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Cell Phone For the Blind?

brigc writes "Here's one that's got me stumped. A friend of mine who is blind asked me for help tracking down a cell phone for him. He's interested in a flip phone with well-defined separations between the keys, and as much voice control as possible. Battery life is the only other thing he mentioned. Preferably something that would work on AT&T's network in the US. We spent part of the afternoon in a local AT&T store checking out all the flip phones they had and didn't find one he really loved. Anyone have any ideas?" There was a story some months back about a phone that would read to you by interpreting pictures from the built-in camera, but it doesn't have much information about usability. I'm sure it'd be handy to have some sort of text-to-speech option for common cell phone features like caller ID and text messaging, or even just reading menu names.

141 comments

  1. EyePhone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sorry...

    1. Re:EyePhone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Let the dog dial it........

    2. Re:EyePhone? by Helios1182 · · Score: 2, Funny

      On an Apple forum there was a guy who posted about how to best set up an iPhone for his blind wife.

  2. Check web for partially-sighted people's orgs by James+Youngman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why not just refer to information from some local organisation of blind people? There's this survey of accessible mobile phones in the UK, but surely there must be something similar for the USA.

    1. Re:Check web for partially-sighted people's orgs by kEnder242 · · Score: 1

      what? no pictures?

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  3. Why Not Jitterbug ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why not Jitterbug. It doesn't work with AT&T but it does have large well separated buttons and is relatively easy for people to use. I don't think your friend wants a "complex" phone -- more buttons and more potential for error.

    Here is the linky : http://www.jitterbug.com/phonesDial.aspx

    Good luck....

    1. Re:Why Not Jitterbug ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      And they have operator service which can make calls for you as part of it. So there is the voice-controlled part of it. And they will look things up for you and then make the call, too.

  4. Here's a possibility by Iphtashu+Fitz · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Here's a possibility by Iphtashu+Fitz · · Score: 5, Informative

      And here's an article from the American Foundation for the Blind. It's from 2004 but it mentions the above phone as well as two others: http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw050406

    2. Re:Here's a possibility by nategoose · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In addition to it's usability, the lack of a screen should also help out on power consumption.

    3. Re:Here's a possibility by KingBenny · · Score: 0

      Do you know of any alternative for this in Europe ? It looks like the ideal phone for blind people, but i don't know if it can be used on local networks here, if someone reads and knows, please reply, tyvm

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    4. Re:Here's a possibility by LucidBeast · · Score: 1

      Backlight consumes about 40%, so just turning that off will make a big difference

    5. Re:Here's a possibility by nospam007 · · Score: 5, Informative
    6. Re:Here's a possibility by TechwoIf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Does this phone reject SMS messages? I'me tired of getting charge $.50 per messages and like to block them sense they are nothing but spam.

    7. Re:Here's a possibility by rvw · · Score: 1

      Backlight consumes about 40%, so just turning that off will make a big difference

      Backlight can be turned off on most phones, as it is useless anyway for blind people.

    8. Re:Here's a possibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or if you're in blighty or don't mind paying in quids you can get one from the RNIB:

      http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/public_mobphonesfactsheet.hcsp

    9. Re:Here's a possibility by Iphtashu+Fitz · · Score: 1

      According to the screenlessphone website it's a fairly standard GSM phone. If you already have GSM service just pop your SIM into this phone and it should work. There's a lot more information in the FAQ on their website.

    10. Re:Here's a possibility by KGIII · · Score: 2, Informative

      Along those lines, I had listened to an NPR snip about this very thing quite a while back. There isn't much more information than this but, well:

      http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18504117

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    11. Re:Here's a possibility by urcreepyneighbor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Effective January 2007 the retail price of the Owasys 22C in the United States is $549.95.

      WHAT IN THE HELL?!

      No. This is wrong. Subsidize this mother fucker.

      SPECIAL PRICE OFFER! Receive your Owasys 22C at the special low price of just $249.95 (plus a $10 charge for your SIM card and a shipping and handling charge) when you order your ScreenlessPhone from Capital Accessibility with a TWO-YEAR T-Mobile service plan

      Still wrong. Fail. Bad. NO.

      These people are already blind. Do we really have to rape them?

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    12. Re:Here's a possibility by KingBenny · · Score: 0

      thanks, this might prove very useful for someone i know

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    13. Re:Here's a possibility by lysergic.acid · · Score: 1

      obviously more attention needs to be paid to this market segment. not only is this phone _way_ too expensive, it's also bulky and hideous (i know, i know. it's for the blind. but still...).

      button placement aside, most of its accessibility features could be easily duplicated on much cheaper conventional phones. it doesn't take any special hardware to implement text-to-voice accessibility features. any phone above $50 these days includes enough processing power to handle that sort of stuff.

      popular cellphone manufacturers like Nokia, Samsung, Sony-Ericsson, etc. need to include text-to-voice features in their phone interfaces, or at least allow customers to order standard models with these accessibility features added. the visually-impaired shouldn't have to fork out $500+ just to have a phone that they're capable of operating.

      the way it is now it seems like the visually-impaired are having to pay more money for less phone.

    14. Re:Here's a possibility by kesuki · · Score: 2, Informative

      sadly, $250 off the retail price with 2 year commitment is standard for all the wireless carriers. and i mean all of them. ironically, for 1 year commitment you get about $200 off, so most phones are priced just over $200 or more, so that the 'basic' phone is free, the slightly better model free with 2 years, and the premium phones cost $$.

      and a phone designed for the blind is a 'premium' although the phone probably runs linux, just like most of the other cell phones out there, blind users need something like orca, and making it screen less compensates for having to run text to speech software.

      so it's a premium phone at a premium price. it's too bad my phone is discontinued, because it has a nice set of A-Z keys around the 'number keys' the alphabet keys stick out, making it possible to 'feel' your way around the phone, ah well, my phone would require counting bumps to figure out which key is which. ah well, i guess the blind are getting ripped off, because there aren't as many of them as there are sighted people.

    15. Re:Here's a possibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, being blind means I am totally willing to be flexable. I dont get much lovin, and sometimes even the blind need a little touch.

    16. Re:Here's a possibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      products made specifically for the blind (and i imagine any disability, but i wouldn't know) are often very, very expensive. this is the result of 2 things:

      - a small potential market
      - subsidies

      Most people who get devices for the blind get them through government assistance programs, or perhaps their employer is required to provide means for them to get their job done. As a result, there's little to no competitive price market for these devices.

