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2008 Google Summer of Code Highlights

andrewmin writes "SoC 2008 has begun, and with 175 organizations and 1125 students it looks better than ever before. Here's a quick run-down of a few programs that, if they are finished, will definitely be making their way onto your machine."

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  1. GRUB GUI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Adding a GUI to the upcoming GRUB 2 because its black and white terminal interface is scary? Doesn't GRUB already have a GUI? That pretty blue screen at bootup?

    1. Re:GRUB GUI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Blue screen at bootup?

      Must... resist... urge... to make... Windows BSOD.... joke... aaaaaaargh!

    2. Re:GRUB GUI? by Knuckles · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Editing menu.lst hardly qualifies as a GUI.

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    3. Re:GRUB GUI? by Z-MaxX · · Score: 5, Interesting
      The "Legacy" version of GRUB (latest release is 0.97), currently used by most Linux distributions, has been patched by various distros to support background images in a graphical console mode. However, there is no support in GRUB 2, where all GRUB development is currently taking place. I am going to add a basic GUI to GRUB that will surpass the patches for GRUB 0.9x in portability and flexibility. Once the graphical menu support is added (my GSoC'08 project), adding mouse support will be relatively straightforward... ;-) From http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-soc.html under "Fancy menu interface":

      This feature is really important for GRUB 2, because GRUB Legacy has been patched by third parties frequently, as the official version never support a graphical interface, but such an interface attracts more casual users. Support for a fancy menu - even better than an unofficial patch for GRUB Legacy - would attract more people to GRUB 2, thus this is critical in a long term to accelerate the development.
      I plan to make the code portable to non-x86 architectures (though at first VESA VBE 2.0 on PC architecture will be the only supported video driver). More details at: http://gibibit.com/grub-gsoc/proposal.html
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    4. Re:GRUB GUI? by gslavik · · Score: 5, Funny

      BTW, in case you didn't pick it up, I'm the student developing the GRUB GUI for GSoC'08... :-) stop reading slashdot and get to writing code!
  2. E17? by Doobian+Coedifier · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cross-platform is now officially the hottest thing for desktop environments. First, KDE announced that KDE 4 was being ported to Windows and OS X. Now, the lesser known Enlightenment project is doing the same thing. Student Dzmitry Mazouka is now porting the Ewl and Etk libraries to the Win32 platform. How about finishing Enlightenment 0.17? I've been waiting for almost 8 years now...
    1. Re:E17? by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 5, Funny

      Then get to it, damnit.

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    2. Re:E17? by dfedfe · · Score: 5, Funny
      Patience.

      It is this very attachment and craving that keeps you from attaining it.

    3. Re:E17? by CRCulver · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've been using the CVS for three years now and have encountered instability extremely rarely. I don't know if raster will ever actually make an official release, but e17 is the best window manager I've ever used even if it is still in a development limbo.

    4. Re:E17? by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Spot on, man. Everyone expresses this viewpoint with open-source software, but it's not very insightful. In fact, it's very trite. Not many of us are able to just get down and code something when we feel the need to have it.

      Moreover, it's a perfectly valid point to say that the developers should finish their software before worrying about porting it. The desire for cross-platform compatibility is good, but meaningless if your software is incomplete because of it.

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    5. Re:E17? by an.echte.trilingue · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The difference is that you are going to pay somebody to do those things. Enlightenment is done as a hobby, and it still manages to come up with some pretty cool stuff that works its way into somebody's code or maybe even a finished DE someday. However, complaining that unpaid hobbyists should abandon what they enjoy doing to in favor of pursuing your priorities is like asking the guy how lives next door who builds hotrods for fun to come and fix your toyota. If you want them to finish E17 that bad, either pay them to do it or do it yourself.

      Oh, and before I get that troll who says that this is the problem with open source, I would like to point out that the "hobby" development is not typical of open source software; most people who work on OSS get paid to do it (for example, by redhat, novell, mysql, sun, ibm, trolltech [now owned by nokia] etc.)

