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Colfer Asked To Write Sixth HHGTTG Book

clickety6 writes "Eoin Colfer, the Irish author of a number of books (including the popular children's book series 'Artemis Fowl'), has been directly approached by Douglas Adam's widow, Jane Belson, to write a sixth book to continue the (even more) increasingly inaccurately named Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy trilogy."

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  1. No. Finish the Infocom Sequel by fyrie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd rather see the Infocom HHGTTG Sequel completed/released.

    1. Re:No. Finish the Infocom Sequel by meringuoid · · Score: 3, Informative
      I'd rather see the Infocom HHGTTG Sequel completed/released.

      Not going to happen. A few fragments of code are all that exist, and there's no commercial market for such games in 2008, and both Infocom and Douglas Adams are dead. Write it yourself; there's a healthy subculture of interactive fiction writing even today, and the Inform language is actually not at all bad, all things considered.

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    2. Re:No. Finish the Infocom Sequel by achacha · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The question is: are people willing to use their imagination when they are force-fed every feature directX 10 has to offer (shading, tons of light sources, fog, environments, shadows, physics engine, ragdoll physics) at insane resolutions.

      While I grew up playing almost every Infocom game out there and I still have the Atari 8-bit versions ready-to-play via emulator, I have yet to find anyone under 30 that thinks it's fun.

      For many, text adventure games are akin to a wheel made of stone, great in the day but with vulcanized rubber why would anyone use a stone wheel except in a museum...

      On a positive note, there is a counterculture of writers that still use the Z-Engine (Infocom text game engine) to write games based on their original works. So all hope is not lost :)

      To date no game was more memorable than Station Fall, when Floyd died, it broke my heart and to this day I feel sad for him and wished there was a way to save him.

    3. Re:No. Finish the Infocom Sequel by geoffspear · · Score: 4, Funny

      I agree. Eoin Colfer should definitely devote his time to programming an Infocom game instead of writing a book.

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    4. Re:No. Finish the Infocom Sequel by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The question is: are people willing to use their imagination when they are force-fed every feature directX 10 has to offer (shading, tons of light sources, fog, environments, shadows, physics engine, ragdoll physics) at insane resolutions.

      Oh, snore... Not that old bit about kids these days with their polygons and their shaders. I suppose next you're gonna tell me to get off your "West of house"...

      I mean, I like classic games and text adventures - I just hate this attitude that there's some fundamental quality of them that makes them better than today's games. That's just nostalgia talking.

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    5. Re:No. Finish the Infocom Sequel by fyrie · · Score: 2, Informative

      The BBC did try this with the original HHGTTG game. Give it a go here

    6. Re:No. Finish the Infocom Sequel by Zalgon+26+McGee · · Score: 2, Informative

      Er, Floyd died in Planetfall, as you cradled him in your arms and recited his favourite poem, the Ballad of the Star-Crossed Miner.

              O, they ruled the solar system
              Near ten thousand years before
              In their single starcrossed scout ships
              Mining ast'roids, spinning lore.

              Then one true courageous miner
              Spied a spaceship from the stars
              Boarded he that alien liner
              Out beyond the orb of Mars.

              Yes, that ship was filled with danger
              Mighty monsters barred his way
              Yet he solved the alien myst'ries
              Mining quite a lode that day.

              O, they ruled the solar system
              Near ten thousand years before
              'Til one brave advent'rous spirit
              Brought that mighty ship to shore.

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    7. Re:No. Finish the Infocom Sequel by Drooling+Iguana · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I played a lot of text adventures when I was a kid, but these days I can't stand anything more primitive than The Secret of Monkey Island. I'm sorry, but endless "guess the verb" sessions are not my idea of a good time.

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    8. Re:No. Finish the Infocom Sequel by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I just hate this attitude that there's some fundamental quality of them that makes them better than today's games. That's just nostalgia talking.

      I think text games allow for imagination to blossom, and 3D "shiny" games lend themselves to becoming glorified movies.

