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Gentoo 2008.0 Released
An anonymous reader notes that the Gentoo 2008.0 final release is available. From the announcement:
"Code-named 'It's got what plants crave,' this release contains numerous new features including an updated installer, improved hardware support, a complete rework of profiles, and a move to Xfce instead of GNOME on the LiveCD. LiveDVDs are not available for x86 or amd64, although they may become available in the future. The 2008.0 release also includes updated versions of many packages already available in your ebuild tree."
How do sourcemage and lunar compare, anyone know?
I've had the impression that Gentoo has been stagnating recently.
No LiveDVDs, there are LiveCDs for both x86 and AMD64. Its that they just have xfce on them and not gnome. Implying that livedvds may have gnome on them.
Gentoo 2007.0 had a graphical installer too. I tried using it (almost 20 times), and never did get Gentoo installed with it. Then I went to the command line minimal install (stage 3), and got it up and running in the first shot.
I'm starting to think GNU is the problem with "GNU/Linux" these days.
...but I'm still compiling 2004.3.
That's updating, not upgrading. At the very least, you should select a new profile, to get the new default system packages and masks.
To go to 2008.0, this should bring you mostly there:
[make a backup] ._cfgNNNN files using your favourite tool or manually]
emerge --sync
eselect profile default/linux/x86/2008.0 # Adjust to your preferred profile
emerge --emptytree system
emerge --emptytree system
emerge --emptytree world
emerge --update --deep --newuse world
[merge any new
Ayup, you need to rebuild system twice to cover interdependencies, and then world, to get everything to link with the new system libraries.
On a desktop system, you might also want to update the boot splash theme to reflect the new "version", but there isn't any 2008.0 theme out yet, so that might have to wait.
I've looked all over, but I can't find the electrolytes!
From your comment I can assume that either:
1) Your install is headless
2) You have been using Gentoo for less than 12 months
3) You are still running XFree86 instead of Xorg
4) Your memory is very selective
The very idea that every update goes smoothly without a single dependency block is something that most Gentoo users would laugh at. Given all of the problems with the Xorg update, or the changes in libraries that borked the tree for months last year this is laughable.
Portage is a great piece of software, and I stuck with Gentoo for many years because because of its strengths. But portage is not what lets Gentoo down. The complete lack of QA on the official tree that leads to dependency blocks, updated libraries in the stable tree that break ABI compatability with previous software and the general cavalier attitude to pushing any old crap into the stable release are what kills Gentoo.
But hey, after complaining about Gentoo for years (not even including the pain that was getting a Via media box to work) I put my money where my mouth was and went out to buy a nice stable unix system that can also run a stable version of ports. I bought a mac.
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Fucking n00bs. Change firefox memory module to remove on the fly memory allocation and compile with -XilYaBGvf option, and link the so with the rest using secondary passive attribution.
One advice to n00bs using Gentoo - RTFM.
A bit tongue-in-cheek, but I'm also serious here - what is the benefit of having thousands of geeks compiling the same code over and over, when you can download 1 binary distribution and be done? If you sum up the manhours of all this compilation, the power consumed by countless hard drives and processors churning away, whats the point? Just so you can have a 64bit Firefox that Flash won't run on? A 686-optimized kernel, connected to the Internet via 768 kbit DSL?
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It is none of your business how I decide to spend my day or what I decide to do with my computer. If I feel like compiling my Linux distro from scratch, I'll do it. Take your environmentalist rants elsewhere.
This is changing, pretty soon world will not contain system packages. So you'll have to update them separately.
I love gentoo, but damn that's accurate. Makes me wonder whether you're an embittered novice or a seasoned guru.
I was wondering if he was an embittered guru or a seasoned novice, myself. That seems to be the way they differentiate users.
I've been waiting for this release, but after one of the higher-access Gentoo devs was caught using dev servers to attack a competing distro (and resorting to name-calling afterwards) I'm not sure if I can trust them any more.
The correct procedure is:
# Update local package repository image
emerge --sync
# Select new profile (Adjust to your architecture / preferred sub-profile)
eselect profile default/linux/x86/2008.0
# Update to latest default USE flags (which is generally all that changes with profile updates)
emerge --update --deep --newuse world
# Update config files with tool of your choice
The rest is completely useless. Even if you did want to completely re-emerge the entire system, there's little point in the 2 "emerge -e system" (if you're a ricer, you may choose to do one of them - since system is included in world, the second is completely pointless)
Why on earth has this been modded insightful? You people obviously have no idea.
The main feature of Gentoo is that it is a bleeding edge release. Because everything is build from source you generally have the most recent version of all the software you chose to install.
Slackware have only just recently adopted the 2.6 Kernel. It has a tradition of old stable software. They are both "geeky" releases but they approach it from a very different mindset.
I am not attempting to say which is better (although I prefer Gentoo) I am just saying they are very different.
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