3G phones are happy with their service.

  6. That's what happens without net neutrality by Animats · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cellular air links don't have "net neutrality". The pricing for voice, web browsing, SMS, video, and non-Web data connections is totally different. That's what it's like without net neutrality.

    1. Re:That's what happens without net neutrality by siwelwerd · · Score: 2, Insightful
      That's what it's like without net neutrality.

      You mean, scarce resources are allocated according to demand? The horror!

  7. Re:Offer and demand by dvice_null · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is probably some air on the prices, but not as much as the author of the article makes you think. Development, maintenance and hardware costs must be covered (service providers don't get the system for free). Then there is support you need to provide for customers. And billing. And marketing consumes some money also. And obviously managers need to get paid.

    And have you ever wondered how is it possible that simple text messages can jam the system every New Year? Sending 10 byte sms 1000000 times isn't equal to sending 10x1000000 bytes of data using data transfer. Every time you send an sms, the system needs to open a connection and it consumes a lot more resources.

  8. Even more rediculous.. by DigitAl56K · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Having to pay to send and receive SMS.

    Imagine if the postal service did that: I have to pay to mail you a letter, and then you have to pay to receive it. Better yet, you have no choice but to receive it and the postal service will bill you for it. Imagine all that spam you get in your mailbox costing 10c each. This is how SMS is charged on most US carriers.

    With the ludicrous fees associated with SMS (dollars per byte), if I pay several cents for a 160 character message it ought to get delivered without charges on the other end (including that persons bundled SMS "allowance").

  9. Re:They don't have to justify anything. by palegray.net · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The fact that people use text messaging services doesn't exactly make them morons. You could just as easily say that using the phone for voice comms makes you a moron. It's all about the level of service and convenience you want.

    Let me put things a different way: When I pay a buddy to help me fix my car, that doesn't make me a moron. I set a price for his assistance, and he agrees to it. Could I learn how to fix my car myself? Sure. That would be a major time investment, though, and I'm willing to trade currency for time in this case. So it goes with every other product and service we buy in a capitalist society.

  10. Dumb kids. by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Funny

    Pay anything for instant gratification. :-)

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  11. Re:Doh by palegray.net · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Score one for you on the textbook definition of reasonable profit in a professional service provider sense (i.e. an engineer or architect). Now try this: How about incorporating loss leading products and services, multinational issues, public trading levels, etc into an overall picture of profitable operations, from the start of the telecom supply chain to the handset that's chirping in the customer's hand?

    Do you personally know people who do in-depth cost analysis calculations on the profitability of their web hosting provider before forking over their cash? Seems like a big waste of time to me; most people seem to primarily care about the reliability and long-term track record of the company. Look at what the market as a whole is willing to pay, and compare that with your personal cost in time and money to use the service to arrive at a decision.

  12. Bling and Spinning Tires by EdIII · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Idiots. I remember somebody saying there was a "sucker born every minute". Some people just have no clue what they are spending when they cannot see a price tag or look someone in the face when that person asks them 1$. They just don't think about the big picture, what their bill is at the end of the month, and what they are getting for their money. I have a mentally challenged friend, which I love to death. I take care of him as much as I can. I actually pay some of his bills for him. He cannot handle the money. He can do basic math and figure out that the drink costs 2.50$, and he can pay for it and makes sure he gets the right change. He CANNOT figure out how many drinks he can afford on his paycheck. I don't want to sound condescending, but I am not sure most of the people getting stuck with high SMS charges are that much smarter than he is.

    I always knew SMS was a scam. 160 characters per message and I was getting 25 gratis? WTF? Were they communicating these messages with 300 baud modems over phone lines? I was instantly aware there was an extreme difference in the actual overhead of sending the message and the price point being set for the market. I did not understand the technology that much, but nobody could make me believe the cost of broadcasting a small message was that high. They do OTA programming all the time. The signal cannot take that much of the bandwidth on the cell tower. It would have to be equivalent to a 1 second conversation maximum, and since it is more like a UDP packet than a TCP packet, there would be less communications "overhead" to send it. Maybe I am wrong, I don't know if a cellphone sends an ACK type packet when it receives an SMS. Anyways, the technical aspect of it could not make me believe it cost that much.

