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Manager Disables Web Server by Sneaking Away Xbox

nz17 writes "While the administrator is away the managers will play. A custom Web server went missing at an unnamed public university, but who was the culprit? The department manager. Thinking that the Linux Web server (which used a Microsoft Xbox for its hardware) was a normal game console, he snuck the device out of the server room and home for his son to play over the holiday weekend. The philosophy students who used the server for their class were not amused."

129 comments

  1. Philosophy students by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Funny

    What were they doing with it, sitting around asking 'what is the sound of 1 Xbox playing?' Philosophy kids don't actually DO anything, esp. on weekends, so whats all the outrage?

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    1. Re:Philosophy students by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

      Philosophy kids don't actually DO anything, esp. on weekends, so whats all the outrage?

      Umm, hello, they play the xbox. Without the "web server" they can't do that anymore.

    2. Re:Philosophy students by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      'what is the sound of 1 Xbox playing?' Segggggggggggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

    3. Re:Philosophy students by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This story is a regurgitation of the same story that appeared about a year ago.

    4. Re:Philosophy students by ch-chuck · · Score: 4, Funny

      whats all the outrage?

      We, the students of the university philosophical society demand that you do, or do not, return the Xbox webserver !

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    5. Re:Philosophy students by Raistlin77 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, it was 2 years, and even the link in the summary goes to that 2 year old story. -

    6. Re:Philosophy students by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      According to the Stoics, it never really belonged to them in the first place.

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    7. Re:Philosophy students by houstonbofh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They consider if the web server is actually down, or if they just perceive it to be down.

    8. Re:Philosophy students by Rick+Bentley · · Score: 1

      They were checking every now and then to see if the cat in the box was live or dead, in the meanwhile it remained in the superposition of two states...

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    9. Re:Philosophy students by uglyduckling · · Score: 4, Funny

      We demand that we may (or may not be) the philosophy students. We demand clearly-defined areas of doubt and uncertainty.

    10. Re:Philosophy students by The_Rook · · Score: 3, Funny

      the philosophy students demand that there may, or may not, be an xbox server.

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    11. Re:Philosophy students by Macgrrl · · Score: 2, Funny

      We demand clearly-defined areas of doubt and uncertainty.

      Well... it is a Microsoft product, so you get the uncertainty and doubt as a given with a side serve of fear...

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    12. Re:Philosophy students by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it really frustrating how people in technical fields often fail to realize how critical less technical fields are. I've been one of those technical people, and I'm partially to blame as well.

      Philosophers gave us the basis of the modern economy, the modern legal system, democracy, psychology, etc. Many of the criticial scientists and mathematicians throughout history have also been critical philosophers. Their philosophical and scientific works have tied together. "Soft" fields like philosophy, sociology, etc are soft precisely because their subject matter is still too complex for us to treat in a "hard" or precise way. Slowly, over time, as philosophers map the way in these nebulous fields for scientists, each area of human research becomes a kind of science. The philosophers are early pioneers. Some of the terrain they explore is so complex that it takes thousands of years to map and make progress with. That does not mean those fields are useless, it just means that the results of philosophy are harder to quantify.

      We always talk about how measuring lines of code, or bug counts does not tell you how good of a programmer someone is. It's the same with philosophy. Precise numerical measures are for extremely well understood fields like manufacturing. They tend to give inaccurate results when applied to more creative and complex tasks like programing, and even more inaccurate results when applied to extremely creative and complex tasks like philosophy and art.

      As a closing comment on my qualifications to say the above, I used to make $200K/year as a unix systems engineer on Wall St. I left that career to become a philosopher, because philosophy is more interesting and important to me, personally.

    13. Re:Philosophy students by BVis · · Score: 1

      That's easy for you to say, Mr. Former Wall-Street. The rest of us don't have the savings I'm sure you have by now, and have to make a living by doing something useful.

      That being said, here's some unsolicited advice for anyone considering majoring in Philosophy: The most important phrase you can learn is "Would you like fries with that." I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying our society doesn't appreciate thinking, and you should be prepared by setting your expectations appropriately.

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    14. Re:Philosophy students by lightboxx · · Score: 1

      Damn, There goes the neighborhood. but seriously now their just going to spend time talking about why he felt he needed to take it, and the impact on the rest of the world blah blah blah blah.

    15. Re:Philosophy students by hoggoth · · Score: 1

      > our society doesn't appreciate thinking

      Sure it does. And our society rewards each contribution appropriately.
      We reward good abstract thinking with a hefty dose of abstract appreciation.
      We reward money generating effort with money.