      Bear with me... It's like the latest commercial from LeapFrog (a computer-learning company): A grown man in a frog costume is behind a table with a bunch of books telling the viewers how much better the LeapFrog Tag(TM) Reading System helps children read, and then a little boy comes up to the table, waves a wand over his LeapFrog book, and the book reads to him. The man asks the boy which book he likes better, the LeapFrog book, or an older book. The boy responds derisively: "That book doesn't talk"
      When I first saw that commercial, I was appalled. The boy is just being spoonfed; he's only learning that reading is _hard_ and that talking books are better because you don't have to _think_. I later became appalled that LeapFrog would think that this commercial would appeal to parents. I then later became appalled because I realized that the marketing firm that made the ad must have done their research, and parents really think this is good. /rant

      So, a lot of today's games are like the LeapFrog books, where any puzzles are spoonfed because the designers want you to finish the game and buy another title, and you're not required to imagine a little white house. The designers don't _want_ you to imagine stuff, because then you end up falling into an abyss where the level designers forgot to place a wall because you were curious, or you skip a trigger and kill the bad guy before he gives his monologue, and he gives it then anyway. Okay, "give troll to troll" does this too...

  2. Don't panic by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 5, Funny

    The mice will interfere if need be.

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    1. Re:Don't panic by petes_PoV · · Score: 5, Funny

      The mice are underwriting the next book - they want to know what'll happen, too.

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  3. What? by vjmurphy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How about Brian Herbert, Todd McCaffrey or Christopher Tolkien? Or is it too hard pulling them off the graves and/or shriveling bodies of their parents?

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    1. Re:What? by meringuoid · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I don't get the hate for Christopher Tolkien. Without his work, we would have The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings - nothing else at all. We would know the Elder Days only through the fragments of half-forgotten legend we hear in the Third Age - occasional cryptic references to the Eldar of the West, to Numenor, to Gondolin and the swords they made for the wars with the goblins, to Beren and Lúthien... We'd never have heard the full tales.

      Christopher Tolkien isn't producing cheap cash-ins on his father's legacy. He compiled the Silmarillion, then spent decades writing and publishing detailed analyses of the reams of notes and fragmentary manuscripts that lay behind the legends, and finally tidied up the Narn i Hîn Húrin to a publishable form. And I for one am very glad that he did so.

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    2. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think that's a fair assessment, since for the most part he was acting as organizer and editor of material that was already written. The others, however, are merely riding on their parents coattails.

    3. Re:What? by ph0rk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also, quoth wikipedia: CJRT drew the original LOTR maps, so he possessed at least a passing familiarity with the work in the eyes of his father.

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    4. Re:What? by hey! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, I was thinking more Terry Jones.

      After all, he as already done a novel in the HTTG universe, one that was warmly received by Douglas Adams himself.

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    5. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings were, for me, the only readable books. And only barely readable, in the case of LotR. The Silmarillion makes me reach for a real history textbook for interest. Of all the books I started reading of my own free will (and there are a lot of them), it is, to date, the only one which I've been unable to bring myself to finish.

      I think I'm not the only one with that opinion and I expect it's a large part of the hate for Christopher Tolkien.

    6. Re:What? by osee · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Care to name the book you are referring to as "entirely new crap"?

      I have read a few of his books, but none of them were really new. They just told the story of the creative process based on his father's rather unwieldy mound of notes.

    7. Re:What? by Sobrique · · Score: 3, Funny

      What's this nonsense? There are no continuations. There are only 3 Dune books, and they are excellent. I disbelieve your foul and cunning illusion of there being others.

    8. Re:What? by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are some really great stories in the Silmarillion, unfortunately it's in a style of writing that's more akin to an academic textbook than a pleasure read.

      The problem is that he's trying to create a mythology for a fantasy world. Traditionally the old greek mythology I'm familiar with relied upon the reader to know and accept certain facts as being in evidence, and thus the stories proceeded straight into explaining how those truths came to be, and that's the most fun part. For Tolkien's world, we have no frame of reference, so he has to set the stage in gory detail.

      I don't feel very robbed reading what Christopher Tolkien produced (though I get a headache at times, but that was true with LOTR), I believe he's really just cleaning his Dad's work and making it edible, and I think he's done a decent job (at least insofar as the Silmarillion is concerned).

      Now Brian Herbert...another story. I'm not even sure Frank Herbert's Dune sequels were that great, I'm not sure why this continues on. I guess I was less enthralled with the Universe of Dune which seemed bland, as I was with the story of Dune.

    9. Re:What? by joelwyland · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't get the hate for Christopher Tolkien. Without his work, we would have The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings - nothing else at all.

