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Web-Crawling Program Spots Disease Outbreaks

no1home writes "There is a story at Discovery Channel's site about a new utility for mapping disease. The premise is to have bots crawl the web looking for stories about disease outbreaks and log them onto a map. '"We were originally thinking about how we could expand disease surveillance and pick up outbreaks earlier than traditional methods," said John Brownstein of Harvard Medical School and Children's Hospital Boston, who created HealthMap in September of 2006 with Clark Friefeld, a software developer at Harvard Medical School.' But then it was noticed by Google.org and has since grown into its own website, HealthMap Global disease alert map, and claims to be able to identify 95% of all disease outbreaks, some of them before WHO or CDC."

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  1. Great! by Apple+Acolyte · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now all the hypochondriac hyper-nerds have another reason to sit home on their computers, cloistered from the outside world. :-)

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  2. Catch the video by Joe+Decker · · Score: 4, Informative

    Fascinating TED Talk on a similar (the same?) project? As I recall, some of video was a bit unpleasant to watch, but (IMHO) very worthwhile.

  3. Re:Somewhere in Madagascar.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How about a bot that spots new memes by checking Wikipedia articles for repeated vandalism and sudden article protection.

  4. Just what the insurance companies need by Morgaine · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > one could even "out" symptoms of their friends or speculate which friends made them sick. lots of issues with it, but a different data source for inf disease folks, even if the data was not completely accurate, would be helpful in predictions.

    Yeah, right, just what we need, an inaccurate resource for the insurance companies to data-mine. Your premium has now increased by a factor of 5, just because someone with your name (Mike Smith) allegedly made someone else sick. Great.

    No thanks.

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  5. Re:I still think by dynchaw · · Score: 3, Funny

    Today
    Jenny Smith gave you the clap! Give her measles? 3:56pm

  6. This thing has one flaw by AndGodSed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    as far as I can make out. It relies heavily on human reporting. And sometimes it takes a while for news on disease outbreaks to make the news.

    Unless there is some way to report directly TO this crawler, I seriously doubt the claim that a web crawler can know of outbreaks before the WHO does.

    hmm... I just referenced The Who - a band...

  7. Neat by symes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is neat - although how useful it is I don't know... It'll be pretty obvious that communitites not tied to the www 24/7 will be sorely under-represented. Also, the disease categories seem a bit narrow - it would be cool to have stuff like murder, violence and alcohol related-disease in there. Ok, not transmissible diseases in their own right but they still have some pretty profound health-related consequences.

    1. Re:Neat by kaos07 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "It'll be pretty obvious that communitites not tied to the www 24/7 will be sorely under-represented."

      And those are the communities which have the highest outbreaks of disease... So it seems pretty pointless to me.

  8. Usefulness? by Ender_Wiggin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The CDC, and local and state health departments all have a list of "reportable" diseases. (Things from TB to gonnorhea to ebola to SARS) If a doctor encounters them, they are supposed to notify the health authorities. That is for biostatistics and epidemiology purposes.

    If they have to look these cases up in the news instead of getting notified by hospitals and clinics, then the system is in a really bad shape.

    1. Re:Usefulness? by symes · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If they have to look these cases up in the news instead of getting notified by hospitals and clinics, then the system is in a really bad shape.

      Very true - but might there be value in understanding the public's awareness of disease? One thing that this map might measure is a communitites awareness of transmissible disease and awareness *should* lead to protective behaviour. So if there's a mismatch between regular epidemiological stats and this map then perhaps public health bods should going in there telling people to wear condoms, wash their hands, etc.

    2. Re:Usefulness? by jamesh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The CDC, and local and state health departments all have a list of "reportable" diseases. (Things from TB to gonnorhea to ebola to SARS) If a doctor encounters them, they are supposed to notify the health authorities. That is for biostatistics and epidemiology purposes.

      What about non-reportable diseases? German Measles, Chicken Pox, and many others are not reportable, and most people wouldn't even bother going to the doctor if their kids came down with them (or is that not the case anymore? seems like everyone goes running to the doctor at the slightest hint of being unwell these days...)

      If the local news picked up on the latest round of Chicken Pox then this program might be able to pick up on it.

      I wonder if this Slashdot article is being reported on right now - google seems incredibly quick these days!

  9. What do they expect from this.. by bm_luethke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What the designers expect from this will highly color my opinion on it. The article linked isn't exactly clear on this.

    Do you want to track and try and predict disease breakouts in first world areas then probably decent, track world wide stuff then terrible. Outside of the obvious (self reporting) there is the whole issue of how much of the world is on the internet? While much of the first and even quite a bit of the second world countries are on the vast majority of the population doesn't have computers, let alone internet access.

