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Machine Prints 3D Copies Of Itself

TaeKwonDood writes "Automated machines have been around for decades. They have basically been dumb devices that do simple assembly tasks. But RepRap takes that a step further because, instead of assembling pre-fabricated parts, it creates 3-D objects by printing them — squirting molten plastic in layers — and then building them up as the plastic solidifies. It works on coat hooks, door handles and now it can even make working copies ... of itself. The miracle of additive fabrication, coming soon to a robotic overlord near you."

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  1. I... by __aardcx5948 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... for one, welcomes our new self-replicating copy machine overlods.

    1. Re:I... by Gerzel · · Score: 5, Informative

      It can't even print itself as it still requires non-printed parts.

    2. Re:I... by Sebastien_Bailard · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Fussing that RepRap is not 'perfectly self-replicating' yet is an extremely common criticism. This pedantic but factually true statement glosses over the fact that it's a machine that cheaply and easily makes its own parts*, using inexpensive feedstock. And it can make other useful things. That's the important stuff, which your criticism fails to address.

      *Aside from common stuff from a hardware store and an electronics store.

      (Yes, I'm a RepRap developer, and yes, that's a cut-and-paste.)

    3. Re:I... by bestiarosa · · Score: 5, Funny

      You comment to this dupe article is is a dupe of my comment in the original article:

      http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=514462&cid=22998000

      I for one welcome our new self-replicating Slashdot article overlords!

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    4. Re:I... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      What it does is print the plastic parts needed to make a copy of itself - you still need steel rods, motors, nuts and bolts, nichrome wire to make the heater core and a handful of small Anduino circuit boards. And of course you have to bolt it together yourself. Pretty soon it should be able to make its own circuit boards - but you'll still need to add electronic components.

      It's a significant step - but the slashdot blurb wildly over-sells it.

    5. Re:I... by LordLucless · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I love the idea of the RepRap as much as the next geek. But it's been posted on Slashdot at least three times that I can recall, and the headline or summary has always claimed, as this one does also, the factually incorrect statement that the "Machine Prints 3D Copies Of Itself". It doesn't. It's cool and all, and it's getting there, but it doesn't.

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    6. Re:I... by Fuzzums · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe it can print an order form for those parts?

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    7. Re:I... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Perhaps this criticism is extremely common because someone keeps claiming that RepRap is self replicating, when in fact it is not?

    8. Re:I... by dintech · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's fine. I just don't want to see it mating with my toaster.

    9. Re:I... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      First, I love the idea of the RepRap and am seriously thinking of building one.

      But really, claiming self-replication here is only slightly less laughable than someone claiming their inkjet printer is "self-replicating" because it can print the manual that comes in the box.

      What we need is *quantification* - numbers. For example, choose one of the following measures:
      * part count
      * part cost
      * part mass
      * part compexity (harder to measure, but this is what really counts)

      and then find the value of X in this statement:

      "RepRap is X% self-replicating by [measure]"

      My guess is that even by the most favorable measure (probably mass), the number is well under 50%, and by other measures it's under 10%.

      But progress will be made, the value of X will increase, and that's what matters. Publicizing new values of X will attract attention and pique interest. Making unquantified claims of "self-replication" mostly just invites the fussing you're complaining about.

    10. Re:I... by zacronos · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps, in lieu of making copies of itself, it just dupes articles about itself on /.

    11. Re:I... by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "The amazing thing about a dancing bear is not how well it dances, but that it dances at all. "

  2. One step closer to the robot invasion by winterphoenix · · Score: 5, Funny

    While I appreciate the commercial benefit of this technology, the geek in me is a little more interested in the advancement toward the robot invasion. And by "interested" I meant "excited."

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  3. Dupe! by RMH101 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Haven't I heard this before?

    1. Re:Dupe! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    2. Re:Dupe! by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Great, now even the articles are making copies of themselves!

    3. Re:Dupe! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Great, now even the articles are making copies of themselves!

    4. Re:Dupe! by harry666t · · Score: 4, Funny

      | sed s/articles/posts/

      # the copy is never exact.

    5. Re:Dupe! by renoX · · Score: 4, Informative

      The news here is that it has achieved 'self-replication' (between quotes because the replication is only done for the plastic parts).

      The article gives little detail beside the price of the parts: how much time is necessary for the self-replication? what are the skills needed for the assembly?

    6. Re:Dupe! by FeepingCreature · · Score: 4, Funny

      Great, now even the jokes are making copies of themselves!

    7. Re:Dupe! by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're in a maze of twisty little comments, all alike.

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  4. Sweet by Ninja_Popsicle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is take piracy to a whole new level. What fun.

    1. Re:Sweet by NoobixCube · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can't wait to print off some Gundam models from 3d model files, instead of shelling out for the expensive model kits :P.

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    2. Re:Sweet by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 4, Informative

      Won't work with this machine unfortunately ... it lacks a support material, so it can only print a certain, very limited class of 3d shapes.

      In fact it can't print any structures that won't retain their shapes when melted to, say 5 degrees below their melting point.

      The safe class of objects that it can print are those that are basically straight-up walls upon a flat base. The most complex stuff it would be able to print is a gothic castle (the ones with tiny windows), and you'd have to put the roofs on top of them afterwards.

      The "full" class of objects it can print are those where a finite element stress analysis (*with* gravity active obviously) doesn't have any red spots.

      (and now translation from technobabble to bad news :)

      It can't print Gundam models. At least not directly. For a less limited class of objects you could make 2 half-negatives, allowing you to mass-produce them. You'd have to paint them afterwards.