    What made it far far worse as well was that early on, some systems like Exchange Server would use SMS as part of their delivery system. Try getting nailed for an SMS message for every 15 minutes for the whole day. Wheeeee. The SMS cost alone made enterprise email exchange on smartphones or pda phones cost prohibitive. Hence part of the real reason why that technology has moved to Direct Push and uses the WAP gateways instead. The other reason, IMO, is that Direct Push does not depend if your on the phone or not. You spend 30 minutes on your phone without it and email/contact/task synchronization stops during that time period.

    Please DON'T get me started on SMS messages that cost the person 1$ just to send them. American Idol? Deal or No Deal? Mofo Puhleeeze. The sheeples wonder why they are being charged 45$ at the end of the month in just extra charges.

    So that's what it really boils down too, sheer idiocy on the part of a lot of consumers... and many of them tend to be of the younger "hipper" generation that coincidentally does not pay their bills.

    In any case, its all over now. Verizon has started offering unlimited texting plans with all types of messages included, not just SMS. Included gratis in just about any voice plan. Recently switched 6 lines over to it and saved 30$ doing it. So if Verizon is doing it, and they are the WORST at plans, then everybody else must be doing it already.

  13. I call shenangians by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Admittedly, I can only see the summary because the site has been Slashdotted, but it seems to imply that $61m of SMSes cost about $1 to actually deliver.

    Given that people in the UK send, in total, about 50 billion SMS per year, and pay approximately 12 cents per message (we'll forget the freebies, let's go really conservative to see how silly the summary of the article is), for about a total market of $6bn. So, if $61m of charged SMSes cost $1 to deliver.. $6bn / $61m = $98. So.. the cost, to the providers, of delivering 50 billion text messages in the United Kingdom is $98? I'm not buying it.

    1. Re:I call shenangians by nilbog · · Score: 2, Informative

      You'll need to read the article, because that's not what it's saying at all. Even the summary makes it clear that it is comparing costs of bandwidth from an ISP vs. SMS over a cell provider. The cellular provider's actual costs are not taken into consideration, but as a previous poster pointed out, they are negligible.

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  14. Re:Adam Smith sez...Hookers should be free. by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm still waiting for the reason why sex costs so much? Well, yer ugly, and you smell bad. Those are yer good points. Good lookin' blokes, what know how to talk with a bird, like what she's sayin', it's important like. We're the ones what get's it - and has 'em buyin' stuff fer us, too!

    Bit a cologne... A blazer... Listenin' a bit more than talkin'. Goes a long way, mate. Sometimes into the next day!

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  15. Re:What are the American Telcos smoking by dido · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In the Philippines, widely considered the SMS capital of the world, where the three major carriers among themselves handle over a billion messages a day, prices have always been relatively low as well. They have generally been, for as long as I can remember, priced at PhP 1, which is about 2.5 US cents at current exchange rates, also with no charge for incoming messages. The basic rates go even lower when you factor in things like the carriers giving you a certain number of free SMS per month for monthly plans and per prepaid load, unlimited text messaging for a day for a fixed rate deals and other similar things. And even at these rates it can't be said that the carriers are losing money. In fact, they're making scads of it.

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  16. A LOT of air on the prices by Dr.+Hok · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is probably some air on the prices, but not as much as the author of the article makes you think.
    I work in a SW company and once talked to a representative of a GSM provider over the lunch in a pause of a workshop. He told me (and he didn't tell me it's a trade secret) that the entire SMS messaging in their network was handled by one single Sun workstation.

    IIRC it had cost about a million Euro (most of which was the price of SW) and just sits there, generating a revenue of roughly a million Euro per day. Maintenance costs: almost zero. Network load: almost zero, because messages are transmitted only in pauses between calls. Modulo New Year, nationwide televoting or football world cup, of course, where the assumption of a few messages between a few calls is no longer valid.

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    1. Re:A LOT of air on the prices by cnettel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yep, assuming that you have a cell grid covering the better part of a geographic area. A phone that's just turned on with a user who expects coverage wherever he goes costs almost as much as one with a limited, but regular, usage of SMS and voice. Still, the first one can get off far cheaper than the second, simply because users seem more willing to accept paying for actual actions, than just waiting. The interesting aspect in this light is that the text message might very well transfer as much information as a phone call of equivalent cost. The fact that the data content is far smaller is simply due to the ingenious idea of letting the user do the compression.

