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What Font Color Is Best For Eyes?

juraj writes "What font color and what background is best for the eyes, when you work for a long time? I have found various contradictory recommendations and I wonder if you know about any medical studies on this topic."

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  1. Great Blazing Colors by JWSmythe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yellow on red seems like a very popular high contrast color combination for several years.

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    1. Re:Great Blazing Colors by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Funny

      I remember that from Windows 3.1. I think they called it hotdog stand.

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    2. Re:Great Blazing Colors by JWSmythe · · Score: 5, Interesting


      Ok, that post was for fun. :)

      For my shells, that I stare at for hours, I use:

      green on black

      yellow on black

      white on black

      It's usually green on black. I use yellow on black for special shells (like when I'm using a lot of shells with cssh). Putty defaults to white on black, so when I'm stuck in Windows land, that's it.

      Any shells that default to black on white, I switch immediately. It's not so bad in a web browser, but there's something about a shell and typing in it that hurts my eyes. It could be that I'm concentrating that much more on the text on the screen, since it's usually fast data. Like, tail logs on a busy server, or run top with a refresh of 1 or 0. I catch details that other people don't even notice on their machines.

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    3. Re:Great Blazing Colors by RuBLed · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm using Zenburn-like themes for quite sometime now and I find it pleasant to look at. (on the screen and not on paper, I just apply another theme if I want to print preview it)
      http://slinky.imukuppi.org/zenburn/
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenburn

    4. Re:Great Blazing Colors by scum-e-bag · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's usually green on black.

      Any shells that default to black on white, I switch immediately. It's not so bad in a web browser, but there's something about a shell and typing in it that hurts my eyes. Same here. I think it may have something to do with green lying in the middle of the visible spectrum. Similar concept as police/emergency lights being red/blue at opposing ends of the visible spectrum allowing for maximum visibility under maximum conditions.
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    5. Re:Great Blazing Colors by arth1 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Our eyes don't work like that -- they don't scan the visible spectrum from low to high, and see blue as the opposite end of red. Instead, we have receptors for certain colours, and base our colour perception on how much each of those get triggered. This is why colour blindness hits red/green or yellow/blue, despite those colours not being adjacent on the spectrum.

      Our eyes can differentiate shades and hues of green better than any other colours -- this is an inherited survival trait from when it was important to see predators and distinguish ripe from almost-ripe. Blue, on the other hand, wasn't as important to survival, so we can't tell too many shades of blue apart, nor very far towards ultraviolet. We perceive indigo (the traditional indigo, not the "purple" that's called indigo these days) as a dark colour, for example, because it's at the edge of what we can see.

    6. Re:Great Blazing Colors by SoupIsGood+Food · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Green on black terminal windows are the way they are for the same reason old oscilloscopes and radar displays were green on black - it's more cost effective to make a cathode ray tube that glows green. For a long damn time, all terminals came green-on-black, simply because that was the cheapest way to pair a CRT with a keyboard, and hardware terminals were what they used back before PC's were popular. Or invented.

      The result of this was horrific eyestrain. Yes, some people can handle bright colored text on a black background. Most get eyestrain or worse, migraines. This is especially so if you switch from green-on-black to black-on-white (like a printed page).

      Typists and transcriptionists and grad students and pretty much anyone who needed to refer to a printed reference hated it. In the early '80s, color monitors were pretty much crap for text (too fuzzy, not enough resolution) so there was a boom in the production of "amber" monitors. These used monochrome CRTs that phosphoresced a muted yellow-orange. This wasn't quite as jarring to the eyes.

      Then someone came up with paper-white monochrome CRT's, and that was pretty much all she wrote for greenscreens.

      Geeks keep it alive, because of nostalgia and tradition. It's looks high-tech and cool, because there was a time when it was high-tech and cool - and because there is an association with Unix, and by extension, Linux. What's more Unix than a DEC vt100 terminal hooked up to a PDP-11? Nothing. That's about as close to the metal as you can get without a soldering iron.

      But, please, for the sake of your eyes and the eyes of others, don't pretend there is any inherent advantage to green-on-black for the vast majority of users.

