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Linux Not Supported For Democratic Convention Video

bucketoftruth writes "If you browse to the Democratic Convention website and attempt to check out any of their upcoming streams, you bump into the following limitation: 'We're sorry, but the Democratic Convention video web site isn't compatible with your operating system and/or browser. Please try again on a computer with the following Compatible operating systems: Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista, or a Mac with Tiger (OS 10.4) or Leopard (OS 10.5). Compatible browsers: Internet Explorer (version 6 or later), Firefox (version 2), or, if you are on a Mac, Safari (version 3.1) also works.'"

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  1. Re:So what? by drpimp · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have not used it, but for what it's worth. Moonlight

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  2. Plug-in overload by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I get to the site I am told I need the Silverlight plugin AND 'Move Networks Player'. Oh, and it proposes a Java Applet to install it!? Couldn't they just streaming WMV or something less complicated? Looks like they need someone to go over and give them an explanation on how to do things right.

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  3. Re:Priorities by Adambomb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I do not want the Democratic party wasting its money on a partisan Operating System war by supporting a fringe OS that has less than 1% share of the desktop.

    Odd.

    If it is compatible with the firefox 2 browser, then they have already spent the money on supporting a fringe OS. In fact, it would have taken them MORE effort to give error messages based on OS type as well as browser type like they have than to leave well enough alone.

    So in effect, they wasted your money on a partisan operating system war by thinking theres even a difference between the two once its browser compatible. Malice or stupidity, it's still a waste of manpower as that stands right now.

    Not exactly a platform (heh) breaking issue, but still rather ignorant of them.

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  4. Deep Throat Say: by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ugh. What could these possibly offer that couldn't be done with, say, Flash?

    Development paid for by Microsoft?

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  5. Well, same deal as... by Darundal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...with the Beijing Olympics. They are using Silverlight on the site for the streaming video. Out of curiosity, was the error reported the error given when one tries to use FF on Linux to view the streaming stuff, or does it pop that up when you try to view the stream in FF with Moonlight? The Olympics streaming video on the site refused to work even with a tested Moonlight install with me.

  6. Re:Furthermore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Biden his VP choice is against net neutrality [gizmodo.com]"

    So is McCain. Biden was selected to assist in foreign relations type tasks and to play devil's advocate for Obama (who is for net neutrality)

  7. Re:User agent by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Any chance this works with Moonlight? Or is that plug-in a Window-only plugin, rather than some sort of Silverlight plugin?

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  8. No, Security Related by Nymz · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The need for political parties to protect their content from hackers has been discussed on /. before and the Democrat and Republican national conventions have some similar, and some different, philosophies on handling information access and control.

    "For virtual attendees, the Democrat convention site is providing a progressive web experience (high definition Silverlight video , Digital Rights Management), while the Republican convention site is providing a more conservative web experience of..." - excerpt from August 21st Journal

  9. Re:Obama hates linux! by aarku · · Score: 2, Interesting
  10. The party is screwed up by baggins2001 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I attended a number of conventions within our state and if it is as screwed up everywhere else as it is here, they could actually lose.
    They lost my vote when Obama voted for immunity for Telco's.
    I was hoping that they were going to be on the forefront of technology issues. They weren't even close. During the computer/technology meeting they spent 45 + minutes during a 2 hour session talking about Short Wave Radio issues.
    Finally some other people took over the meeting and it started getting more towards computer and technology issues. but basically a lot of it was hog wash.
    They spent a lot of time talking about caps on downloads. They were upset that they couldn't download more than 10 movies during a month.
    I'm sorry but I feel there are more pressing issues, like broadband for rural areas, software usage in schools and government, open internet. Just to name a few. They were all more interested in who got elected, not what they were getting elected for.
    Later I had someone come talk to me about my blog. He told me there were some things we just shouldn't talk about. He never mentioned my blog, but I think it was more than a coincidence that he came and talked to me the day after I posted the info.
    I met some good concerned people there, but the people in charge were totally off the wall and I felt that it was more of a way to pacify the masses, making them have a feeling that they had an input to the party. I left the convention feeling like they were so screwed up that they could actually lose the next election.
    And I bet it is going to be a lot closer than they thought.
    It's going to be interesting, a large number of Republicans don't want McCain and a large number of Democrats don't want Obama.