    2. Re:A LOT of air on the prices by adpowers · · Score: 3, Funny

      The fact that the data content is far smaller is simply due to the ingenious idea of letting the user do the compression.

      Heh, I like this concept. Perhaps the wireless companies-to the dissatisfaction of English teachers everywhere-are also subversively encouraging the use of SMS lingo. For example, "r u going to the mall 2night" is compressed to 82% of the original size of "are you going to the mall tonight". Those bastards will do anything to make a buck!

    3. Re:A LOT of air on the prices by arivanov · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is just the SMC. In order to handle SMS it relies on capability in the network and the price is driven by the network capability, not by the system which uses it.

      Unless the phone can do SMS over GPRS, each SMS message eats signalling capacity and travels along an SS7 link. After that it once again eats signalling capacity and competes with the rest of the signalling traffic for a place in the sun on the beacon channel. This is probably the most expensive way to encapsulate data known to man. You use mostly serial links, reliable transfer everywhere, transaction safe forwarding on every step and so on. It is not surprising that it is hideously expensive. When the protocol was designed nobody had the slightest idea how popular it will be and now it is a commodity so everyone is afraid to break it while trying to optimise it.

      So the hideous price of GSM SMS is here to stay until we switch to 3G.

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    4. Re:A LOT of air on the prices by weicco · · Score: 5, Funny

      It is even easier where I live. I just type "pub 15" and receiver immediately understands that it means a hectic beer drinking festival at the pub starting 15 minutes from now, put on your clothes and get your ass to the pub. So the compression rate is enormous! It also helps that there is only one pub in the town...

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    5. Re:A LOT of air on the prices by digitalchinky · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I spent a bunch of years working in the field, it was a rare site to see SS7 saturating a link. These days it is simple and cheap to add more SS7 capacity. You can already jam a metric crap load of phone calls down the bearer and still have lots of nice white space to spare for data. SS7 isn't much of a bottleneck at all. Certainly it's not the most elegant way to do SMS, but there really isn't that much competition with all the other dialing cruft that goes over the wire.

      I guess others might disagree.

      If you have the number of customers that would saturate your existing links, then you are also making more than enough money to add in more capacity.

      SS7 works well over pretty much any type of link. It's extremely common to see it on satellite, I think that would be about as unreliable as it can get, though you could get creative and try and do it over HF with a couple of home made transceivers and some bent up coat hangers for antenna.

      Maybe in the US it is taken as seriously as you say, but elsewhere the telco's really don't care how it happens, just so long as it almost always accurate and still turns them a stupidly high profit. Here in Asia it's quite common to see 8 or more SS7 links on a single E1, that's the popularity of SMS in this part of the world.

      It's technically more efficient to do SMS some other way, but right now it would seem bandwidth isn't so scarce that it makes economic sense just yet.

  17. Article text in lieu of mirror. by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just found out that AT&T (A-fee&fee?) is raising their text message pricing. When I first signed up for AT&T 6 or so years ago it cost 10 cents to send an SMS message, and it was free to receive them.

    When AT&T switched to Cingular the price of sending a message dropped to 5 cents, but they started charging for incoming texts - also 5 cents. Assuming you send a message for every message you receive, this works out at about the same price as before.

    AT&T came back online and phased out the CIngular brand name, and prices were again changed. This time to 15 cents each way.

    More changes have taken place that I can't quite remember. At one point text messages were 10 cents either way, and at another point they even included MMS (multimedia messages) at the same price as SMS.

    As of March SMS messages on AT&T will cost 20 cents and MMS will cost 30 cents - both to send a receive.

    So let's do some math here, and figure out how much this simple transmission is actually costing us.

    A standard SMS message contains up to 140 bytes (1120 bits) of data - this takes care of the 160 characters allowed in your text message. This might not make sense at first, until you realize that SMS uses 7 - not 8 - bit characters - leaving you with 128 possible character values instead of the normal 256. So 1120bits/7bits = 160 characters.

    So our total message length is about a tenth of a kilobyte (.13671875 Kbytes). In terms that the iPod generation would understand - if you had an iPod with a tenth of a kilobyte you could fit 1/4000th of a song on it. I assume here and for the rest of this article that 1 song = 4 Megabytes.

    If you divide 140 (the total number of bytes available to you) by 20 (the cost per message), you find that you are paying 1 cent for every 7 bytes of data. This leaves you with a cost of $1,497.97 for the 1024Kbytes contained in a single megabyte. iPod users: It would cost you $5,991.88 to transfer - not even to buy - a single song via SMS.

