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Building a 5-Ton Calculator From 19th-Century Plans

alphadogg writes "Starting in May, many will have the opportunity to see computing done the old-fashioned way: with lots of gears, a big crank, and some muscle. The Computer History Museum in Mountain View, CA, will unveil a new construction, the first in the US, of the 19th-century British mathematician Charles Babbage's Difference Engine No. 2, an improved version of his earlier design for a mechanical digital calculator. It weighs in at two tons more than the Difference Engine built in 1991 at London's Science Museum. Microsoft millionaire Nathan Myhrvold commissioned and paid for the US model."

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  1. It's cool by kampangptlk · · Score: 4, Funny

    But does it run linux?

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    1. Re:It's cool by Adambomb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      yes, and we can all imagine a beowolf cluster of them, comparisons with automobile tonnage, and how in soviet russia, 2 tonn calculator uses YOU.

      yep.

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    2. Re:It's cool by calebt3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Make an emulator and try it ;-}

    3. Re:It's cool by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Funny

      No it if you RTFA you will see that it was sponsored by Microsoft.

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    4. Re:It's cool by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny

      But does it run linux?

      Yes, but first you have to figure out how to approximate Linux as a Taylor series.

    5. Re:It's cool by evanbd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      First, this is the Difference Engine No. 2, not the Analytical Engine. It's not Turing complete.

      Second, the usual restriction on running something like Linux is lack of memory, not lack of a Turing-complete instruction set. Or, looked at another way, no one has ever or will ever build a Turing-complete machine, because they'll run into difficulty with the infinite tape.

    6. Re:It's cool by cheater512 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hmm...I wouldnt want to put Vista on it in that case.

    7. Re:It's cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      The answer is no, as the Difference Engine is not Turing complete. Charles Babbage realised the errors of his ways though. He repented, abandoned work on his difference engine and commenced work on his Analytical Engine. This new analytical engine was Turing complete and so could run Linux. Unfortunately the desktop version of Linux was delayed until 2004. When he found out about this delay Charles Babbage was broken hearted. Disabled by grief he was unable to complete his analytical engine before his death.

    8. Re:It's cool by ross.w · · Score: 2, Funny

      But how much information can it process in Libraries of Congress?

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    9. Re:It's cool by Perf · · Score: 2, Funny

      How many operations can it do in the time it takes light to jump between my knuckles?

    10. Re:It's cool by Zaatxe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Even being modded funny, an emulator would be very interesting as an "educational tool" about how the machine works.

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    11. Re:It's cool by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Informative

      yes, and we can all imagine a beowolf cluster of them, comparisons with automobile tonnage, and how in soviet russia, 2 tonn calculator uses YOU.

      I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but it always gives me 42.

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  2. frock by Missing_dc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does this mean as a sysadmin that I should start wearing my Frock and Tophat and subscribe to the local Victorian club???? :)

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    1. Re:frock by lgw · · Score: 2, Funny

      ask how many bits there are defined per byte when somebody counts in bytes CHAR_BIT, of course! I'm old school enough to get annoyed when somone just assumes '8' in code. :)
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  3. Re:Why? by FoolsGold · · Score: 2

    Why you ask?

    Because they can, and because they want to. Not everything required a practical use to be built.

  4. We'll know about four years after it's completed by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Funny

    But does it run linux?

    We'll know about four years after it's completed - when it gets done with the boot-up.

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  5. Improved model? by calebt3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Babbage's Difference Engine No. 2, an improved version of his earlier design for a mechanical digital calculator Hence the 2...
    1. Re:Improved model? by cyphercell · · Score: 4, Funny

      were you expecting 1.9? I don't think they used the opensource versioning conventions en vogue today.

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  6. What if... by DigitAl56K · · Score: 5, Funny

    What happens when you divide by zero on a calculator using a physical engine?

    Does it explode? Will it create a black hole? Could this be the next doomsday device?

    1. Re:What if... by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Being boring I would expect it would Jam. A gear may break off if you force it.

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    2. Re:What if... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Universe 1.0 will come to an end. God -- or the designated higher being of your choice -- will shake His divine head, and create Universe 2.0 with better error handling routines.

    3. Re:What if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      As I recall from some of the mechanical calulators I used several decades ago, division was performed by repeated subtraction. I don't remember trying to divide by zero, but my guess is that you'd have to keep turning the crank forever . . .