      Are you complaining that you choose to value abstract thought and are unhappy that those who choose to value money don't reward your abstract thought with their money?

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    16. Re:Philosophy students by uglyduckling · · Score: 1

      ...true, and that vague feeling of being personally violated in some non-specific way.

  2. The article is dated May 28, 2006 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And this is news how?

    1. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by Rurik · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think we need to start slashbombing the submitters of these articles. I doubt /. has a backlog of submissions two years old, so people need to stop submitting old crap to this site.

      We're looking at YOU, nz17

    2. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by xaxa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How do we ignore idle./. stories? I'd like to turn them off the same way I can turn off Apple stories (for instance).

    3. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by somersault · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Since this is the idle channel and I keep seeing your name/ID popping up I'd like to say how cool I think it is :p I wonder if xa maps to 988 in any way. Anyway, I thought you could specify how important stories from different sections are to you? For example for me the gaming stories show the title but not the summary. I can't even remember what the settings were like when I did that, they may have made them more comprehensive by now.

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    4. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by xaxa · · Score: 1

      xaxa/988988 is complete fluke, I didn't notice it myself until someone (possibly you?) pointed it out.

      I had a look at the settings, you can specify how important you think stories from each section are, except idle. (The settings are on http://slashdot.org/help -- choose 'Sections'.) :)

    5. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't. Malda is still trying to turn this site into Digg, whether you want it to be or not. Guranteed this crap will be showing up for a good, long while, and you won't have any choice in the matter.

    6. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by brianosaurus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      $ grep slashdot /etc/hosts
      127.0.0.1 idle.slashdot.org
      $

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    7. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by somersault · · Score: 1

      Probably wasn't me, though I do have a weird fascination with the user IDs :p I can't help but think that those with cooler IDs tend to stick around longer, that may just be because I only notice the interesting ones though. It gets even more interesting when people use numbers for their name too. Someone took the username 24601 already, I don't think I've seen the actual user ID 24601 being used though.

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    8. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by Khyber · · Score: 3, Informative

      You must be new here. Old shit on the weekends is the norm for this site.

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    9. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by leamanc · · Score: 4, Funny

      How did you post here then? Running a local cached copy of idle.slashdot.org? :-)

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    10. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      The editors, if they notice the date at all, are often suckered by this trick of some submitters of using an article with today's date, several years ago.

    11. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by Raistlin77 · · Score: 1

      Except today's date is May 26, 2008, not May 28.

    12. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by Trahald · · Score: 1

      I agree. Slashdot shouldn't even try to compete with Digg. Digg is like the Jerry Springer show - very popular and totally devoid of meaning. I've noticed Slashdot seems to have lost some readership to Digg. Thats ok. We perfer quality to quantity.

    13. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but even then someone was just repeating an urban legend. This never happened.

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    14. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that any Post involving a time machine is newsworthy.

    15. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by garett_spencley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Won't take the story off the main page though. Will just prevent you from being able to (successfully) click on the Read More link.

      I don't mind Idle but I agree that there should be a way to filter it from the main page like all the other sections. Seems absolutely ridiculous that there isn't.

    16. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      Seems just as ridiculous, though, that someone would go out of their way to go into an Idle story to whine about it.

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    17. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by Eponymous+Bastard · · Score: 2, Informative

      What? You don't have GreaseMonkey installed?

    18. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by carlzum · · Score: 1

      Even if the submitter was trying to fool the editors it wasn't a very convincing trick. The date appears clear-as-day above the article's headline. The submitter could have just as easily missed the year of the article, but I'd fault the editor for the miss.

    19. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 1

      No kidding. Had this happened, someone would know by now where it happened. Anyone who has been on the web for any amount of time should know that vague stories are usually falsies.

    20. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Except today's date is May 26, 2008, not May 28.

      It was 27th where I live.

    21. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Even if the submitter was trying to fool the editors it wasn't a very convincing trick. The date appears clear-as-day above the article's headline. The submitter could have just as easily missed the year of the article, but I'd fault the editor for the miss.

      It convinced the editors. Of course the date is "clear as day" to anyne who reads it, which the editors apparently hardly ever do. But I'm sure it was noticed by and deliberately chosen by the submitter, using a date so close to today. How could they have found their way to a 2-year-old article without knowing they were looking at an archive?

    22. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      What is all this porn doing on idle.slashdot.org?

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    23. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by garett_spencley · · Score: 1

      Why ?