    By comparison, I pay $50 a month for a soft bandwidth limit of 500 gigabytes through a local ISP. That comes out to 512,000 megabytes or 10,240 megabytes to the dollar. This allows me to transfer 2,560 songs for the same price as a Junior Bacon Cheeseburger off the value menu at Wendy's: $1. I will use this my standard measurement for the rest of this article.

    So far I can make the following statements concerning the costs of bandwidth:

    Cost to transfer 2560 songs:

    From my ISP: $1
    Via SMS messaging: $15,339,212.80

    But wait, there's more!

    When calculating SMS charges, most people don't take into consideration that the message is really being paid for twice! If I send a message to another AT&T user, I am paying to send it AND they're paying to receive it! This should probably be illegal, but that's for another discussion.

    So how much does an SMS message actually cost? Not 20 cents - but 40 cents! This doubles all of my numbers above.

    Furthermore, my above figures estimate that people actually use all 160 characters available to them. Say people on average actually only used half of that (which is still being generous) - then their price of data has again doubled from the numbers I gave above!

    Making adjustments for both of the above statements, we realize that our above number isn't even close to correct! Corrected, the comparison looks more like this:

    COSTS OF TRANSFERING 2,560 MP3s:

    via my ISP: $1
    via SMS: $61,356,851.20

    Phew! THAT is premium data! It's no wonder that SMS texting alone is a 100 Billion dollar a year industry!

    How big is that? Take all of hollywood movie box office revenues worldwide. Add all of the global music industry revenues. And add all of videogaming revenues around the world. Even all those three together, we don't reach 100 billion.

    Let's even go more premium - how much would it cost to hand deliver data?

    The U.S. Postal service is currently cha

    1. Re:Article text in lieu of mirror. by mathew7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you do the comparison, do it right:
      With your ISP you have a direct medium (usually cable) capable of high-speeds (in this case, even 1mbps is high speed). And data overhead is less than 50% (IP header compared to 140 characters of data) on a pre-established link.
      With your cell, you have a shared medium (air) with a limited number of frequency bands. The overhead is not only the extra data transfered, but also (like a phone conversation) it has a separate line negociated to transfer.
      If you would have smaller prices on SMS (let's say 10 times smaller), more and more users would use it. This would increase the providers load, and even if they could handle it, some cells could be limited by their bandwidth which is regulated by the FCC. This would increase the transmission times and even affect regular communications, which means more angry calls to tech support.

      So providers probably justify it as a "crowd control" (something like use it only if you really have to).

      Im Romania at least one of the ISPs had a 1st 3 seconds not charged. Needless to say, the consumers started making 1-word calls (call, say 1 word and hang up, then do the same for each other word). I've heard about 1000-page detailed phone bills which were less than 10$. After the 1st year, they cancelled it on ALL contracts, not just the new ones. I don't have to say how it was during phone "rush hour" when you wanted to make a regular call.

    2. Re:Article text in lieu of mirror. by wizrd_nml · · Score: 2, Interesting

      One thing I don't understand about the american mobile phone pricing scheme is the idea of charging someone to receive calls or messages. Maybe it makes sense technically (you're using the network). But from a revenue maximization point of view it just doesn't make sense at all. The reason is, when you know that the person you're calling (or sms-ing) has to pay to receive your call, you'd think twice about whether you want to do that. I personally feel a lot more comfortable getting in touch with people when I don't have to worry about them paying anything.

  18. Air interface bottleneck plus infrastructure costs by Swordfish · · Score: 4, Informative

    You've got it right there.
    The reason that the real cost is actually quite high is the fact that the GSM air interface is miniscule compared to the demands of the all the people using the system in each cell.
    If an SMS were free, the air interface would get clogged up.
    So it's quite sensible to economize the use of the interface using price to depress demand.
    From memory (from my work with Detecon/D-1 in Bonn, Germany) in 1991/92, the SMS data goes over something called an SDCCH channel, which uses 1/8 of the bandwidth of a normal 13 kbit/sec voice channel (or half-rate 6.5 kbit/sec). The SDCCH channel is devoted to one user for a few seconds during the transaction. Potentially you can have 64 SDCCH channels open on a single physical frequency (using TDMA) at one time. But there are also bottlenecks in the signalling system (control channels).