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    6. Re:E17? by dkf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sometimes I wonder whether open-source software should also recieve public funds, though I have to admit I can't think of any good way that could possibly be arranged... It happens already with some open-source software packages. Typically, when this is happening, it is because that software is also serving other purposes than being open-source (e.g. providing some key piece of software infrastructure that a government needs and which commercial providers don't offer yet). On the other hand, I'd hate for taxes to be the only way that OSS gets funded; if there's something I want doing a lot, I should be allowed to pay for it to be written. A mixed funding ecology (what we have now to a first approximation) is probably best.
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    7. Re:E17? by shish · · Score: 2, Informative

      One of the 20-odd libraries it uses reached 1.0 status last week \o/

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  3. 7 slots for DragonFlyBSD by 3seas · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/index.cgi/GoogleSoC2008

    DragonFly Projects

    Enhance dma

    * Max Lindner, mentored by Matthias Schmidt
    * See EnhanceDmaGSoC for more information

    Port DragonFly to the AMD64 architecture

    * Jordan Gordeev, mentored by Thomas E. Spanjaard
    * See AMD64GSoC for more information.

    RFC3542 support

    * Dashu Huang, mentored by Hasso Tepper
    * The standard application program interface (API) for TCP/IP applications is the "sockets" interface. Although this API was developed for Unix in the early 1980s, it has also been implemented on DragonFly BSD with support for IPv6 applications. Today, to fit new demands, the API standard that support IPv6 applications has experience some changes from RFC2292 to RFC3542. However, the DragonFly BSD operating system now only support RFC2292, and it don't support RFC3542 advanced sockets API, to make it catch up the change, we need to make it support RFC3542. To make DragonFly BSD support RFC3542. My work will research the codes of current IPv6 stack in DragonFly BSD and understand how it works. At the same time, I should understand some related RFC, and how other BSD's such as FreeBSD, openBSD, merged RFC3542. Through this way, I can figure out which part of the old IPv6 stack should be improved. Finally,I will update the old IPv6 stack to make it support RFC3542.

    Extend Multi-Processing (MP) support

    * Robert Luciani, mentored by Simon Schubert
    * Back in 2003 when DragonFly was born, the first subsystem to be implemented was the LWKT. The reduction in complexity achieved by using message passing (as opposed to a shared memory environment using locks) was undeniable. What was also "unlocked" though, was the potential for near linear performance scaling on multiple CPU systems. Unfortunately many kernel systems, such as the network stack, need to be modified to take advantage of this potential, since they are still encumbered by a legacy "Big Giant Lock". In this project I will remove the MP lock in important areas of the kernel that have a direct affect on the performance of popular programs such as PostgreSQL.

    Proportional share userland scheduling algorithm

    * Mayur Narayan Bhosle, mentored by Jeffrey Hsu
    * Proportional share algorithms like lottery scheduling, Stride scheduling algorithm guarantee proportional share of resources like (CPU) to a processes as per their requirement stated specified during the start. The traditional schedulers achieve fairness or resource allocation by adjusting priority, but the effect is observed over a long term. But instead in case of proportional share schedulers we observe the fairness of allocation over a bounded period of time when we adjust the requirement of resources dynamically.

    Anticipatory disk I/O scheduler

    * Nirmal Thacker, mentored by Simon Schubert
    * This project aims at developing an Anticipatory Disk I/O scheduler for DragonFlyBSD. An Anticipatory Disk I/O scheduler will ensure that an anticipation heuristic will nullify all possible deceptive idleness between consecutive disk accesses and at the same time try to maintain an overall good throughput. In the DragonFly BSD operating system it must also take into consideration the MP- safety factors.

    LiveCD with a DragonFly-specific X desktop

    * Louisa Luciani, mentored by Sascha Wildner
    * In this project I will integrate more functionality into the nrelease build system. The build will generate a persistent liveCD with Dragonfly specific features. It will be customized for recovery, demonstr

    1. Re:7 slots for DragonFlyBSD by Daengbo · · Score: 4, Informative

      I wrote up the SoC's projects which will probably end up in Gnome (and by extension, Ubuntu) about a month ago.
      http://www.ibeentoubuntu.com/2008/04/where-do-we-go-from-here-now-that-gnome.html

    2. Re:7 slots for DragonFlyBSD by idiotnot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thank you for pointing this out. TFA is fluff, and doesn't cover the real OS projects SoC really focuses on. The only things TFA lists that may affect me are the grub improvements, and maybe some of the file converters.

