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The Texas Petawatt Laser

Roland Piquepaille notes the hype surrounding what the University of Texas at Austin is calling the world's most powerful laser. During a tenth of a femtosecond this laser is 2,000 times more powerful than all the power plants in the US, and is brighter than sunlight on the surface of the Sun. On his own blog Roland points out that UT's is not the first petawatt laser; that distinction belongs to a system installed at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in 1996.

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  1. We're all wondering... by dj_tla · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will this laser have to be attached to significantly more powerful sharks?

    1. Re:We're all wondering... by Icarium · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wouldn't firing this laser underwater make the water uncomfortably hot? Please people, think of the sharks!

    2. Re:We're all wondering... by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wouldn't firing this laser anywhere causally connected with the known universe make earth's water uncomfortably hot? Where do they get the power to run this thing anyway? Do they just jack into all of the power plants in the US for 200 femtoseconds and then release it all in a tenth of a femtosecond? And how does it make sense to refer to the generating capacity of all the power plants the US in terms of energy? There are no times, femtosecond or not, involved, watts are rates of energy consumption.

    3. Re:We're all wondering... by walt-sjc · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bah - who needs sharks... They will just install them in military jets for when they need a LOT of popcorn...

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    4. Re:We're all wondering... by odourpreventer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Where do they get the power to run this thing anyway?

      In case this was a serious question: Giant capacitors, connected in parallel.

    5. Re:We're all wondering... by Tribbin · · Score: 4, Funny
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    6. Re:We're all wondering... by yoavi · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is not accurate. Watts are indeed rates of energy consumption, that is, the amount of energy consumed per unit time (Watt stands for Joule per second). Now, if we squeeze 100 Joules in into 10^-13 of a second, then the *instantaneous* power during those 100 femtoseconds (and yes, the story has got it wrong, it's a tenth of a picosecond, not femtosecond, which makes a hundred femtoseconds) is one petawatt. The average power, assuming we operate at 0.1Hz (which I think will be the laser's repetition rate) is only 10 Watts.

      This also answers the "heating" problem. These lasers carry a relatively small amount of energy, and produce very little heat. However, the electric field that is produced when the beam is focused is huge, and many interesting phenomena can be studied with such a laser.

      Btw, for the same reason, this type of laser is completely useless as a weapon. In order to cause any real damage one has to deposit energy into the substance that is to be damaged, and again, these laser pulses carry a relatively small amount of energy.

    7. Re:We're all wondering... by The+Bender · · Score: 4, Informative

      Obviously the energy is built up over the period between pulses. And since the repetition rate is only 1 shot per HOUR, the average power output is only 0.1 W!

      That wouldn't even put a dent in my electricity bill.

      Yes I know, I know...

    8. Re:We're all wondering... by garett_spencley · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Btw, for the same reason, this type of laser is completely useless as a weapon."

      Thanks. Another slashdotter crushes another one of my hopes and dreams. Jerk :(

    9. Re:We're all wondering... by Missing_dc · · Score: 2, Funny

      But what we really want to know is:

      Have they tried levitating a squirrel yet?

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    10. Re:We're all wondering... by interiot · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It looks like this. Pictures like that bring a tear to my eye. If you have even a small subset of those capacitors, you can do some seriously cool shit.

    11. Re:We're all wondering... by Dancindan84 · · Score: 3, Funny

      But... sharks don't have hands.

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    12. Re:We're all wondering... by Perf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Where do they get the power to run this thing anyway?

      In case this was a serious question: Giant capacitors, connected in parallel.

      ... from a bazillion disposable cameras.
  2. Pish. by AndGodSed · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am holding out for Laser Eye Implants.

    (Just don't go glaring at yourself in the mirror...)

    1. Re:Pish. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's all good, so long as you remember to shout "BEHOLD! OPTIC BLAST!" before doing it.

    2. Re:Pish. by l1gunman · · Score: 3, Funny

      WARNING: Do not look directly into laser with remaining eye.

  3. Sorry boys by martin-boundary · · Score: 4, Funny

    It'll never work. There's just no peta tonne shark to put it on.

  4. link to project page by dermond · · Score: 4, Informative
  5. But... by Rix · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can it levitate a squirrel?

  6. Re:Time duration? by famebait · · Score: 3, Insightful

    even I can say my torch is brighter than the sunlight on the surface of the sun for 1 gazillionth of a second.

    You could say it, but it wouldn't be true.

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  7. Re:So what? by YeeHaW_Jelte · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "It's odd that the first thing that you thought of was how Americans suck and how Europeans are so great with their LHC."

    Those are your words, not his.

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  8. Uses? by sjs132 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Am I the only one thinking about "Real Genius"? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089886/

    Lets get ready to cook some popcorn!

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  9. For a tenth of a femtosecond... by weremook · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am the greatest lover that ever lived.

    But seriously,I have been electrocuted by 20,000V at significant current several times. But only for a few hundred nanoseconds at a time. Sparks plugs rock.

  10. Re:the fools! by Digestromath · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You can have mini-black holes, but you can't really have mini-novae or mini-supernovae (mini-super would be a contradiction anyways right?).

    However, your right be concerned about the potential bouts of uncontrollable fusion/fission and thier scientist vaporizing shockwaves.

    The mini black holes aren't a worry. It's when they become large enough to devour scientists, and thier space/time warping event horizons encroach on your personal boundaries, then you should worry.

    Grey goo? Seriously, you're a human. We replicate out of control consuming any natural resources we can get our hands on. We're just not really efficient grey goo.

  11. Wrong about the Sun and petawatts by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 4, Informative
    A petawatt is only 10^15 watts.

    Our Sun puts out about 4 x 10^24 watts, continuously, for billions of years.