    Additionally you require the whole infrastructure for storing and delivering the SMSes. Store-and-forward has complexities that connection-oriented traffic does not.

  19. I know! by eiapoce · · Score: 5, Informative

    I know the true cost of SMS messages!

    I made a paper for the univeristy some years ago. The marginal cost of a SMS is 0.

    They do have a little cost/opportunity. As a matter of fact SMS messages are sent on the control channel. Initially SMS were implemented in the GSM standard as a control system, just like the ICMP protocol of the IP stack. Then NOKIA though to implement a actual instant message function using SMS. The Contol channel is the channel that your mobile listens to in order to receive calls. So for receiving a SMS a control signal is sent. Since bandwidht is somehow limited on these channels it could happen that in a situation of massive usage of texting the control channel gets saturated and normal voice protocol initiation is disrupted. To prevent this carriers nowadays apply a kind of QoS delaying SMSs until there is no risk of congestion. So we can state that the marginal cost is 0 and the cost/opportunity is also 0

    Another story is for the MMSs. Their cost/opportunity is even lower since they run almost enterely on GPRS thus using most bandwidht on normal data channels. Thus a MMS with pictures sounds and maybe video SHOULD cost less than a SMS.

    So you wonder, why do I pay so much for a SMS or a MMS or even a Call: after the debts for the initial hardware infrastructure have been paid by the carrier you are still paying because of market segmentation (You won't change the carrier on the fly) and a little monopoly (Almost impossible to start a new carrier from 0).

    I hope ou liked the summary!

  20. some convenient fallacies here by wannasleep · · Score: 4, Insightful
    While I am no fan of AT&T, and certainly agree that the cost of an SMS is outrageous by any standard, but the article contains several fallacies.

    • The most common fallacy is mistaking the marginal cost of sending one SMS with the total cost. The marginal cost is basically zero, which is the point of the article. However, AT&T pays for a bunch of items that at a first approximation don't vary with the number of SMS sent through the network. There are many ways to account for these costs and there are entire university classes which deal with this type of calculations. However, when your network costs few billion dollars, a billion here, a billion there, soon we are talking about real money. The same applies to marketing costs, customer support, etc.
    • The author conveniently forgets that there is also a termination fee that a provider pays when messages originating from one network (e.g. AT&T) are delivered to phones on a different network (e.g. T-Mobile). So, some messages cost more, raising the overall average. Same apply for roaming charges, if any.
    • The author also miscalculates the number of bytes necessary to send an SMS conveniently forgetting the envelope, i.e. phone number of the sender, subject, time, etc. I am sure that his ISP doesn't subtract overhead from the 500GB of data he pays for.
    • Also, the author takes an average of 80 characters for the cost of SMS and compares them with the max number of words/characters you can send via US mail. An unfair comparison.
    All in all, all fallacies skew the numbers towards the point that the author is trying to make, which is quite unethical. It is also stupid because a fair comparison would totally support his point, just with slightly less astounding numbers.
    1. Re:some convenient fallacies here by nilbog · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "The most common fallacy is mistaking the marginal cost of sending one SMS with the total cost. The marginal cost is basically zero, which is the point of the article. However, AT&T pays for a bunch of items that at a first approximation don't vary with the number of SMS sent through the network. There are many ways to account for these costs and there are entire university classes which deal with this type of calculations. However, when your network costs few billion dollars, a billion here, a billion there, soon we are talking about real money. The same applies to marketing costs, customer support, etc."

      The point of the article is not what the provider's cost is, but what the consumer's price is. ISPs have operating costs too, but I wasn't looking to do an in-depth study and account for every penny.

      The author conveniently forgets that there is also a termination fee that a provider pays when messages originating from one network (e.g. AT&T) are delivered to phones on a different network (e.g. T-Mobile). So, some messages cost more, raising the overall average. Same apply for roaming charges, if any.

      It is true, I didn't mention (nor was I even aware) of carrier to carrier termination fees. But again, I'm not dealing with the costs on the carriers side. I'm dealing with strictly the cost of data compared to an ISP or TCP/USPS. The carrier's internal cost is irrelevant. Furthermore, asking how the carriers can justify such exorbitant prices was a legitimate, honest question (not rhetorical). You've provided a piece of the answer. But then again, we could ask how carriers can justify charging each other so much. I also do not have access to these figures.