      What better way to let Taco and the rest of the /. crew know how we feel. I suppose we could e-mail them directly but this is a community. This way others can chime in and comments can get modded up / down etc.

    24. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by nz17 · · Score: 1

      Here's a newsflash, Bucko: I didn't submit this to Slashdot Idle, I submitted this to the IT section under the "It's funny, laugh." topic. If you guys have something better I'd rather read it, so please submit it to Slashdot and have it get promoted or voted up to the front page.

      And for the other posters talking about how this is an old story posted on a different site two years later, I did not know that when I submitted it. I merely saw it as highly ranking on Digg's Technology section and thought the Slashdot crowd would enjoy this "Oh those unlearned managers!" type of story. If it is funny or otherwise worth reading, why should anyone care how old it is?

      And if you are wondering, this submission did not get voted up through Firehouse, an editor saw it and promoted it the front page within twelve minutes of me submitting it. I thank him for that, but if you have a problem with it, take your problem up with CmdrTaco since he A-OK'd it.

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    25. Re:The article is dated May 28, 2006 by darkpurpleblob · · Score: 1

      This script of mine does the trick :)

  3. Great Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Was a great story when it came out in 2006!

  4. Oooold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I heard this one way back in 2004. Old story is old.

    1. Re:Oooold by zappepcs · · Score: 4, Funny

      And Aesop says the lesson of the story is: If it's not yours, leave it the FUCK alone already! If you don't, they will write about how stupid you are for years to come.

    2. Re:Oooold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah I've seen that one in some scripture recovered by a 13th century monastery...

  5. OLD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OLD news

    1. Re:OLD by LingNoi · · Score: 1

      1) Steal old article from the worsethenfailure website
      2) Submit said story to slashdot
      3) ???
      4) Profit!!!

    2. Re:OLD by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny
      I know! Let's do something more fun.

      Let's post some Scientology documents!

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    3. Re:OLD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Xenu's freenet site:

      http://127.0.0.1:8888/USK@3csXsCCJHQGnOkoT-bIDk6rTq1Z3eAKOElUlW-dtI2o,4M-s6pt95sFNx6GwTQw-JObrhDmsqk6DNDGjybnhapM,AQACAAE/xenusden/2/

  6. Linux on Xbox by noz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Another reason to run Windows servers.

    1. Re:Linux on Xbox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What - because it takes a small army to move one?

    2. Re:Linux on Xbox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why because nobody wants a windows server ?

    3. Re:Linux on Xbox by smchris · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Since it's on Windows IT Pro, I assume that is the intended tone. "Business don't try anything innovative like those stupid, penny-pinching colleges."

  7. Please, Please Stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No more stupid stories, please.

    1. Re:Please, Please Stop by Bryan+Ischo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm afraid you're not going to get your wish. I had an email discussion with CmdrTaco on this subject last summer. He basically admitted that during the 'lull time' of U.S. summer, they have to scrape around for articles to post because summer time means far fewer cool university publications, and businesses release fewer products and stuff during summer as well.

      I specifically complained about kdawson and the drivel that he posts but CmdrTaco defended him by saying that he (CmdrTaco) though that he (kdawson) did 'a pretty good job' as an editor.

      Really, at that point, I realized that there is nothing that anyone can do. I mean, if you can defend kdawson's editing and story submission quality, then I guess you can defend anything.

      I don't know how long the average user lasts on Slashdot before getting fed up and moving on; the first 5 years I read Slashdot it steadily improved in quality but the last 5 years have been all downhill. I'm really starting to reach my limit of tolerance for it. Many days I say to myself, "that's it, I'm not reading Slashdot at all anymore", but old habits die hard and I keep coming back.

    2. Re:Please, Please Stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What I can't understand is how people take a boring article on /. so goddamn personal.

      You are not entitled to anything. If you think it's boring, don't waste your time on it. It is just that simple.

      This is really the same as "if you don't like what's on right now, change the channel". Don't spend your time crying like a child in the forums about how you want everything to be a certain way. Just fuck off and read the next article.

      Christ you people are sad. Go play on digg where that crybaby shit is the norm.

    3. Re:Please, Please Stop by mikael · · Score: 1

      Summer tends to be the conference season - SIGGRAPH etc...

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    4. Re:Please, Please Stop by Drenaran · · Score: 1

      True enough, if only it were possible for people to filter content themselves. You know, but some sort of thought process - unfortunately that is not the case, without some form of scripting all we can do is read Slashdot beginning to end, good or bad.

    5. Re:Please, Please Stop by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I'm afraid you're not going to get your wish. I had an email discussion with CmdrTaco on this subject last summer.