    7. Re:Great Blazing Colors by Malekin · · Score: 5, Informative

      The three types of cones are generally referred to as L, M and S cones (for long, medium and short wavelength peak sensitivity) The S cones peak at what we call blue (~435nm), the M at green (~534nm) but the L do not peak at red. The L cones have a peak sensitivity at about yellow-green (~564nm).

      We use red because red is way out the end of the visible spectrum and red light excites the L cones but not the M cones. If we were to use yellow-green we'd be exciting the M cones too much. The average person has about twice as many M cones than L or S cones, (we're very sensitive to green light) so yellow-green ends up exciting the M cones more than the L cones. By adjusting the amount of red (L cone excitation), green (M cone excitation) and blue (S cone excitation) we can replicate in the eye the cone response any visible colour would generate.

      The human vision system is not like a camera - the cone response is only one part of a long and complex chain. Afterimages are somewhat a function of photo-pigment bleaching and later stages of visual processing in the nervous system and brain.

      Cone response references:
      Stockman, A. & Sharpe, L., "The spectral sensitivities of the middle- and long-wavelength-sensitive cone derived from measurements in observers of known genotype'', Vision Research, Volume 40, Issue 13, Pages 1711-1737, 16 June 2000

      http://cvision.ucsd.edu/cones.htm

    8. Re:Great Blazing Colors by SnowZero · · Score: 5, Informative
      Argh please don't mod this up so high, as people are going to read this and believe it without further research. I'm sure you meant well arth1, but it seems you weren't taught the whole story.

      Our eyes don't work like that -- they don't scan the visible spectrum from low to high, and see blue as the opposite end of red. Instead, we have receptors for certain colours, and base our colour perception on how much each of those get triggered. This is why colour blindness hits red/green or yellow/blue, despite those colours not being adjacent on the spectrum.

      Yes, we have different color sensors, but this is beside the GP's point. The green response curve overlaps significantly with red and blue. See the spectral response here. Red/Blue flashing lights will cause a significant color contrast as they alternately hit one type of cone and then the other. Even though the response to blue is low, it is still an effective color to use because the human eye's response is logarithmic wrt to brightness (i.e. take the graph I linked above and take the log the y dimension). Even that's a simplification when you add rods to the mix, but that's a subject for another post or later research.

      Our eyes can differentiate shades and hues of green better than any other colours -- this is an inherited survival trait from when it was important to see predators and distinguish ripe from almost-ripe. Blue, on the other hand, wasn't as important to survival, so we can't tell too many shades of blue apart, nor very far towards ultraviolet.

      This is wrong. We can identify more hues of blue than any other color, followed by red, while the intermediate hue discrimination can be quite low. Green sucks because that cone's frequency response is highly correlated with parts of the other two, and thus it forms somewhat of a degenerate basis for describing a hue with the 3 weights. Google "Hue-discrimination curve" for more info.

      The evolutionary argument for this has *no* good evidence supporting it, but has become a very vibrant meme (I won't call it a legend, since it is an unproven theory). Green is bright for a variety of potential reasons: (1) It's one of the easier pigments for synthesize biologically, (2) There's a lot of green light coming from the sun, (3) It's a good baseline from which to differentiate other colors (there's a lot of green in our environment), and (4) yeah maybe it could have to do with rotten/ripe fruit. I'd bank on the first two though, especially noting that our hue sensitivity in the green range sucks. Predators are best to detect via motion (primarily rods), and by non-green cones (predators are camouflaged best against rods, i.e. non color vision, i.e. luminance, which overlaps most with green). You can of course believe whatever theory you want, but please don't start speaking about one as being authoritatively true; I know some evolutionary biologists like to extrapolate really far from the evidence, but it always hurts when they are wrong on some theory that gets discounted, since it gives creationists a hammer to bludgeon all of biology and science with. Please don't give them that ammo, and label speculation as speculation until there's real concrete evidence to show. For evolution of these traits, that means sticking mostly to the "what" and "how", and not claiming "why" except in the most general and statistically supportable terms.

      We perceive indigo (the traditional indigo, not the "purple" that's called indigo these days) as a dark colour, for example, because it's at the edge of what we can see.

      It's not just that its near the edge, it's more complicated with several factors: (1) The blue cones are not that sensitive, (2) there is no additive luminance response due to the other cones frequency response falling off completely at violet, and (3) the rods don't even respond to it very well (last point only really matters for

    9. Re:Great Blazing Colors by graphicsguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In fact, given a good LCD monitor, black on white should be the best....The more it can look like paper, the better. Paper works great.