      The author also miscalculates the number of bytes necessary to send an SMS conveniently forgetting the envelope, i.e. phone number of the sender, subject, time, etc. I am sure that his ISP doesn't subtract overhead from the 500GB of data he pays for.

      That is true. I didn't think of that. It probably wouldn't impact the final number much, but I fully encourage others to do the calculations for themselves. I'm sure someone much smarter than me could get closer to an accurate number. I'm not a math guy.

      Also, the author takes an average of 80 characters for the cost of SMS and compares them with the max number of words/characters you can send via US mail. An unfair comparison.

      Fair. I considered that as well. But to be fair, I was being very conservative in the estimation of how much data you could fit in a letter. I restricted it to a 256 character set, 12 point font, 250 words per page, no pictures, etc. You could easily fit 10x as much data printed out inside an envelope, or thousands of times more if it was on some sort of digital media. I also didn't forget to count the envelope this time. I could have gone either way with the numbers - calculating a stack of DVDs with the media mail rate, or a single sheet of paper in an overnight envelope. I figured the numbers I used would be a good average middle point.

      Overall I wasn't trying to be terribly accurate with the numbers. Again, I'm no math guy but the ballpark figures still give you an idea.

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  21. Re:As the four other posters... by esper · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's even more dangerous to be reading text messages while driving(or anything other than sitting down),

    Some of us like to live dangerously. On the rare occasions when I get text messages, I read them standing up.

  22. Re:Offer and demand by nmg196 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > Development, maintenance and hardware costs must be
    > covered (service providers don't get the system for free).
    > Then there is support you need to provide for customers. And billing.

    The infrastructure is exactly the same as that used for voice calls.
    In building the voice network, they DO get the SMS facility for free (or very nearly so).

    There is pretty much no reason why SMS and for that matter, data charges are so high. Even if they only charged quarter of what they do now for texts, they would still make a healthy profit on each one. People would probably also write more often and not stick to the 160 character message size so much so they might make a similar amount of money anyway.

  23. apples and oranges by joebob2000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article promises to tell us about the "true cost of SMS" but never actually does this.

    Cellular networks are very different than the data networks. One big difference is that while our data networks are connectionless, the focus of cellular networks is on connections. Operators must balance the use of SMS messages with the normal call traffic. Perhaps SMS use is disrupting normal call traffic and the operators are using the free market to curb SMS volume?

    Modern cellular protocols are reducing the connection-centricity of the networks and the price of text messages will likely come down, but at that point the messages will probably be run over 3G instead of the SMS mechanism.

  24. Re:Offer and demand by OlivierB · · Score: 3, Informative

    "10x1000000 bytes " you mean a whole 10 MB accross the system??? Yeah these consumers are insane!

    GSM Voice is 9.6Kb per sec. A minute of voice is 72KB of data, compared with 160 characters which shouldn't be much more than ~30bytes, or ~2500 times less data than a minute of voice data. Yet a minute of voice communication is usually cheaper than sending a SMS, at least with European carriers.

    Any more suggestions?

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  25. I wish it was the same in the UK by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why do so many people seem to have to phone someone just to shout "Hi. I'm on the train...yes the train ....now Its leaving the station.... bye".

    And then on the intercity trips there is always someone next to you that obviously uses his phone for business but has that really loud ringtone of Abba singing "Waterloo". He always puts his phone back in his pocket after each call and then takes 20 seconds to get it out again when he's called two minutes later.

    1. Re:I wish it was the same in the UK by digitig · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why do so many people seem to have to phone someone just to shout "Hi. I'm on the train...yes the train ....now Its leaving the station.... bye". Because it gives their SO at home an idea of how long they'll be, so they know when to put the food on.

      And then on the intercity trips there is always someone next to you that obviously uses his phone for business but has that really loud ringtone of Abba singing "Waterloo". He always puts his phone back in his pocket after each call and then takes 20 seconds to get it out again when he's called two minutes later. Because:
      a. Abba's "Waterloo" is more work appropriate than, say, Johnny Paycheck doing "Take this job and shove it" or Rage Against the Machine's "Killing (In the Name Of)".
      b. If they leave it out, someone will grab it and jump off the train when it gets to the station.
      Next?
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    2. Re:I wish it was the same in the UK by xaxa · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, but for every one annoying guy talking on the phone there's 10 people who've already sent a text "On time, will be there in 35 minutes" or whatever. If I'm travelling with someone I know I'll listen in to the conversation, and talk about it with my friend... that puts people off :-)

    3. Re:I wish it was the same in the UK by lubricated · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's 90's hip hop. 1992 specifically. 80's was more like run dmc and the like.