      Amusingly, I think you answered your own question here. The Silmarillion was a horrible book. The scattered notes, often contradictory, were not finished nor meant to be published. The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings was what should have been published. Nothing else.

    10. Re:What? by retchdog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What?! Three Dune books? I know of no such thing, there is only Dune.

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    11. Re:What? by DamnStupidElf · · Score: 2, Funny

      <Voice>Quiet, you! Now go read all 6 books.</Voice>

    12. Re:What? by ultranova · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The Silmarillion was a horrible book. The scattered notes, often contradictory, were not finished nor meant to be published. The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings was what should have been published. Nothing else.

      It is a horrible book allright, but I'm still glad it was published. Some of us just love to burrow into a backstory like Gollum into Misty Mountains. For example, I've read dozens of D&D rulebooks just for fun, without ever having played the game.

      Then again, I also consider physics textbooks light reading before bed...

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    13. Re:What? by dwye · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > Without his work, we would have The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings - nothing else at all

      No, we wouldn't even have that. Only he, and his family, and a few friends to whom JRRT told bedtime stories about elves and gnomes, would have had any of it. It was only when Christopher began correcting JRRT, reminding Daddy that he told it differently the last time, that JRRT started putting anything on paper, just to be consistent. Without that, he would never have produced anything more that Farmer Giles and Ham (at least that non-professional philologists would read).

  4. NO NO NO by jacquesm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Enough Douglas Adams milking already, please for the love of - insert deity here - do not destroy the legacy of this great author.

    Sorry for the rant, have just watched the movie...

    1. Re:NO NO NO by ari_j · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Are you saying that the movie destroyed his legacy, or that you are more sensitive because the movie glorified his legacy and you don't want that feeling taken away?

    2. Re:NO NO NO by jacquesm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't think so because the Dirk Gently stuff wasn't produced by then (and that definitely is Douglas Adams at his best, great gods of guilt in a refrigerator :) ).

      I think it works like with most things produced by people of such amazing talent, they lose interest because too much of it is already cast in concrete by mistakes earlier on.

      Like working on a big software project, the maintenance phase is not the most fun part, unless you did everything just right in the beginning. And judging by Douglas Adams's writing about the making of the hitch hikers guide he was very much feeling his way while making the radio plays and this led to all kinds of dissatisfaction while making the books because so much was already set in stone.

      I personally think the radio plays are the 'definitive' edition (in spite of all their shortcomings) because they catch the atmosphere the best. The books however greatly expand upon the story, but I can't help hearing Peter Jones' (rip as well, but at least at a respectable age) voice when reading the guide quotes :)

       

    3. Re:NO NO NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Chapter One

      Turning from the rain-streaked window, Trillian's teary gaze searched pensively around the room and came to rest on the silver-framed photograph on the mantelpeice. She sighed, her heart heavy with unshed tears. It seemed so long ago - the good times she had shared with Arthur Dent and Ford Prefect. Could it have been a thousand years? As she remembered one of the good times, a single tear, like a frozen diamond, spilled down her cheek and splashed quietly on the white marble floor. Unable to restrain herself, she collapsed against the floor, hands to her face, and sobbed uncontrollably.

      A tiny hand reached up and tugged her sleeve.

      "Mommy?"

      "Oh Ford Junior!" Trillian sobbed. "You remind me so of your father, and the good times we shared so very long ago.. but they're both dead now, and ypu're all I have left to remember them by."

      "That's right, forget about me as usual!." grumbled a familiar voice suddenly.

      "Oh Marvin!" she laughed "You know I would never forget about you - after all you're all that I have to remember them Arthur and Ford by. I see you're still your grumpy old self!"

      She paused with grief as the full meaning of this hit her, and she shuddered and started to weep again, like a pure white nightingale whose eggs have been stolen and eaten by a fateful cat.

      Oh sorry. I see now.. don't ruin the legacy. Gotcha.

    4. Re:NO NO NO by jacquesm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Douglas Adams was one of the bigger obstacles in the way of making a movie, and I don't think it would have ever had his blessing. The script sucks (random rearrangements, insertions of 'new' but irrelevant stuff all over the place, and deletions of essentials elsewhere).

      Of course, it made money so who am I to complain, but it left me with a definite unhappy and disappointed feeling.

