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Lego Secret Vault Contains All Sets In History

An anonymous reader writes "Gizmodo has an exclusive video and feature of one of the most heavily guarded secrets in Lego: the security vault where they store all the Lego sets ever created, new in their boxes. 4,720 sets from 1953 to 2008. Really amazing stuff and a trip down memory lane to every person who has played with the magic bricks. All combined, the collection must be worth millions, not only because of the collector value, but also because Lego uses it as a safeguard in copyright and patent cases."

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  1. cool tour, but no real surprise by zappepcs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    FTFS

    but also because Lego uses it as a safeguard in copyright and patent cases This is why this is no surprise to me. I believe that pretty much every manufacturer does this.
    1. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by WaltBusterkeys · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Still, it's pretty cool. Even if it is useful for trademark cases, you have to figure that sets from 50 years ago are there mostly just for the awesome historic value and as inspiration to the engineers.

    2. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by __aamnbm3774 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I heard Microsoft burned every copy of Windows-ME. Along with all their source-code. That way, they are committed to using the same binaries forever.

    3. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by Speare · · Score: 5, Informative

      One would think this is the case, but many companies fail this. It takes an archivists' mindset to institute this as policy in the early days of a small company.

      In fact I know that Microsoft was pretty bad about this in years past. Even though storage is cheap, they have had to ask employees for old products like MS-DOS 1.1 or MS-DOS 2.0 floppies from time to time, as the official archivists were unable to produce the "silvers" (copies from their golden masters sent to reproduction) or in fact any boxed copies at all.

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    4. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by sm62704 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm wondering what Lego holds patents on? Also, what patents they once held that have expired? I remember Legos from when I was a kid, and I'm over 50. The design patent on the original blocks has to have expired long ago.

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    5. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by Amouth · · Score: 5

      that is why i use underrated

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    6. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by Mikkeles · · Score: 2, Interesting

      'Modded "Informative"? Really? It sounds like it was meant to be a joke.'

      You obviously don't know Microsoft ;^)

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    7. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by Bombula · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe that pretty much every manufacturer does this.. Exactly. So what gives with this line in the article summary: one of the most heavily guarded secrets in Lego? Why would either the existence or the location of such a vault be a secret? That's like saying the vault at a major bank is a heavily guarded secret - it makes no sense, since you expect major banks to have vaults. Heavily guarded, yes. Secret? No.

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    8. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by spun · · Score: 5, Informative

      No karma for underrated, either, because there is no meta-moderation on under and overrated.

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    9. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by Mikkeles · · Score: 5, Informative

      I don't think they had patents. They tried using Trade Mark infringement law to prevent competition, but lost in Canada.

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    10. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by Mikkeles · · Score: 5, Informative

      Whoops! I'm WRONG. They did have patents which expired in Canada in 1988. The Trade Mark dispute they did lose, however.

      (Goes and beats himself with fanfold paper).

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    11. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Given Microsoft's history on security, if they *did* have a vault, I'd guess it would be made from Lego.

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    12. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I heard Microsoft burned every copy of Windows-ME. Just like all their customers.
    13. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by foobsr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe that pretty much every manufacturer does this.

      Indeed?!

      CC.

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    14. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by Keebler71 · · Score: 4, Funny

      very nearly... I thought you were going to go for the "if they put their versions in a vault it would be the first secure version..." route.

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    15. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Free copy of Vista??
      No, thanks.
    16. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by Amouth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      well damn then.. i have been waisting alot of mod points..

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    17. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by fm6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It may take an archivist's mindset to preserve a complete history of Lego or other manufactured product. But software? All you need are regular backups. The problem is that when geeks start a new enterprise, they try to do their own IT, and the boring stuff, like backups, doesn't get done.

      Also, before the Internet came along and made everybody need to be online and IP-compatible, most computers weren't networked, and those that were used a lot of different technologies. So basically there was no way a machine was going to get backed up unless the department it belonged thought to take care of it.

      Small wonder that so much old software has just disappeared.

    18. Re:cool tour, but no real surprise by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, he means that mod points are fattening.

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  2. Bonus points if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They would have totally gotten bonus points in my book if the vault and locking mechanism were actually made of Legos. It's totally doable (people have made far bigger things out of Legos), but probably insecure if you can just cut through the Legos with a Sawz-All. Still, it would have been nice if they'd made it LOOK like it were made of Legos. The Lego signs are a nice touch along those lines.