      But, DFBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, GNU/Hurd, etc., all have SoC projects that go towards making the OS better. A good example would be the new tmpfs for NetBSD, which has now been ported to FreeBSD.

  4. stop hating on mplayer by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since VLCs firefox plugin is incompatible with noscript, I've started using mplayer, and as its modular (unlike VLC) I can also throw almost anything at it (actually I can throw more at it as it handles realmedia too). As for interfaces well i personally think Kmplayer beats VLC hands down as a media player too.

    I also dont understand the need for a frontend to aptitude, apt + front end is just as powerful, its only dependency resolution that hasn't been well implemented in other front ends.

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    1. Re:stop hating on mplayer by kdekorte · · Score: 2, Informative

      Have you ever tried the updated version of mplayerplug-in?

      Gecko-mediaplayer (browser plugin) and gnome-mplayer (clean GTK GUI for mplayer that gecko-mediaplayer uses over dbus) really try and give the best browser plugin support for firefox on linux.

      You can find out more about them here: http://dekorte.homeip.net/download/

    2. Re:stop hating on mplayer by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 2, Informative

      I like them both. But to get back to the subject of browser plugins, while the mplayer plugin is miles ahead of VLC on UI friendliness, I have to give VLC top marks on performance.

      mplayer seems very conservative about pre-buffering before starting playback and doesn't seem to change anything when I try to adjust the buffer size in preferences. It doesn't always respond directly to commands (like play, or seeking in a stream), which often sets it to more buffering (even when it already seemed to have loaded). Whereas VLC tends to start playback pretty quickly (without running into buffer underruns).

      It is a shame, though, that there is literally no UI to speak of for the VLC plugin. Either the video is playing or you're looking at black window reading "(no video)".

  5. definitely be making their way onto your machine by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nope. I see nothing there that will be on my machine in the foreseeable future.

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  6. Server dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
  7. Pidgin projects are cool by i.of.the.storm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My personal favorites are the project to add Voice and Video to pidgin and the Pidgin theming project. http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/GSoC2008/VoiceAndVideo and http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/GSoC2008/ThemeImprovements . People always ask for these things and the developers don't have time to do things that they don't use, so they never get done. Hopefully these actually get done by the end of this summer.

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    1. Re:Pidgin projects are cool by Yogiz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      After the developers pissed a lot of people off, Pidgin was forked and among other things Funpidgin promises voice and video support as well. I think they'll pull it off before the Google guys.

    2. Re:Pidgin projects are cool by i.of.the.storm · · Score: 2, Informative

      Honestly, I think not. I've seen their stuff, and it's not exactly impressive to readd some features that Pidgin used to have. I emailed the developers about just releasing their features as pidgin plugins but I got a reply that they didn't know how to.

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    3. Re:Pidgin projects are cool by SD-Arcadia · · Score: 4, Interesting

      From the pidgin FAQ: "Why are file transfers so slow? MSN file transfer support is limited to the proxied version of file transfer support in the protocol. This means that the files are sent to MSN's servers, then the server sends the data to the other user. We don't know if or when we will ever support any of the peer-to-peer file transfer methods available in the MSN protocol." What would it take to add direct connection transfer support to Pidgin so I can actually send someone a file on MSN? Currently it maxes out around 4KB/s which is useless. I always wondered why this is not a priority.

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    4. Re:Pidgin projects are cool by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What would it take to add direct connection transfer support to Pidgin so I can actually send someone a file on MSN? Currently it maxes out around 4KB/s which is useless. I always wondered why this is not a priority.

      I imagine support for all closed, legacy formats is a pretty low priority. Why prioritize reverse engineering and optimizing less used features of an intentionally obfuscated format championed by someone trying to prevent the type of interoperability that is Pidgin's goal? Isn't it better for them to optimize file transfer over XMMP or the video and voice capabilities? I mean, if you want to transfer files with other users, there are plenty of other protocols that do work and where the Pidgin team doesn't have to work so hard only to have it intentionally broken by Microsoft at a later date. It is an inefficient use of their resources compared to working on core features using open protocols where they don't have to put in all that extra effort to overcome MS's antics.

  8. Re:definitely be making their way onto your machin by Vectronic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Agreed, the only thing that sparked any interest from that list was GRUB2, which isn't really even on the list, just some crappy fancy nonsense theme thing for it...