      When hearing the radio play and reading the book you get a definite mental image of the kind of universe that Douglas Adams wanted you to see, and most of the movie contradicts that mental image.

      There is a joke about that:

      A man walks into a movie theater and sees a donkey standing in the aisle.

      He walks up to the row behind the man with the donkey and whispers in the guys ear: "Wow, how amazing, he's really looking at the movie, isn't he?"

      Yes, says the guy with the donkey, sure is. But he like the book better...

    5. Re:NO NO NO by petes_PoV · · Score: 5, Funny

      Enough Douglas Adams milking already, please for the love of -

      • insert deity here

      - do not destroy the legacy of this great author.

      That would be Zarquon - but he's running late

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    6. Re:NO NO NO by Hatta · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I caught the beginning of that movie on TV the other day. I got as far as Arthur Dent lying in front of the bulldozer, complaining about the demolition notice that was "in the cellar". No mention of a locked filing cabinet, disused lavatory, or even a leopard! I changed the channel right then.

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    7. Re:NO NO NO by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sorry for the rant, have just watched the movie...

      Well, speak for yourself... I quite enjoyed the movie, and felt it was a good portrayal of Adams' universe. I've never really been sure why other HHGTTG fans seem to hate it so much.

      do not destroy the legacy of this great author.

      Nothing can destroy his legacy. He's dead, and his legacy is set in stone. All they could possibly destroy would be the legacy of the guy who did a bad job (if he does a bad job, I guess, but I consider it a fair bet).

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    8. Re:NO NO NO by kalirion · · Score: 5, Funny

      what a waste to do that anonymous :)

      Would you have preferred that "ecolfer" post as himself here?

    9. Re:NO NO NO by DeusExMach · · Score: 2, Interesting

      DNA was notorious for not reading his own work when writing a sequel or adapting it to a different medium, hence all the differences between the Book, and the radio play, and eventually the movie. It's not that he wanted constant rewrites... he just forgot what he said had happened and was too busy to go back and check. Honestly, I don't think he'd be too upset about someone using the Guide universe as a launchpad for another project if his widow benefits. The amazing thing is, we could have had the Guide as a movie 20 years ago, if it wasn't for Dan Akroyd hijacking the pitch meeting for his own purposes. ...fucking Ghostbusters...

    10. Re:NO NO NO by Molt · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ford should be knowledgeable and a man of the world, not an bumbling idiot, just odd

      A man of the world? A man of the galaxy I'd have hoped, or at least the parts where respectable journalists can get respectably drunk on a utterly disrespectful salary.

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    11. Re:NO NO NO by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are you refering to the Disney movie that Doglas Adams wrote the screenplay for?

      OK, first, Adams didn't work in a vacuum or finish the screenplay himself, what with being dead and all. Second, why does everyone assume that the potential for that movie to suck, to miss the point of the original books, etc. is inversely proportional to the extent of Adams's involvement in the project? I don't care if they held a seance to get Adams to review the script before they started shooting - the movie has real problems. And a few high points, but mostly just a lot of problems.

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    12. Re:NO NO NO by Abcd1234 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      random rearrangements, insertions of 'new' but irrelevant stuff all over the place, and deletions of essentials elsewhere

      ROFL, while I have my own critiques of the movie, this is probably the *last* reason to dislike the script. If you read the books and listened to the radio plays (or played the Infocom game), you'd know that DNA was quite happy to alter the HHGTTG storyline in order to fit the medium. The fact that the movie diverges from the books should be *expected*, not derided, given DNA's approach to the material.

    13. Re:NO NO NO by cerberusss · · Score: 4, Funny

      From the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest 2008

      Leopold looked up at the arrow piercing the skin of the dirigible with a sort of wondrous dismay -- the wheezy shriek was just the sort of sound he always imagined a baby moose being beaten with a pair of accordions might make.

      Shannon Wedge, New Hampshire

      Please, PLEASE read the rest of the entries. Hilarious.

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    14. Re:NO NO NO by HebrewToYou · · Score: 2, Funny

      He know where his towel is, that's for sure.

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    15. Re:NO NO NO by john83 · · Score: 2

      So much of Adams best jokes and ideas were asides, descriptions, inside someone's head, or otherwise unfilmable, that it's inevitable that any film version of the Hitchhiker's work would have to be just different enough to piss off Adams fans, particularly once he himself was no longer there to lend it credibility. The film was charming and fun, and if it was a pale shadow of the book, people should get over it. Douglas Adams is gone, and we won't see such talent applied to that universe again.