      I used to send corrections to them -- typos, dupes, factual errors, and such. About half the time they did then fix them. But Taco was very bitchy and unappreciative about it. I realised I was just being an unpaid proofreader for lazy jerks who didn't give a shit, so I gave up. Now I just ignore their errors or snark about them in the comments.

      The comment moderation is the thing that makes the site work, so interesting comments float up. But they failed to take the next step, allowing moderation of the articles themselves so crappy articles can be filtered out. (WTF is it with the tags that have been in beta for a year or so -- how do they expect anyone to take it seriously when they don't implement them in any real way?)

      Of course, if they had editors who 1) read the articles and 2) spent 5 minutes checking them before posting, the site would not be such an embarrassment.

    6. Re:Please, Please Stop by Mista2 · · Score: 1

      Easy to not view these stories, don't click on the link and don't post a comment. Damn, I wish I had followed my own advice on this one.

    7. Re:Please, Please Stop by Bryan+Ischo · · Score: 1

      Yeah I know. The sequence of these comments is pretty predictable.

      Whenever there is a stupid Slashdot story, someone always posts about how stupid it is.

      And whenever someone posts about how frustrated they are that Slashdot is posting more and more stupid stories, there is always someone that responds that 'you don't have to read them'.

      But is it really that non-obvious that Slashdot would be more enjoyable and worthwhile if the signal to noise ratio was higher? And is it really that hard to believe that some people like myself read Slashdot at least once per day and would really appreciate not having to wade through crap to get to the good stuff?

      Oh and yeah, I know. Nobody forces me to read Slashdot. Nobody forces me to read any particular story. Nobody forces me to walk out my front door either, but that doesn't mean that I can't complain if someone fills my street with shit.

    8. Re:Please, Please Stop by rastos1 · · Score: 1

      if only it were possible for people to filter content themselves.

    9. Re:Please, Please Stop by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1
      The thing is, both sides have valid points.

      Sure, there's no reason why someone should read an Idle story if they don't want to. But on the exact same hand, there's no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to filter them. It's Weeb 2.0 and all that, isn't it?

    10. Re:Please, Please Stop by Bryan+Ischo · · Score: 1

      Are you saying there is some easy way to filter bad articles from Slashdot? That is great news. Can you give me a pointer to some documentation on how to accomplish this?

      Hm, I just had an idea. Someone should implement some kind of browser plugin or something that presents a 'score this article' box alongside all Slashdot stories. Then it could use the combined score that everyone has given the article to decide which ones to filter out as crap. If only I had the web development skills to make that happen, instead I'm stuck with a C++ application programming background and would have no idea where to even start ...

    11. Re:Please, Please Stop by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1
      That is a good idea, I pity the fool who decides to host the rating server. It's bad enough when a server gets hit with a metric Slashdot of traffic for one article. Can you imagine having that happen every time an article is posted?

      Sure, it would be a reduced load-- only the people who use the plugin, and only rating traffic. But still, you'd need some powerful server to handle it. Almost as powerful as, say, the Slashdot servers. And since those servers are powerful enough, why not have them run the code anyways? In fact, they could get it all done in one http request if they bundle the plug-in into the main code.

      They could call it a feature!

  8. Guess who will be fired for that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    1 - The manager, for messing with something he's not qualified to touch, but he's the boss.
    2 - The administrator, because he's not the boss.

    To be fair, the administrator shouldn't have used a game console to host a university web server, or at least he should have put clear signs of what that piece of hardware function was, but I'm pretty sure the manager should be accounted too, for entering a production data center and removing a piece of hardware.

    1. Re:Guess who will be fired for that by Drgnkght · · Score: 1

      If this actually happened (sometime back in 2006...) the manager could have been in trouble. Theft is theft. Even if it belonged to one of the admins and not the university, it obviously wasn't the manager's. He took it assuming that it wouldn't be noticed before he could return it (if ever), or that the admin wouldn't complain for fear of being fired for "stealing time", i.e. playing xbox while on the job.

      As for the admin, it doesn't sound like he was the one who set this up, he was just the only one left who still knew what it did. Though since he was the one maintaining the software, he probably should have labeled it. The fact that he didn't doesn't excuse the manager's blatant misuse of university resources for personal gain.

      If it was me I'd have fired the manager. I wouldn't be able to trust him any longer.

  9. Holiday Qualitay by TheRedSeven · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ...is low as usual--a two-year old article, posted to Idle, makes the front page.