    1. Re:Bonus points if... by Amouth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      i would love to have a set of metal legos

      get them in diffrent alloys.. make a car.. could be fun

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    2. Re:Bonus points if... by Gewalt · · Score: 3, Funny

      Even a Faux wall would have been sweet. Or a decorative mount for the passkey device... something... anything. ugh, why'd you have to mention that!?!?!?

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    3. Re:Bonus points if... by steelfood · · Score: 4, Funny

      It'd be even more awesome if they had to assemble/disassemble the pieces in just the right way to gain access. And probably even more secure.

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    4. Re:Bonus points if... by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'd sell that idea to them.

      I could see them creating a 1:1 car model out of metal that actually works. But ... knowing how they changed in the years, the kit would probably consist of 10 parts that only fit together how they "should". No generics, just prefabricated reassembly kits.

      It's a shame, really. I loved the old "generic" Legos a lot more. Maybe with a handful of "special" parts (that could still be used in other ways). Oh, it changed so much in the past 20 years...

      'scuse me while I go mourn.

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    5. Re:Bonus points if... by pragma_x · · Score: 2, Funny

      Its a nice idea, but I think the only reason why LEGO works as well as it does is the scale of the materials involved; think friction and density.

      You'd probably wind up with something like a full-scale erector set after you fool around with scaled-up (and incredibly heavy) metal LEGO bricks. To wit, there are already things like this out there, like "speed rail" and "aluminum extrusion" systems that are highly modular and require minimal tools to apply your every creative whim. They're also expensive as hell.

      Anyway, once you have a arc-welder in the garage, just about everything made of metal feels like LEGO anyway, since you're only a few *zaps* away from sticking two pieces together however you want. And the best part: not having to separate those pesky 2x1 pieces with your teeth.

    6. Re:Bonus points if... by Kankraka · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's one thing I've started noticing with the re-releases of the Star Wars kits. When Episode One came out, my brother and I of course had to have everything Lego and Star Wars, the combination of the two was deadly on my parents wallets I'm sure, because no Christmas or Birthday was left without a few sets of Lego. I remember getting my Naboo Starfighter very well. I also remember how blocky it looked once completed, and was pleased with this, as it still had it's trademark Lego look and feel. And I could retrofit it with whatever armaments my creative mind saw fit. Now I stroll through toy aisles occasionally, looking for a bit of Lego to satisfy the urge I get from time to time to indulge in my childhood. All the old kits have been re-vamped with large, rounded, one piece 'skins'. Sure they look a lot more 'like the movie models' but lack the Lego look. Not only that, but it reduces the number of pieces needed to complete the kit, and takes away from the fun of putting it together yourself. I'm finding this a lot more with other toys as well in my browsing, nothing is as cool as it was when I was a little kid, nor is it as well built. That's why I've got all my old toys hoarded away for when I eventually spawn, my kids will know what quality was.

  3. Additional Photo Of Vault and Facility... by TheLazySci-FiAuthor · · Score: 4, Funny

    It looks Impenetrable!

    1. Re:Additional Photo Of Vault and Facility... by eastlight_jim · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not to mention highly confusing once inside and ringed by a darstadly innescapable staircase that's been baffling would-be thieves for many a year.

  4. And the asshole handled it without gloves??? by johnny+cashed · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's a 928 Galaxy Space Explorer, too bad it isn't in the original shrink wrap....

    1. Re:And the asshole handled it without gloves??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't think it came shrinkwrapped. The cardboard flap opened so that buyers could see the parts.

    2. Re:And the asshole handled it without gloves??? by sootman · · Score: 2, Informative

      About to prove I'm one of the biggest geeks here, and that's saying something: AFAIK, Lego boxes have never been shrinkwrapped.

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  5. Storage by Solokron · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I like how each of the storage isles are compressed against each other initially and can then be opened with a crank.

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    1. Re:Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's called compact shelving. Libraries have been using it for decades.

    2. Re:Storage by eastlight_jim · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's a pretty standard layout for many archival places. Library stacks are nearly always like this - there's too many journals and books in most large libraries for open shelf access for all so the older stuff is graded by size and put into stacks. Often, you can approach nearly complete space usage with well designed shelves and identical volume sizes. Tours of the Bodleian library book stacks in Oxford are available to members of the University. They're really something to behold.