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  5. how many books planned in the franchise? by RMH101 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...42, obviously.

    1. Re:how many books planned in the franchise? by oodaloop · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think you've just discovered the ultimate question!

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    2. Re:how many books planned in the franchise? by Cocoronixx · · Score: 2, Funny
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  6. Sounds reasonable by prayag · · Score: 5, Informative

    Douglas Adams himself mentioned that Mostly Harmless was too dark and wanted the series to finish on a more upbeat note (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mostly_Harmless#Adams_on_Mostly_Harmless ). So it is quite plausible to believe that his widow would want to make her husband's wish true.

    1. Re:Sounds reasonable by Verdatum · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He had said that it was, but that he was in a bit of a dark place at the time, and he rather regretted it.

  7. Those resposible by ObitMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those responsible for this will be Sacked, and probably the first up against the wall when the revolution comes.

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    1. Re:Those resposible by MadKeithV · · Score: 2, Funny

      [Update] Those responsible were the first against the wall when the revolution came.

  8. NO. by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A tremendous feeling of peace came over him. He knew that at last, for once and for ever, it was now all, finally, over.

    Let's just leave it at that, shall we?

    1. Re:NO. by MRe_nl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      FTFA
      "No information has yet emerged about the plot of the novel but Hitchhiker fans will be hoping for a resurrection of much-loved characters Arthur Dent, Trillian and Ford Prefect, who were all apparently blown to smithereens at the end of the fifth novel, Mostly Harmless."

      No, they won't.

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    2. Re:NO. by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You have no idea how dejected I was upon reading those words. I'd love to see a reboot, and I don't agree with those who say it can't possibly be well done. Adams was a genius but he didn't have a monopoly on genius.

      Of course he didn't have a monopoly on genius, there are plenty of other people out there talented enough to come up with new things rather than shamelessly exploit one extraordinary man's vision.

      Hitch-hikers was always Douglas' baby, and it now serves as his major legacy and contribution to human culture. Let other geniuses have their own.

  9. Nope, sorry by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not going to read it, and I say that as a dedicated Douglas Adams fan - I have the omnibus edition of HHGTTG (thanks to my daughter), the movie on DVD, the BBC TV series on VHS, and am still after the radio play (which I've been told is the best of the lot).

    If Asimov's widow asked someone to continue his Foundation series I wouldn't read it, either, and Asimov was my favorite author.

    It wasn't the story that made it great, it was the writing. Without Douglas Adams it can't possibly be the same. It will be to the original what margarine is to butter. I can't imagine a writer with integrity taking the job.

    1. Re:Nope, sorry by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I have a shock for you. It's called the "Second Foundation Trilogy":

      After his death, the Asimov estate, at the request of Janet Asimov, approached Gregory Benford, and asked him to write another Foundation story. He agreed, and at that same time suggested that it should form part of a trilogy with Greg Bear and David Brin writing the other two books, which they agreed to do.

    2. Re:Nope, sorry by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Funny

      So in other words, this will be almost but not entirely unlike Douglas Adams' writing?

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    3. Re:Nope, sorry by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bear, Brin, and Benford are all talented, but there is a difference between extending Foundation and extending HHGTTG.

      The problem with extending the Hitchhiker universe is that it's driven by character interaction and DA's sense of humor.

      The first Foundation book was basically short stories, each with new characters, new settings, etc...Very easy to extend, just write a short story of your own. Make up your own characters, your own planet, whatever...All you have to do is genuflect toward psychohistory, Hari Seldon, and the fall of the empire. It's a historical backdrop that can accommodate any number of stories.

      Now imagine someone else trying to write dialogue between Ford and Arthur.

      Yea. It's like that.

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  10. No! by amdpox · · Score: 5, Funny

    I will NOT have my preciousness desecrated by non-canon material! He might introduce story arcs that don't fit with the carefully woven future history Adams so painstakingly built... wait, what was with the sandwiches again?

  11. All the diodes down my left side... by Bilby+Baggins · · Score: 5, Interesting

    hurt just thinking about it. Humans, I'll never understand them, you don't even need a brain the size of a planet to know this won't work.