    At least this line actually made me laugh:

    excrement encountered the rotary cooling device
  10. 2006 just called, they want their X-Boxes back by naz404 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    wow. talk about slow news.

    This articles is waaay back from May 28, 2006.

  11. *Sigh* by lazyeye · · Score: 1

    It didn't surprise me when I saw this 2-year-old news item on Digg yesterday, but here? Sheesh...

    1. Re:*Sigh* by Liancourt+Rocks · · Score: 1

      Especially since I'm pretty sure I read about it on /. the first time round :)

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  12. Xbox? by gall0ws · · Score: 1

    Is the xbox cheaper than the old celeron in the basement?

    Btw: stuff that matters, duh.

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  13. Umm, this was an article from TWO YEARS AGO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does Slashdot post things that are two years old as news? Does anyone RTFA?

  14. Aaaagghhh! Make it stop! by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Keep the damn idle OFF the front page! At the VERY least, let me block it!

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    1. Re:Aaaagghhh! Make it stop! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Mod parent up. Idle needs to GTFO the front page.

    2. Re:Aaaagghhh! Make it stop! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone mod this guy up. It won't have an effect of course, Malda and his crew couldn't give less of a shit about what Slashdot readers think if he had his asshole stapled shut, but take the fucking Idle garbage off the front page already. If I wanted to see Digg or Reddit I would be GOING to Digg or Reddit...in fact at this rate that's just what I might do.

      May 25, 2008 - the day Slashdot finally jumped the shark

    3. Re:Aaaagghhh! Make it stop! by ZorinLynx · · Score: 1, Insightful

      This story was amusing! Why is everyone bitching about it?

      Gods, people, get a grip. If a story doesn't interest you, DON'T FREAKING CLICK ON IT. Duhh. It's not rocket science.

      This is the same attitude that people have when they want to ban/censor TV shows and video games they don't like.

      If you don't like it, ignore it.

    4. Re:Aaaagghhh! Make it stop! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This story was amusing! Why is everyone bitching about it? First, it's two freaking years old. Second, I've never seen an idle article worth reading. It's crap that that doesn't belong on the front page. Slashdot's for nerds, not morons like you.

    5. Re:Aaaagghhh! Make it stop! by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I can't block it off the front page. It's a spam bucket taking up valuable space. It's not on the list of things I CAN block. Make it an option, and I'll keep quiet. One of the things that made the site better than most was the lack of garbage like this. Now it's just becoming some cutesy teenybopper site. Just you watch the kind of people this will attract as the tech articles drift off into the background. It's already happening. And the look of the idle page is positively ghastly. The pink ponies look better than this. Tell you what, I won't go to or comment on any more idle pages that pop up and just fire off a nasty letter to the editor for what it's worth. For those of you that are with me on this, you can help by not renewing your subscriptions. This is a true sign of deterioration and dumbing down of Slashdot. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted. Bummer to see it end this way. Now, excuse me. I have to go catch up on my Y&R tapes.

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    6. Re:Aaaagghhh! Make it stop! by Neko-kun · · Score: 1

      If you don't like it, ignore it.

      If I had to do that, how would that make Slashdot any different from digg?

    7. Re:Aaaagghhh! Make it stop! by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Funny

      (Score:0, Offtopic)

      Oh jeeze! Modded by an idle worshiper. Go back to facebook, or wherever the hell you came from. We don't want you in our sandbox.

      Slashdot is being AOLed. It's worse than death

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  15. this is what they should have used by FudRucker · · Score: 1
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  16. Reminds me of the old saying... by Noryungi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Sure, you have got a PhD. Just don't touch anything".

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  17. A old desktop likey is faster then the x-box by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So why can't they just use one for the sever?

    1. Re:A old desktop likey is faster then the x-box by darkcmd · · Score: 1

      Possibly because they didn't want to?

    2. Re:A old desktop likey is faster then the x-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that this story is 2 years old, maybe they didn't have an old desktop available that was more powerful han he Xbox or maybe they had a spare Xbox and didn't need anything more powerful.

  18. Wrong type of news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    News for nerds, stuff that matters.
     
    You'll notice that it doesn't say, "News for people with ten-second attention spans, inconsequential bullshit from two years ago."

  19. XBox Server... WTF? by Alphasite · · Score: 2

    Why the hell was the server running on an Xbox?

