Mark Zuckerberg, Inventor
theodp writes "Move over, Thomas Edison. Here comes Mark Zuckerberg, inventor extraordinaire. Zuck's still waiting for that elusive first patent to be issued, but take a gander at the Facebook founder's patent application for Dynamically Generating a Privacy Summary to get an idea of what's in the works. After you check boxes on a form to indicate that 'Everyone from San Francisco, CA, Social Network Provider, and Harvard' can see your profile, Zuckerberg's 'invention' will miraculously display: 'People from San Francisco, CA, Social Network Provider, and Harvard can see your profile.' How dare Rolling Stone question his inventiveness!"
Some deserve it. But I don't read this site for editorials, I read it for some of the scientists and engineers that will comment after the fact.
But this kind of initial submission makes it hard to even read the front page.
Maybe Mark should also patent using a database to store information.
I thought you weren't allowed to get a patent for something that's considered basic functionality? Or is he exempted because it's a "legal document"? However, one can never underestimate the stupidity of the common American. After all, we wouldn't need a "Do not use while sleeping" warning on hair dryers unless there was litigation around it.
Now appearing on all the new business-oriented, online, create-a-law-document websites: Privacy Statements!
You have no idea how funny does that name sound to a bilingual latin american.
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By the students who claimed they helped code the initial version and he ripped them off?
Five bucks says kdawson's real name is Mark Zuckerberg. I mean, really, in order to be an 'inventor extraordinaire,' don't you need to have already invented something tangible? That's like me saying I'm the next Warren Buffet because I've got 'big plans!' Lame.
I read the Rolling Stone article and it was a hoot. All the challengers to Mark Zuckerberg come off as self-important and jealous douchebags.
For example, Aaron Greenspan claims to have invented the concept of an online facebook and is trying to cancel Facebook's trademark. Greenspan dismissed Zuckberg by writing, "Gates was shrewd, calculating and insanely competitive, bordering on autistic. Mark was inarticulate and naive."
Yeah, Mark was so naive he stole your idea and made himself into a billionaire.
There were lots of social networking sites before Facebook. The idea wasn't new. Mark Zuckberg pushes a product that is faster, more reliable, and for a while was less annoying to use than its competitors. His competitors just come off as incredible losers here.
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Bravo. Really, bravo. That was just terrific.
RW
That's like me saying I'm the next Warren Buffet because I've got 'big plans!' Lame.
More like saying you're the next Warren Buffet because you own a share of Disney, and have the certificate framed in your cubicle to prove it.
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
Did you RTFS? Is your sarcasmometer calibrated incorrectly? And did you read the GP? He wasn't calling Mark Zuckerberg "inventor extraordinaire seriously.
Anyone else think the comments just weren't rendering right before they turned off ABP and saw ads?
This sounds exactly like an ACL which have been around for awhile. I have many different data elements, I want to only certain people or certain groups, or combinations there of to be able to access it. Hmm, what else could that be? Oh, I know. MySQL can do that do with its permissions table, file systems can do that with ACLs, Apache can do that, hell, if the "data elements" were sockets or ports, even IPTables could do that. PRIOR ART! anyone know what the copyright date of getfacl was?
Bloody hell, I clicked the wrong reply button. Sorry.
Anyone else think the comments just weren't rendering right before they turned off ABP and saw ads?
No wait, no I didn't. /. just displayed it strange until I refreshed. Feel free to take all of my karma now.
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While I know its heresy to say it... Edison did just plain steal a lot of ideas and then pass them off as his own inventions. In fact the lack of global patent protection was a major reason for Edison becoming the person he did, in reality he lived off the inventions of others.
Edison was a patent troll ;)
An Eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi
Facebook is a really good business idea. Technically it's uninteresting, but socially it's brilliant.
It also has more revenue per employee than almost anything else. Facebook, the company, is tiny. For their growth period to a billion-dollar company, they were in a little 3-story building on Litton in Palo Alto, between a yoga studio and a beauty salon. (There something about those few downtown blocks of Palo Alto. PayPal, Facebook, Alta Vista, and a host of other well-known names all started within a three block area. PayPal started above the bike shop. )
Facebook seems to hire based on Facebook. The women coming out of the building are good looking and the guys are hunks.
I looked at the application and this is about as "obvious" as it gets. It does not even come close to meeting the standards for a patent.
What do you want to bet that the clueless idiots at the PTO actually give this serious consideration?
like, what would life be worth without facebook?
Can we please not use interchangeably the words "inventor" and "patenter"? The two terms are orthogonal, and these days they even seem to be negatively correlated.