    Me and GRUB have never gotten along, but maybe me and GRUB2 will...

    Aside from that, that list is just a bunch of Gadgets/Widget/Nonsense... im not sure why the Editor/Poster just didnt do a write-up and link to http://code.google.com/soc/2008/ or something a little more diverse and interesting.

  9. Re:definitely be making their way onto your machin by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Until grub2 has a security module so that i can lock down what you can boot too, im happy with grub, even if grub2 looks nice.

    Hell i have 1 second time-out & hidden menu so i never see it anyway, grub doesn't need any nice interface as it shouldn't need to be seen other than when you have a problem in which case a nice UI just adds another thing to go wrong.

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  10. Dojo by moshez · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Dojo toolkit is going to get some love this SoC -- these things might be making their way into your machine even without you knowing it... Markup Previews, 3D effects and Drag&Drop form editor are all among the SoC projects this year.

  11. from the aptitude-gtk guy by GrAfFiT · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hi, I'm the Aptitude-gtk applicant.
    If you've used both Synaptic and Aptitude, you should have seen some differences :)
    The dependency resolution is one point, but it's not only that. The whole navigation in Aptitude is just much more efficient. Ever used Synaptic in a mixed-distribution install ? Say you want to install another version of a package and it has some different dependencies. Good luck navigating them in Synaptic. It's really not designed with that in mind.
    You can see the full application here and my development blog here .
    I warmly welcome any input on my project!

  12. at less than 2% by morrison · · Score: 4, Informative

    Kudos to the few mentioned that will get some extra attention from this, but it's worth noting that the coverage doesn't represent even 2% of the projects that will be going on. I'd even go so far to say as many of those listed aren't even some of the most impressive or realistic, just one person's sampling of a few they know about.

    Captain obvious points out that highlighting even just one project for half of the participating orgs would be about 88 projects and would still represent less than 8%. There's also no guarantee that the student will be successful on their project. About one in five students failed last year, so nothing is guaranteed regardless.

    My point? There is a LOT of cool stuff being worked on. Check the projects out for yourself at http://code.google.com/soc/2008/
    They're all listed. Show your support, get involved, help them succeed if you really care.

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  13. Get GRUB2 production ready first... by i_love_unix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Personally, I would prefer it if somebody would get GRUB 2 "production ready" first, instead of making fancy GUI menus for it.

    Maybe it's just me, but I'd really like the ability to boot from LVM and get proper EFI support (though not really an issue until EFI is in wide distribution for x86) without having to install an experimental package.

    It's a bootloader, guys. Functional first, form later.

    1. Re:Get GRUB2 production ready first... by Z-MaxX · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Many GRUB developers are working diligently toward a production ready version of GRUB 2. I am a new contributor to the GRUB project and the reason I chose this feature to implement is because it meshes with my areas of expertise and interest. Also, I feel that making GRUB 2 usable by everyone (let's face it, right now that means it has to be supported by Ubuntu) is a very important goal. In order for Ubuntu to adopt GRUB 2, it will have to not only be functionally complete, but they will want it to look nice too, as the rest of the OS will.

      No argument that it will be great to have GRUB 2 production ready. I am looking forward to it, and I hope I can contribute to other features after I complete the graphical menu system.

      Colin

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  14. Record Speech as Tomboy Notes by AmonEzhno · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1. Why the hell has it taken this long to get a Voice Recognition front end implemented?

    2. Who decided that tomboy notes is a worthy front end?!?! Who uses tomboy notes? Couldn't we have something that would allow us to use speech to text in a way which is useful?

    1. Re:Record Speech as Tomboy Notes by Daengbo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I blogged about this project last month, so I've had time to think about the "why"s of it. My conclusions were:
      1. Whether it's a Tomboy project or not is really irrelevant because the speech-to-text part will probably be a library, anyway.
      2. Putting the functionality in a note-taking application is probably a good choice because the software doesn't need to do real-time conversion. You record the note, close it, allow the software to convert to speech while you're working on stuff, and when you come back two days later to look at the idea you rattled off, the text is magically there. If the software is written correctly, it would even take your changes to the text as training forthe engine.

