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Strange Ubuntu/Vista Compatibility Bug, Solved
Walter Vos writes "Since I've been running Vista and Ubuntu in dual boot with a shared FAT32 partition for my personal folders, I've been seeing some strange compatibility issues between these two operating systems. Somehow Vista locks the folders on the FAT32 partition that are used for folders like Documents, Downloads, etc. A blogpost I wrote gives a detailed description of the problem and a fix for it."
NTFS-3G works pretty well. I'm not sure FAT32 is really necessary any more.
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It actually cannot suck dick. That's my main issue with it. I downloaded and installed Ubuntu with the full expectation of some dick sucking and it never came to pass. What the fuck is that about? You, sir, are a liar and a fraud.
For a moment there I thought somebody had fixed Ubuntu bug one.
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I thought was supposed to be "red and green should never be seen?"
if the owner/group permissions were set properly in fstab an easier solution would prevail
This isn't a "Vista" bug, as I've seen it happen frequently on a dual boot machine that is only XP+Ubuntu (no Vista)
I ran into this not that long ago and was really stuck scratching my head for awhile, as the fstab settings were definitely correct. However, after a little "chmod -R" magic on the entire FAT32 partition, it reset the recalcitrant permissions and everything worked fine.
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Apparently, there is a common belief that Ubuntu and Linux are the same. Actually, there are many types of Linux operating systems like Gentoo, Slackware, Fedora, or SUSE. So Ubuntu => Linux, but !(Linux => Ubuntu). For example, I have run into this issue (not bug) using Slackware, Gentoo, and I think also OpenBSD. My solution is easier, though: stay out of 'My Documents'.
Hmm, I'm having a problem with permissions between Vista and Ubuntu. What should I do?
Adopt a philosophy of ideological inflexibility, intolerance, ignorance, immaturity, and narcissism?
...or...
Run a shell script or two?
Decisions, decisions...
Yeah seriously, why the fuck is this on Slashdot? I'm not the "stuff that matters" whiner type but either timothy never used a Linux distro and thinks this is newsworthy, or this is the slowest news day ever :).
user discovers chmod ... blogs about it ... boooooring.
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I am wondering why dual boot is "lame"... I dual boot for a couple of reasons. A) For games; B) For Windows apps that I need for work (although, I avoid this now by having XP in vmWare); C) For cross-platform debugging/test (again, vmWare to the rescue); and D) my microscope software, which, alas I can't get to find the scope using vmWare... I have no idea why.
I have 3 machines at home plus my laptop. And I still dual boot on my main machine. Living life in two worlds aint that bad.
Well I guess your grandma isn't using XP....
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that's it, i'm outa here. of all the years i stood by slashdot, this post just did it for me.
good bye news for non nerds
good bye dupes
good bye first posts
good bye trolls
good bye horrible commenting system and the stupid slider
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But this probably isn't that complicated. For year and years in strange situations or another, when files were placed on a fat32 partition in windows in certain conditions, users in Linux couldn't freely access the file unless the partition was mounted with "-o umask=000". In fact I just bought a shitty thumb drive, stuck it in my laptop running Slack and the hotplugging daemon (yes... slackware has that oooOOOOOoh) picked it up and mounted it. I opened it up and saw they had this E3 something or another windows app on it, so I tried to delete it. Nope, permission issues. So I manually unmounted and mounted with umask=000, and i could delete it fine.
I did RTFA, and I must say this is the dumbest post ever. If any fs coders can figure out what issue this person was having, I'm curious, for it doesn't sound like anything new at all.
It's lame that people feel like they're being held hostage by an operating system that they don't otherwise want, and it's lame that MS is making money off that. If you actually want Windows for one reason or another, then it's not lame at all.
The Effectiveness of the Ubuntu Forums
(The link this person gives in his blog post)
I swear to christ, reading that page made me want to kill a kitten.
either timothy never used a Linux distro and thinks this is newsworthy, or this is the slowest news day ever
Timothy was last seen putting Ubuntu on an XO. He's been using Linux at least since I met him in 1999.