Zuckerberg is a "Nietzschean superdork"! Sounds sweet, where do I sign up to become one of those? Oh wait, I have to make a site where I game people's personal info to advertisers and profit from their disclosures? On second thought, I'll pass.
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If this guy is the Thomas Edison of the 21st century, its no wonder we don't have flying cars.
Mark Zuckerberg, "Inventor"
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Seriously, hate the game, i.e. the patent system. It makes a lot of sense for companies to patent everything they possibly can, if only for defensive purposes. If the patent is accepted, cool, you have another patent to sit on. If it's not accepted, oh well, you lost some time and money. There's no real reason not to try to patent any little thought that passes through your mind, no matter how stupid or banal.
There are probably other reasons to hate this guy. Being even somewhat responsible for Facebook is probably enough. But filing for frivolous patents is just the way you do business these days, so nothing to get excited about there. It's just an indication that (in case you haven't figured it out) the patent system is in serious need of reform.
The best invention is, of course, THE FIRST POST! Hells yeah, bro, hells yeah. Let's hear it for the FIRST POST. Let's hear it for the FIRST POST CREW! Yay
This was filed on July 25, 2006. So we need an example of a similar thing from July 25, 2005 or earlier to qualify for prior art. And this is so ridiculously simple that there's got to be some prior art somewhere. I don't think this would qualify since it is on an intranet, but my company's intranet has an internal policy editor that lets users set which affiliates get to see the policy. So if you want Policy X to be seen by A, B, and C, but not D, you check off those checkboxes and click OK. The database stores the permissions and the users searching for policies get the appropriate policies on their screens. I don't remember when we launched that, but I'm sure that it was before 2005. This should be a ridiculously easy patent to find prior art for.
My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
The age old Windows repair solution. Format the Patent and Trademark system and start over. Maybe switch to Linux while they're at it. Any PTO officer who can handle using that may actually have the elusive quality of common sense.
My bad. My sarcasmometer is calibrated correctly, but it was set to accept that kdawson is a soulless husk without a sense of humor, so it didn't detect anything. I'll readjust it to think that kdawson is a soulless husk with a sense of humor so this won't happen again.
He is a fucking Jew and many Jewboy lawyers and U.S. ZOG (zionist occupied government) officials are going to help him.
Have you wonder why the color of facebook is blue and white? Hint: it resemble the flag of a certain country in middle east.
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It's hard for me to read posts like this. The real story is at:
http://www.thinkpress.com/authoritas/index.html
Both are Harvard dropouts, one havent gotten fabulously rich on software and the other about to. Both wrote good software in their days. Both are accused of stealing their best ideas from other people. Both seem to have a touch Aspergers. And one is trying to buy the other out. So is Mark going to be eventually as good as Bill in the computer business?
I clicked on the print link in TFA so I didn't have to wade through 8 pages of adverts - and the 'printable' page had flash adverts on it... Now I know printers are getting good, but...
Zuckerberg's famous pig! Patent hog.
When will we have had enough? These people have made a mockery of our legal system so they can exploit the public for money.
How ko$her is pig? Very.
We shall rise and fight against the Jewish Cancer!
The Battle of Truth & Falsehood
" ... Ever since Allah created this life, it is a conflict between Truth and Falsehood, a continuous battle between good and evil, and a constant struggle between those who are good and those who are evil. On this holy land, we witness one of the chapters of this holy battle, the battle between Truth and Falsehood.
We are the good, people of Truth, who defend it with our blood and souls. We defend our rights, we defend our land, and our holy places. On the other hand, our enemies are evil, people of Falsehood who fight using the sword of Falsehood. We will beat them, because victory will be that of Truth, Allah willing."
Jews Had to be Destroyed
"Oh servants of Allah, history repeats itself. When the Prophet [Muhammad] entered Al-Madina, he entered it in order to establish the Islamic state. But he found serpents there, disseminating their venom among the Arabian tribes, in order to destroy their kinship and spark war between the Arabs and the brothers [i.e. The Muslims].
"When the Prophet saw the situation of the Arabs, he found that they were not capable of establishing the Islamic state... He looked around and saw the flame of civil strife raging through the Arabian tribes. Brother fighting brother, and tribe fighting tribe.
"When he investigated the cause of these civil wars, he found that the Jews were behind them. The most grave thing the Prophet saw was the war raging between the Aws and Khazraj tribes. When he investigated the cause of this great war between the two largest tribes, he found a Jew behind it. A Jew named Shas sparked the fire of civil strife between the Aws and Khazraj.
