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In Soviet US, Comcast Watches YOU

cayenne8 sends us to Newteevee.com for a blog posting reporting from the Digital Living Room conference earlier this week. Gerard Kunkel, Comcast's senior VP of user experience, stated that the cable company is experimenting with different camera technologies built into its devices so it can know who's in your living room. Cameras in the set-top boxes, while apparently not using facial recognition software, can still somehow figure out who is in the room, and customize user preferences for cable (favorite channels, etc.). While this sounds 'handy,' it also sounds a bit like the TV sets in 1984. I am sure, of course, that Comcast wouldn't tap into this for any reason, nor let the authorities tap into this to watch inside your home in real time without a warrant or anything."

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  1. Ah well ... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is one privacy issue that a little electrical tape can cure easily.

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    1. Re:Ah well ... by AragornSonOfArathorn · · Score: 5, Funny

      not really. If you cover up the lens, the cable box goes "Your papers, please." Then you'll have to type your SSN or passport number in with the remote before you can watch TV.

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    2. Re:Ah well ... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, they can't make that illegal because they've already told to lay in plenty of duct tape in case of a chemical attack.

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    3. Re:Ah well ... by uniquename72 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I guess then you stick a picture of an empty room in front of it. Naaah...goatse.
    4. Re:Ah well ... by Original+Replica · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I mean really why do people put up with this? It's almost as if people are too lazy to defend their privacy and too eager to whine about their problems or something.

      In a way, whining about this in a widely read forum like Slashdot, is defending our privacy. Public awareness is the first step towards stopping things like this. Now the American public has an almost zero attention span, so awareness has to be loud and alarmist to even register on the social consciousness. To add to that problem, the evening news is alarmist about everything because it gains ratings, but further buries any real problems from getting the attention they need in order to be resolved.

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    5. Re:Ah well ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You do realize this is intended to "customize user preferences", right?

  2. Ceiling Comcast watches you masturbate by LuminaireX · · Score: 5, Funny

    Note to self: no more sex in the living room.

  3. 1984 by mikeabbott420 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A 'bit' like 1984? Who in the hell would go for this? Americans seem to have managed to convince their politicians and corporations that they have no interest in freedom at all.

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    1. Re:1984 by George+Beech · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Politicians and corporations seem to have managed to convince Americans that they have no interest in freedom at all

      fixed it for ya

  4. Interesting by TheMeuge · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This would be useful for determining who's on the end of the cable line, using bittorrent. The FBI can then go ahead and break their doors in, during an early-morning no-knock raid.

    They can then go ahead and develop technology to determine who's watching the commercials and who isn't... and then apply a flat per-minute fee for not watching advertisements.

    Alternatively, they can charge a per-viewer fee for pay-per-view events. After all, if you crap 20 people around your HDTV to watch a $40 boxing event, isn't it logical that you should pay extra for every extra person who's watching it?

    Heck, there's all kinds of useful things a company could do with this information.

  5. Picture this by Reason58 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The ultimate reality show: watching yourself watch yourself.

  6. Opportunity to screw with their minds by StefanJ · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, no, no! Keep on spanking the monkey, but for the sake of the camera do it while surrounded by:

    Roll 1d8:

    1) Stuffed animals
    2) Feminine hygiene products
    3) Jars of Bovril
    4) Jars of Marmite
    5) Old computer hardware
    6) Cassette tapes of ABBA albums
    7) Duct tape
    8) Any two of the above

    With any luck, the Demographic Analysis software will either give up or -- unless 1960s SF shows have taught me wrong -- spew reams of paper tape, shout "DOES NOT COMPUTE!" in a tinny voice, and catch on fire.

  7. Already there? by symbolset · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What makes you think the camera is not already there? Have you disassembled your cable box?

    Food for thought. Your cable box could have a camera already. If you have cable internet you know it has enough bandwidth for monitoring you.

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    1. Re:Already there? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      They're over there right next to your couch. You really do need to clean up that mess in the hall, and you probably want to ask your wife why the UPS guy's clipboard is on the counter. They made so much noise it was hard for me to listen in on the neighbor's phone conversations.

  8. Re:It will get forced on us by Zymergy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well.... that is until someone's underage teenage son and his underage girlfriend decide to shed all their clothes and have brazen sex in front of the cable box... The legal details of that scenario would be very interesting...
    -What does legally happen when some adult's Comacast 1984-style bidirectional TV box "inadvertently" observes illegal underage nudity and sex. I am sure if this data was in any way streamed over their network there would be numerous state and federal laws violated (or if it were retained in any way), not to mention grounds for a very hefty lawsuit.
    It would make for some interesting legal reading in any case.

  9. Re:They knew who I was. by aurispector · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Heh. It's hard to believe someone thought this was a good idea. After the recent warrentless wiretap fiasco, it's brutally obvious that this would be abused by some government agency somewhere. Fascists exist in every society.

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  10. Re:It will get forced on us by Monchanger · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder how the box itself would respond to observing sex. Would it find them some pr0n, advertise condoms and morning-after pills, or perhaps turn the volume way up? Could one program it to switch to an abstinence-preaching Christian network to get them to stop?

  11. Re:It will get forced on us by dosymedia · · Score: 5, Funny

    Won't *someone* think of the cable box?!!

  12. Kunkel Replies by Stanistani · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the Fine Article's Comment page:
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    Chris,

    Your article on "Comcast Cameras to Start Watching You" portrayed some assumptions that require correction and clarification. I want to be clear that in no way are we exploring any camera devices that would monitor customer behavior.

    To gather information for your article on Comcast's exploration of cameras you picked up on my conversation with another conference attendee. The other attendee and I were deep in a conversation discussing a variety of input devices offered by a variety of vendors that Comcast is reviewing.

    The camera-based gesture recognition device is in no way designed to - or capable of - monitoring your living room. These technologies are designed to allow simple navigation on a television set just as the Wii remote uses a camera to manage its much heralded gesture-based interactivity.

    We are constantly exploring new technologies that better serve our customers. The goal is simple - a better user experience that allows the consumer to get ever increasing value out of their Comcast products.

    As with any new technology, we carefully consider the consumer benefits. In fact, we do an enormous amount of consumer testing in advance of making a product decision such as this. I'm confident that a new technology like gesture-based navigation will be fully explored with consumers to understand the product's feature benefits - and of course, the value to the consumer.

    Sincerely,
    Gerard Kunkel
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    I despise Comcast, but thought the fellow should at least be allowed to defend himself.

    How ticked off he must be - those meddling journalist types!

  13. Re:They knew who I was. by rudeboy1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's probably bad that the first thing I thought of was, "damn... no more watching porn in the living room"... ...or watching TV without pants ...or making out on the couch ...or building bombs on the coffee table

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  14. Re:They knew who I was. by anup_at_mac · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was almost there with you till you said

    making out on the couch . Yeah right !!... oh wait, did you mean with an inflatable doll or something?
  15. Re:They knew who I was. by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 5, Informative

    Indeed: Italy still elects avowed fascists to high government office far more often than the United States.

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