    I just finished reading the 2003-updated edition of Neil Gaiman's Don't Panic: Douglas Adams & The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and I have to say that I don't believe anyone can really emulate Adams' particular style of writing. And unless they've found a treasure trove of almost-finished manuscripts (unlikely) the best that we have from Adams' writing before his death is mostly compiled in The Salmon Of Doubt, and there was just the merest inklings of a beginning of a truely Adamsian epic tale in there...


    Besides, we all know the only person who could write HHGttG properly is Terry Pratchett, and he is ONLY allowed to write Discworld books until he's unable to write or they cure Alzheimer's Disease. And someone sure as hell had better cure it.

    1. Re:All the diodes down my left side... by jacquesm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Good call on Terry Pratchett, he definitely took a lot of pages from Douglas Adams's play book. At the same time that sort of disqualifies him (emulation != the oroginal (tpine ?)).

      It really is very simple, Douglas Adams is dead, and no amount of 'franchising' is going to change that one bit, it never was about the story, it was about the writing, and that magical touch is not going to be reinstated with good will or effort, it would take the original to make that happen.

      That said, it is probably 'worth a lot of money' (said in a squeeky high voice) so most likely it will be done anyway.

      I for one will not be buying it.

    2. Re:All the diodes down my left side... by somersault · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Besides, we all know the only person who could write HHGttG properly is Terry Pratchett

      That's exactly what I was thinking :) Pratchett has a very similar style of humour to Adams, but IMO his stories are much better. Adams admitted that he just made up HHGTTG as he went along (though some parts tie in quite well together, showing he's still very clever as well as randomly creative), but Pratchett has stories that are sometimes amazingly intricate, and all his books fit in well together.

      Pratchett's books seem to have spoiled me with their combination of wit, often epic plots and well paced storytelling. They're so good that I sadly often find other books rather dull now (trudging through Dune at the moment, it reminds me a lot of LOTR with all the pointless geographical musings.. Pratchett manages to setup his atmosphere, landscapes and cityscapes rather well without being too monotonous).

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    3. Re:All the diodes down my left side... by Ihlosi · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Pratchett has a very similar style of humour to Adams, but IMO his stories are much better.

      Compare the earlier Discworld novels to the later ones, and you'll find that the writing style and the storytelling get better and better. Adams was on the same track, but unfortunately never got to write his later novels.

    4. Re:All the diodes down my left side... by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've been reading the Discworld books since "The Light Fantastic" was new. Frankly, (and I know I'm going to generate some real hating from this), I thought Terry Pratchett was more or less imitating Douglas Adams in the first two books, with their more-or-less meandering plots and fairly random happenings (plus lots of excellent writing and humor), but then he got BETTER. Much BETTER. [Don't get me wrong, I love Adams' stuff and my copies of his books are all dog-eared and well-worn... I even used to read them to my kids (they totally love the BBC TV version and the revent movie, but their consensus is that the BBC version is better, which makes me proud), and I play the radio shows on CD when we are in the car.]

      Pratchett gets the details the way Adams would... tons of really clever jokes (the guy even puns in Latin for cryin' out loud) and great dialog, the outrageously bizarre creations, the fantastic imagination of it all, but to that he adds incredible characterization and detailed plotting, stopwatch-perfect pacing, and some of the best satire ever written. I can get more of a "feeling" for, more inside the minds of, Commander Vimes or Granny Weatherwax or Tiffany Aching or even the Librarian from one chapter than I can get from Arthur or Trillian or Ford from 5 books. Out of places I've never been, Anhk-Morpork is more real and detailed to me than London, Paris or San Francisco.

      And the stories... they are huge, sprawling and often very abstract working on many different levels, while remaining very cohesive, and we never lose the little details that make the Discworld perhaps the "realest" imaginary world ever created, more detailed in many ways than Tolkien, stranger in many ways than Wonderland, and yet it's really just a funhouse mirror that casts an exaggerated, but very, very true reflection of our real world and our complex, wonderful and insane nature as human beings.

      Adams universe was just a vehicle for delivering his exceptional writing style and brilliant humor, but it never had a sense of being a "real place". The Discworld is carried by four elephants on the back of the great A'Tuin the star turtle, and yet feel more real than the most hardest of hard science fiction and the most scrupulously detailed of fantasy worlds.