    I mean, it might be a funny thing, a cool home-made project or a public internet demostration but serously.. running an university server on an XBox? WTH were they thinking? [ironic]I guess the university doesn't get enough founds to buy a proper server so teachers have to take its personal entertainment servers to work or otherwise they can have a server for their classes.[/ironic]

    Guess what? The manager should be awarded for discovering a critical security risk (surely what he was intending to demostrate in the first place :P)

    1. Re:XBox Server... WTF? by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have to agree. What the heck are they doing using an XBOX as their web server. Why not just plug the coffee machine in too so you can at least run Java. Doh.

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    2. Re:XBox Server... WTF? by lpzie · · Score: 0

      an university server

      A/an is based on sound, not letter. You'd probably put "a" infront of "herb" too.

    3. Re:XBox Server... WTF? by Alphasite · · Score: 1

      I always mess up with that so thanks for the explanation (I'm Spanish but I'll try to remember).

  20. My question is.... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    ...why the department manager didn't confiscate this XBox as contraband.

    Seriously, what's a game console doing in the server room? There are no other alternatives? No leftover hardware (PIII-almost-anything, P4-anythinbg at-all, Athlon-ditto) more than capable of doing the job?

    The article was replete with references to the lack of respect management had for the proletariat IT staff, blahblahblahblahblah. Feh.

    Labeling equipment in the server room is crucial. How about a decent label if, for no other reason, after a fire or some other event, you can contact the functional owner(s) and inform them of the survival or demise of their precious server.

    -ps: this isn't one of those XBoxen that gets red rings so often, is it? Hopefully it would be really more reliable than the 'old' Dell P4 they probably snuck away to run their 'real' web server...

    There is more than one thing wrong in this story.

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    1. Re:My question is.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know nothing of server administration or Xboxes. Please leave my /..

    2. Re:My question is.... by menace3society · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My guess would be that years ago some CS people got a small grant to buy an Xbox and put Linux on it, as a sort of exercise in hacking. It's all well an exciting the first time you do it, but afterwards all you've got is another Linux server, only in an XBox case. So they put it in a server room, set it up to host the philosophy department's webpage, and forgot about it.

      What bugs me the most is that someone who is an IT department manager saw something in the server room that was plugged in, on the network, and turned on, and decided to turn it off and disconnect it without so much as asking someone.

      Every time I start thinking that the rivalry between techies and suits in IT is overstated, I hear about something like this.

    3. Re:My question is.... by HomerNet · · Score: 1

      Seriously, what's a game console doing in the server room? There are no other alternatives? No leftover hardware (PIII-almost-anything, P4-anythinbg at-all, Athlon-ditto) more than capable of doing the job?


      Because it's cheap, and readily available, and widely popular. If you don't care what the box itself looks like, a computer is a computer is a computer and if the admin of that particular boxen decided to use cheap, readily available, and widely supported hardware to run their server on, that's their decision.

      The article was replete with references to the lack of respect management had for the proletariat IT staff, blahblahblahblahblah. Feh.

      Labeling equipment in the server room is crucial. How about a decent label if, for no other reason, after a fire or some other event, you can contact the functional owner(s) and inform them of the survival or demise of their precious server.


      You mean like this? Seriously, how many large scale environments have you dealt with? Or administrators? Or users? Or people? If it'd been a particularly nice "beige box" with more blinkin-lights than usual it would have presented theft temptation for a sticky fingered moron to lift it.
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    4. Re:My question is.... by multisync · · Score: 1

      What bugs me the most is that someone who is an IT department manager w something in the server room that was plugged in, on the network, and turned on, and decided to turn it off and disconnect it without so much as asking someone.


      That's why this story just doesn't ring true. The article says "The manager had thought the X-Box was just a games console that the IT departments staff used for recreation when it got quiet. Noticing that the X-Box hadn't been moved from the server room for some time and that his son was going to be at home on school holidays for the next two weeks, the manager decided to take the X-Box home so that his son would have something to entertain himself with."

      As you point out, he would have had to unplug at least a network and power cable to remove it. It's not like it was sitting unused on a shelf, or it couldn't have been serving web pages.

      I know people will do some stupid things, but my bs detecter tells me it's one of those urban legends.
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    5. Re:My question is.... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      In my current environment (fortune 50) no machine can be even brought into any of the datacenters (and ours are on the small side) without prior permission, full identification, and labeling for owner, business unit, name assigned, and emergency constacts (2 or more 24-7-365 no matter the actual support hours permitted). Hardware need not be new, but it cannot be anything unapproved.

      This is not my first gig in a strict environment. Classified military systems are more restrictive, with one site I was on having 'bed check' daily to be sure static hardware was present and accounted for.