    4. Re:What if... by evanbd · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's far more specialized than that. It basically computes values of a polynomial from a starting set (interpolate / extrapolate). It doesn't have an explicit fexible divide operation. Exactly what sort of error you get out is going to depend on how you carry out the division, but most likely you would do exp(log(a) - log(b)), which would produce a very large negative number for log(b) (an incorrect result, obviously), and a very large number for the result. It might or might not overflow, depending on the precision of your approximating polynomials for log and exp at the values of interest.

    5. Re:What if... by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 5, Interesting
      To start, a famous quote:

      "On two occasions I have been asked, "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."


      What truly happens to an impossible sum?

      Does it dry up

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      or does it fester like sco

      and then run?

      does it stink like an overused meme?

      or crust and sugar o'er--

      like a deferred dream?

      maybe it just sags like a 5-ton calculating machine under a heavy load

      or does it explode?

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    6. Re:What if... by eln · · Score: 2, Funny

      I would hate to think this many bugs made it past the initial release.

    7. Re:What if... by Torvaun · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or not turn the crank at all.

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    8. Re:What if... by Bronster · · Score: 4, Funny

      I definitely think it's v2.0 - it shows all the hallmarks of second system syndrome - big, complicated, complete rewrite with all the lessons from the first one thrown out. Yep, v2.0 it is.

      (maybe v2.1 now - there was a service pack applied a couple of thousand years ago according to some reports)

  7. Meh.... by mark-t · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When you can make an difference engine out of LEGO, it really doesn't seem that impressive to build a five ton one. Babbage's analytical engine, however... that would be an interesting piece.

    1. Re:Meh.... by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Article: Andrew Carol, an Apple software engineer who built a simpler difference engine, entirely of plastic LEGO pieces...

      It appears Mr. Babbage should have invented Legos first.

    2. Re:Meh.... by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 3, Insightful
      From Carol's site:

      Babbage's design could evaluate 7th order polynomials to 31 digits of accuracy. I set out to build a working Difference Engine using standard LEGO parts which could compute 2nd or 3rd order polynomials to 3 or 4 digits You can compute 3rd order polynomials by hand without too much strain. Seventh order polynomials are too difficult to reliably compute by hand--the mind numbing tedium might get to you after a bit.

      Nor can you build a seventh order difference machine out of legos.

      Plastic gearing and axles are subject to large amounts of flex and gear lash, which can be a significant problem where any level of precision is required. Babbage's machine weighs five tons because it was designed to be precise. The museum's machine weighs five tons because it is intended to be a replica of what Babbage created, not just an amusing simplification.
    3. Re:Meh.... by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 2, Funny

      Also, synthetic polymers and several artificial dyes.

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  8. Only the difference engine? by jdb2 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    With the money this guy has surely he could afford to build a version of the Analytical Engine. It's not a giant leap for the machinists involved in such a project, given that the fine specifications for the various gears, wheels and cogs is a no-brainer for today's technology -- all the parts could be laser cut by a robot. It would be truly awe-inspiring to see the first computer functioning in all its glory, for indeed it is Turing complete and lays out many of the concepts used in modern digital computers.

    Here are some links :

    http://www.fourmilab.ch/babbage/

    The obligatory 99-bottles-of-beer-on-the-wall in punched card Analytical Engine assembly language :

    http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-babbage's-analytical-machine-79.html

    Hmmm, I dare say that's shorter than the C# version, if you remove the comments. Oh and it will run Linux, if you have enough coal and are willing to wait a few years for X to load. ;) (it does have a graphical output device) As for a beowulf cluster, that might help performance, although your interconnect mechanism would probably be pneumatic ie. tubes (that's what the Internet is made of anyway right?) and the cluster size would require a few tens of millions of units. ;)

    jdb2

    1. Re:Only the difference engine? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

      In a nutshell, it's just an old way of saying "it runs programs".

      Before we had the formal concept of "programs" (as defined and refined by Backus and Naur), computation machines calculated numbers based on information fed into them on paper tape. A full set of instructions on paper-tape was called a "tour", and while the program was running the computation machine was said to be "touring" or "turing" (Fr). When the end of the tape was reached, the computation machine was said to be in the "turing complete" state (i.e. the tour was complete).

      The term "turing complete" came to mean any computer which could run any program fed into it to completion (assuming correct input, of course). We use the term "program" and "run" to talk about computer input nowadays, but we still use the term "turing complete" to describe our general purpose computation devices (computers).

    2. Re:Only the difference engine? by setagllib · · Score: 3, Informative

      Err, what, it's not at all named after Alan Turing, one of the fathers of fundamental computation theory? Or is this a really bad joke?