      I don't necessarily think this is totally bad, because it means that most blind people get the devices for next to nothing, which is what is most important in this scenario. but it would be nice if everyone else wasn't screwed out of tax dollars in the process.

    17. Re:Here's a possibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Effective January 2007 the retail price of the Owasys 22C in the United States is $549.95.

      WHAT IN THE HELL?!

      No. This is wrong. Subsidize this mother fucker.

      SPECIAL PRICE OFFER! Receive your Owasys 22C at the special low price of just $249.95 (plus a $10 charge for your SIM card and a shipping and handling charge) when you order your ScreenlessPhone from Capital Accessibility with a TWO-YEAR T-Mobile service plan

      Still wrong. Fail. Bad. NO.

      These people are already blind. Do we really have to rape them?

      This is fairly standard for adaptive equipment. Sure, they can make an argument about their customer base being smaller, so they have to charge more to recoup costs.

      But, I agree with you a 100% and I still get pissed every time we go to buy something for my wife.

    18. Re:Here's a possibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not a flip phone but a great choice for elderly and/or visually impaired people: http://www.wirelessimports.com/Store/Catalog/Detail.aspx?productId=818/. It has very large keys with clear separation between them and the ability to read everything to you (if I recall correctly that means menu options, contact names and also any SMS messages you receive).

      Beware... this is one of those strange and almost extinct mobile phones that are in fact just phones. No camera, MMS, mp3 player, radio, etc.

    19. Re:Here's a possibility by Henneshoe · · Score: 1

      Call the phone company. They will block them, but it involves shutting off your entire SMS service so your friends can't send them either.

    20. Re:Here's a possibility by Henneshoe · · Score: 1

      Actually what I meant to say was you would not be able to receive them from your friends either.

    21. Re:Here's a possibility by StRex · · Score: 1

      Screwed out of tax dollars, eh? Just curious, do you think there shouldn't be subsidies for any assistive devices for the disabled? I'd disagree with you, but I suppose I'd understand that.

      If, on the other hand, you think blind folk are walking around getting rich off cool toys, think again. The world of the GUI has left blind people very much behind in the technical revolution. When the government and nonprofit agencies give away (or even subsidize) a device, it's more likely to look like a bag phone than an iPhone. And I'm not talking about the fashion aspect, but the difference in functionality and portability that my analogy suggests.

      I don't have the time to give this rant^H^H^H^Hreply sufficient backup (I tried and deleted it), but I think you'll discover as I have, if you talk to a blind person about this, navigating the world on a daily basis is so inconvenient and exhausting that convenient, truly portable assistive technology can be just what makes a housebound, unemployed blind person able to instead get a professional job that contributes to the tax base.

    22. Re:Here's a possibility by corbettw · · Score: 1

      These people are already blind. Do we really have to rape them?

      People with disabilities encounter problems with everyday common objects and have special needs. News at 11.

      My guess is, there are already charities or government programs set up to help offset the costs of things like this. You'd have to be blind to miss them.

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  5. Motorola F3 by NemosomeN · · Score: 4, Informative

    Has voice commands (In that it will read the command name to you as you go over it), as well as well-defined separations between the keys. It, has good battery life, too. It's a candybar phone, however, and is very limited. I picked one up (with prepaid service) for about $12, but their full retail US is still only around $50. CDMA and 3G are both available.

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    1. Re:Motorola F3 by jeti · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think the Motofone is meant to work for illiterate people, but not for blind people. It can read out the menu options, but I think it can not read out phone book entries. However, the phone should work well for sight-impaired people as all text is large and easy to read.

    2. Re:Motorola F3 by NemosomeN · · Score: 1

      Yes, that is the intention. I think you're right about the phone book entries, I had forgotten about that, but I don't have it with me to confirm. In that case, one would have to rely on speed dial or memory, either of which would severely limit your phone book.

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    3. Re:Motorola F3 by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      Seconded. The F3 is an excellent choice. I wish someone made a phone with a dot-matrix eInk display, because the F3 uses a segmented display, which looks great but hinders its functionality considerably.

      Otherwise, like the parent said, it's a winner - very small, sturdy, big buttons, voice guidance (it talks you through using the phone), great reception and the battery life is good too. It lacks internal memory though (contacts and SMS are stored on SIM chip) and the only extra it has is a programable alarm, but otherwise it will do just fine.

  6. did you search? by socsoc · · Score: 2, Informative

    Google provides a lot of info, I found some interesting information and most of it appears recent. The 22C is a screenless-specific GSM phone that appears to be a good match.

  7. Check out http://www.codefactory.es/en/ by skallen · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check out http://www.codefactory.es/en/

    I have a blind daughter and she uses an Nokia N95 and it works verey good, i also know that there is some OCR software for Nokia N82 coming up soon which can read a photo, that could be an even better choice.

    1. Re:Check out http://www.codefactory.es/en/ by osssmkatz · · Score: 1

      Nokia's are a good bet. I have a blind friend that uses a Nokia candybar phone, because the function hasn't changed in all its models, so you can learn it and stick with it. (Buttons are always in the same place.) Good luck. --Sam

    2. Re:Check out http://www.codefactory.es/en/ by fastfinge · · Score: 1

      I have a nokia N82, with the OCR software, and GPS too. See:
      http://www.talknav.com/
      for the GPS and talking software. The OCR software is called the KNFB, but I can't think of the website off the top of my head. Try google. With a bluetooth keyboard and a good 3G plan, I find it replaces my laptop for most mobile computing needs.

    3. Re:Check out http://www.codefactory.es/en/ by TaraK · · Score: 1

      There's also an amazing piece of software that is helping people who are blind, called the vOICe MIDlet. It translates live views from your camera phone (so it can be used on a Nokia N95) into sounds that you hear via the phoneâ(TM)s speaker or headset. So, basically, re-training neural nets, it can enable people to 'see' using sound. It's pretty fascinating stuff. You can read more about it here: http://www.seeingwithsound.com/midlet.htm.

    4. Re:Check out http://www.codefactory.es/en/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out http://www.codefactory.es/en/

      I have a blind daughter and she uses an Nokia N95 and it works verey good, i also know that there is some OCR software for Nokia N82 coming up soon which can read a photo, that could be an even better choice.

      Yes, the N82 does work well and has decent buttons. Not entirely separated, but easy enough.

      The OCR software takes some getting used to, but my wife has had a heap of fun running round the house reading stuff with it.

