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Wealthy Mexicans Getting Chipped in Case of Abduction

Because the number of abductions in Mexico has jumped almost 40% in the past 3 years, the wealthy are getting subcutaneous transmitters so they can be tracked when kidnapped. Xega, the Mexican security firm which makes the chips, has seen a sales jump of 13% this year. The company injects the crystal-encased chip, the size and shape of a grain of rice, into clients' bodies with a syringe. The chip then sends radio signals to a larger device carried by the client with a global positioning system in it. A satellite can then be used to find the location of the missing person. Things must be a lot worse in Mexico than I thought.

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  1. Please make it stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh.. the humanity...

    1. Re:Please make it stop by negRo_slim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because the number of abductions in Mexico has jumped almost 40% in the past 3 years

      Okay, well 40% increase doesn't neccesarily mean its a large number or ever was to begin with.

      Xega, the Mexican security firm which makes the chips, has seen a sales jump of 13% this year.

      Once again, if the their sales were only a handful prior... But really the big issue is we're afraid that at some point in the future we will see this mandated by the government and a case like this will be used as justification of the need. Really though, I would think those with the most wealth and/or power would be the least likely to want to be tracked.

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    2. Re:Please make it stop by DaedalusHKX · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You know what I find stupid?

      How everyone's worried about their kids being kidnapped, yet I was born in a country where human slavery (and the kidnappings that resulted in said human trade) was alive and well. Interestingly, I never got kidnapped and neither did any of my siblings, or cousins, or whatever else. Most of their deaths, of those few that died, were due to political executions by the government or "army service"... which was the same thing. Undesirables with undesirable views were always assigned to the unit that got the least training, shittiest gear, and front line service.

      So my comment stands. I have valid experience with not being kidnapped in a country rampant with kidnappings and both organ and flesh trade. If you were born, and live in the USA or a "western" country. You do not have such experience. You've lived your whole life in a nice safe haven. It was made so not by government. (If that were true, then China and the former USSR would've been the safest places on the planet.) Safe places are made by the bad guys not knowing when they'll not be coming home. It is also made by people learning NOT to get into a car with or taking candy from strangers. This is increasingly so with so called rich people. Especially when said rich people actually can move their residence on a whim. But hey, better off as cattle than walking without fear.

      So suit yourself. You pack your chip, I'll pack my Colt, good training, and good mindset. If we both run into bad guys, and can't escape, lets see which one of us is more likely to make it home. Me with my training and proper mindset, or you with your chip. Hope the badguys don't decide that they're kidnapping you to send you home in a salsa bag as a "message"... otherwise that chip won't really help you much if all they want to do is send a message. As for me, they either take me by complete surprise, and take a chance at having to neutralize a large "neighborhood" where we look out for each other, or they stay the hell away. So much simpler :) And for the record, I don't flaunt my wealth IRL, what little I have. Wealth is for my personal well being, not to flaunt in my neighbors' eyes. I help mine. This is the sticks out here man, if you get missing here, the only thing the chip will help, is to find the wild animal that got you, presuming it actually ate the part with the chip :)

      Its you city slickers that need protection by others. Out here, you provide your own, or you don't go home. Most of the folks I met here, whether sticks living for life, or "reformed city slickers", few seem to need someone to "make them safe". We got 3 sheriff deputies, which are still 3 too many, but at least they're nice enough to not interfere with people's lives. Strangely, we don't need SWAT or hostage rescue. Why? Dunno, maybe a different culture out here than some of the places you've been around. AFAIC, I believe you lay your own bed. If you need to be chipped like property to be "safe" or to have your kids be safe, i just hope you don't complain when you're treated like property. Remember, property has no rights. When you take on its likeness, you become it. Hope its to your liking, and know I will be among those who respects your decision and never lifts a finger to help you.

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  2. Wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Great. Now when you're kidnapped the first thing they'll do is cut off a chunk of your flesh. Or even just stick you in a metallic sack so that the radio signal can't escape.

    1. Re:Wonderful by Freeside1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The chip then sends radio signals to a larger device carried by the client with a global positioning system in it.

      Or they can just smash the 'device' to bits. I fail to see the utility of this system.

    2. Re:Wonderful by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pretty much... gives the term "Faraday Cage" a whole new meaning.