"The prophet had to have a good plan in order to establish his Islamic state. He based his plan on two elements. The first of them was to make peace between the Arabs and brotherhood among the Muslims...
The second element the Prophet had to deal with was the Jewish existence in Al-Madina, with which no Islamic state could ever be established.
"The Prophet received an instruction from the Lord of heaven and earth, Who knows the nature of the Jews, who forever live off the fire of civil strife and disseminating their venom among the brothers, Muslims, and friends. Allah ordered him to forge his plan to take care of the Jewish existence in Al-Madina.
"The prophet could not fight the Jews immediately following his emigration to Al-Madina, because his security, military, political, and economic situation did not permit him to wage war against the Jews, at that time.
"The Prophet had three stages in taking care of the Jewish existence: The first was political. One should deal with the Jews politically to defend oneself from their evil. The Prophet dealt with them politically and signed pacts with them, even though he knew they treat the Muslims ruthlessly, but this was an unavoidable stage.
Oh Allah's servants, it was an unavoidable political stage in order to strengthen the Muslims, because wars weaken the Muslims if they are not strong enough to begin with. The second stage was harder for the Muslims: The stage of tolerating the damage caused by the Jews, who again, began violating the pacts and spreading their poison among the Muslims...
"Then came the great battle of Badr, where the Muslims grew stronger. This brought the third stage of dealing with the Jewish existence in Al-Madina. We have tolerated you for a long time - you offspring of apes and pigs! We have tolerated you for a long time. After the battle of Badr, verses came down ordering the Prophet to fight the Jews...
The Jews lived in fortresses and in various tribes. The Prophet said: 'By Allah, I fear the Qaynuq'a tribe.' Meaning, 'I fear the civil strife they spark.' We must first teach the Qaynuq'a tribe a lesson that will deter those behind them...
"Mixing with the Arabs gave the Jews an Arab trait - courage. Praise Allah. Imagine - the Qaynuq'a Jews
surely deserved more than a copyright ;)
in the form of the dialog in Windows that allows you to select which users and groups have access to files and folders.
Wait, this site has thingies above the comments? Never noticed.
Populus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur...
"Force shits upon Reason's back." - Poor Richard's Almanac
I think the primary difference between facebook and everyone else is scale. Facebook is successful because it's already successful. The only reason I'm a member is because everyone else I know is already a member. If everyone in my social group picked Orkut or something else to share their kegger times, I'd sign up for that instead.
With something this obvious being patented, I think I'm going to patent my method of inspiring air in order to convert suspended iron into iron oxide in a liquid medium in order to live. I'll make a mint!
The game.
It sounds exactly like a report on an ACL. Set up the permissions as you wish, then see them in an easily comprehended summary.
There's a makeup shotgun with his name on the app, too.
Does anybody else think that maybe his lawyers were like Hey Mark "You can probably file a patent for this."
These kind of kike scums control the Wall Street, the media, so the entire USA.
This may surprise you, but kdawson's real name is in fact Keith Dawson.
Who'd have guessed?
CLAIRE HOFFMAN Posted Jun 26, 2008 2:25 PM
You know you created those to further smear your friend Twitter. It's good to see you beat down for it, you nasty little name troll.
If they are not rejected immediately, they may be challenged later. Myself and others developed one or more of the concepts Mr. Z has tried to patent - way before he filed his application(s). In particular those relating to privacy and tagging.
O'WONDERWe're working on it.
All these social networking sites got their start in much the same way. Facebook had the pick-a-professor thing which at least at my school got sent around as unsolicited spam to get people to sign up. Once a critical mass of users was achieved, people started signing up of their own volition more rapidly.
Myspace was the same way. They grew based on these "models" and whatnot who would spam people to try to get as many "friends" as possible, and signing up was required to see their pics. Once enough people signed up to look at these fake spam models, regular people started hearing about the site and then it started growing among everyone else.
Social networking sites are basically worthless, since there seems to be no real consumer loyalty to any one site, and all you need to create a new one is a really good combination of spam and viral marketing. Zuckerberg should cash out while he can still walk away with a boatload of cash.
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I mean, not only he stole Most of his inventions, he was more a showman than a scientist (The guy's way to promote AC over DC was to kill ellephants on the streets )
But even WORSE, he stole Homer's electric hammer idea!!!
WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
Not sure that's such a good idea. I do believe the French already have a patent on this.
I kid, I kid! Or, to put it in French: Je enfant, je enfant!
The view was horrible and the smell was even worse; Julie severely regretted becoming a proctologist.
Kdawson is the bane of slashdot.
*All* of her posts are the most annoying little trolls.