      Stories of classified data on any Govt PCs throws me. Not long ago, I would be answering questions from armed officers if I lost a piece of hardware. Well, maybe a few years ago.

      I've also done some work for universities. Not at all the same attitude. This story doesn't surprise me totally, but there are some universities that value reliability, availability, and service. They wouldn't let anyone just walk out with hardware without either challenging them, or noting it in a log

      Still pretty dumb, this incident.

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    6. Re:My question is.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know people will do some stupid things, but my bs detecter tells me it's one of those urban legends.
      You obviously need to be exposed to middle-management in the public sector, or at Fortune 50 companies.

      I've seen middle-management "borrow" equipment and not return it for months.

      In one instance the equipment was being used by a team who would be working over the weekend, in crunch mode, because the project that was due to finish the next week. The project didn't finish on time... and the manager didn't return the hardware.

      Zero repurcussions hit the manager (in no small part because he didn't own up to taking the equipment until it was returned - months later), but the entire team got to waste even more time while being berated for missing their deadline.

      This is the kind of competence that exists in middle management.
    7. Re:My question is.... by menace3society · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the least believable part about it is that he admitted doing it. I have a feeling that if this were an urban legend, there would be no 'I was just taking it home for my kid for the holiday' line to wiggle out of what was intended to be permanent theft.

      It's shit like this that makes me glad I don't work in IT.

    8. Re:My question is.... by Arimus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I know people will do some stupid things, but my bs detecter tells me it's one of those urban legends.

      If only... A long while back I was working as a programmer with 3 days in the office and 2 at home. One day while working at home I noticed our CM system had dropped off the face of the earth...

      Drove into work and found that a manager who was using the table in the corner of our lab had decided the server was too noisy while he was trying to work and unplugged it.

      And before people say why wasn't in a server room, the fact it was in our secure lab and was part of the lab development lan and not the wider 'corporate' lan meant it was fine where it was (it had UPS installed, tape backup, multiple powersupplies - the bloody manager unplugged the power leads from all 3 power supplies....)
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  21. Kudos to the admin by Goalie_Ca · · Score: 4, Funny

    He did what no philosophy student could. He proved that the box exists!

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  22. WTF - An X-BOX?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    There's no way that was cost effective, unless someone pulled it out of the trash. A generic "white" box could easily be had for under $200, and would be far more suitable for a server.

    The admin got what he deserved. The IT Manager was right to pull that piece of crap out of the rack.

    It would have been worse if it were an XBox 360. We all know how friggin' reliable they have been.

    The admin is no hero here. He was a stupid fool from the start.

    1. Re:WTF - An X-BOX?! by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      A generic "white" box could easily be had for under $200 And you can buy an Xbox for $50 from someone that just upgraded to an X-Box 360. Chances are this was a donation to the school (tax deductable). I don't imagine the philosophy department gets a lot of funding for hardware, so they'll use whatever they can get for free.
    2. Re:WTF - An X-BOX?! by hiruhl · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dean, to the computer science department: "Why do I always have to give you guys so much money, for software licenses and expensive hardware and stuff? Why couldn't you be like the math department - all they need is money for pencils, paper and waste-paper baskets. Or even better, like the philosophy department. All they need are pencils and paper."

  23. philosophy students were not amused by frovingslosh · · Score: 1
    Perhaps they should have been more philosophical about it.

    But at least this will give them a chance to talk to the media, where they can work in the complaint that no one seems to want to hire philosophy students (the only know job seems to become philosophy teachers).

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    1. Re:philosophy students were not amused by pjt33 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nonsense. There's plenty of work for philosophy students in retail.

  24. Not Amused? by EdIII · · Score: 1

    I guess those Philosophy students never heard the saying, "Shit Happens, Get a Helmet".

  25. I can see him running around and telling everyone: by The+Creator · · Score: 1

    "Guys i've discovered a critical security risk!!"

    "What is it then?"

    "ME!!!!"

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  26. Fucking Digg submissions by Khyber · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This was on digg TWO days before posting here. If you guys can't keep your content original, I suggest you make way for somebody that can, Taco.

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    1. Re:Fucking Digg submissions by ChowRiit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Who cares what's been or not been on Digg? I read slashdot for my tech news, if they started only publishing stories that hadn't been published anywhere else, we wouldn't get much news...

      Now, a 2 year old Idle story being forced onto everyone's front page, that's a better thing to moan about...

    2. Re:Fucking Digg submissions by QX-Mat · · Score: 1

      its true, I find the digg front page easier than the slashdot search bar

  27. Now I'm damn sure..... by 3seas · · Score: 1

    ... there is a philosophy lesson in all this .... somewhere...