    5. Re:Check out http://www.codefactory.es/en/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This software works well. My fiance uses it on a Pantech PN-820 quite happily.

  8. flip phone with large keys by ptbarnett · · Score: 2, Informative

    He might find this meets some of his needs:

    Jitterbug

    However, it looks like you have to also buy service through them.

  9. candy bar, not flip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Get a candy bar phone instead of a flip phone.

    2. glue Braille onto keyboard

    3. ??????

    4. Profit!!!!!

  10. Personal experience by blind+biker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I volunteer in an NGO that helps blind people in various ways, and is also my passion, privately.

    I am VERY happy this question appeared here on /. for once, because last time I mentioned MP3 players that would be just as functional for blind as for seeing people, I was derided. But the truth is, making MP3 players and mobile phones with a user interface that is usable for blind people does NOT detract anything from the usability for seeing people. In fact, I'd argue that it makes them more usable for the seeing people as well - allowing for a whole new area of use cases.

    The trend is, however, unfavourable for the blind: touch screens and the related user interfaces make it impossible for blind people to operate such gadgets, unless they have a voice feedback.

    And now, to the point of the question, and related to voice feedback: there are plenty of Nokia phones with software designed to make it possible to be operated by a blind person. Such software would announce who is calling or whose call you just missed, who is the sender of an SMS and read the SMS to you, or give feedback on your commands. Nokia phones in general (especially the slightly older ones, say, 2006, 2007 generation) have a user interface that is more suitable for blind people than most other. I am just now trying to teach my visually impaired mother how to use a certain Panasonic mobile phone (only one extra phone in the house at the moment), and I notice how the UI emphasizes using the same button for several functions. Like, locking the phone requires two pushes on the same button. Unlocking it requires three pushes on that same button, and the only feedback you have is visual. WTF? Total rubbish.

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    1. Re:Personal experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    2. Re:Personal experience by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      I volunteer in an NGO that helps blind people in various ways, and is also my passion, privately.

      I am VERY happy this question appeared here on /. for once, because last time I mentioned MP3 players that would be just as functional for blind as for seeing people, I was derided. But the truth is, making MP3 players and mobile phones with a user interface that is usable for blind people does NOT detract anything from the usability for seeing people. In fact, I'd argue that it makes them more usable for the seeing people as well - allowing for a whole new area of use cases.

      And now, to the point of the question, and related to voice feedback: there are plenty of Nokia phones with software designed to make it possible to be operated by a blind person. Such software would announce who is calling or whose call you just missed, who is the sender of an SMS and read the SMS to you, or give feedback on your commands. Nokia phones in general (especially the slightly older ones, say, 2006, 2007 generation) have a user interface that is more suitable for blind people than most other. I am just now trying to teach my visually impaired mother how to use a certain Panasonic mobile phone (only one extra phone in the house at the moment), and I notice how the UI emphasizes using the same button for several functions. Like, locking the phone requires two pushes on the same button. Unlocking it requires three pushes on that same button, and the only feedback you have is visual. WTF? Total rubbish.

      You've made a good point - clean efficient interface design helps everyone. Unfortunately, it's not the norm amongst designers.

      It's frustrating for a person to push 3 buttons whether or not they have 100% vision. Personally, I think UI designers should be forced to use their device for month while wearing gloves, eyeglasses with petroleum jelly smeared on them, and cotton balls in their ears.

      I think you'll slowly see more devices designed with physical impairments in mind as the boomer generation ages while remaining an viable commercial market.

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    3. Re:Personal experience by sam0737 · · Score: 1

      Being a geek with 20/20 eyesight, I also hate the fact that I couldn't dial without looking at my Dopod phone. (I would pass about the voice feedback, I don't like the idea of announcing who I am dialing to to the people around me, and my low usage of phone don't warrant me to buy a bluetooth handfree)

      Sometimes when I am going from indoor to outdoor and when it's sunny day, it's also a pity to have to turn the screen backlight to full before I could dial.

      I hope someday programmable tactile feedback would come. Imagine a transparent layer of whatever laying on top of the touch surface, and dots can raise and flatten pro grammatically. We don't need 320*240 resolutions of raising dot, just a few handy dots at strategy place would boost the user experience to sky.

    4. Re:Personal experience by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Both apple and nokia have been doing research into touchscreens with tactile feedback.

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    5. Re:Personal experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, too, am glad that someone on Slashdot is suggesting that electronic devices be made accessible. I'm a bit deaf, and there are a lot of devices which, well, suck. Audio feedback for keys, how about just tactile feedback. Stupid musical ring tones, but how about one that's just loud, and has a broad range of frequencies, so I have a chance? At least this gives tactile feedback and a long battery life.

      http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=287

      It's stupid, but the old interface works just fine.

      John

  11. What about the Jitterbug by dr_canak · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know nothing about this phone,

    http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phones/samsung-jitterbug-dial-sph/4505-6454_7-32115117.html

    but see it recommended often for older folks and those with poor eyesight. A real barebones phone, with limited features, big keys, and decent battery life.

    hth,
    jeff

  12. HTC with Windows Mobile by Auntie+Virus · · Score: 5, Informative

    My blind friend uses an HTC Mogul, with a mobile version of JAWS. JAWS is probably the speech software for most blind computer users.

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    1. Re:HTC with Windows Mobile by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1

      I can't believe you can mention Jaws on Slashdot without writing about the problem for Slashdot users.

      Jaws is software that reads, aloud, all the text on the screen (in a sensible way) for users with visual impairments. It has done the same thing for about 10 years and is on version 10... visually impaired users need to buy new versions of JAWS because it supports new OSs or applications.

      It costs >$750, for a visual impaired computer user JAWS is a necessity.

      There are many open source efforts to replace JAWS and I wish everyone luck with it. It's costing the visually impaired community several million a year for upgrades.

  13. Re:Get a Mac! by ccguy · · Score: 1

    If the blind guy had mod points he'd be looking for the braille key for -1 pathetic right now...

  14. pointless by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why does he want a cellphone if he's blind? I mean, he won't be able to use the camera. He can't send text messages. Can't use it for games or videos. I suppose he could listen to mp3s. What? He wants to make phone calls. Good luck finding a cell phone that's good at that....

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    1. Re:pointless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Wow, you completely missed that one, huh? Let me explain for the mentally retarded: he was making an insightful commentary on the fact that cell phones have improved in almost every area of functionality except the one that makes the most sense - making calls. Sad isn't it?