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  26. Re:Offer and demand by kelnos · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And have you ever wondered how is it possible that simple text messages can jam the system every New Year? Yes, I have, so I read up on it a few weeks ago. Apparently, on GSM networks, at least, SMS messages are sent on control channels, not on channels used for voice calls, nor on channels dedicated for SMS traffic. There's apparently very limited bandwidth on these control channels, which are also used to *set up* voice calls, so when SMS traffic peaks, not only are you unable to send texts, but you're unable to make or receive new calls. Appalling that the system is designed so poorly. I don't recall where I read this, but I'm sure some googling will turn it up if you're interested.
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  27. SMS Scene in India by rmadhuram · · Score: 3, Informative

    In India, we don't pay for receiving SMS. The cost of sending SMS is very cheap. Carriers make money, not with SMS alone, but what they call as Value Added Services (VAS). Many people subscribe to get daily horoscopes, cricket alerts etc., which is really the cash cow for carriers. Yes, we do get spams, but also get valuable community messages, like asking us to take our kids to get free polio drops etc.

  28. Adam Smith sez it's the price. by Kyokushi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In Indonesia, people use text messages since they're much cheaper than calling. A single message could cost you Rp250~350 ($0.03) compared to a phone call which could cost Rp1000/min. (US$1 ~= Rp9000)
    it depends on the price too, not just habit.

  29. Oh, I dunno... by crontabminusell · · Score: 2, Funny

    You should ask Kwame. He's learning the true price of text messages. =)

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4196564

  30. Raise the price of SMS! by rve · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "also they advertise through sms"

    That's great isn't it? It costs money to receive spam. If the cost of sending SMS is lowered, I'll start receiving more SMS spam.

    Today I receive an occasional spam message via SMS, probably because it's so expensive. If they lower the price to 1 cent, I'm sure I'll start receiving thousands of such messages every day, rendering mobile phones as useless as e-mail has already become, and bankrupting me in the process through the fee for receiving the messages.

    If it were up to me, SMS would cost nothing to receive, and $100,00 to send.

  31. P _ R N D 2 1 by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you're holding a phone, driving becomes more erratic as you're trying to steer and change gear with one hand. This is another cultural difference. In the United States, most cars and light trucks have an automatic transmission, and minor gear changes are done with the right foot. The only gear changes that need a hand are park, reverse, neutral (or "automatic car wash gear"), and drive, and these are done with the brake pedal firmly pressed.
    1. Re:P _ R N D 2 1 by dwater · · Score: 2, Funny

      If you're holding a phone, driving becomes more erratic as you're trying to steer and change gear with one hand. This is another cultural difference. In the United States, most cars and light trucks have an automatic transmission, and most roads are straight too, so bends are generally 90 degrees or close.

      and minor gear changes are done with the right foot. The only gear changes that need a hand are park, reverse, neutral (or "automatic car wash gear"), and drive, and these are done with the brake pedal firmly pressed.
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  32. Not Sprint as far as I can tell by StringBlade · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I just checked my family plan with Sprint (though I doubt it's different from a individual plan) where I know my wife text messaged me yesterday (she sent, I received and replied). On her phone it shows one text message used (not two if the receipt of my response were to count). Mine account shows 18 messages used (I have no data plan, so these are 10c apiece), but I know I've received more messages within the last month and that 18 reflects only the ones I've sent.

    I don't know where people get the notion that Sprint charges for incoming text messages because they don't. They also don't charge you for minutes spent listening to voicemail or charge you roaming charges at all inside the U.S.

    Say what you will about Sprint being one of the big bad telcos (and they are), but they certainly are doing a good job of steering clear from all the other crap the Verizon and AT&T do to their customers which keeps me locked into Sprint out of sheer audacity that a phone company would do such things to their customers and expect them to stay.

    I'm also waiting to see what Sprint/Nextel have to offer in the way of Android-enabled phones this year. Believe me, if Sprint started pulling the stunts Verizon and AT&T are pulling, then I would go without a cell phone.