  15. Multithreading way more important. by etymxris · · Score: 2, Interesting

    These optimizations are nice, but leave out the most obvious and important improvement to the codecs that have yet to be made. Most processors sold nowadays are 2 or more cores. And smooth single-threaded processing of 1080p x264 is impossible on all but the absolute highest end processors. So the most important step is obvious multi-threading. There's a summer of code project for that too. I'm surprised the author of the article missed it.

    1. Re:Multithreading way more important. by Silverlancer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except that x264 is already the most efficient multithreaded encoder in the open source world. I don't see what you mean; there is no such thing as an x264 "video format"; its called H.264, and given that x264 is an encoder and not a decoder, it isn't exactly our job to do multithreading, given that we don't even have a decoder to implement such a thing in!

  16. Re:Cross-Platform? by gigne · · Score: 2, Informative

    They are not porting Plasma or the KDE UI to Windows/Mac, just the core libs to allow KDE programs to run in other operating systems. As KDE apps are QT based, they mostly use the native widgets, and full native look and feel is in the works for Mac.

    For you this means Windows looks like Windows, and Mac looks like Mac. The running application may be written for KDE, but this doesn't matter anymore.

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  17. What a waste by vux984 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    the grub gui, if its actually any good will eventually get installed on my desktop linux machines...

    The rest of the crud the article mentioned? Wow... what a completely uninspiring and underwhelming list.

    Oooh ... another rss solution? ooxml for abiword? bragging rights for game I've never heard of? Theming support for Pidgin? VLC for Windows CE? I can gaurantee you that I'm not going to EVER go out of my way to install ANY of that crud.

    Not that I have a problem with people working on its... its their time. But none of this is remotely 'must have' software.

  18. Re:definitely be making their way onto your machin by Z-MaxX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A nice UI may be more important for a Live CD install/rescue disk, for instance, where there are many choices, and you want it to simple to use and self-explanatory for any user booting the disk. Also, GRUB 2 uses dynamically loadable modules for virtually everything, so you can just not load the future 'gfxmenu' module if you like. Then it will consume no memory and will not be a possible source of problems.

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  19. Re:Cross-Platform? by aliquis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    KDE are way better than the UI in Windows and may be better than OS X ones aswell thought. I run OS X but could see myself use KDE. Especially with Amarok and Kopete.

  20. Re:GoC is (s)lacking.... by kjamez · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can't speak for Google on this, but I will say there is no bad about it. It is the job of the project to apply and coordinate all the happenings. I don't know if ReactOS even applied? If you are fond of ReactOS, I encourage you get involved, to contact the developers and to offer your time to apply for the SoC ... (I don't know if they did or not, just saying) ... Open Source really "works" when you actually get involved.

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  21. Re:Cross-Platform? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 2, Informative

    I agree that the core libs are a port, as there are a serious amount changes under the hood. Do you consider an application a port if no code changes occur and it builds and runs using the native widgets in an OS?

    I guess it doesn't matter much what I consider a port, but when users are accustomed to features working across all their applications on an OS, when they don't, well they throw that application into the same bin as OpenOffice and often look for better more "native" solutions; regardless of whether or not the application was originated on another OS.

    Recent versions of QT use the native widgets for Mac [1] without changes. There are always cases where an application taken from the Windows centric UI style (KDE, Win32) to OSX might need some extra code to make it look more OSXy, but QT at least tries to give you a leg up.

    Certainly they make an effort to make things closer to the experience with native applications, but they also try to reuse as much as possible, which often results in sort of a "least common denominator" effect. You end up with applications that can't use any features of any OS that are not also present in all the other OS's supported (or sometimes only features in one OS, making it like a port in this regard).

    I think there is a middle ground between the high expectations I set, and the rather grim picture painted by yourself.

    I didn't think I was painting a grim picture. I was just trying to be realistic. For now QT is Linux first, and everything else second. The functionality it affords reflects this. Most of the developers are on Linux and primarily targeting it and many don't even know about the features of OS X and Vista that they aren't supporting, because they don't use those OS's enough to be familiar with said features.

    They are a good step towards letting developers quickly target multiple platforms and keep an application up to date on all of them, but they are certainly not providing the same level of quality and functionality that truly native applications do. Perhaps in the future that will no longer be the case. In the mean time, well maybe I can recommend some apps to people who don't use Linux, but who might like apps that right now are Linux only.