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Canadian Gov't Victim of Cyberattacks

courteaudotbiz writes "Canada and all members of the U5 (United States, Germany, United Kingdom, France and New-Zealand) state that they all suffered government-directed attacks between June and September 2007. These seemed to be Chinese government sponsored attacks." It's a Google translation, so it's a bit hard to read, but it seems to be a recurring story these last few months.

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  1. And? by PawNtheSandman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sure we are returning the favor and have been for decades.

    1. Re:And? by cytg.net · · Score: 3, Insightful

      more importantly, whos really to gain something from putting the chinese in the cyberspot these days.
      Someone needs funding for something im sure..

  2. So... by Coraon · · Score: 5, Funny

    When is the US going to "Cyber invade" China? I'm not sure how exactly they would do it but I'm guessing it would involve telling people that they export viruses of mass destruction, letting people know it'll take a day or 2 to get the Chinese servers in line, and the backbones there will welcome them with open arms. The US will then be there for a month or 2 before they get someone in the government to call it off leaving the Chinese networks in the hands of a few ISP "Warlords" for a few years...

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    1. Re:So... by zappepcs · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When is the US going to "Cyber invade" China? ... Put on the tin foil hat. To properly cyber-invade the country, the U5 will need some advance search teams on the ground there. Some folks to ensure that targeted data attacks hit the right spots. These advanced search and spotter groups will be sent in the form of Olympic "trainers", cooks, security, and flunkies. Once the Olympics is done, then we'll see some interesting fiber cable cuts and one or two odd DNS issues, then the spynetwork installation will be complete, and the only person that will know more about China than the US government will be Mr Chan who sells noodles on a side street in Beijing.

      Tinfoil hat off: They are already spying on them with satellites and anything that you might think of plus a few other things that are so outrageously expensive and impractical that you would not imagine that they are using them.

      The cold war is not over, it simply moved to the Intarwebtubes.

  3. Re:For Shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey, don't cyberattck me buddy!

  4. Make it legal by canuck57 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why not just make it legal for us to hack Chinese IP addresses? This could be fun!

    Then once we have their systems they will negotiate.

  5. The U5 ?? by brunes69 · · Score: 3, Informative
    I know I can't be the only one who has never heard of this group. It doesn't even have a Wikipedia entry.

    This is all I could dig up really - seems to be some cyber-security e-commerce related group?

    Whereas work in other areas of shared concern, such as international trade, is conducted in line with some "ground truths and principles," there is little by way of standards, laws, regulations, etc. to guide international cooperation between key partners on cyber security. Mr. Aisenberg argued that such cooperation could be especially fruitful between the so called "U5 Countries" - Canada, Great Britain, the United States, Australia, and New Zealand. As countries with a shared history, common language, and similar institutions and values, the U5 countries could work together and "develop a doctrine that they can all believe in," before moving policy, regulation, and legislation in that shared direction. In fact, Mr. Aisenberg emphasized that the democratic, liberal, free-market commitments common across the U5 countries are a logical starting point for cooperation, as they can anchor cooperation in common objectives and principles.

  6. Google translation? by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a google translation, so it's a bit hard to read, but it seems to be a recurring story these last few months. They tried to Google-translate Canadian into English? You fools, It cannot be done!

    OK, OK I didn't RTFA. My way's better.
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  7. Translating from Canadian is hard by Kohath · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm surprised Google can do it at all. Removing the "u" from words like "color" is easy enough. But the hostile subtext in the Canadian niceness and politeness is hard for machines to render into American.

    The further you get from the border, the harder it is to understand. Of course Canadians will deny it. But they'll do it politely.

  8. Re:U5? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Informative
    I think it's this

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK-USA_Security_Agreement

    The UK-USA Security Agreement is an agreement or treaty that established an alliance of Anglosphere countries for the purpose of sharing intelligence. The alliance includes Australia, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom and the United States.

    The community is derived from an intelligence sharing agreement between the United Kingdom and the United States signed immediately following the Second World War to capitalize on intelligence relationships built up during that conflict. This formalized the intelligence sharing agreement in the Atlantic charter, signed in 1941, following the cessation of the conflict.
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  9. Re:For Shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't call me "buddy" friend!

  10. great firewall of china by superflex · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Would it not be really easy to misattribute the sources of these attacks to Chinese-gov't sources when everybody in China connects to the Net through a gov't-controlled firewall?
    Can anyone who knows more about this than me comment?

    Oh, and regarding the "U5" debate, RTFA. From the article "We have had confirmation from our partners U5 (USA, Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand and Canada)" This corresponds to the UKUSA member countries.

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  11. Re:For Shame by somersault · · Score: 4, Funny

    He's not your "friend", guy!

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  12. Re:U5? by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 5, Informative

    I submitted this story, and am a french Canadian. The google translation was not wrong, the article really stated "the U5 countries". I did some research after I posted, and found really NO INFORMATION about this "organization". Maybe it's just a term internally used by the Canadian secret services. I'm as confused as you all about the presence of N-Z on such a short list :-)

  13. Quick translation (from a Canadian) by An+anonymous+Frank · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What if the Chinese gov simply told a bunch of lonely Chinese teenagers that they'd get access to playboy.com if they ran some scripts for them on the weekends?

    anyhoot, here are the only "facts" from TFA:

    - over 20 branches of CA gov hit
    - "U5" is quoted from a note given to Stockwell Day
    - link to China is unconfirmed by US and Canada
    - in an unrelated case, Le Monde (France) traced attacks back to Chinese nodes

  14. More U5 complaining by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Even TFA doesn't include France and Germany in this "U5" boy band thing or whatever it is.

    Welcome to Slashdot, where even the submitter doesn't need to RTFA.

  15. Re:U5? by Gilmoure · · Score: 3, Funny

    We're part of the Anglosphere? Cool! Always wanted to see a sphere made out of angles.

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