    2. Re:pointless by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      Actually I meant it as more of a sarcastic attempt at humor, with a touch of truth behind it. But your interpretation is okay by me.

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    3. Re:pointless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      A co-worker of mine has a deaf wife and his sister is blind. Both happened late in life, over the age of 40 to both women, and finding a usable mobile phone for both of them is something he's spent a lot of time investigating.

      Their lives have gone on - they're still trying to raise their kids, work and live in the world with everyone else. Without mobiles, both would be cut off from the world, as this is how most people communicate today.

      The deaf woman has a mobile phone that works for her - a smart phone - but the blind woman has yet to find one that is completely satisfactory for her. One of her problems is that as you state, she just wants a phone to make calls, and the more sophisticated phones are a problem. Camera phones mean there are more buttons that can be accidentally pressed and not all mobile phones are hacker friendly - sometimes you can't change the function of buttons on the phone.

      But please don't count these people out, just because they are blind, deaf or whatever.

    4. Re:pointless by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe Slashdot needs a screen reader that explains jokes for the humor-impaired. ;-)

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    5. Re:pointless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe slashdot needs better jokes.

  15. Voice Dialing by JPGumby · · Score: 2, Informative

    Some phones have voice recognition. I have an older LG VX5200 on Verison that has this feature, I press a button easily found on the side, and it asks for a command. The phone itself is otherwise not fat-thumb friendly. Lookup "Voice Dialing (Speaker-independent (automatic))" http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/

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  16. iPhone ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, I am insensitive clod !

  17. Have the blind person try the phone himself by mrsam · · Score: 2, Informative

    A couple of weeks ago I helped a blind guy, with a service dog, board a commuter train. I watched as, later, he whipped out a phone and called his party to let them know that he's on the way.

    I don't remember what model it was, but it looked like a fairly recent phone, with all the usual bells and whistles on it. So, even though I don't know the model, there are definitely some out there which blind people can easily use.

    Blind people often have a heightened sense of touch. I'd say you're probably looking for a phone that's on the larger side, not a tiny crumb with teeny keys; but rather something substantial, with individual dial keys that are slightly raised, and can be easily felt, by touch.

    The blind person might need some initial help to set up speed dial keys, but once that's done 99% of the time he'll need to press only a couple of keys to do the desired function.

    If he didn't like any phones in one AT&T store, he should go to another. Different stores have different phones. Or, if living in a large city, try independent stores that sell unlocked GSM phones (that can be used with AT&T or T-Mobile, here in the US). That's going to be a slightly larger hit in the pocket, but you'll have a larger selection of phones to try out.

    1. Re:Have the blind person try the phone himself by StRex · · Score: 1

      Can't speak fully to the options, but the button size might not be the biggest deal for blind folks, based on my limited sample set. I work with a blind IT guy (fully without sight, not merely "low vision", and blind for >25 years), who went with a Blackjack II because it's one of the cheapest, easiest ways to get into a smartphone with full screen reader available (for $$$), and with integral GPS (which has some sort of megabuck$$ talking GPS software release due out soon).

      Perhaps the fact he's very comfortable with reading Braille makes him okay with it, because I find the buttons obnoxiously small. He stopped by my desk when he upgraded from the Blackjack to Blackjack II (had me swap his SIM card), and I walked him around the perimeter of the keyboard, where the non-QWERTY keys live to familiarize him with the differences, and he went on his way.

      Pretty funny too, as his screen still has the "Remove this sticker" sticker on it - he's left it in place to help protect it, and he has no use for it. I only wish I could help him figure out how to turn the screen off entirely since he'd save a ton of battery that way...

  18. Great! I'll have an option when I go blind! by BitterOldGUy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I jerk off a lot to porn.

  19. Windows Mobile and Voice Commander by FonzCam · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hands down the best voice commands I've ever used in a phone is Voice Commander for Windows Mobile 5. (I believe it's now included with WM6 as standard.) Not only does it do voice dialling of your contacts and numbers by simply saying "Dial 555 1234" but it also gives you control over the launching apps, mp3 playback, reading SMS messages, signal status and time and appointments.
    For a full list take a look at the Microsoft website.
    It also doesn't need any training or any setup you just press and speak and it works surprisingly well.

    As for hardware that'll depend on your budget and availability but there are lots of options for Windows Mobile powered phones including candy bars and and flip phones.

    1. Re:Windows Mobile and Voice Commander by WimBo · · Score: 1

      I was thinking something along the same lines, as I've been using a windows mobile phone for over a year now, and do most of my dialing with voice commands. The fact that it announces incoming calls as well is really nice.

      Unfortunately, I think all of the setup is visual menu based, and I know that the phone I'm using has way too many buttons.

    2. Re:Windows Mobile and Voice Commander by StRex · · Score: 1

      Interestingly though, blind folks have far more trouble in interpreting the output of their phones. They can work with pressing a sequence of buttons to launch an app or place a call, but end up dead in the water when it comes to figuring out a message that appears on-screen.

  20. for Symbian Series 60 and Series 80: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://www.nuance.com/talks/premium.asp

  21. Re:Get a Mac! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I love the whooshing sound the joke makes when it flies over people's heads.

  22. Cold but simple answer by bigtallmofo · · Score: 1

    I always wonder why nobody has done a phone with a Braile output

    Because there aren't enough blind people to make it profitable. There are 1.3 million legally blind people in the United States. That's less than one half of one percent of the current population.

    Complex Problem + Increased R&D spending + Small Market = Few Products

    Glad to see there are some players in this niche though.

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    1. Re:Cold but simple answer by EvilIdler · · Score: 1

      There are countries with as few people, but they still sell mobile phones there. Add up all the blind people everywhere, go global and it's possible to make a profit.

  23. Mod parent down! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you fucking stupid?
    What a fucking imbecile you are.
    Look asshole...

    Who's the troll here?

  24. RAZR2 by whterbt · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have the RAZR2 (V8). You can operate the phone entirely through voice commands, including dialing people in the phonebook and just dialing phone numbers. You can set "Talking Phone" mode so that it reads each menu item as you go over it. The keys are not physically separated but there are ridges between the rows of keys, and the imprinting is raised so you can tell by feel when you're on a key. The phone has audible caller-ID, but for some stupid reason T-Mobile disables that on their phones. If you look into the RAZR2, be sure that features is enabled or get an unlocked phone.