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    3. Re:Only the difference engine? by flosofl · · Score: 3, Informative

      Before we had the formal concept of "programs" (as defined and refined by Backus and Naur), computation machines calculated numbers based on information fed into them on paper tape. A full set of instructions on paper-tape was called a "tour", and while the program was running the computation machine was said to be "touring" or "turing" (Fr). When the end of the tape was reached, the computation machine was said to be in the "turing complete" state (i.e. the tour was complete).
      Um...What?

      No. Turing Completeness describes a Universal Turing Machine that can emulate every possible computing device ever built. It was not named as such for "touring", but the Church-Turning thesis. As in Alan Turing.

      Babbage's Analytical Engine design would have pretty much met the definition of a Turing Complete machine.
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    4. Re:Only the difference engine? by calebt3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hint: You are replying to BadAnalogyGuy

    5. Re:Only the difference engine? by Sir+Nimrod · · Score: 2, Informative

      The problem is that there are no complete plans for an Analytical Engine. Drawings and diagrams, yes, but nothing complete. For Difference Engine No. 2, the Science Museum had a (reasonably) complete set of plans. (They had to make a few tweaks, but they did everything they could to keep it in the spirit of the original design.)

      Doron Swade's book The Difference Engine: Charles Babbage and the quest to build the first computer is a marvelous read; it was published in the U.K. as The Cogwheel Brain. You may have to search for it, though, because it is evidently out of print. (We have a copy from the San Jose Public Library, and they have five other copies available.)

      Can't wait to see it running!

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  9. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    We do what we must

    Because we can.

  10. Re:150 years makes quite a difference by gardyloo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know, but you can bet there will be "bad car analogies" analogies, mentions of some hot chick and grits, and complains about moderators.

  11. I've done that. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What happens when you divide by zero on a calculator using a physical engine?

    I've done that.

    The particular calculator in question would spin madly, with the result digit dials working like a cross between an odometer and a clock movement, until you hit the button that aborts the process. (The abort apparently consisted of changing the divisor to a large number. It took close to a minute as the machine would do a trial subtraction, undo it, shift the register bar one to the left, and repeat until it got to the last digit.)

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  12. You can't necessarily go by version by Cryacin · · Score: 3, Funny

    For example:

    Windows XP
    Vista

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  13. Picture it by snikulin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here is the pic of the UK version.

  14. The login screen by Nimey · · Score: 5, Funny


        WELCOME TO THE BABBAGE ANALYTICAL TIMESHARING SERVICE

        PLEASE NOTE THAT THE INTEGRATOR IS CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE
        DUE TO THE WEEKLY GREASING SCHEDULE. WOULD ALL USERS KINDLY
        RETURN ANY UNUSED PLUGBOARDS, AS THE PROGRAMMING TEAM ARE
        RUNNING LOW. DIVISION UNIT 3 WILL BE OUT OF ACTION UNTIL
        THURSDAY DUE TO EMERGENCY COG REPLACEMENT - PLEASE ENSURE
        THAT YOUR PROGRAM DOES NOT ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE BY ZERO AS
        THIS CAN CAUSE SEVERE DAMAGE (INCLUDING SHAFT BREAKAGES).
    .
    .
    SYSTEM READY.
    ?

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  15. I think I speak for everyone when I ask... by ikono · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does it blend?

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  16. Guess that's why by Fnord666 · · Score: 4, Funny
    From the FA:

    Carol gives the example of multiplying 5 by successive numbers, such as 6, 7, 8. "In simple terms, the method of differences is based on the observation that if the work has already been done to multiply 5 by 5, [then] that work can be reused to multiple 5 by 7 with the addition of another 5 into the previous total," he writes.
    I guess that's why the author went into journalism instead of computers.
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  17. See it in action! by JoeCommodore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    See what one (difference engine #2) looks like running, impressive!