    So this laser is only putting out about one four-billionth of the Sun, and only for a very split second.

    It's also very misleading if they intended to compare brightness per unit area. Even a cheap laser pointer is brighter than the surface of the Sun.

    1. Re:Wrong about the Sun and petawatts by Swampash · · Score: 3, Funny

      I would be happier if they expressed the power of this laser in the recognized units of "Libraries of Congress" and "football fields".

  12. picosecond, not femtosecond by The+Bender · · Score: 2, Informative

    The pulse length is ~100 fs (0.1 ps), not 0.1 fs. 100 fs is already about as short as laser pulses can get - and 0.1 fs is much shorter than the length of a single electromagnetic wave.

  13. Obvious mistake in TFA by justkeeper · · Score: 5, Informative

    One femtoseocnd is 10 to the power of -15 of a second,NOT one trillionth of a second.Thus the pulse duration should be 100 fs,which is realistic.State of the art technology can't yet produce high power sub-femtosecond(i.e attosecond) pulses ,due to low conversion efficiency of energy concentrated on the low-frequency spectrum to the high-frequency spectrum using currently available methods(for an attosecond pulse a Fourier Transform will show that you have mostly X-ray frequency components in the frequency spectrum). Discaimer:I'm a Ph.D student working on high-power laser systems.

  14. Soon to be a Dime a Dozen by djtachyon · · Score: 5, Informative

    University of Rochester is building a petawatt laser of capable of picosecond pulse lengths. http://omegaep.lle.rochester.edu/

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  15. not to be a pedant, but... by The+Bender · · Score: 2, Interesting

    To be fair, a 5mW laser point would need to be focused to a diameter of ~10 microns to reach the sun's surface intensity of ~6kW/cm^2.
    And a cheap laser pointer can't be focused to that size.

    But of course you're right. They're just going for the unwashed public wow factor.

  16. Re:global warming by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Petawatt Lasers use, wait for this, petawatts of power.

    Yes, peta watts (10 ^ 15) for less than a femto (10 ^ -15) second)

    A mere blip compared to other power uses. I don't think this research is particularly relevant to climate change, the OP was trying to start a flamewar.

    How you think that power is generated? Nice clean nuclear? Hahahaha.

    Probably natural gas. And carbon-neutral is a better way to describe nuclear than clean.

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  17. Re:Time duration? by MLCT · · Score: 4, Informative

    They aren't ridiculous - and you are ill informed to say that they are. Average power vs. peak power. Those two variables are highly relevent for a pulsed laser. Your "torch" isn't even pulsed.

    A lot of ground breaking research is undertaken *utilising* the ability to deliver very short very high energy pulses - for doing that you can deliver a huge amount of energy in a very tiny amount of time - then observe what happens. Indeed a lot of the very high energy regions cannot be accessed with anything but ultrafast pulsed systems, as CW setups would just destroy themselves (and even using UF systems chirping "tricks" are used to reduce peak powers until the final moment to ensure the optics aren't burnt out).

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirped_pulse_amplification

  18. Nope. You are a factor of 1000 out. by Maddog+Batty · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nope. The key ring laser pointers are 1mW to 5mW so this thing is 2000 to 10000 times the average power. A 10W laser is very good at setting fire to things but won't drill a hole through your still twitching body.

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  19. Re:So what? by kalirion · · Score: 3, Funny

    To be honest, its hard to get excited about this with the LHC coming online soon.

    True, what's the most this laser could do, cut the Earth in half? Pretty tame compared with the LHC recreating the Big Bang and destroying the universe as we know it.

  20. It's what they don't say by cnosh · · Score: 3, Informative

    You have to put this in perspective. They may have made a laser with highest peak intensities but it's nowhere near the most energetic laser out there. According to their press release their pulses have 150 J of energy. Compare this to the National Ignition Facility at Lawrence Livermore laser, which will produce 1.8 MJ per shot when it is completed next year, or to the laser at the University of Rochester, which will produce several kJ. Though not yet finished, both these lasers have already demonstrated many kJ of energies.

  21. Roland the Plogger again by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative

    More Roland the Plogger blogspam, driving traffic to his useless ad-laden blog. To get around the block on links to his own site, he's now submitting links disguised via "tinyurl".

    Slashdot covered this laser weeks ago.

  22. I hear Pacific Tech is right behind them by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 3, Funny

    They have a freshman wonder kid and a graduating senior working together on breakthrough laser designs.

  23. Nope. You are definitely wrong. by celtic_hackr · · Score: 2, Informative

    10W lasers are frequently used for engraving in metals and will, if left on long enough burn a hole through steel. While it may take a while, and your body will no longer be twitching, it can and will eventually burn a hole through a human body. The grandparent of your post is wrong about the "heat thing" is also wrong. You have to use the instantaneous power. While the explosive power of firecrackers exploded 1 per second is small, one firecracker explosion is enough to do serious harm to a finger. If any of you think this petawatt laser isn't producing significant energy output, I dare any of you to stick your finger in it's path. I guarantee, you'll lose some flesh and bone.

    BTW, surgical lasers are generally in the range of 3-100W and a 30 watt laser will rapidly burn a hole completely through your hand, and you won't even know it happens until it's done. It will be quite painless. Maybe some residual heat, or a reaction from a nerve after the fact. And a 5mW Laser will easily burn through your retina, depending on the wavelength of the laser. Of course a single look in a 5mW laser will leave a very small bindspot, unless you keep it on your eye looking at it from lots of angles.

    Naturally there is a difference between pulsed and continuous beam lasers, and this petawatt laser is not a continuous beam. There are no continuous beam lasers in this region of energy output, because nothing could hold up to the continuous heat produced by one.

  24. Correction: by JSBiff · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Don't Lase me, Bro!"

    Fixed it for you.