    3. Re:Storage by roguetrick · · Score: 5, Interesting
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  6. IP by bjackson1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I first read it, I assumed it was going to be a data store of all possible combinations of every Lego block ever created so that all possible designs were prior art and their property.

    Lego needs to work on this.

    1. Re:IP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My first year teacher at mathematics (Soren Eilers at University of Copenhagen) has put a lot of work into the counting problem of combining six two-by-four Lego blocks. It's a huge problem to figure out how many ways you can combine six of those, and he describes how he with mathematics and programming methods approaches this problem at http://www.math.ku.dk/~eilers/lego.html.

      Lego themselves computed in 1974 that the ways you can combine those six blocks is 102,981,500 - and that number has been referenced ever since in different media - and it's wrong.

      Now, if you want to compute the total number of possibilities, bear in mind what Soren Eilers writes on his site:

      the mathematics of the total number of combinations is so irregular that it is very difficult to come up with a formula for it. Thus one has to essentially go through all the possibilities. Based on our data, we estimate the total number of ways to combine 25 two-by-four LEGO bricks to be a 47 digit number.

      With the current efficiency of our computer programs we further estimate that it would take us something like

      130,881,177,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

      years to compute the correct number. After some 5,000,000,000 years we will have to move our computer out of the Solar system, as the Sun is expected to become a red giant at about that time.

  7. The space sets were the best by pudding7 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Oh man, the Galaxy Explorer was the best! Seems like after the space sets, all the pieces started getting to specialized. Giant plates that could hardly be used to make anything other than what the instructions said.

    I remember having dozens of little bins full of the hinge pieces, light bulb looking things, and space man helmets.

    Good times.

    1. Re:The space sets were the best by owlstead · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yup, I dub that. Everytime that I take a look at Lego nowadays I can see tons of figures and stuff, but few pieces. Of course I changed that for my nephew when I bought a very big "Lego 25 years" box of standardized Lego. There were too few "plates" though. The grey plates were excellent to build on, both for technical Lego as well as for castles and the like.

      But the galaxy explorer hit the spot, no need to take out the other sets. I went right back to the time that I and my brother were building cable cars right between the stairs and the table on the opposite of the room. Of course this memory includes many crashes and half strangled adults (I won't repeat my fathers rather good humored curses here). Good times indeed.

    2. Re:The space sets were the best by steveo777 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Generally I'd construct the space sets upstairs and the castle sets downstairs. The space guys would come down and attack the castle sets. Somehow the knights always won by hurling large boulders in the way of the cruisers and attack ships. But most of the time it was due to the fact that I was never able to construct a Lego spaceship that was airworthy. IE, they never survived the flight down the stairs.

      My mother and father had some significantly less than good nature curses when they found the shrapnel with bare feet. They would also ask me exactly why space people needed to attack the castle people. I never had a very good answer...

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    3. Re:The space sets were the best by Endo13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, gotta agree with you there. To the best of my recollection it was the pirate sets which started them off down the modern trend of specialized (and therefore nearly useless) pieces. Most of my sets as a kid were from the town collection, so while they had a few specialized pieces, they were mostly somewhat basic pieces that could be used to build a whole host of things.

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    4. Re:The space sets were the best by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Funny

      Substandard nerd?

      Let's put it that way, if I'll ever have kids, it's to stop people from looking funny at me when I play with my Legos...

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    5. Re:The space sets were the best by Splab · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well from playing Civilization I learned that in fact its very possible for a phalanx to fight off a aircraft carrier and several tanks. I fail to see the problem with a knight killing an astronaut.

  8. God damnit by sunami88 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I have to go change my pants. Thanks Slashdot.

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    1. Re:God damnit by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now I have to go change my pants. Thanks Slashdot.

      Now I can never play with Legos again without throwing up a little in my mouth. Thanks, sunami88.

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    2. Re:God damnit by rodney+dill · · Score: 4, Funny

      Jees guys, I'm never gonna be able to eat Legos again.

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    3. Re:God damnit by CowboyNealOption · · Score: 2, Interesting

      At least now I have item number 40 on my "list of things to do when I am the last person on the planet". How cool would it be to build a life sized house out of these legos???