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    1. Re:RAZR2 by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      I'll second that, the keys aren't "well separated", but I don't think any are on mobile nowadays. They are raised lettering and raised bars between the number strips.

      It also lets you manipulate texts using keys on the side, and it can be set to read them out to you, which I imagine would allow a blind person to use texting as well as talk. Battery life is ok, and I understand it will work on AT&T as its a GSM standard phone (obviously you may need an unlocked one)

    2. Re:RAZR2 by KylePflug · · Score: 1

      I also used the phone for a long time, and it would work for some basic features but I have some concerns. It's linux based, but the OS has some quirks and often has a lot of exploration through menus to get to things like bluetooth, ringtones, etc. The talking phone mode is very cool, but so much of the texting features rely on the exterior touch screen, which wouldn't be very useful to a blind person. Plus with the RAZR2 you're paying a couple hundred dollar premium for two big high-rez screens that the blind obviously won't use.

    3. Re:RAZR2 by KylePflug · · Score: 1

      Although it's worth noting that there are some very well thought out features such as vibration to confirm button presses and screen interactions, different sounds when you loop menus, etc. With some set-up help, this might not be a bad way to go.

    4. Re:RAZR2 by CoffeeBeanBen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have the RAZR2 (V8). You can operate the phone entirely through voice commands, including dialing people in the phonebook and just dialing phone numbers.

      For a blind user, inputting data is not the hard part. The difficulty is getting feedback from the device. I'm curious if this "Talking Phone" mode had pre-recorded voice sounds for each menu item or if it's capable of, say, pronouncing the names in your contact list like "true" text-to-speech.

      Also, what if the phone mis-recognized your voice and inputted the wrong command? How would the user know? I wonder how many times sighted users of this feature have seen the screen bounce to the wrong menu item and thought "That's not what I said, you stupid phone!"

      Someone has already mentioned text-to-speech cell phone software put out by Nuance called Talks (http://www.nuance.com/talks/). I used to work at the Lighthouse for the Blind in New Orleans as their technology specialist. A number of my blind coworkers and clients used this software on a variety of phones and they've done nothing but sing its praises. IMHO, the best thing that could be done is to port this software to a wider variety of handsets.

      Sighted users don't need to re-learn how to read in order to switch to a different phone model. Neither should blind users.

    5. Re:RAZR2 by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

      My old phone with a talking phone feature would confirm everything you said.

      "Call Mom"
      "Call Jill?"
      "Call Mom"
      "Call Home?"
      "Call Mom"
      "Call Tom?"
      "Call Mom"
      "Call Jonathan?"
      "Call Mom"
      "Call Dad?"

      That could go on for hours. But it did at least always repeated what it thought I said before doing it.

  25. Use Talks screen reader on a Nokia S60 phone by limitedmage · · Score: 5, Informative

    Get a phone from this list: http://www.nuance.com/talks/phones.asp Then buy this software: http://www.nuance.com/talks/ It's a screen reader for Nokia S60 phones. It is perfect for blind and visually impaired persons. My dad is blind and he's used it for quite a few years now. The supported phones are top of the line. My dad has a Nokia N95, I think, and he really likes that the Talks screen reader is compatible with most of the phone, including email, web browsing, media player, calendar, address book, and the amazing voice commands, which provide a great shortcut for blind users. I highly recommend it. And Nokia phones are the best, IMO.

    1. Re:Use Talks screen reader on a Nokia S60 phone by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      My E65 from Nokia had that thing embedded in device ROM. In fact, you can download additional languages via "Download!" in phone root menu. It has a new model (E66) which I am almost sure have same or better feature. The "E" series are business devices and E6x series are the tiniest screen having phones available. It doesn't make sense to pay for some great LCD screens for blind people.

      The stuff I talk about could be the "talks" licensed to Nokia BTW.

      S60 is a clear winner because of the gigantic 3rd party software market along with excellent J2ME support. It is not just Nokia, any S60 (Symbian) phone is a good choice for scenarios like that.

      Nokia is also known for having "TTY" profile in every phone they manufacture. (for the deaf I guess)

      Their site dedicated to accessibility is: http://www.nokiaaccessibility.com/

  26. Suggestion by mariushm · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what network AT&T is, CDMA or GSM, but if I were to select something for a blind person, I would get a simple cellphone with very few keys, for example something like this one:

    http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_ku990_viewty-2070.php

    By the way, the site above has pictures for quite a lot of phones so you should be able to find several easy to use ones.

    1. Re:Suggestion by mariushm · · Score: 1

      Sorry, not that one, I thought those were real keys. But others have well defined keys, like this one, nice big keys and screen that doesn't need much power:

      http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_motofone_f3-1794.php

  27. Motorola Razor by RingDev · · Score: 1

    I have a motorola razor, and although I'm not a huge fan of the address book functionality, the keys are an etced tin plate with a ruber ridge seperated them and the '5' key has a raise bump. The volume control is a large easy to find button on the side of the phone that can be pushed up or down to adjust the phone's volume. It can also take voice commands (voice button is also an easy to find button on the opposite side as the volume button). Battery life seems pretty solid on it. I toss it on the charger every couple of days and it holds up for hour long calls with out an issue.

    Anyway, as a non-blind person, it's not my favorite phone. but if you don't have to look at the address book, it might be just fine :)

    -Rick

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  28. Cell phone for the blind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    The last thing a blind person needs is a cell phone to distract them while they are driving...

  29. Pantech Breeze by Liet+Hacksor · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just got my dad a Pantech Breeze from AT&T. It's quad-band GSM, nop gadgety features (like media/mp3/etc), does voice tags, has large buttons, has 3 dedicated speed-dial buttons (actual buttons, not softkeys), has good battery life, and does bluetooth.

    It's designed for old people, not blind people, but it has everything you described.

  30. I'm tagging this seeingeyemonkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you really think the /. crowd is going to come up with anything better?

  31. Blu-Tack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you can't find a suitable phone, try getting the next-nearest phone and putting a dob of blu-tack on selected keys (5, soft-key, hash, up to you). If you heat blu-tack up a bit, it becomes very malleable (like gum - you can pull a strand of it apart for meters before it breaks). Just heat up about a size similar to match-head, heat it for about a second with a flame, then stick it on to the selected key (careful, it'll get everywhere). Then when it cools, squish it flat, and it'll provide a great tactile feedback pad (if you do it right, it won't come unstuck in your pocket or deform too much on the key).