    3. Re:Wonderful by noidentity · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Think "watchdog timer". It's like all you sysadmins who can tell when a system goes down, not because it sends a "Hey, I just went down" signal, but because it stops sending a "hey I'm up" signal.

    4. Re:Wonderful by tompaulco · · Score: 5, Funny

      Great. Now when you're kidnapped the first thing they'll do is cut off a chunk of your flesh. Or even just stick you in a metallic sack so that the radio signal can't escape.
      But wait! The best part is, if you try to tamper with the internal device, it explodes violently, marking everything in the vicinity with a blue die, and rendering the kidnapped person useless.

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  3. Hmmm, what could be the problem here? by SengirV · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The chip then sends radio signals to a larger device carried by the client with a global positioning system in it.

    Call me crazy, but I think I found a flaw in their system.

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  4. Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? by ergo98 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Call me crazy, but I think I found a flaw in their system.

    You're just too cynical.

    In other news, I had a personal transportation chip injected into my feet. So long as I'm occupying a moving vehicle, it works perfectly at transporting me around.

  5. All aboard the clue train. by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Things must be a lot worse in Mexico than I thought.

    Somebody hasn't been paying attention. Kidnapping is an entire industry in countries south of the Rio Grande, especially in Mexico and Brazil, and has been for at least a decade.

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    1. Re:All aboard the clue train. by antibryce · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not just south of the border either. There have been over 200 kidnappings in the US this year so far.

      But hey don't call for tighter border security or you're a racist!

  6. Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Funny

    Call me crazy, but I think I found a flaw in their system.

    That would depend on where they're hiding it...

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  7. So exactly what is the implant for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you need to carry a "larger device" with you to send the signal, why do you need an implant?

    1. Re:So exactly what is the implant for? by markana · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's simple.

      If they get thrown in jail, then can dig the implants out of their arms, and use them to make a primitive laser to cut open the lock.

      Of course, it takes 2 implants, and a piece of an old bedframe....

    2. Re:So exactly what is the implant for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      My guess is that if the implant can no longer communicate with the larger device, a trigger goes off to notify the service to start looking for that person in the last known location. After that, you're really working with a perimeter that grows by time.

      Mij

  8. What happens when... by pwnies · · Score: 5, Insightful

    a common thief finds a way to access the positions of all of these rich people. Seems to me an easy way to establish targets, not protect them.

  9. This is why. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is why we should put more R&D in implanting Laser Eyes. Whos gonna kidnap you if you can shoot lasers out of your eyes.

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  10. ewww by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i hope buyers realize that all they are doing is changing kidnapping standard operating procedure

    kidnappers will now locate the chip probably with nothing more than a $20 standard wall stud finder, then reach into the victim's skin with sharp nosed dirty pliers and toss the chip on the street. then probably send the victim's family a picture of the gaping wound for proof of untraceability and bonus horror factor

    ewwww

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  11. Re:Nice when the victims make it easy to find them by PalmKiller · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I thought in mexico the police and "the organization" are one and the same.

  12. This technology was mentioned by toby · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In a Brazilian movie called Manda Bala . Abductions are a thriving industry in São Paulo, Brazil, and the movie focuses on the common practice of cutting off all or part of a hostage's ear (or finger) in order to expedite a ransom payment.

    It is a generally thought provoking movie, with several memorable interviews, and at least some discussion of root causes of the problem (corruption in government among them, although the government of Luiz "Lula" da Silva may be making progress against it, despite so far losing the battle to protect protected areas of Amazon wilderness - a problem also intimately connected with corruption).

    However the movie is deeply marred by the inclusion of the anonymous São Paulo businessman, "Mr M" - a self-obsessed, vacuous nitwit, apparently American and perhaps a conveniently interviewable associate of the American filmmaker? whose ego was no doubt unduly boosted by his part in the film. Unfortunately, whatever this individual had to say about being "chipped" is unlikely to betray any insights: In a city known for violent carjackings, this guy's response was to bulletproof his ostentatious Porsche, instead of simply driving a less conspicuous car. I stopped caring about his fate very early into the film; one is tempted to say he need not worry about being kidnapped as nobody would miss him to pay a ransom.

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  13. Re: Wealthy Mexicans Getting Chipped in Case of Ab by ChibiOne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No. It is the result of impunity and corrpution of the police.