      Plus, Nanny Ogg. Anyone who could create Nanny Ogg (or really, discover her and reveal her to the world!) is a hero in my book.

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    5. Re:All the diodes down my left side... by somersault · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, the first book was written in 1979, he had plenty of time to write more - he was just interested in other things. I was googling earlier to see if Pratchett ever mentioned being influenced by Adams, and saw a quote from Pratchett saying that Adams felt that writing got in the way of having fun, while for Pratchett it was kind of the other way round - he would much rather be writing! Pratchett brings out a new novel more than once a year, and it's not like they are lightweight drivel. I'm not suggesting that Adams wasn't a good writer too, but it wasn't something he was so passionate about compared to Pratchett.

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    6. Re:All the diodes down my left side... by Bilby+Baggins · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh yes, I fully agree- often times my favorite parts of Discworld novels are the not-funny parts- like the climax of The Fifth Elephant which brought me to tears, reading it yesterday in my dark, electricity-deprived apartment.

      Pratchett's humor (or is it humour?) comes from the same essentially British, psuedo-Pythonesqe dry wit and wry observations on life. I think that IF another book in the HHGttG multiverse were to be written, Pratchett would be the best option- BUT! It would be a Terry Pratchett book, written as he wants to write it. Only Douglas Adams can write Douglas Adams, but without the aid of a good crysal ball operator and lacking a touch-typing Ouiji board operator, I doubt we'll see any new Douglas Adams-written books.


      A few times in Don't Panic Neil Gaiman talks about the dark, somewhat dispairing feeling to much of Adams' works, something the author himself spoke of as well, saying that his situation in life and how he felt about it was reflected in his work, especially the early Hitchhikers works (Radio Series 1 & 2, Book 1). This essential darkness throws the humour into sharp relief while making the characters sense of desperation and hopelessness even more obvious to the reader. Terry Pratchett's works in contrast lack much of that disparity; even in the darker sections of his later novels ( Night Watch in particular, as well as portions of The Fifth Elephant and even going back to Lords and Ladies ) there is a sense of hope, that everyone will survive and we'll all gather around for tea after.

      Possibly even a sharper juxtaposition is the difference of "fate" in Pratchett's and Adams' books. The Hitchiker series as well as the Dirk Gently pair of novels indicate by word and action that the characters are free-willed, and the characters seem to understand that there is no "greater purpose"- it's all random, exemplified of course by Arthur Dent's erstwhile daughter Random Dent. Pratchett's books on the other hand always seem to have a "greater Plan", or "fate"- sometimes literally, as the gods playing games in Interesting Times, or as the genetically-predisposed-to-be-king Captain Carrot.


      Note: I'm stopping here because you've stopped reading anyhow, and this is deep in the comments so no one else will see it. Also, I'm hungry, and going to lunch.

    7. Re:All the diodes down my left side... by NiteShaed · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, since both names came up, how about a Neal Gaiman/Terry Pratchett collaboration....As pointed out in this thread, Gaiman has his ties to HHGTTG (as the gp mentions), Pratchet really is a great fit, and they did a great job on Good Omens together.

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  12. Re:TELL HIM NO by bigmouth_strikes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Very brave. Using an anonymous account posting someones private contact information. Very brave.

    You should have posted his official contact information, where he can deal with the responses during office hours, instead of whenever random /.er calls.

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  13. Share and Enjoy! by datajack · · Score: 4, Funny

    After taking numerous readings of the tastes of the audience, he will produce a book that is almost, but not-quite entirely unlike HHGTTG.

    GO STICK YOUR HEAD IN A PIG.

  14. OK I guess. by T.E.D. · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I suppose I don't have a problem with this, as long as its crystal clear that this is Colfer's book, set in the HHG universe. If there is any implication whatsoever that this is a new Douglas Adams book, I have a big problem with it.

    He's not pinin' for the fjords. He's dead. Let him go.

  15. I have some misgivings, but... by flinnb · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oddly enough, there were exactly 42 comments when I first saw this article. Perhaps this might turn out well...

  16. Better Option by trongey · · Score: 2, Funny

    She'd probably make more money if she just set up a website where we can all contribute $5 to keep her from publishing a new book.

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  17. Leave it as it s by the_other_chewey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...and go read Jasper Fforde's "Thursday Next" series.