  32. K-NFB reader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You may be thinking of the K-NFB reader. This is a device developed by Ray Kurzweil and the National Federation of the Blind.

    http://www.knfbreader.com/

    I have seen this work in a real world setting (reading a restaurant menu perfectly) and it was amazing.

    Alas, like all accessible devices it is quite pricey 8-(

  33. Re:blind people need cancer too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    YES we need blind people to also have cancer in the head,..

  34. perfect sample of ideal open project by uniquegeek · · Score: 1

    This would be an ideal problem to be solved by open source (other than physical issues like being able to easily mash the keys).

    What we have now is lots of phones with little to no support that don't share their efforts.

    Open source and open phones would allow users to benefit from a group effort/concern that is small locally but large online.

    1. Re:perfect sample of ideal open project by plover · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, the only serious open-source phone project out there right now is the OpenMoko. I say unfortunately because it's a touch screen.

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  35. Any Symbian Series 60 phone... by accessbob · · Score: 1

    Any Symbian series 60 phone can, in principle, be adapted for blind/low vision users using an application called Talks. The website is http://www.nuance.com/talks/ There is a free trial download you can try.

    1. Re:Any Symbian Series 60 phone... by Better.Safe.Than.Sor · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Works well.

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  36. Need better screenless operation by Animats · · Score: 1

    The Samsung Jitterbug and the Owasys 22C (screenless) are useful for this.

    Current phones tend to be terrible at screenless operation. For use while driving, it should be possible to do everything important with voice, through a wireless headset. But that's unnecessarily hard with many phones. Reviews don't address this issue well. Things like the speed of voice recognition are important. Samsung phones seem to have voice recognition that takes 5-8 seconds to load, then about as long to recognize a name on the speed dial list. Motorola was doing better than that five years ago, and Wildfire (a centralized service) did even better eight years ago.

  37. Not the iphone by erpbridge · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Sorry, but this is one situation where the iPhone CAN'T help... not only is keyboard all software based (no hard keys), but there is no voice dialing (yet).

  38. Oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple hates blind people.

  39. What you need to do is... by V!NCENT · · Score: 1

    Buy a simlock-free phone. Huh, wat? Yes, you've read that correctly... it's cheaper. Do it online where the phone you desire is the cheapest. Then also order a 'subscription' (damn English is not my native language) that is not tied to the phone by default. Calculate how long and therefore how much money you have to cough up during lengths of the contracts. Now pick the AT&T one that is equal or less than the amount of money that you're phone costs without a subscription. Do $Price_of_phone - $Total_amount_of_money_that_your_contract_will_cost_over_time.

    Why?:
    1) You can pick any phone that you like, even if it's outside of AT&T's offering
    2) If you pick a phone from a webshop it is cheaper than what everyone offers, inclusing AT&T
    3) 'Free' phones are calculated like this:
    $Overrated_pricetags_of_phones_that_are_even_simlocked_and_bricked - $Total_price_of_subscription_that_is_more_expensive_to_make_the_phone_'free'_instead_of_letting_you_pay-less_for_the_total_price_of_ownership/use_and_an_additional_30_dollars_or_so
    4) ^You buy a phone and you get a subscription for free and the total cost of ownership is way less than avarage
    5) If this is not enough reasons for you than you should also know that a 'free' phone that cost $20/month gets you less ''free' call minutes' than a standard, $20-without-a-phone-subscription.

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  40. AT&T's own page on the topic by lasarinas_raven · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.wireless.att.com/about/disability-resources/mobile-speak-magnifier.jsp "AT&T now offers the latest in screen reader and screen magnifier software from Code Factory. This software works to enhance the functionality of some of our most popular wireless devices for those who have low vision or are blind. The screen reader and screen magnifier software is available for both Symbian and Windows Mobile Smartphone devices."

  41. Mobiles for the Blind by Aerdan · · Score: 0

    Just buy some Braille dots or something. After that, any mobile with a broad set of voice commands [such as LG's VX5400, which unfortunately is Verizon and not AT&T] should do, especially if you get a bluetooth headset for it as well.

  42. Hiptop, BlackJack by SoopahMan · · Score: 0

    While I was using it a few years ago, I recall that the Hiptop (which T-Mobile rebrands as the Sidekick) was a cool way for younger blind users to get into using mobile phones. The interface is highly responsive and easy for a blind user to use. The keyboard was innovative when it was released and blind users loved it.

    However that's exclusive to T-Mobile, and in most areas, T-Mobile coverage is abysmal (if this user is in Boston however, I can say it's excellent in that specific area).

    An AT&T phone that might do well is the BlackJack II. It's a Windows Mobile phone with no touchscreen (good for blind users), and a full keyboard. Windows Mobile 6 comes with a long list of voice options - you can do the obvious like call people by saying a name, but you can also load up apps or even run custom commands by speaking into it. The list of apps available for it is quite long (for example, Google Maps which you could load, do a local search in, then press a button to call the first result).

    My two reservations about this phone for the blind:

    1) If you are unfortunate enough to get one with even one half-dead key (which is common), typing on it is going to frustrate a blind user endlessly since the only way of knowing the key signal didn't make it is going to be visual. A reliable keyboard is essential and this may end up taking a few return cycles to get.

    2) It doesn't have a screenreader, although I'm not aware of any cellphone with that technology.

  43. Visioncue by astro · · Score: 1

    www.visioncue.com

    I know the owners of this business personally, and they're good people focused specifically on mobile devices for the blind / vision-impaired.

  44. What's next? by tulcod · · Score: 0

    What's next? A phone for the deaf?

  45. This phone would be perfect! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.dott-com.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/doro-handleeasy.jpg

    DORO makes a phone for the elderly that is simplified and large, and even though that wouldnt help your friend see them any better, it makes for good spacing, simple layout, and not very much wasted space/energy on the screen. Its the "Handle Easy 328." Im not sure what network (GSM or CDMA) it uses, but its worth looking into. Remembered seeing it a while back and thought I would throw that at ya.

  46. I work in this area by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are too many touch screen phones on the market these days.

    If you're blind and looking for a good phone look at the Nokia 6810... it has a good screen reader and an open source GPS system for navigation called Loadstone (which I did some work on).

    For a blind user, bluetooth is a must as it lets you keep a headset with a reader for interfacing. I walked around for a while with the phone talking to me and it freaked people out.

    Good luck on the search and message me if you want some more info...

