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Strange Ubuntu/Vista Compatibility Bug, Solved
Walter Vos writes "Since I've been running Vista and Ubuntu in dual boot with a shared FAT32 partition for my personal folders, I've been seeing some strange compatibility issues between these two operating systems. Somehow Vista locks the folders on the FAT32 partition that are used for folders like Documents, Downloads, etc. A blogpost I wrote gives a detailed description of the problem and a fix for it."
Can suck my dick.
NTFS-3G works pretty well. I'm not sure FAT32 is really necessary any more.
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It actually cannot suck dick. That's my main issue with it. I downloaded and installed Ubuntu with the full expectation of some dick sucking and it never came to pass. What the fuck is that about? You, sir, are a liar and a fraud.
My grandmother had a saying: 'blue and green should never be seen.' That's really all I have to say on the design of that blog.
That is all you need to do. Run XP, if you must have some awefull Winblows app, in a VM Most applications work with Wine. Vista is not needed and never will be.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
For a moment there I thought somebody had fixed Ubuntu bug one.
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Maybe if your crappy site actually rendered properly in browsers like... say... konqueror, we might give a damn...
Back to vista for you, for shame.
you cannot life in two world, because if you do, i will destroy you.
BANKAI!
for the sake of topic: dual boot is lame.
S.S.D.D
if the owner/group permissions were set properly in fstab an easier solution would prevail
that is all. nothing to see here, move along please, thank you...
Anybody want my mod points?
This isn't a "Vista" bug, as I've seen it happen frequently on a dual boot machine that is only XP+Ubuntu (no Vista)
I ran into this not that long ago and was really stuck scratching my head for awhile, as the fstab settings were definitely correct. However, after a little "chmod -R" magic on the entire FAT32 partition, it reset the recalcitrant permissions and everything worked fine.
... gets page linked from slashdot.
Well, at least I adblock.
Apparently, there is a common belief that Ubuntu and Linux are the same. Actually, there are many types of Linux operating systems like Gentoo, Slackware, Fedora, or SUSE. So Ubuntu => Linux, but !(Linux => Ubuntu). For example, I have run into this issue (not bug) using Slackware, Gentoo, and I think also OpenBSD. My solution is easier, though: stay out of 'My Documents'.
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Hmm, I'm having a problem with permissions between Vista and Ubuntu. What should I do?
Adopt a philosophy of ideological inflexibility, intolerance, ignorance, immaturity, and narcissism?
...or...
Run a shell script or two?
Decisions, decisions...
Yeah seriously, why the fuck is this on Slashdot? I'm not the "stuff that matters" whiner type but either timothy never used a Linux distro and thinks this is newsworthy, or this is the slowest news day ever :).
user discovers chmod ... blogs about it ... boooooring.
like phosphorescent desert buttons singing one familiar song
that's it, i'm outa here. of all the years i stood by slashdot, this post just did it for me.
good bye news for non nerds
good bye dupes
good bye first posts
good bye trolls
good bye horrible commenting system and the stupid slider
it is me
But this probably isn't that complicated. For year and years in strange situations or another, when files were placed on a fat32 partition in windows in certain conditions, users in Linux couldn't freely access the file unless the partition was mounted with "-o umask=000". In fact I just bought a shitty thumb drive, stuck it in my laptop running Slack and the hotplugging daemon (yes... slackware has that oooOOOOOoh) picked it up and mounted it. I opened it up and saw they had this E3 something or another windows app on it, so I tried to delete it. Nope, permission issues. So I manually unmounted and mounted with umask=000, and i could delete it fine.
I did RTFA, and I must say this is the dumbest post ever. If any fs coders can figure out what issue this person was having, I'm curious, for it doesn't sound like anything new at all.
The Effectiveness of the Ubuntu Forums
(The link this person gives in his blog post)
I swear to christ, reading that page made me want to kill a kitten.
either timothy never used a Linux distro and thinks this is newsworthy, or this is the slowest news day ever
Timothy was last seen putting Ubuntu on an XO. He's been using Linux at least since I met him in 1999.
It's August, every day is a slow news day :)
c'mon mods, that is reasonably geeky funny in a twisted way.
Twitter is typical of argumentative gasbags in his wild invocations to the irrational, the magic, and the fantastic to dramatize his views.
well, I know where you generated this, but it's just damn scary that most of it is factually correct...
but there's no 'Mod article down'
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Ha, I was so thinking the same thing. The gist of this "story" is that they had a problem getting Vista and Ubuntu to work together (*mock gasp* I've never heard of such a thing!) and then proceeded to fix it. *yawn* To top it all off the linked article is a blog post from the submitter. Give me a break.
God, schmod. I want my monkey man!
NTFS-3G works pretty well. I'm not sure FAT32 is really necessary any more.
Unless you have an SDHC card that you're sneakernetting between your PC and a digital camera, or you have an external hard drive that you're sneakernetting between a Windows or Ubuntu PC and either a Mac or an Xbox 360. Cameras, Macs, and game consoles tend not to work with NTFS out of the box.
What keeps people from implementing ext3 support for Windows? The Linux source code is obviously available, so are Windows ext2 drivers reimplementations that aren't using existing code? Or is there some deeper problem?
For a while, Microsoft once charged roughly $1,000 for the "IFS Kit" used to develop installable file system drivers. To work around this, programs such as "Explore2fs" had to act like WinRAR and 7-Zip, where you don't really mount a partition but you can still drag files in and out. (The price appears to have dropped since then.) For another thing, 64-bit versions of Windows Vista put an annoying "Test Mode" banner in all four corners of the desktop if the user installs a device driver that hasn't been signed by a publisher who pays an annual fee of at least $200 to a commercial certificate authority trusted by Microsoft.
If you think it's slow now, just wait. Tomorrow we're discussing "Ubuntu, 'Where's root!'"
It's not necessarily you being lame, it's either game developers being lame by not porting their games
Up until very recently, it was also video card manufacturers being lame by not making OpenGL drivers for Linux that the community can help debug. But ATI, one of the two makers of chipsets for video cards,[1] plans to stop being lame. And some people would claim that it's distribution maintainers being lame by not providing more thorough binary compatibility across multiple families of GNU/Linux distributions. ("What's an LSB again?")
[1] Intel GMA is not available on a card.
You obviously never really did fit in here. I mean, a true slashdotter would have titled his post "Last post!"
What the fuck is the issue here? This is "normal" behaviour, Windows Vista sets the System bit (don't ask) on the directories, and that way they get mounted -ro for everyone but 'root'. Ever heard of the command "attrib" on DOS? Bug my ass.
For crying out loud, *THIS IS NOT A BUG*! Bloody idiots, take an old MS Dos manual and look up ATTRIB, *READ THE FUCKING MANUAL*
Amarok has a documented performance issue with NTFS-3G: http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#dd
The NTFS-3G web site has many tips what could be the problem for high CPU usage: http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#cpu100
Sometimes NTFS defragmentation makes a magic.
The focus of the NTFS-3G development is reliability and functionality over performance. The performance optimizations started only recently and the current development versions perform close or sometimes surprisingly even better than ext3.
On a whim, I checked for FAT64 and found it does exist (sort of) on Vista already. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT
The world is made by those who show up for the job.
MSDOS' read-only bit is much more like the immutable bit in ext2 than a true permission bit, IMHO. chattr -i should be required, rather than chmod u+w.
One AC to another, I thought adblock only kept you from seeing the ad, so wouldn't he still get the revenue? I am just trying to understand why you feel superior.
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