      Because the screen directly emits light, it is typically more tiring to your eyes. That's why people often prefer light text on dark background for a screen. I generally choose "old school" green or amber on black.
  2. Eye-friendly color combination by GMThomas · · Score: 5, Funny

    Background :#FFFFFF Text: #FFFF00

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  3. White on white by NuclearKangaroo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've been saying this for years, but no-one's paying attention, apparently...

  4. Colour? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When you work with computers for long periods of time, the colour of the font is nothing compared with taking regular breaks. Look out the window. Go for a walk. Make some tea. Bump up the font size. Get a bigger monitor and put it further away.

    You are focusing on a tiny, tiny, tiny piece of the problem. There are almost certainly a ton of ways in which you could reduce eyestrain by gigantic amounts in comparison without bothering with something as trivial as font colour.

  5. Easiest by kdogg73 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Like my porn, it's black on white.

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  6. Bright BLUE on vibrant RED ... by DodgeRules · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... then shake the monitor.

  7. a serious response... by unfunk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The human eye is naturally lazy, and likes to look at things that do not cause it to send strong signals. To that end, a black background is essential for "easy on the eyes" formatting. From there, pretty much any light colour can be use for the text.
    When I was in uni, I used to buy special black paper "visual arts diaries" and write my class notes using a gold, silver, bronze, or plain white ink pen. This had the effect of making my pretty poor handwriting easier to read for most people, and also reducing the effects of my dyslexia; I would make less errors like inverting a series of numbers as I wrote them down and the like.

  8. Answer: Whatever makes you feel the best by neapolitan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'll chime in as a physician.

    I always wondered in medical school what causes eyestrain -- your mom probably told you "don't read in poor light," but since the photons are easily sufficient to give an image on your retina, this didn't make sense to me.

    It turns out that your eye muscles have a difficult time obtaining a rapid and precise focus with poor light, which gives less contrasts on the edges that are detected for sharp focus. In low light conditions, the eye muscles are rapidly focusing back and forth, and these micro-contractions can fatigue them similar to the other large muscles of your body. As an analogy, imagine walking on level ground versus on a balance beam. You are constantly contracting different adjustment muscles to walk on a balance beam, using more energy and promoting fatigue.

    So, in answer to your question, you would want a high-contrast color scheme to make it easy for your eyes to focus on the letters. "Duh," I hear you say.

    Next, I would recommend minimizing the difference in brightness between your monitor and the outside environment and its background. That is, in a dark office have a dark monitor, and in a bright office, a bright one. Why? Well, same reason -- your eye muscles have to dilate your pupil every time you look away from a bright monitor to a dark monitor. More contractions / adjustments -> more fatigue. Not only that, but the high brightness contrast will give ineffective normalization of light across the eye receptors and could cause headache.

    Regarding your study question -- difficult to fund, and difficult to accomplish. I guess you would have to divide several hundred office workers, and try to have them work the same hours under same conditions with different fonts, and then ask a subjective question regarding symptoms. It could be done, but I am not sure of any well-performed efforts that have addressed this question.

    In summary, I would just choose contrasting colors that you like or find subjectively pleasing, and then keep the brightness on your monitor appropriate for ambient lighting. Also, don't forget to focus on the numerous other ergonomic factors on your workstation. I see a *lot* of people with bad backs from the workplace, but there are a lot of 80 year old secretaries that are not blind.

    Cue the contempt for expertise from the anti-intellectual crowd now. :p

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  9. myspace by timmarhy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just look on myspace, then do the exact oppersite.

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  10. You gotta explain for us Americans... by halivar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gray is a color, grey is a colour.

  11. I am and because of that by RuBLed · · Score: 5, Funny






  12. Re:Infocom had it right: white on blue. by bennomatic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your screen is dark. your text is likely to be eaten by a grue.

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  13. You are on the right track but there is more by Skapare · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You are on the right track but there is more. Yes, higher contrast is better than lower contrast. But how this works with color is complicated.

    One big issue is that the eye is not perfect optically. It cannot focus all colors at the same focal plane. Just how well it does varies by individual and the optical conditions of their eyes, and the quality of corrective lenses (which usually make it worse with respect to the ability to simultaneously focus all colors).