    1. Re:I work in this area by Tracking+Devices · · Score: 1

      I know there are several phones that can do voice calling. Having not used one myself, I wouldn't want to recommend one. I have also seen voice command computers that will type spoken words.

  47. Motofone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not sure if it'll work on the AT&T network, I'm guessing so, but the Motorola motofone F3 is ultra cheep unlocked and has a lot of voice prompt menus. It's designed for the illiterate, but would work as well for the blind I think. Worth a shot at $40 USD or so. I think you can get them at Amazon and JR now.

  48. Motofone by smtrembl · · Score: 1

    You want to check the Motofone F3 by Motorola. Then why not apply Braille to the keyboard? It's a simple mod. Any commercial options?

  49. It's Not Jaws by fastfinge · · Score: 1

    If he's using a Windows Mobile device, he's not using jaws. While Freedom Scientific does make a version of Jaws that works on Windows Mobile, they only offer it for use on hardware they've produced, no third party products. He's probably got either Mobile Speaks or Pocket Hal.

    1. Re:It's Not Jaws by Auntie+Virus · · Score: 1

      He's probably got either Mobile Speaks [codefactory.es]

      D'oh! Yes, you're correct. I thought he had JAWS, but that was on an older device, and his PCs.

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  50. Guns, Lots of Guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are surprising many options out there for the blind. They range from very basic functionality i.e. the LG 5100 (which is what I have right now) to a Sybian or Windows mobile based phones. I got the LG free with a 2 year service plan. Where as a Symbian phone with the proper software can cost at least a couple hundred bucks for the phone and the software.

    Try looking through the AFB Product Database or Access World 208 (though not all the information in there is entirely accurate, i.e. AW08 claims Wayfinder Access only runs on Windows Mobile phone when it actually only runs on Sybian phones.)

    Also, the "picture reading software" mentioned earlier is called KNFB Mobile Reader (it costs $1600USD.) And for all the naysayers, *pointless*, This software would allow a blind person to read a menu at a restaurant, read labels at a super market, etc.

    If you choose to go the Smart phone route be prepared to spend a lot of money. I'm looking at an N82 as my next phone, Phone is ~$550USD on ebay, ~$300USD for the text to speech software, $549 For Way Finder access, get the idea.

    There is a Win Mobile version of JAWS the most common Windows PC screen reader. FYI, Just because it is the most popular does not mean it's the best. There is also TALKS which you can get free from AT&T AW08, has more info on that. There are also rumors that AT&T will soon be offering Mobile Speak (Win mobile & Symbian) by Code Factory, as well. As I understand all of these software packages will allow the user to interact will all of the features of the phone including sending and receiving text messages. Also, for those unfamiliar there is this term Legally Blind, and for these individuals there is also software to do screen magnification from Code Factory.

    Finally what sound proof room did you use those voice commands in?

    They make the Jitterbug in a couple different versions one for seniors, and another for the blind. though I think they are pretty interchangeable.

    So the real question is what features does your friend "want" and how much are they willing to spend. Also, you may look into what government assistance they can receive in getting a new phone.

  51. LG VX8300 by Athaulf · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure about AT&T, but I've got a few blind friends that use the LG VX8300 on Verizon. It's got dedicated music controls on the front of the phone and 512 MB cards for it are fairly cheap.

  52. So why don't you? by bigtallmofo · · Score: 1

    There are countries with as few people, but they still sell mobile phones there

    Do you think government subsidies have anything to do with that?

    Add up all the blind people everywhere, go global and it's possible to make a profit.

    Obviously, there are easier ways to make a profit or you or someone else would be doing it now.

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  53. Toshiba VM-4050 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had a Sprint Toshiba VM-4050 (CDMA) and it had mode that would read everything off the screen. I am not blind so I didn't use that mode but I was impressed that it came with this. It's manufactured by Audiovox as the Audiovox 9950.

    Good luck.

  54. bazile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    check this startup out out http://www.bazile.fr, only available in France but intresting

  55. Working with the people by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Interesting
    One of the biggest problems with throwing out a question like this on slashdot is that most slashdotters are not blind and are trying to throw tech solutions to problems that either don't exist or are are trivial (from a blind person's perspective). [OT, but we get the same sort of problems when slashdotters try to solve third world problems etc too].

    I do not at all make claims to understand a blind person's needs, but I have spent some time trying to understand a blind person's requirements as part of working for a company that makes products for blind people - a highly successful company that must be doing a few things right.

    One big thing I noticed is that most blind people are highly motivated to adapt to existing technology and generally don't need a big helping hand (unless they became blind very late in life). One blind guy I spoke to can Braille faster than I can type (ok not such a big challenge as I'm not a fast typer). This guy would learn how to use a candy-bar phone pretty quickly, but would likely prefer some special bumps/touch on some of the more important keys [5 to locate center of number pad, dial/hangip keys etc].

    Most voice feedback is pretty crappy for blind people. Most blind people don't care for high quality spoken sound. What they want is fast. Most blind people will crank up the speed on their text to speech devices to full speed and at those speeds Joe Average non-blind person will not be able to understand.

    What would be very interesting would be a blind person's special interest group adopting an open (eg OpenMoko) or semi-open (eg. Android) phone and seeing what sorts of UI design etc come out of that.

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  56. Virgin Mobile Arc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Virgin mobile's ARC phone has basically 1 touch voice control. You push a button on the side of the phone and it can do anything from tell what the battery level, the signal strength, to when the last missed call was. That said someone sighted would need to program in his contacts. Once programmed you would just simply need to say like "call Fred mobile" or "Call Suzi home". There is really no training needed for the phone and a Korean coworker with a heavy accent was able to get the phone to work with ease. You wouldn't be able to text, because that requires sight. You can speak "Call 888-111-5555" in a normal tone of voice and it recognizes without any training. The battery life is excellent. They say about 14 days in standby and I can say that is about right.

    Virgin Mobile runs over the sprint PCS network but is an independent pre-paid phone service. There are unlimited plans starting at $79.99. I can't recommend the service enough I have had them since like 2003-2004.

    However, you cannot use the phone on any other service than virgin mobile. So he'd have to lose AT&T.

  57. Kurzweil by davidwt · · Score: 2, Informative

    Very good mobile products for the blind, though not cheap: http://www.knfbreader.com/

  58. I notice a discrimination here.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An "ask slashdot" about cellphone for the mute/deaf won't possibly be posted here.