    This one is in mechano parts (Erector Set for us Americans)

    http://www.meccano.us/difference_engines/rde_2/index.html

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  18. Actual Information - GASP! by chmguy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm am one of the Docents for the Difference Engine #2, and although the team making it work is WAAAAY more competent to comment, lemme put out a few FACTS, at the risk of "flame wars of death"... The Engine is a single function calculator that can iterate the values of a 7th order polynomial approximation to an arbitrary mathematical function. After about an hour of VERY careful setup, any set of coefficients could be entered, allowing almost any function to realized. It uses a technique called "finite differences" that allows the calculation to be performed using only addition (and 10's compliment coefficients to represent negative numbers). Our working plan is to set it up to do a table of logarithms, much like Babbage's own table, produced well before he thought of Difference Engine #2. The polynomial approximation for logarithms is quite accurate over the space from 1.0 to 1.6, 6000 iterations of the Engine. (It takes four turns of the crank or about 6 sec. per iteration.)
    The calculation section has about 4,000 parts, and a very elaborate printer mechanism has another 4,000, and was designed to produce sterotype molds of a complete page of a book of tables.
    It is a WONDEROUS device to behold! There are 52 distinct stages in it's control graph (EXACTLY like a modern timing diagram, just vertical...) An elaborate nest of 14 cams control the complex sequence of events to do an iteration, which is !pipelined!. The sinuous ripple carry mechanisms on the back side are HYPNOTIC, as are the forward and backward movements of the intra-column sector gears.
    Avoid CHM on May 10, it's gonna be a madhouse! But this is pretty close to the top of the list of "1000 Geeky Things to See Before You Die", oh, and by the way, there's all the other ABSOLUTELY WAY COOL stuff at CHM, wanna see an Apple I signed by "the Woz"...
    YOU GOTTA SEE THIS! chmguy

  19. Re:Turing complete by stewartjm · · Score: 2, Funny

    Almost any machine can run that one:
    Stack overflow (core dumped)

  20. Re:We'll know about four years after it's complete by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Informative

    [But does it run linux?] We'll know about four years after it's completed - when it gets done with the boot-up

    If that's all you want out of the experience, run Vista.

  21. Re:We'll know about four years after it's complete by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Informative

    4 years to get Ada working?

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  22. Re:My god why?! by Jerry+Smith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I get the "nostalgia" and "historical interest" thing, but don't waste 5 tons of material doing it! If anything, miniaturize it. It'd be just as cool. Even better? Make an OpenGL version of it and turn it into a screensaver. Personally I'd think it's 5 tons of material well-spent. It was things like these that made me think "How does it work?" when I was a wee lad.
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  23. GIGO by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    a famous quote: "On two occasions I have been asked, "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."

    I remember reading that one of them was a congressman. If so, things haven't changed in 150 years.
  24. Negative. This is a DFSM by Theatetus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is possible using these materials and a potentially limitless but deterministic input source to make a universal Turing machine, but this device as designed and as it is not fully programmable (it was Ada Lovelace who pointed that fact out, along with a very early formation of the Church-Turing thesis when she commented in the margin that a suitably-designed engine could be alternately arithmetical or analytical depending on how the inputs and outputs were interpreted).

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  25. The more important question by martinw89 · · Score: 3, Funny

    But will it blend?

    Sorry, I couldn't resist (8 ton blender? Beowolf Total Blender cluster?)

  26. Re:150 years makes quite a difference by PCM2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Quite impressive that in 150 years we can do with less than a gram of silicon what they tried to do with tons of gears and cranks. Makes you wonder what they're gonna be doing in 150 years from now.

    Same thing they're doing right now, I expect: Decomposing.

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  27. gentoo by Shadow-isoHunt · · Score: 4, Funny

    And that's just getting the livecd up. We've still gotta compile everything - "Deep thought" was just throwing an error from make.

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  28. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Funny

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  29. Re:I want to know... by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Simple: it's circular.

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  30. How it works (it's not a general purpose computer) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Difference Engine is a specialized device which was designed to automate the calculation of tables of values of complex formulae. Such as trigonometric functions, logarithms, etc. The Difference Engine works by using a variant of the Taylor method to approximate complex functions using high order polynomials. It then calculates successive values of the polynomial function using the difference method. It's quite elegant in terms of making the most out of limited computing ability.

    Consider a simple polynomial like x^2 + 3*x. Now, take a few initial values of that function like so:

    f(0) = 0
    f(1) = 4
    f(2) = 10
    f(3) = 18
    f(4) = 28

    Now, take the difference between each value where x is increased by the same amount (equivalent to a crude approximation to the derivative of f):

    g(1) = f(1)-f(0) = 4
    g(2) = f(2)-f(1) = 6
    g(3) = f(3)-f(2) = 8
    g(4) = f(4)-f(3) = 10

    Now do the same with these differences (equivalent to taking the 2nd derivative):

    g(2) - g(1) = 2
    g(3) - g(2) = 2
    g(4) - g(3) = 2

    Now we see that the 2nd differences are all the same value, this is because this is a 2nd order polynomial. For a cubic polynomial it takes 3 sets of differences. Now, we can calculate the value of f for x=5 and higher values without the formula by adding the differences.

    g(5) = 2 + g(4) = 12

    f(5) = f(4) + g(5) = 28 + 12 = 40
    f(5) = 5^2 + 3*5 = 40

    etc.