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    1. Re:The party is screwed up by QuasiEvil · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm an old guard Republican who can't stand what the party has become (religious nutjobs controlling the platform, the huge, possibly illegal and mostly pointless expansion of federal powers under Pres. Shrubby, the massive overspending, messing with science to meet your political goals, etc.), so I jumped ship in 2004 and will probably do it again this year. I'm really more of a Libertarian, but when the Dems start looking like the party of smaller and more responsible government, you know that things are just royally out of whack.

      I can't say as Obama lost my vote with the telecom immunity, but he came damn close. Anybody who values our rights that little I simply don't trust to run the country in accordance with the principles on which it was founded - namely the rule of law. However, McCain hasn't done much to prove himself there either, so...

      At this point, it's still a toss-up as to who I'll vote for. McCain is at least a palatable alternative, since he's not as closely tied as most current Republicans with the social conservatives that I so despise. The biggest issues for me are fixing our energy mess (work on new transportation fuel alternatives and start seriously supporting nuclear and renewable energy sources) and fixing the tanking economy (propping up the currency, reducing the debt, stabilizing credit markets, etc.) Iraq, while bad, will most likely be bad either way. Get out now and things go to hell, stay there and things go to hell.

      However, given that either Obama or McCain will win, I will figure out which I think is the lesser evil and vote that way. No, I will not vote third party. I might as well contribute a vote to determining the outcome rather than just boosting some third party candidate into the low single digit percentages.

    2. Re:The party is screwed up by stevenj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They lost my vote when Obama voted for immunity for Telco's.

      Um, Obama actually voted against immunity for telcos regarding the wiretap issue. (See e.g. this news article) McCain, on the other hand, voted for immunity.

      But don't let facts get in the way of your voting decisions.

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    3. Re:The party is screwed up by gandhi_2 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Hi!

      I'd like to point out that the US involvement in Vietnam was started under a Democrat.

      I'd like to also remind you that Somalia was under a Democrat. Oh, and there was Bosnia, et al.

      Oh... I know. How about all the leftist regimes of modern history? Red China, the Nazis, the Soviet Union, North Korea, the Fascists (the real ones, not the insult variety)...yep...From Gov't control of all commerce (fascism), to government control of wealth (socialism) to government control of everything (communism)...oh yeah, the left wing agenda puts the fun in Fundamental Totalitarianism.

      Don't get me wrong: Thomas Jefferson wouldn't piss on today's Republicans if they were on fire.... but I think it's cute how you think Democrats are perfect. (:

  11. Re:just like the olympics! by markdavis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Of course anything done by NBC will support their overlords (Microsoft) to the exclusion of others. That should not be a surprise to anyone. But a political party best think twice before immediately shutting out at least 10% of the possible viewers (Linux) and making it slightly to extremely difficult for at least 33% of everyone else.

  12. Not working on my Mac by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Okay, on my Mac it doesn't work in either Firefox or Safari. I have intentionally not installed the Silverlight plugin; but it doesn't tell me I need it! It just says it's not compatible with my browser - and then tells me to use... my current OS and browser.

    There's a web developer that's on the ball...

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    1. Re:Not working on my Mac by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Let me get this straight, you went to the site, got the "install silverlight" message, declined, and you were surprised at getting an (incorrect) error message?

      Nope. I never get the "Install Silverlight" message - my browser (whether FF3 or Safari, on 10.5.4) is apparently being disqualified before that point.

      The only reason I know the streams require Silverlight is because it's been mentioned in this Slashdot discussion.

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  13. Re:Tech Savvy Convention by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hey, now. They didn't say it'd be "technologically-savvy". They said it'd be the "most technologically-savvy". They don't necessarily have to do well to live up to that claim, it's relative.

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  14. They're not supporting Macs, either by rk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At least, not mine, despite their page stating that they support "Mac with Tiger (OS 10.4) or Leopard (OS 10.5)." and "Firefox (version 2), or, if you are on a Mac, Safari (version 3.1) also works." I have a Mac running Tiger, Safari 3.1, and Firefox 2, and I got the "We're sorry" message with both.

    Aren't Mac users a big chunk of the core Democratic Party base? ;-)

  15. Re:OS Related? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can Flash do live streaming ?

    Yes. The video object is independent from the connection object which is independent from the streaming object. It's rather trivial to setup a live stream.

    And in case you're wondering how I know that, I was mucking around with creating a Flash 7 video player last night. Does anyone know how to get MTASC to output uncompressed SWF files rather than compressed SWC files? (Not to be confused with the confusingly named SWC class libraries. Bleh.) Flash Studio has a nice option for that, but SWFMILL and MTASC don't seem to want to listen. :-/

  16. Re:So what? by jonnythan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm no Microsoft fanboy or anything, but I've been pretty impressed with Silverlight.