    1. Re:Now I'm damn sure..... by JCSoRocks · · Score: 1

      No, it's actually just an English lesson - "snuck" is not a real freaking word and the editor should have used "sneaked". Although... I suppose there could be a deeper meaning... but this is Idle and no here really cares about the content anyway :P

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  28. fairy tales by nguy · · Score: 1

    Instead of playing on the Xbox with his son, he should perhaps read him some fairy tales.

    Many fairy tales emphasize the importance of not messing with things you don't understand and not taking other people's possessions.

    (Here's another hint from the fairy tales: if the Xbox doesn't turn into a beautiful princess after the first kiss, stop kissing it. I don't know what it means, but it seemed relevant.)

    1. Re:fairy tales by Culture20 · · Score: 1
      (Here's another hint from the fairy tales: if the Xbox doesn't turn into a beautiful princess after the first kiss, stop kissing it. I don't know what it means, but it seemed relevant.)

      Peter: So you understand all these gifts were supposed to be for my family. It was just some crazy mix-up.

      Hick Mother: Kill 'em.

      Hick Father: [Pumps shotgun]

      Peter: No, no, no. It's true. You see, that remote control cow was for my son. And those barrettes were for my daughter. And, uh.... Hey, where's my VCR?

      Hick Child 1: Dang it, Buck. It's my turn to use the sex box!

      Buck: It's my sex box! And her name is "Sony."

  29. Hard to believe by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    I work at a university, and while money is often tight it's not THIS tight. Their "IT staff" sounds like its comprised of a bunch of little boys. Who'd choose to run an official department service off an Xbox? Even if the "IT staff" are kids - if the department can afford paying them even minimum wage, it can easily afford an inexpensive computer/server.

    If this is true, it sounds more like a bunch of kids playing at IT. It's not just the use of the Xbox; but they also apparently didn't tell anyone which box was the web server. How could you not label a server?

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  30. What? No MS slag comments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You guys are slacking. Not a single snarky comment "proving" how this is MS fault somehow?

  31. Sets font by Plug · · Score: 1

    Why does idle define Arial as a default font? Slashdot has, for years, just defined sans-serif, and respected what the browser has set for it.

  32. coolest slashdot story ever by mehemiah · · Score: 1

    serves him right

  33. Old news is new news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Way to bring up a story from 2006.

  34. Slashdot is getting worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like the week old articles from Popular Mechanics too. Every month a bunch of blog entries inspired by PM articles (and I'm sure other quality magazines) get posted here. It is pretty frustrating reading a quality magazine, then... a blog version. Then I can debate with a bunch of tards that didn't read either one, and don't comprehend the topic.

    I don't know why I come here anymore. It might be because I like writing, and you dumb assholes make me feel like Ernest Fucking Hemingway. I swear that is the only thing I get out of this.

    You should all watch the news, or get some good magazine subscriptions. Read about the industry you work in, or business in general, or just read a damned book once in a while. You'll learn FAR more about real world IT, and spend less time looking at advertising if you'd all switch from /. to damned trade journals.

  35. Story is fake, as well as old by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
    Look at TFA: it's in a column called "Hyperbole, Embellishment, and Sys Admins". Other articles in this section include A report from a north pole sysadmin about Santa Claus' data centre. These are literally FAIRY TALES. As for the X-Box story, no names, dates, institutions named. And consider a manager who could know how to pull the X-Box out of the rack, unplug the networking, would know enough to realise that it was not set up as a game machine, but a server. What manager would be so insane as to risk his job for stealing equipment from a server room? And if his son doesn't have an X-Box, where was he going to get the games to play on this machine? Warez? If the manager has already stolen the hardware, I suppose he wouldn't hesitate to steal the software too.

    The stoy is fake, and for Slashdot editors to present it as real just makes them look even dumber than usual.

    1. Re:Story is fake, as well as old by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      You can rent games.

      But yeah - the manager didn't know who owned the XBox, but surely he would assume that a toy used for breaks was owned by one of the IT guys.

      If there is a real story, it's more likely to be some guy installed Linux on an XBox. Someone figured that they might as well use that for something. A manager asked why they had an XBox in the server room. But that would make a dull story wouldn't it?

  36. good thing you're anon by begbiezen · · Score: 0

    because your ignorance overflows like liquid chocolate.

  37. clever by begbiezen · · Score: 0

    is that original??
    funny

  38. Outrage? by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't they have been be more philosophical about it?

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