    4. Re:God damnit by superslacker87 · · Score: 2

      My wife gets mad at me every time I mention doing the exact same thing. I have enough room in the back yard to emulate my home exactly. She just doesn't get the geekiness sometimes.

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  9. Legos by Dave+Tucker+Online · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That was fun to watch.

    I never followed any of the Lego instructions, though. So while I owned many of those sets, I never built any of those things.

    Was there anybody else who would just dump open the packages, mix it in with all your other pieces, and build random crap...like flying boats that deploy ninjas?

    1. Re:Legos by peragrin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would build the intended item in question and then start to modify it, mixing, adding and rearranging pieces until I was happy for a week or two.

      Lego the ultimate toy for those with ADD. It is never done.

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    2. Re:Legos by pomegranatesix · · Score: 5, Funny

      Funny. My flying lego boats deployed pirates. I think we may have to have a throwdown.

  10. easier for objects than data? by peter303 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've been in several organizations from universities to oil companies where large amounts of data have been lost due to system conversions, downsizings and geographic moves. I find it remarkable if a company can save several decades of history.

  11. My favorite Lego kit.... by joeytmann · · Score: 5, Interesting

    By far, the Auto Chassis. Rack and pinion steering, v-4 motor with moving pistons, 3-speed gear box, fully independent front and rear suspension, oh and adjustable seats. Was an awesome kit to put together.

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  12. Lego Colorado by smellsofbikes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I was a kid, LEGO decided to license out their manufacture to a Samsonite factory in Loveland, Colorado (right next door to the Hewlett Packard facility that was the first place HP had outsourced from its birth in Silicon Valley, as it happens.) The factory also made luggage and kids' bikes. It was cool because up until 2006 it still looked like it had been made of LEGO bricks: the windows were 2x4 clear bricks on-end, 12 feet high. They made all sorts of weird LEGO stuff, and I wonder sometimes if it was all official -- the injection molding dies came straight from Denmark, and were very, very carefully accounted for, but the plant also built other unusual LEGO sets like big crude-looking gears that only sort of meshed with the standard LEGO bricks.
    My childhood was filled with disappointment because no matter how many LEGO kits I managed to get, some of my friends, whose parents worked at the plant, had trash-bags full of floor sweepings and could make playhouses we could crawl into with their bricks. (Including a lot of weird off-colors and bricks that weren't shaped quite right.) The local library had, and probably still has, several LEGO buildings the size of cars, beautifully designed and put together. I was upset that they were glued together, making all those parts worthless. Okay, I'm still upset by that.
    Anyway. I've just always wondered if the rumors were true and the little Colorado plant did create some graymarket LEGO kits that Billund doesn't have. LEGO yanked their license after only a few years because they were doing a poor job, but maybe, just maybe, I have a couple LEGO pieces that aren't represented in that vault in Billund.

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  13. Re:Star Wars models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are a few sites out there that still have them. It will cost you probably about 50-80 bucks each. The BIG one probably 200 or more. http://www.bricklink.com/index.asp

    But for free there is
    http://www.ldraw.org/
    and
    http://www.peeron.com/

    I have been having so much fun with this these programs recreating virtual lego sets and I dont have to DIG through my massive box of em. Plus the programs are more cad like (and have more pieces) then the offical lego editor.

  14. This journalist is so emo by superskippy · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Here he is in this vault of cool stuff, and all he can talk about his his "feelings" and how life is all so hard.

    Remember journalists! The first rule of journalism is "Nobody cares about you and your life. If you are really lucky, they might just be interested in your subject, but they certainly aren't interested in you!"

    1. Re:This journalist is so emo by syrinx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you're reading Gizmodo (or Slashdot, for that matter), and you're looking for good journalism, you've made a wrong turn somewhere.

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    2. Re:This journalist is so emo by jamrock · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Here he is in this vault of cool stuff, and all he can talk about his his "feelings" and how life is all so hard. Remember journalists! The first rule of journalism is "Nobody cares about you and your life. If you are really lucky, they might just be interested in your subject, but they certainly aren't interested in you!"
      Are you disappointed that he didn't just present an illustrated list of all 4,720 sets? This wasn't scientific reporting, or a dry treatise on new mathematical discoveries, and even then the very best journalists do include a subjective element in order for other humans to connect to the story. The journalist was attempting to express how the tour took him back to his childhood, and judging from many of the comments here, he succeeded in evoking the same feeling in others. The best journalism has a human reference, and strikes a fine balance between being too removed and being too involved. Maybe he strayed too far over the line, but it's not true that the journalist's feelings about a subject don't matter or are unimportant to the story.
  15. That Big Yellow Castle by cattlemaster · · Score: 2, Funny

    Man, that big yellow castle really makes the old memories rush back. That one was my first and favorite Lego set. Nice to see it again. I remember modernizing my castle with some computer unit pieces borrowed from a space set.