  5. Close but... by Smidge204 · · Score: 4, Informative
    ...not quite there yet.

    FTA (emphasis mine):

    The materials, plus the minority of parts that the machine cannot print, cost about £300. It also does not actually assemble the parts it creates. So close and yet so far.
    =Smidge=
    1. Re:Close but... by NightWhistler · · Score: 5, Informative

      From the pictures in the article it seems to mostly consist of small metal pipes, with pieces of plastic connecting them.... from what I gather it's only able to print the plastic connection parts, so I'm not sure how this counts as "self-replicating".

      Also it has a big bunch of wires coming out the back, which I bet are not replicated either... so someone was jumping the gun a bit while writing this article :)

      Still... this is some seriously cool technology... if the resulting plastic parts are strong / durable enough it could certainly have a huge impact... essentially being able to download physical objects from the internet...

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  6. Working copies you say? by elguillelmo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have some old Natalie Portman's pics to print out!

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  7. Bad business model by stoofa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Won't everyone just buy one, make it clone itself and then send it back for a full refund?

    1. Re:Bad business model by lilomar · · Score: 5, Informative

      The guys who designed this thing aren't a business. They put the design online and the list of parts online for free, and tell anyone who wants to make one for themselves, then print one off for a friend, who can make one for his friend....

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  8. Ahh, but... by Doug+Neal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can it sniff out nearby objects/people, ingest them, shred/melt them down to create new raw materials for buildling copies of itself? Thought not. We're safe... for now...

  9. One of best marketing statements ever: by tyler.willard · · Score: 4, Funny

    'Recently, Chris DiBona, Open Source Programs Manage at Google Inc, encouraged people to: "Think of RepRap as a China on your desktop."'

  10. Let the Clone Wars Begin by totallydude · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lord Vader our troops are almost ready but I gotta run to staples to get some more of that plastic injection stuff for the printer.

  11. Printcrime by Cory Doctorow by skware · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Printcrime

    Copy this story.

    (originally published in Nature Magazine, January 2006)

    Cory Doctorow

    The coppers smashed my father's printer when I was eight. I remember the hot, cling-film-in-a-microwave smell of it, and Da's look of ferocious concentration as he filled it with fresh goop, and the warm, fresh-baked feel of the objects that came out of it.

    The coppers came through the door with truncheons swinging, one of them reciting the terms of the warrant through a bullhorn. One of Da's customers had shopped him. The ipolice paid in high-grade pharmaceuticals -- performance enhancers, memory supplements, metabolic boosters. The kind of things that cost a fortune over the counter; the kind of things you could print at home, if you didn't mind the risk of having your kitchen filled with a sudden crush of big, beefy bodies, hard truncheons whistling through the air, smashing anyone and anything that got in the way.

    They destroyed grandma's trunk, the one she'd brought from the old country. They smashed our little refrigerator and the purifier unit over the window. My tweetybird escaped death by hiding in a corner of his cage as a big, booted foot crushed most of it into a sad tangle of printer-wire.

    Da. What they did to him. When he was done, he looked like he'd been brawling with an entire rugby side. They brought him out the door and let the newsies get a good look at him as they tossed him in the car. All the while a spokesman told the world that my Da's organized-crime bootlegging operation had been responsible for at least 20 million in contraband, and that my Da, the desperate villain, had resisted arrest.

    I saw it all from my phone, in the remains of the sitting room, watching it on the screen and wondering how, just how anyone could look at our little flat and our terrible, manky estate and mistake it for the home of an organized crime kingpin. They took the printer away, of course, and displayed it like a trophy for the newsies. Its little shrine in the kitchenette seemed horribly empty. When I roused myself and picked up the flat and rescued my poor peeping tweetybird, I put a blender there. It was made out of printed parts, so it would only last a month before I'd need to print new bearings and other moving parts. Back then, I could take apart and reassemble anything that could be printed.

    By the time I turned 18, they were ready to let Da out of prison. I'd visited him three times -- on my tenth birthday, on his fiftieth, and when Ma died. It had been two years since I'd last seen him and he was in bad shape. A prison fight had left him with a limp, and he looked over his shoulder so often it was like he had a tic. I was embarrassed when the minicab dropped us off in front of the estate, and tried to keep my distance from this ruined, limping skeleton as we went inside and up the stairs.

    "Lanie," he said, as he sat me down. "You're a smart girl, I know that. You wouldn't know where your old Da could get a printer and some goop?"

    I squeezed my hands into fists so tight my fingernails cut into my palms. I closed my eyes. "You've been in prison for ten years, Da. Ten. Years. You're going to risk another ten years to print out more blenders and pharma, more laptops and designer hats?"

    He grinned. "I'm not stupid, Lanie. I've learned my lesson. There's no hat or laptop that's worth going to jail for. I'm not going to print none of that rubbish, never again." He had a cup of tea, and he drank it now like it was whisky, a sip and then a long, satisfied exhalation. He closed his eyes and leaned back in his chair.

    "Come here, Lanie, let me whisper in your ear. Let me tell you the thing that I decided while I spent ten years in lockup. Come here and listen to your stupid Da."

    I felt a guilty pang about ticking him off. He was off his rocker, that much was clear. God knew what he went through in prison. "What, Da?" I said, leaning in close.

    "Lanie, I'm going to print more printers. Lots more printers. One for everyone

  12. Doom! Doom! Doom! by Detritus · · Score: 5, Funny
    Now all it needs is an attachment that converts organic matter into chemical feed stock and some wheels.

    "Knock, knock"
    "Who's there?"
    "Candygram"
    "You're not a self-replicating cybernetic organism?"
    "No, ma'am"

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  13. Obligatory Futurama by Bwian_of_Nazareth · · Score: 5, Funny

    And it can make other useful things. That's the important stuff, which your criticism fails to address. Fry: Isn't that the machine that makes noses?

    Professor Farnsworth: It can do other things, why shouldn't it!