    I can easily see many many great uses for this and I expect all of them to be explored at some point - I can also clearly see many not so great uses and I fully expect them to be used too. As the old saying goes, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

    In fact we can already see the maps being posted and used by people who have little to no understanding (if we are generous, I'm sure some understand and use them to further their own aims) to say things the data *can not say* and it isn't even mainstream yet. *sigh* It's like many things we have today - the greater amount of good it can do the greater amount of abuse one can use it for too.

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  10. Missing important diseases... by commlinx · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was looking forward to viewing the "erectile dysfunction" map based on viagra posts.

  11. Re:I still think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Better still, look at what symptoms people are searching for. Sure, you'll get a little noise every time a repeat of "House" is aired. However, when google gets systemic swaths of "butt bleeding" , "grey vomit" and "ocular hemorrhoids", bad things might be coming.

  12. wasted effort by timmarhy · · Score: 2, Interesting
    pathology labs already have a list of reportable diseases that the CDC monitor (you know, their job).

    why would anyone rely on reports from the media on what outbreaks are going around when you have trained professionals with lab equipment diagnosing these illnesses to begin with?

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  13. Another method... by longacre · · Score: 2, Informative

    The New York City Dept of Health monitors sales records of certain medications gathered from drugstore chains to detect disease outbreaks and biological attacks.

  14. Low on the Useful Meter by AlienIntelligence · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, it's not really a "map of disease"
    breakouts. In fact the map part is rather just
    a shiny pony?

    A list could have done just the same amount
    of good. Since for the most part each area has
    one pushpin that just sums up the area.
    [FWIW, I only looked at US pins.]

    I was expecting a cluster map, like you see on...
    Wunderground Wundermaps

    or on...
    http://www.housingmaps.com/

    At least if it was a cluster map I could
    look at an area and think, "I sure as heck
    ain't traveling there for work this week."

    I think if public interaction would be
    allowed, that would turn up the dial to
    a more 'fine' resolution rather than the
    grainy "Cryptosporidium in local pools"
    that I already know about cause I read
    the local paper. Or that the measles
    outbreak is almost contained. I can get
    that from the 10pm news.

    That further detracts from the usefulness
    of this website as it stands, because I
    doubt someone that reads the news less
    than I do, would be more likely to go to
    a website and search what new diseases
    popped up this week. [All hypochondriacs
    aside]

    It's a good seed/foundation as long as
    they have the financial stamina to keep
    it going.

    -AI

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  15. Emergency and Disaster Information Service by FeebleOldMan · · Score: 2, Informative

    At least if it was a cluster map I could look at an area and think, "I sure as heck ain't traveling there for work this week.

    On a global scale, check out the RSOE EDIS (Emergency and Disaster Information Service).

    It aggregates all sorts of disasters, from short-time events such as automobile accidents, and current tropical storms, to longer term ones, such as epidemics and forest fires.

  16. Calling bullshit... hello... bullshit do you hear? by denzacar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is not that I don't like the idea but it is essentially flawed.

    A) It still requires human input. No one reporting the disease does not mean that it is not there.
    Looking at former Yugoslavia and seeing only 1 case of meningitis while here in Bosnia everyone knows about (and it is on TV, radio and in the papers) the brucellosis epidemic that has been going on for months or even years maybe.

    B) That input must be made over the internet.
    Look at Africa. It is practically squeaky clean. There is one case diarrhea in the entire Botswana. And everyone is completely healthy up in the North.
    Could it possibly be due to the lack of internet-based inputs instead of due to the lack of diseases?
    Check out UK or the East Coast of USA. They are crawling with diseases.

    C) It should preferably be in English. Can the crawler read any of these articles:

    http://www.zzjzfbih.ba/content/view/66/13/
    http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3259389,00.html?maca=bos-rss-bos-all-1475-rdf
    http://www.slobodnadalmacija.hr/BiH/tabid/68/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/14733/Default.aspx
    http://www.dnevniavaz.ba/dogadjaji/panorame/bruceloza-prepolovila-prodaju-livanjskog-sira-
    http://www.blic.co.yu/repsrpska.php?id=44508

    Basically, what they come to is that there is a SHITLOAD of cases of brucellosis among the various cattle in Bosnia.
    And that it is going to stay that way for a long time, cause nobody is really doing anything about it.

    It is a fine idea, but unless you have every square kilometer of Earth covered with internet access and people who will report it in a language that the crawler understands - it is beyond useless.
    Even dangerous.
    Zoom out over Asia and turn on the Google in Chinese under Feeds. China's disease count jumps from around 40 to around 140.

    No. You can't fix all the problems by "putting it on the internet".

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