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  33. The Real Answer: They Don't Want You To by FroBugg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real reason the price for single text messages has skyrocketed is because the carriers don't want you paying per-message. They want to drive you into getting a monthly bundle of X messages for Y dollars. Maybe you'll save money, maybe you won't, they don't care. What they care about is a steady income.

    Having people paying for five messages one month, then fifty the next, then ten the next is lousy for their bookkeeping. They don't like the unreliability. But if you're giving them $10 every month instead, their accountants are able to sleep at night.

  34. Re:But WHY??? by k_187 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One can text multiple people at the same time while talking is one-to-one communication. Texting is like IM. There's no reason to use IM when there's a phone on your desk right?

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  35. Re:But WHY??? by Doug+Neal · · Score: 5, Informative

    Your post surprised me as the advantages of texting seem very obvious to me. As I see it, they are:

    It's less intrusive to the recipient than a call. It's not demanding immediate attention, it doesn't make them stop what they're doing, it can be replied to at their convenience or not at all.

    It's perfect for sending information that you would otherwise have to find a pen and paper and write down, which aren't always immediately to hand.

    It's less annoying to people around you, if you're in a public space.

    Sometimes you don't want to have a full conversation on the phone with somebody - sometimes you just want to let them know something, or ask something, that's not important enough to go through the ritual of interrupting whatever they're doing with a call, making small talk, etc etc.

  36. Transaction Costs by slaingod · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First, I want to agree that I think SMS service costs too much, and I think being charged for receiving a message is ridiculous...

    But one of the main costs is transaction cost. I worked at a large internet ad delivery company back in the day and we had an anecdote describing what we were trying to do with our business. This is from a few years ago, so just take the numbers as approximate:

    Take the stock exchanges. They have millions of transactions a day and they try to keep the transaction cost down below $5 per transaction. Hence the $5 transaction fees, etc. Before Etrade and others, $5 wasn't even an option, but they brought the efficiencies of that market down below $5 so that they could actually make money there. Now take the telecom industry. They have tens of millions of transactions a day and they try and keep the costs down to $0.10 per transaction, hence the 'connection fee', 'rounding up' for calls less than a minute, etc. In the ad serving and reporting industry, our goal was to process billions of transactions a day at a cost of less than $0.0001 per transaction.

    Obviously there are different requirements involved at each level of transaction cost, so that was a little bit of an aside I guess. I think there was a credit card transaction one in there at around $1 too, but the point is that there are real costs involved in per transaction tracking and reporting, and historically they have been accounted and processed in a particular way by the telecom industry. For more reasonable pricing, the telecom industry would need to develop new methods to do this, probably taking from the ideas that the ad serving industry has been using for years now.

    But this may be also one of their excuses for charging for receiving a message, because they are required by statute to provide a certain level of tracking/paperwork/etc. for each transaction, and while one company (sending the sms from their customer)may have streamlined their reporting, another (the receiving customer's provider) may not, so since there is no standard transaction fee, they charge whatever they need to/can get away with.

    I'm not saying this isn't twisted logic, just that this may be part of the equation.

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  37. hidden words... by pikine · · Score: 4, Funny

    Because it gives their SO at home an idea of how long they'll be, so they know when to put the food on.

    You never know how many hidden words are in a conversation like that.

    Translation: "Honey, I know you've been seeing somebody, but I don't want to know about it. Please get him out of our bed---MY BED---before I get home."

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    1. Re:hidden words... by berashith · · Score: 2, Insightful

      you forgot the last bit.

      " ... and I will continue to pretend it isnt happening if the steak is prepared exactly as I prefer."

  38. Just for comparision by jandrese · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I work with some satellite based systems that cost less than the SMS rates AT&T is apparently charging. For example:

    Iridium (yes, they are still around): $1.50/minute (prices vary). This buys you a 1200 bps link (they claim 2400 bps, but your actual throughput is closer to 1200). This means to send a megabyte of data would cost you (1048576 / 1200 / 60 * 1.5 == $21.85). According to the article a megabyte of SMS would cost you $1,497.97. Iridium was generally considered to be grossly expensive when it came out.

    Now lets compare against a real (even more expensive) satellite connection. Inmarsat BGAN charges by the megabyte, a common plan is $7 for each modem/satellite hop, so in the worst case scenario you're sending modem to modem for $14/meg.

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