    These thugs are not humble, starving individuals trying to feed their families. They are well organized criminal bands, with links to corrupt current (or ex) cops, who know that given the inefficient and corrupt justice system that prevails, know they can and will get away with it.

    Google for the Fernando Marti kidnapping and murder to get a glimpse of what's currently happening down here in Mexico.

  14. Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Good news everyone. It's a supository!

  15. Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? by gewalkeriq · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, you're right. I'll wait for the "Hollywood" version of this technology where the constraints of physics, etc. are swiftly banished by handwavium, ignorefactium and the ever popular technologyisjustmagicium.

  16. Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? by Panoramix · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think the story is wrong. This company, "Xega" (website, in Spanish) seems to be offering two different products. One is the "Verichip", which seems to be a subcutaneous RFID chip intended for identification. Like for (very paranoid) access control, or medical emergencies.

    The other product is called "VIP" and seems to be a GPS + GPRS device. You press a button on that thing and it transmits your current position to some server.

    I see no indication that both gadgets are related in any way. Well, the website is all fluff, so I can't really say, but I think the story is mixing them up.

    Still, that "VIP" thing does strike me as rather useless, since the first thing a kidnapper does is point a gun at you and make sure you stay still, with your hands in view. And the second thing is emptying your pockets.

    And yes, I live in Mexico, and I've been kidnapped... well, just a couple hours, while I was being mugged. See I got off from work around midnight, hailed a cab in the street and boarded it. The driver took off, I even chatted with that fucker. But once we were in a dark-ish, lonely street, he suddendly stopped the car, pointed a gun at me, and two men from another car that was following us quickly got into the cab. One of them pressed a knife against my stomach and ordered me to "act naturally". They took me for the "ATM ride" (cash withdrawals from different ATM machines all over town, until all the cards were dry). They also got the cash I was carrying on me, of course, as well as my laptop (powerbook 5300... shit, I miss that ugly brick). They gave me back my wallet with my IDs, and some papers from work I asked them to take out of the laptop case. They dropped me off at a Metro station.

    This was back in '97 I think, in Mexico City. A month later I was living in Guadalajara, and haven't had any such experiences since.

  17. Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? by Panoramix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Heh, no, I was actually born here, and I love living in Mexico. Yeah, that tale about the mugging probably gives off a different impression, but considering it's pretty much the only time I've been mugged in almost 40 years, I think that's not a bad record. In fact, I think Guadalajara is a remarkably nice place to live, though I don't think I can explain the "attraction". I could hardly be objective about it anyway.

    I've got American and British friends who live here (as you may know, there's a big expat community in Guadalajara, and in Ajijic near lake Chapala). I've never asked them about this, but I will now. What I can tell you now is, I don't think there's any particular objective advantage. I mean, neither luxury homes nor sex are cheap (I assume you meant good looking hookers there). Beer probably is, though, heh. Look, I'm not really up to date on the cost of living in the States. I guess Mexico may be a bit cheaper, but I'm sure it's not much cheaper.

    I also don't think there are serious disadvantages: we've got all the utilities and public services you're used to in the US, from highways to sanitation to very decent health care. You'll find all the amenities too, say shops, restaurants, entertainment... in fact, most are the same chains and brands, only a bit cheaper perhaps. And of course we've got broadband everywhere, which is probably the most important thing for /. people.

    So I guess it boils down to personal taste. Some people just like it. Maybe it's the locations, or the weather, or the slower pace. Perhaps healthier and tastier food? You know, we're famous for that shit. Or meeting friendly people with an interesting culture. Who knows?

    Oh, and about that last item: there certainly are gringo haters. From your experience, it seems that's the kind of people you've been meeting here. I'm sorry 'bout that, fwiw. There's also gringo lovers, that goddamn malinchista pricks, I find them really annoying, haha. But I've got to say, I'm convinced that most of the population is just sensible people no worse or better than in the US or elsewhere, and you can probably make good friends if you give them (and yourself) a chance.

    Say, if you ever find yourself stranded in Guadalajara, bored enough to overcome the natural distrust, drop me an email, I'll take you to a couple cantinas, and perhaps the lucha libre. And if you really behave yourself I may introduce you to some ladies. Maybe then you'll get the "vibe" or whatever it is. Or maybe you won't, but you'll probably have a laugh anyway. And no, I won't give you any shit about dumb gringo chumps, but I won't take any shit about smelly beaners either.

    Cheers.