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Did NBC Alter the Olympics' Opening Ceremony?

techmuse writes "Viewing the 2008 Olympics opening ceremony online at NBC's Olympics website, you can see that the order in which the countries were presented was very different from the actual order of the countries in the ceremony, as listed at Wikipedia. NBC skipped roughly 100 countries ahead, then jumped back and forth, apparently delaying the appearance of the United States in its home market until later in the broadcast. (In fact, the US team was shown on the infield before they were shown marching!) NBC did not acknowledge this in its broadcast. Is NBC altering the reality of the broadcast to boost ratings? Was this true only online, or also in the live broadcast?"

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  1. This just in... by kcbanner · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ...American media alters the truth to boost ratings!

    Movie at 11.

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    1. Re:This just in... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Funny

      Movie at 11.

      Movie at about 12mid/11pm CT on NBC affilitates tonight... due to Olympic runover. You just never know when those taped sporting events will end.

    2. Re:This just in... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What major network television outfit publicly linked the American Antrax attacks falsely to Iraq back in 2001 and waited until 2006 to very quiet acknowledge (but not explain the source of) its deceit?

      Can boosting ratings, by feeding the American people false propaganda, be a treasonous offense?

    3. Re:This just in... by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Never mind in 'Soviet Russia'. Try current Russia.

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    4. Re:This just in... by nascarguy27 · · Score: 5, Informative
      If you had watched the actual broadcast on your local NBC affiliate, and then watched the online version, as I did, you would see that NBC screwed up while putting up the parade online. The segments between "commercial breaks", as in the content segments, were placed online out of the order they were originally broadcast in. That's why it appears not in order online.

      viewing the 2008 Olympics opening ceremony online at NBC's Olympics website, you can see that the order in which the countries were presented was very different from the actual order of the countries in the ceremony, as listed at Wikipedia. NBC skipped roughly 100 countries ahead, then jumped back and forth, apparently delaying the appearance of the United States in its home market until later in the broadcast. (In fact, the US team was shown on the infield before they were shown marching!) NBC did not acknowledge this in its broadcast. Is NBC altering the reality of the broadcast to boost ratings? Was this true only online, or also in the live broadcast?"

      emphasis mine

      To sum up NBC's 12 hour tape-delayed broadcast was in order, while the online version was shown out of order either due to NBC wanting it like that or, more likely, whoever put the parade online didn't pay attention as he/she was supposed to.

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    5. Re:This just in... by houghi · · Score: 5, Funny

      That is why I watch FOX. At least they are objective.

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    6. Re:This just in... by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...American media alters the truth to boost ratings!
      Movie at 11.

      Boosting ratings doesn't explain why CBS News edited its interview with McCain a few weeks ago. He came up with a goofy answer to some question and they rearranged the footage, splicing in his answer to some other question, in an attempt to make him appear to be less of an idiot. What was aired didn't match the transcript. Maybe next time they'll edit the transcript too.

      After that, I find this NBC-Olympics story unimpressive. NBC messed with footage of the Olympics? Who cares?

  2. Last Post!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Last Post!!!!

    1. Re:Last Post!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      first post in UK, 29th post in USA!

    2. Re:Last Post!!! by ADRenalyn · · Score: 5, Funny

      I actually posted first, but because I am in Beijing, so you Americans won't see my comment until about noon tomorrow.

  3. What web Broadcast? by jackb_guppy · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you are not Windows or Mac, there is no web broadcast.

    Gets me thinking, how did a Slashdoter view the web broadcast... Is someone using Windows?

    1. Re:What web Broadcast? by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Funny

      They are probably some WINE developer who is using the API for Windows 7 to view it

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  4. Other countries? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hi:

    I thought only America was in the Olympics. When did they start letting other countries participate?

    1. Re:Other countries? by Minwee · · Score: 5, Informative

      I thought only America was in the World Series. When did they start letting other countries participate?

      There we go, fixed it for you.

      Since you asked, it was in 1969. However it wasn't until 1992 that a clearly superior team from another country was allowed to win.

      They then won again in 1993, and the 1994 World Series was canceled when it looked like a foreign team was going to win for the third time in a row and the US teams refused to play unless the rules were changed in their favour.

      Now you know.

  5. olypics video tech by drDugan · · Score: 5, Informative

    I looked yesterday for where I could watch Olypics videos. Looks like I needed to instal some plugin from Microsoft that only works with "approved" browsers. Silverlight?

    I don't even mind if I'm bombarded with ads to see video. I would even pay for certain footage of one person I know competing in Beijing and some of the events. But a Microsoft player? No thanks.

    1. Re:olypics video tech by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Two questions for you:

      Why should the IOC do something that would devalue what it produces? The Olympics are run on a shoestring budget compared to other "profitable" sports.

      Why don't you care about the Winter Olympics in 2010?

  6. dilemma by matushorvath · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I don't know whether to boycott the Olympic Games because of China ignoring human rights or because it was converted to a festival of commerce. If it goes on like this, I may be soon able to boycott each day of Olympics for a different reason.