It's August, every day is a slow news day :)
but there's no 'Mod article down'
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Ha, I was so thinking the same thing. The gist of this "story" is that they had a problem getting Vista and Ubuntu to work together (*mock gasp* I've never heard of such a thing!) and then proceeded to fix it. *yawn* To top it all off the linked article is a blog post from the submitter. Give me a break.
God, schmod. I want my monkey man!
NTFS-3G works pretty well. I'm not sure FAT32 is really necessary any more.
Unless you have an SDHC card that you're sneakernetting between your PC and a digital camera, or you have an external hard drive that you're sneakernetting between a Windows or Ubuntu PC and either a Mac or an Xbox 360. Cameras, Macs, and game consoles tend not to work with NTFS out of the box.
And of course when Linux is finally desktop-ready they'll see it as too mainstream for them and move on to BSD, Minix or Solaris.
As some already have.
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What keeps people from implementing ext3 support for Windows? The Linux source code is obviously available, so are Windows ext2 drivers reimplementations that aren't using existing code? Or is there some deeper problem?
For a while, Microsoft once charged roughly $1,000 for the "IFS Kit" used to develop installable file system drivers. To work around this, programs such as "Explore2fs" had to act like WinRAR and 7-Zip, where you don't really mount a partition but you can still drag files in and out. (The price appears to have dropped since then.) For another thing, 64-bit versions of Windows Vista put an annoying "Test Mode" banner in all four corners of the desktop if the user installs a device driver that hasn't been signed by a publisher who pays an annual fee of at least $200 to a commercial certificate authority trusted by Microsoft.
yeah, :) you are so right. i though i'm just the only one who think like that.
i planning to move to OpenBSD, just after this project done.
just, wait for it.
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This is why I really think a version of XNA ported to Mono would be totally awesome. Ideally, it'd allow binary compatibility between games written against that API on any platform.
Of course, this is probably a pipe dream.
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If you think it's slow now, just wait. Tomorrow we're discussing "Ubuntu, 'Where's root!'"
It's not necessarily you being lame, it's either game developers being lame by not porting their games
Up until very recently, it was also video card manufacturers being lame by not making OpenGL drivers for Linux that the community can help debug. But ATI, one of the two makers of chipsets for video cards,[1] plans to stop being lame. And some people would claim that it's distribution maintainers being lame by not providing more thorough binary compatibility across multiple families of GNU/Linux distributions. ("What's an LSB again?")
[1] Intel GMA is not available on a card.
You obviously never really did fit in here. I mean, a true slashdotter would have titled his post "Last post!"
Nor has she ever gone outside in her life.
You install andLinux.
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Let's just make it red, blue, AND green should never been seen.
Hey, did it just get awfully dark in here?
The laws of probability forbid it!
So you're saying everything should be red?
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What the fuck is the issue here? This is "normal" behaviour, Windows Vista sets the System bit (don't ask) on the directories, and that way they get mounted -ro for everyone but 'root'. Ever heard of the command "attrib" on DOS? Bug my ass.
For crying out loud, *THIS IS NOT A BUG*! Bloody idiots, take an old MS Dos manual and look up ATTRIB, *READ THE FUCKING MANUAL*
Amarok has a documented performance issue with NTFS-3G: http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#dd
The NTFS-3G web site has many tips what could be the problem for high CPU usage: http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#cpu100
Sometimes NTFS defragmentation makes a magic.
The focus of the NTFS-3G development is reliability and functionality over performance. The performance optimizations started only recently and the current development versions perform close or sometimes surprisingly even better than ext3.
I'd suggest she take a walk out bush (the terrain not the bloke). In heavily wooded areas you get... blue and green. If it works in nature, the only things stopping it working in production is incompetence and prejudice. However, you lead me to believe that she is no longer using that saying... regards.
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The whole saying is 'blue and green should never be seen without something in between.' 'tis a fashion thing, I personally disagree with. However, I have only a few people coming to me for fashion advice.
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On a whim, I checked for FAT64 and found it does exist (sort of) on Vista already. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT
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It's odd PS3/2/1, XBox/360, Wii, and Linux Games etc games won't work under Windows ....!
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Back in my day, games booted themselves and didn't need no stinkin' operating system to run underneath them. They took full control of the hardware and provided their own OS designed just to handle access to the disk, i.e. a Disk Operating System, often customized to the game to reduce piracy.
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