  16. Building instructions from 1958 to 2007 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Building instructions from 1958 to 2007 on this site:
    http://www.hccamsterdam.nl/brickfactory/year/index.htm

  17. My favorite part by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Funny

    My favorite part was where they showed the bodies of the eBay Power Sellers that had been caught trying to tunnel in. They hand them upside down on big plastic stakes outside (the original Lego Vlad The Impaler kits are very scarce, but they work great).

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  18. You would think that but this is not the rule... by gmezero · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What Lego has here is more the exception to the rule.

    And on a separate note, am I the only one here horrified to see these people handling these boxes with their bare hands. For crying out loud, I hope they at least made that guy wash his hands first before letting him finger everything up.

    Sheesh.

  19. Tearing Up. by thesolo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For Christmas in 1990, my dad bought me the Legoland pirate ship (#6285), as shown in the video, and a few other pirate sets. I put them together immediately and played with them for hours on end.

    My dad died suddenly in early 1991. Those lego sets were the last thing he ever gave me.

    Seeing that original box on the video made me feel 10 years old all over again. Thanks Gizmodo & Slashdot.

  20. What's the story with the Yellow Castle? by Hellad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I imagine it must be rare, but does someone want to put some context on it? How rare is it? How valuable is it?

  21. Lego-brand building blocks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One of my friends wrote a fan letter to the company when he was very young, basically just a "I really love Legos, they're my favorite toy, I like building castles and spaceships!". Something like that.

    The response he got was a brief reply along the lines of: "Please refer to our product as Lego-brand building blocks." I don't know the exact wording, but it was a rather terse trademark defense letter.

    I understand you have to defend your trademark to keep it, but it's one of those sour feelings that he's remembered ever since.

    1. Re:Lego-brand building blocks by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Informative
      "I really love Legos, they're my favorite toy, I like building castles and spaceships!"

      Is this an American thing? Here in .uk I've never heard them referred to as 'Legos', only ever as 'Lego'. As if it's a continuum, like water, or cheese, rather than a set of discrete objects.

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    2. Re:Lego-brand building blocks by hldn · · Score: 3, Informative

      from wikipedia:

      The Lego Group's name has become so synonymous with its flagship toy that many refer to the bricks themselves (collectively) as "Lego" or "Legos" (the latter term being common only in US English), although the Lego Group considers such uses to be trademark dilution. Lego catalogues in the 1970s and 1980s contained a note that read:

      "The word LEGO® is a brand name and is very special to all of us in the LEGO Group Companies. We would sincerely like your help in keeping it special. Please always refer to our bricks as 'LEGO Bricks or Toys' and not 'LEGOS.' By doing so, you will be helping to protect and preserve a brand of which we are very proud and that stands for quality the world over. Thank you! Susan Williams, Consumer Services."

      The official Lego website is www.lego.com. For many years, visitors to www.legos.com (also registered to the Lego Group) have received notices similar to the one pictured, and were intentionally redirected to the official website, to further protect the brand.

      "Lego" is officially written in all uppercase letters. The company asserts that to protect its brand name, the word Lego must always be used as an adjective, as in "Lego set", "Lego products", "Lego universe", and so forth.

      i also called the blocks themselves legos and will continue to forever!

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  22. Re:My first toy by mrslacker · · Score: 2, Informative

    Maybe this one:

    http://guide.lugnet.com/set/420_1 (US version)

    Or less likely:

    http://guide.lugnet.com/set/600_2 (also US version)

    Buy here:

    http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?itemID=6270

    etc.

  23. Thank you by wandazulu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Mr Slacker, you have made me unbelievably happy. The first one was it, as soon as I saw it, I remembered the whole thing, standing there, being given this by my folks. For a split second, I was 4 years old and it was like the happiest moment of my life, again.

    Thank you Thank you Thank you.

  24. Re:You would think that but this is not the rule.. by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're one of those people that never played with his toys but kept them in the original box for collector's value, right?