    An important factor to consider here is which color or colors the difference is at the edge being focused on. For example in the "hot dog" pattern that has been mentioned in a reply here, the difference is actually in green. If the red level of the yellow part is exactly the same as the level of the pure red part, then all the difference is in green and this is an issue of green contrast. Yellow on red like this is essentially the same as green on black ... except that the extra red light with yellow on red causes the iris to close down more than the darker green on black would.

    I find blue to be the worst to focus with. That may be because my sources of blue light are not sufficiently narrow band in the spectrum. Being spread out over the spectrum, it basically comes in fuzzy. Blue is also lower in contrast.

    Green (be it green on black or yellow on red or even cyan on blue) is better.

    Red seems to be the best in terms of focusing a sharp defining edge. You get red contrast with red on black or yellow on green or magenta on blue.

    Unfortunately, effective contrast goes down when extra light is added in other colors. So you have to find a balance trading off the sharpness of the edge vs. the contrast. I've found a good compromise in orange on dark green (the level of green in the orange is the same value as the green background). Think of the orange in a neon sign on the green felt of a pool table. Then when I need to highlight something, I shift over to pink on cyan ... basically add the same level of some blue to both the orange and the dark green.

    A related issue is light quality when reading a book or newspaper. Usually we are stuck with black letters on white paper. The consideration is then what type of light. I find that incandescent light, or sunlight, works nearly best for me for long term reading. Fluorescent lighting is worse. Ironically, I find high pressure sodium vapor light is about as good as, and sometimes somewhat better than, incandescent light.

    To understand this, look at the spectrum. Incandescent light has a fairly even level through all light wavelengths. This makes those black on white edges a bit fuzzy. But fluorescent light has two narrowband peaks at a red and green wavelength (the blue is broader). This can make the text edge sharper ... twice. The eye ends up with two contrast edges. I believe this increases the eyestrain by causing the focus to be constantly jumping in and out to alternate the focus on the two different edges. It's a very small adjustment, but it is there at least for me. With incandescent light, it just settles in the middle of the fuzzy range and doesn't change much. And this is affected by how much light there is, which dictates how small the iris becomes. Higher light levels with a smaller iris won't change the effect from fluorescent as much as for incandescent, since with fluorescent the two contrast edges are already rather sharp due to the two narrowband spectral peaks. But for incandescent, the high light level helps (up to the point that intensity is too stressful).

    This is why I believe we still need to keep some incandescent lighting around for reading and other close/fine work for long periods of time. I get a headache when working on things I need to look at closely when doing so under fluorescent light. The onset is about 25 to 45 minutes. I don't get the headaches under incandescent. And I have verified that the flicker is not the cause. White LEDs

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  14. Mustache Bold by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Funny

    While you joke about red on yellow, I personally use a three color font system that is brown stokes infilled with a pale orange sitting on a white background. It's very legible as you can see in this example here

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  15. Re:mod parent up by Kohath · · Score: 5, Funny

    I vote strongly for "take a walk", especially this time of year when it's starting to get nice and warm outside. In what country? Your current country. Walking is best and most easily accomplished in the country where you are.
  16. Re:Leopard OSX fonts a polychromatic and easy to r by Majik+Sheff · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you read the follow up you'll see that that is not a feature of Leopard, but the result of sub-pixel rendering. It's a technique for making text look better on LCDs.

    Steve Gibson has an interesting article on it here:

    http://www.grc.com/ct/ctwhat.htm

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  17. Re:Leopard OSX fonts a polychromatic and easy to r by nahdude812 · · Score: 5, Informative

    CRT pixels do not line up precisely with their r, g, and b light emission points, at least on most CRTs. If you look at a single white pixel on a field of black through a lupe, you'll see it's composed of a number of red, green, and blue dots, not one dot for each color. Look at a different pixel, and the exact pattern will be different (shifted a little).

    They use a couple of electromagnetic coils in the rear of the tube to guide an electron beam to the right point on the CRT's surface, but it is not so precise on most models (though maybe some really high end stuff for scientific work) as to be able to exactly hit specific phosphorescent spots.

    This is why sub-pixel rendering works on LCDs but not CRTs (which turn on and off [or shade] specific color points digitally), because we know the exact shape and color layout of each pixel.