    We can use exactly the same process to merely approximate functions based on a table of values, given we calculate the differences to a high enough order (i.e. produce a polynomial approximation of high enough order) to give reasonably accurate values. Meaning, taking differences as above to some nth degree from n initial input values and then calculating successive values has the effect of approximating that function with an nth degree polynomial.

    Babbage's Difference Engine No. 2 design is capable of calculating 7th order polynomials with 31 decimal digit numbers, which is sufficient to calculate trigonometric and logarithmic functions to very high precision. Using the Difference Engine one would need to manually calculate only 7 initial values, then use the Engine to automatically produce tables for the remainder of the values needed. Compared to the methods of the 19th century (where the term "computer" referred to a person given that job, not a device) this represented an enormous savings of labor, as well as an enormous increase in accuracy of the output, under the right conditions.

  31. Re:I want to know... by dbIII · · Score: 3, Funny
    Wrong - clearly not your area.

    Pi are squared :)

  32. Sounds like a trick question by Moraelin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually, it is at least possible that it was intended as a trick question. You know, one where if you say "yes" then you've just said "yep, I'm a con artist." Admittedly, it's a stupid one even as trick questions go, but still, there might be some purpose behind it.

    To put things into perspective Babbage got funding for one machine, never finished it, decided he's rather begin designing the version 2 model, asked for more funding, repeat ad nauseam. Pretty much it was _the_ original computing vapourware. Pretty soon he got no more funding, but that never stopped him from asking for more and hyping his unproven creation to the parliament.

    He also seems to have descended into a nerd-like bitterness, in which he took such questions out of context as proof that everyone else is a drooling idiot and that's why they don't see he's right. And in that he also included such questions as, basically, "well, what _can_ it do?" and "what's the business advantage for making one of these?" Stuff that you'd get asked by any business nowadays too. He took them as proof that his contemporary Englishmen were narrow minded and lacking in vision.

    It may seem obvious in retrospect that his design was right, but at the time it was everything except obvious. It was a _monumental_ expense with the economy and technology at that time, even compared to paying armies of people to calculate those by hand. And it was anything but proven. Noone knew if it would even work at all. Again, the first round of funding he got, produced nothing tangible.

    Also regarding the parliament at the time, they were not as obtuse as you (or Babbage) seem to think. They funded a lot of research, actually. The nautical clock, for example, was paid for by the parliament, and that was quite the iterative development. The first couple of versions not only were too inexact to be any use, but at least the first one didn't even compensate for the ship's rolling around. But nevertheless, that guy had _something_ working to show for his work, and kept getting more money to keep working. Babbage had nothing except his claims.

    Now before I sound too damning to Babbage, it wasn't only his fault. He got into a conflict with the company actually building it, and that was the chief reason why the V1 was never completed. But, still, seen from outside, he never had anything working to show, and even more damning he just unilaterally scrapped the design in the middle of the project and began designing an even more overengineered V2 instead.

    So, anyway, given that he was technically hyping vapourware, I can see a smart-arse member of the parliament trying to catch him with a trick question. Again, it _is_ a dumb one, but it's not the same class of dumb as actually thinking that a machine can magically guess the right answers when fed wrong data.

    (But then again, I see a ton of PHBs and businesses nowadays believing just that about electronic computers, so maybe it was just a dumb question after all.)

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  33. See it while you can-limited time offer by hcdejong · · Score: 2, Informative

    According to this article (which also contains more detail on building and shipping the Engine), the machine will be on display for 6 months, then it will be moved to Myhrvold's home. So if you want to see it, don't wait too long.

    (I found another article which claims the Engine will be at the museum for a year. The CHM website doesn't have definitive data.)

    I saw the one at the Science Museum a few years ago, and it's awesome. Well worth a trip.

  34. You also forgot ... by MindKata · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You also forgot the "I for one welcome etc.." quote. But then again, in this case, its brain would be so slow, we would all have died of old age, long before it would finally be able to think up its first great chess move, in how to take control of the Earth.

    Still, it would be EMP proof, so although its slow, its hard to stop with impressive high tech scifi looking energy weapons ... well apart from it stopping due to rust or a spanner in the works etc..

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