    I never got that idea. It's a toy. Play with it! That's what it was made for. Yes, that means they ain't in "mint" condition after a while, but they gave me a lot of fun and very fond memories. No money in the world could compensate that.

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  25. Patents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, even though LEGO famously patented the basic stud-and-tube brick design decades ago, the company has filed for numerous patents since then on all sorts of things.

    You can view them on Google's Patent Search. Many are filed by INTERLEGO AG of Switzerland.

    http://www.google.com/patents?q=interlego&btnG=Search+Patents

    Among other things, LEGO has patented the track and car designs from its monorail system, a "brick vacuum" for picking up bricks, and a linear actuator system that is going to be used in the 2008 LEGO Technic sets released this fall.

  26. almost! by hldn · · Score: 2, Funny

    20 years ago i threw a quarter into a wishing fountain and wished i had every lego set ever made.

    it looks like they've finally finished collecting them all together for me and are readying to hand them over.

    wishes do come true.

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  27. Re:You would think that but this is not the rule.. by One+Childish+N00b · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To a collector, the collection is the fun, and the fond memories are inside those mint-condition original boxes. That row of original Star Wars figurines in their pristine presentation boxes are a point of pride and a symbol of an achievement.

    I'm with you on this one, and I smashed the shit out of a lot of what would probably have been very valuable collector's items in my youth, all in the name of fun, but I do understand the collectors' mindset.

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  28. Re:You would think that but this is not the rule.. by thelexx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    These are archival copies of things that may not exist in such a pristine state anywhere anymore. How the poster uses their own toys, particularly NOW as opposed to when they were a child, is irrelevant. I'd be willing to bet that you have, to others, a weird fetish or two yourself. All the interesting people do anyway.

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  29. Re:Okay, this calls for a heist. by Myrddin+Wyllt · · Score: 3, Interesting
    If you've never seen it, check out The Lego Italian Job, part 1 and part 2, which were the first two YouTube vids I ever watched.

    Awesome.

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  30. Re:In Korea... by kramulous · · Score: 4, Funny

    I recently went home to visit my Dad and found that he was cleaning out the house, ridding it of junk because his partner wanted it cleaned (quite justified). I was having a good riffle through the stuff they were going to throw out when I came across my two, 50 litre buckets of Lego. I very quickly put these in my car to take back to my house for 'archival purposes'.

    I'll have kids fairly soon that will be of an age to start playing with these things. I'll be encouraging the play of Lego more than watching TV or playing computer/console games. Sure, computer games can teach you problem solving techniques, but so does Lego, as well as having tactile response.

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  31. I wonder if they have by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 4, Funny

    one of those flat, gray, 1-by-2's from the little red ambulance. I'm missing one.

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  32. Re:You would think that but this is not the rule.. by Sir+Nimrod · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These aren't toys any longer; they are artifacts. If you're serious about keeping your artifacts around, you need to remember this.

    I volunteer at the Computer History Museum, and they're very particular about this. Wearing white cotton gloves as you pick up an old Atari joystick may seem silly, but that's the rule. There's very little information about how long plastics will last, so keep your grubby little fingers off.

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  33. Re:You would think that but this is not the rule.. by keytoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More to the point, the collector's fun is only possible because of everyone like you that played with the toys. It's a symbiotic relationship: If everyone collected, there'd be no scarcity!

  34. Re:You would think that but this is not the rule.. by gmezero · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually I played with all of my toys quite a bit and some of them got destroyed in the process. That's not the point, and as others have already countered... These are not toys. This is an official corporate archive of products.

    These are effectively one of a kind items for their intended purpose so you would think that extra care would be taken with them in this context.

    The oils on human skin are quite destructive. Case in point, don't wash your hands for part of the day and then pick up any magazine and smudge your thumb across a page with black ink. The soy/vegetable based inks used in most printing will breakdown and smear from the contact. There is no repair for this kind of damage.

  35. Re:You would think that but this is not the rule.. by Belial6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's what a lot of people miss. Collectibles like Franklin Mint plates are never going to yield the increase in value that an item everybody owned, but most destroyed will yield. It's the fact that everybody had one, and now they don't that creates the huge demand and small supply that makes most collectibles valuable.

  36. Re:These are different by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why should I? What do you think I am, the government?

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