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Yahoo Deal Is Big, but Is It the Next Big Thing?

mattsgotredhair brings us a NYTimes article discussing how Microsoft's bid for Yahoo contrasts against one of the core philosophies of Silicon Valley: looking forward. From the Times: "Microsoft may see Yahoo as its last best chance to catch up. But for all its size and ambition, the bid has not been greeted with enthusiasm. That may be because Silicon Valley favors bottom-up innovation instead of growth by acquisition. The region's investment money and brain power are tuned to start-ups that can anticipate the next big thing rather than chase the last one. 'This is the very nature of the Valley,' said Jim Breyer of the venture capital firm Accel Partners. 'After very strong growth, businesses by definition start to slow as competition increases and young creative start-ups begin to attack the incumbents.'"

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  1. wrong city by User+956 · · Score: 5, Funny

    That may be because Silicon Valley favors bottom-up innovation

    No, that's San Francisco.

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  2. What about Google? by aussie_a · · Score: 5, Funny

    That may be because Silicon Valley favors bottom-up innovation instead of growth by acquisition This explains why Google is so unpopular in Silicon Valley.
  3. I really do not get it... by tgatliff · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How is this the next big thing when MS buying Yahoo shows how frustrated they are with their MSN Live initiative? Yes, I definitely think that buying Yahoo was a smart move at a great longterm price, but other than them building it directly into Vista 2.0, I dont see how much more good it will do them. The move was simply them "buying" marketshare in an attempt to trump Google. Considering that Yahoo has already shown that they cannot compete with Google, I suspect it will turn out just like the early days of the Compaq / HP deal in relation to Dell. This is just my opinion, however...

    1. Re:I really do not get it... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I suspect it will turn out just like the early days of the Compaq / HP deal in relation to Dell While the early days didn't go so well in that deal, HP now has 17.6% of the market while Dell only has 13.9%.
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    2. Re:I really do not get it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You can't compare the HP/Compaq merger to a Microsoft/Yahoo! merger. First of all, infrastructure plays a much greater role in the Microsoft/Yahoo! scenario. Yahoo! is heavily run on open source software, including PHP, FreeBSD and Linux. It won't look good for Microsoft if so much more infrastructure is running on software they have belittled for years now.

      So either they'll have to do like they did with Hotmail, and let it run on FreeBSD until they've basically re-written in from scratch to use their technology. Of course, that will be very costly, and likely nowhere near as good as the original (like we've seen with Hotmail). They'll be in the same position they are now, except having spent far more money.

      The HP/Compaq merger was far more about combining product lines, management teams, R&D, support teams, etc. That is, it was more about an organizational merger, rather than a technological acquisition.

    3. Re:I really do not get it... by Herschel+Cohen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well it really was not an offer. As I read it, it was a statement of intent. That is, most likely they plan to acquire shares from holders that are willing to sell directly to MS at a premium. Once a sufficient percentage is obtained they move to take over the company by a proxy vote. Control is final after a positive review by the DOJ and the EU.

      This is a hostile take over where the purchaser could care less what either the board and the management thinks or responds.

    4. Re:I really do not get it... by pallmall1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      MS can afford to offer deeply discounted prices to advertisers in order to to eat up Google's marketshare.
      They can cut the price all they want in order to get more ads and advertisers, but that doesn't mean they'll get more traffic. Marketing is based on the number of people who see the ad and their demographic. If MS cuts the price without a significant increase in traffic, they'll only be reducing the value of their existing base.
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  4. Other reasons for not being warm to the reception by downix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Microsoft has only $17 billion in cash and easily liquidatable shares (almost all MSFT stock). A $44.6 billion bid requires them to "print money" ie Shares. This deal is absolutely horrid for any responsible stock analysist or stockholder for either company. WHat Microsoft is basically offering is to produce new shares, diluting ownership for all involved, which when paired with the rapid selloff upon deal conclusion, will drive the price of the stock downward even moreso than it has been since (It still hasn't recovered from the recession of '01). Add in that their operating cash is mostly stocks which would be driven down by this, you're looking at the potential for a bite more than they can chew.

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  5. More criticism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  6. MS loses to Google because of their choices by astrashe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    MS looses to Google because their management makes bad choices. At least their choices are bad when compared to Google's.

    MS's management will continue to make bad choices. If they had enough money to buy Google itself, and if anti-trust concerns weren't a factor, it wouldn't matter. They would break Google and push it into the ground. They problem isn't their strategic position. The problem is in between their ears.

    Look at Hotmail and Gmail. Hotmail was a very early web email service. MS bought them. Then they just let it sit there. MS people saw Oddpost coming down the road, and they should have gotten all pumped up with what was possible. That's apparently what happened at Google -- someone saw that fancy Oddpost ajax email client, and said, let's do this better than Oddpost is doing it.

    MS doesn't try to do much until someone pokes them with a stick, and a lot of times they don't do much even then. Right now the world is screaming at them about all of the things wrong with Vista, and their response is -- no, you are all STUPID, and we are right, and you just don't get how awesome Vista is.

    They're not fixing anything.

    They're the victims of their own monopoly. They're fat and stupid and lazy, and they think the world owes them success. They're insanely profitable, but it's because they're in the catbird seat, and not because they're earning it. They don't have to earn it, and because they don't feel the heat, they can't earn it.

    So you know, sit back in your lavish headquarters, and reminisce about how great it was to go out and threaten to cut off people's air supplies, and how wonderful the world was when you could bully people effectively.

    I feel bad for yahoo. I remember when it was just some page on a guy's workstation at stanford. They did a lot of great things. They don't deserve this ignominious fate.

    And there are stories floating around that yahoo people are saying -- there's no way in hell that we'll work for MS. So, MS, know that everyone dislikes you. And know that it's a direct consequence of your deliberately cultivated culture of bullying and thuggery.

    Everyone at yahoo knows that when you buy that company, you're going to break it, and that going to work on a day to day basis is going to suck. And believe it or not, that has a lot to do with why you will not beat google.

    Someday google will suck too. Their culture will rot, and dumb people will climb on top of the smart people. But that day is a long way off.

    So you know, go off and think about how to make sure my monitor will prevent me from playing unauthorized videos, or how to make my computer's audio system check up on the license status of my music. Because I'm your customer, and believe me, that's what I'm really pining away for. That's what I want more than anything. You know me so well it's scary sometimes.

  7. Re:This is what MS did before and it worked back t by Herschel+Cohen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Saying ... most wealthy, successful software company in the world is doomed to failure ... I don't read it that way, however, in business studies attempts to merge companies with differing cultures can devastate the acquiring company. Moreover, the business being fast paced can doom the pursuer to a more distant relative standing than the sum of the two companies' starting market shares. Take one of the examples you cited: HotMail, how long did it take MS to get that right? The danger is they may not have the time to get it right.

    I really doubt that MS will disappear due to this or other missteps, but that does not mean the probabilities are nil to none.