    I spent a lot of time watching live streaming Olympics video at NBCOlympics.com, and the Silverlight video feed and functionality was much, much better than I've ever seen from Flash. I'm not even sure if Flash can do live streaming video, especially at that high quality with any efficiency.

  17. Re:So what? by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interesting how these half-wit Microsoft conspiracy types get +5 Insightful when the site also supports OSX and Firefox.

    I'd say a Mac running OSX and Firefox is a much larger enemy to Microsoft than Linux is, given the install base, but what do I know?

  18. Re:Tech Savvy Convention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    "especially the one used mostly by the "technologically-savvy" people." Why do you say this?

    Because it's true.

    Not that it means you're not tech-savvy if you don't, but if you do use it chances are you're at least somewhat savvy.

    On the other hand, you people are forgetting that politicians cater to the gullible, unquestioning public- they know most tech-savvy people will actually use that thing called Google to check their record, the truth of their statements, etc. instead of accepting the spoon-feeding mass media news networks.

    Smart move really, keep the people out that know you're full of BS, and let the sheep (err I mean general public) inside for the shearing.

  19. Re:So what? by runningduck · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At first I thought your post was tongue-n-cheek until I read some of your other posts.

    Thunderbird uses the mbox format to store e-mail, which is a lowest common denominator (ie: flat file).

    Here are a couple of super-duper-secret links, but shhh, don't share these with anybody else.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=convert+mbox
      - or -
    http://www.google.com/search?q=convert+thunderbird

    By the way, where do I sign up to Astroturf? I could really use the extra money.

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  20. Re:But the server runs RedHat by symbolset · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This -as far as the /. crowd is concerned- is a very serious issue for those who consider Obama/Biden as the candidates for change.

    Change? I don't think so. There will be no change. People who are old enough to vote don't really believe that stuff, do they?

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  21. Amish by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's like hiring an Amish guy to design the next generation fuel cell sports car racer.

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  22. Re:Doesn't matter to me by zurtle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One thing that made it very funny for me was not the /. adoration but Jon Stewart's treatment of it on The Daily Show. I remember not only the dissection of Ted's speech but the quite hilarious animations that elucidated the concepts Ted was describing.

    I'm unaware of TDS' presence on Youtube any more after effective copyright chasing, but a clip of this comedy genius may be stuck in a lesser-used tube somewhere.

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  23. Re:Doesn't matter to me by letxa2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Democrats (and the Republicans, for that matter) don't mind offending about 50% of the population anyway. Why would anyone think they're afraid of offending another 5% or so? :)

  24. Re:Doesn't matter to me by uhlume · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Car analogies are welcome ;)

    Well, it's not a big truck. We know that much.

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  25. DemConvention uses Redhat, SilverStripe, PHP,MySQL by webkiwi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In addition to Silverlight, DemConvention.com uses Redhat: searchdns.netcraft.com/?position=limited&host=www.demconvention.com

    And it runs on SilverStripe open source CMS/framework, which requires PHP, MySQL, Apache.... (Just do a view-source of the homepage, or check out silverstripe.com/powering-4-days-of-political-history-dnc-2008/)

    Source of demconvention.com has: <meta name="generator" http-equiv="generator" content="SilverStripe 2.0 - http://www.silverstripe.com/" />

  26. Re:Doesn't matter to me by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Which means the company they paid to design the site is full of no talent hacks and they screwed it up.

    Nice, can we find out what the company is so we can spread the word that that company is one to NOT use?

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  27. McCain's Stance on Domestic Tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    From the page linked above "John McCain will expand the number of H-1B visas to allow our companies to keep top-notch talent - often trained in our graduate schools - in the United States. The Department of Labor should be allowed to set visa levels appropriate for market conditions. Hiring skilled foreign workers to fill critical shortages benefits not only innovative companies, but also our economy. For every foreign worker hired, corporations generally hire five to ten additional American workers. "

  28. Re:Furthermore by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I agree, up to a point. A politician can earn my respect by fairly consistently acting in a decent manner, but precious few do. Obama never had my respect, I was merely willing to extend him the benefit of the doubt (ie, I didn't automatically distrust him like I do most politicians, although I didn't trust him either) because many of my peers who are more or less intelligent touted how great and different he was.

    Then he proved that he's no different. Just another corrupt politician who will screw us all over. Again. Color me unsurprised.

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