  59. Summary of phone screenreaders by Dominic_Mazzoni · · Score: 1

    When blind people use a computer they use software called a "screen reader". It reads all of the text on the screen to them using speech synthesis (text-to-speech) or alternatively using a braille display. It requires using some extra keyboard shortcuts to navigate around and tell it what to read, along with the normal keyboard shortcuts all of us can use.

    There's only one mobile phone operating system that supports fully-functional screenreaders: Symbian. Almost all Symbian-based Nokia phones support screenreaders, and just a couple of other brands that run Symbian.

    There are two major phone screenreaders: "Talks" and "Mobile Speak". (Both companies also make mobile phone magnifiers for people who have low vision.) Both Talks and Mobile Speak have approximately the same functionality, they're both way too expensive (around $400), and you can purchase both of them separately from the phone and install it yourself.

    In theory, you can use the phone book, send and receive text messages and email, use the media player, use the web browser, and hear the caller ID name spoken when someone calls. In practice there are often bugs on particular phone models - I've heard of a lot of problems with the web browser, caller ID, and the media player - but it is possible to get them to work. The main complaint with the web browser is that it's functional but almost completely impractical to use - even more so than it is for a sighted person on a mobile phone. On the other hand, SMS and email seem to work great - my blind friends can text as fast as anyone I know.

  60. ^Seconded. by ShadowSystems · · Score: 3, Informative

    My Grandmother is legally blind.
    She LOVES her Jitterbug flip phone because she can open it, hit one button (which is easy to find by feel) & tell the Jitterbug Operator which of her contacts she wants to call.
    The phone can be programmed with contacts in a "Speed Dial" arrangement, so she can do it herself, but if she can't remember which Speed Dial Number someone is, it's literally one button to get that info read to her by someone who seems to enjoy being a help.
    As she put it, it is THE best birthday present she's ever gotten.
    It allows her to keep in touch with her family & friends, even as her glaucoma gets worse, and all for a monthly charge that she can afford while living on her Retirement Funds.

    If you have a blind family member, friend, relative, or coworker who wants a cell phone that works well, suggest a Jitterbug phone.
    I don't work for them, I have no association with the company, other than as the Grandson of a very happy Grandmother who enjoys her new phone.
    =)

    1. Re:^Seconded. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm illegally blind.

    2. Re:^Seconded. by Intron · · Score: 1

      Sorry to hear that. I'm sending you a coupon for dinner at Illegal Seafood.

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  61. Phone reading images *without* interpretation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  62. Regular phone / Cell phoneth by zakezuke · · Score: 1

    When I think of blind phone users, I think of regular phones, where you dial numbers and they reach people. While it would be nice to have speaking menus so a blind user could navigate their phone and access the spiffy features, perhaps some cool text to speech to handle text messaging, I think the main goal would be your basic no frills phone. Nice pad with a mark for the number 5, as well as an obvious send and end button.

    I can't think of the model, but tracfone had a Nokia in their lineup which was just this, a basic phone with no real features other than being a phone. No camera, no MP3 support, just a phone.

    Call me silly, but that should be the main criteria, the ability to operate based on typing in a bunch of numbers and making a call.

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  63. Re:blind people need cancer too. by Tripkipke · · Score: 1

    If you really want to impress me make a cellphone for the deaf...

  64. My sister, who is blind... by Kadagan+AU · · Score: 1

    My blind sister uses an LG Env 2. It has screen reader software on it, so she can text message. It's pretty amazing actually. When she receives an incoming call, it says out loud who is calling. It's not quite as good as the screen reader on her computer, but it gets the job done. It has a full qwerty keyboard, which she uses since she knows the layout of a standard keyboard. Also, once it's closed, it has a standard key pad on the front, for dialing. She's had the phone for about 3 weeks now, and completely loves it.

    Unfortunately, she won't stop texting me.

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  65. Text Messaging by Kadagan+AU · · Score: 1

    I understand that this post was loaded with sarcasm, but blind people actually can send text messages. There are multiple phones with screen readers built in.

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  66. Possibility of "sight to sound" a plus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been in touch with a blind user who is very interested in "the vOICe," an audio vision system. http://www.seeingwithsound.com

    This potentially runs on some cellphones, although the hardware support isn't quite there for the realtime mode (no convenient way to interface a head-mounted camera on most phones).

  67. It's shocking... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that there are not more phones for disabled users. My father has parkinson's and I've found it quite a challenge to find a good phone for him. I'm glad for the suggestions in this thread, but VERY DISAPOINTED in the phone companies for not doing better on this front.
    I would think that soon with the baby boomers reaching retirement (and old age/frailty) that this will become a very large market. If the mobile companies are listening, you should really get on the ball with this.
    Isn't it possible that the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) could be used to bludgeon the mobile carriers into offering better phones for disabled users?

  68. I never understood cell phone design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every upgrade I've had that gave me better screen resolutions, colors, etc, has come at the cost of usability for the primary function a cell phone is for: Calling people!

    Example, the best phone for general calls I found was my Ericson from 1999. It was a nice small size, but had black and white crappy LCD screen. Couldn't play games, MP3s or browser the intarnetz, but, without looking at the phone, I could feel the buttons, find the '5' key, which had a little nub on it, and then I could dial without looking at the phone.

    When would I use that? Yeah ok, when driving. Say what you want about cell phone use while driving, the thing is, people will do it, unless expressly forbidden. So what have the manufacturers done? They made all their phones with flat keys you can't feel. Some still have a slight bump to them, but where's the nub to find the "center" button?

    So now phones are made LESS usable, and where it's not made illegal, people STILL try to use them while driving. BUT now they are forced to LOOK at the phone thanks to boneheaded phone designers. THAT is the main cause of cell phone driving problems. I know some people zone out while talking, but it's looking down to type out 10 digits that's really dangerous.

  69. Nothing Fancy, but for $20... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.i4donline.net/news/news-details.asp?newsid=13747

    The display less People's Phone will retail for $10-20 in India.

  70. Re:blind people need cancer too. by Discoflamingo13 · · Score: 1

    My cellphone (a Sanyo Sprint S1) has TTY support built-in, specifically so that it can be used by the deaf.

  71. Okay by Friendly+Pyro · · Score: 1

    While I was sure blind people usually had someone with them to help them and I'd think to make calls, I guess not always but there are plenty of standard phones that support voice recognition you could probably also find phone with braille keys or at least bold numbers.