    1. Re:dilemma by lp.sresu · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's even more commercial if you watch it on NBC. I swear if one of the athletes so much as coughs they go to commercial. "Fuck seeing the games, here are more inspiring ads from our sponsors!"

    2. Re:dilemma by matushorvath · · Score: 5, Interesting

      In fact, I think you are right. I can probably find a separate reason to boycott each day of the Games even now. Doping, commercialization, the new swimsuit controversy, human rights, Tibet, Avery Brundage reaction to Munich attacks, bribes deciding who will host the games, Moscow and L.A. "half-games"... and of course also the Berlin propaganda games (remember, you broke the law first ;)

  7. Re:not a real issue by tinycorkscrew · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you had RTFA, you would know that's not the issue raised by the submitter. The question isn't how the countries were ordered, it is whether NBC's broadcast actually showed the countries in that order.

  8. Re:not a real issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    "make something up" like apply 3000 year old rules, accepted by all for ordering countries in Mandarin?

  9. Re:not a real issue by fmobus · · Score: 5, Informative
    You sure? Wikipedia says they do have a standard collation:

    All other nations marched in name order in the language of the host nation, which in this case is the Chinese language. The collation method used is based on the names as written in Simplified Chinese characters and is similar to that used in Chinese dictionaries. The names were sorted by the number of strokes in the first character of the name, then by the total number of strokes in each subsequent character.

    So no, they didn't make anything up.

  10. Broadcast version not altered by zsazsa · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just did a quick check of the recording of the live broadcast that I made. In every spot I checked, the order given on the Wikipedia pages matches the one in the broadcast. So, at least in the case of the broadcasted version, the ordering matches up.

    1. Re:Broadcast version not altered by zsazsa · · Score: 5, Informative

      Ok, I just checked the online version... and it's totally mixed up and out of order. It's definitely not the correct order as seen in the broadcast version.

  11. Re:not a real issue by smittyoneeach · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sounds like a Quentin Tarnetino flick.

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  12. Re:not a real issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah but more entertaining & original.

  13. Re:I'm sure I'm the only one on the planet, but... by p0tat03 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is more than a bunch of athletes my friend. Go back and watch the opening ceremonies, and tell me that country does not scare the fuck out of you. The level of discipline demonstrated by the performers, the sheer precision of it all... it all far exceeds anything the West could possibly pull off. And that's DAMNED scary.

    China is living proof that, if not bound by troublesome concepts like fairness, freedom, and morality, you can achieve great things. That scares the bejesus out of me. The entire Olympic exercise, for China at least, is one of intimidation. Here's them flexing their muscle, showing the world that, at a moment's notice, they can throw away billions, not feel the pinch, mobilize hundreds of thousands of people without any messy bureaucracy, and completely transform the entire city nearly overnight (well, 6 years, that's damned short).

  14. Re:Not news. by telso · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, editing is not an Olympic broadcasting tradition; it's an NBC Olympic broadcasting tradition. Most Olympic networks show as much as they can live, and only show events tape-delayed when there are two events worth watching at the same time (or they're showing recaps when it's night time where the Olympics are).

    NBC, on the other hand, instead of showing one of the most exciting opening ceremonies ever, decided to show The Today Show and, in my area, local news (apparently some loser got arrested for a domestic assault!).

    Sadly, this is not news either. Which is why most Americans who live on the Canadian border watch the Olympics on CBC.

  15. Re:not a real issue by carlzum · · Score: 5, Funny

    That would just lead to a rash of countries with names like A One Republic and AAA Reliable Nation (well, probably in the French equivalent).

  16. Re:OMGWTF!?!?! by Kredal · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Momento" sure made a lot more sense when it was shown on NBC!

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  17. Mr. Godwin please pick up the red courtesy phone. by Minwee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Indeed. I believe the practice started with the 1936 Berlin Olympics when the German newsreels showed only negatives of all of the track and field events, so that a white Jesse Owens could be seen beating the pants off of all the black athletes.

  18. Re:not a real issue by Andraax · · Score: 5, Informative

    I did, in fact, watch the entire broadcast. The countries were not broadcast in that order.

    I watched the entire broadcast (TiVo'd it) and was so impressed, I stayed up until 4am and watched it all over again. While I don't have the countries memorized in the order they appeared, but from what I do remember, it seems about the same as on the Wikipedia article. The US came in about 2/3 of the way down the list in the broadcast and they're #139 of 204 in Wikipedia (or roughly 2/3 of the way down the list).

    I did notice that a number of small countries got very short screen times and seemed "clipped", so I guess they edited out some content to shorten up the whole thing.

  19. Re:not a real issue by wallsg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Most Chinese dictionaries actually sort characters first by the radical and then by stoke count within each group of radicals.

    Fool! Look at the government sanctioned sites! There are NO radicals in China!