    Hilarious, geeky (lots and lots of literary allusions), british as well,
    includes special features online (good for us /.ers), ...

  18. Good for her... by MythMoth · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...though I probably won't read it. I think that Douglas's style was inimitable - and it's painful when people try. Some people love the books for the story though, and before he died Douglas himself said that he might write another lighter sequel - that he was in a bad place when he wrote Mostly Harmless and that it was too dark as a result.

    He left a wife and daughter and I presume he would have wanted them to be ok; why shouldn't his wife do this? The works he was directly involved in are still there and will be no less enjoyable. I disliked the film, but it's still better to have the original stuff and a film that some people will like than just the originals so I feel the same way about this proposed sequel.

    People are too precious about these things. If you don't want 'em don't buy 'em. I'm with you. But don't try to tell the heirs about their responsibilities to a dead man if they're not suppressing anything.

    By all accounts Eoin Colfer is a good author. It's up to him to make something worthwhile of the new book regardless of whose footsteps he's following in.

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  19. Dirk Gently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I just put down Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, and frankly I wish there were more books from that Adams' series rather than HHGTTG.

    Don't get me wrong, those books are pure gold, but Gently is more my style right now. Mixed feelings though about anyone but Adams having a hand in anything like this...

  20. Re:Sixth book of the trilogy? by tompaulco · · Score: 2, Funny

    Precisely, no Trilogy should contain more than, say, 5 books.

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  21. Take it on its own merits if & when it's writt by pandrijeczko · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't see why so many people see this as such a great problem - this kind of stuff has been going on for years.

    What about the countless Star Trek books that have been written over the years, generally by authors who never had anything to do with writing for any of the original TV series or movies?

    Or how about the additional Star Wars books? It could be argued that a few books from the "X-Wing" series of books would have made much better movies than the dire Episodes 1 to 3.

    Or what about the newer James Bond books written by the likes of John Gardner, Raymond Benson & Kingsley Amis?

    I've read selections of books from all the above and some are very good and others not so good.

    So just leave it at that - if it gets written, decide when you read it. As far as I'm concerned, as a huge British HHGTTG fan, it can't be any worse than that Americanised piece of trash adaptation that hit the cinema screens a few years ago!

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  22. great! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Will this one be a another middle finger to the fans that kills off all the rest of the beloved characters?

  23. Re:Oh please no by IWannaBeAnAC · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The way the HHGTTG universe works is basically what it would be like if god (or multiple gods) had a really warped sense of humour and loved a good joke. From what I remember there are not so many points in the books where something happens that contradicts our experience but without a backstory. When Adams talks about small green pieces of paper that are, on the whole, not the ones that are unhappy, well, this is because the small green pieces of paper are just projections onto our universe of some 10-dimensional hyper-intelligent lego brick. The universe is set up to allow more or less anything, as long as it has some kind of purpose.

    The infinite improbability drive, for example, even though it is a bit ridiculous, plays on some of the more bizarre aspects of quantum mechanics, and it isn't so far from being plausible, if you imagine Zarquon has a surreal sense of humour.

    In comparison, videos leaving a residue sounds, by itself, a bit dumb. Adams would have invented some reason for them to leave a residue, even if it was just something like they were echoing cries of pain from of a previous universe where videos were used as a weapon of mass destruction. (Yeah OK so I'm not DNA. But hopefully I managed to convey the point?)

  24. Bingo - that's the difference by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Read the introduction to The Silmarillion. That's all Christopher was doing. Collecting his father's early stories and trying to figure out what was closest to canon. The early stories have discrepancies in them that make them mesh poorly. It was a monumental task to figure out each story and put them into the most coherent framework.

    But Christopher took the time out and figured it all out and came up with the most coherent version of the early work and made what wound up being my favorite book in the whole Tolkien series. Without him, we never would have heard about the Music of Arda, or Feanor, or any of it.

    He wrote nothing, changed nothing, and brought more of his father's work to the world. He has my eternal gratitude.

    Now, let's contrast that with Brian Herbert. Spoilers ahead.

    I got through House Atreides. And halfway through House Harkonnen before I gave up in disgust. They're not even as good as fan fiction. They're simply dismal. Having RM Mohaim be the mother of Jessica? Get serious. You know you're in deep shit if you're stealing plot ideas from George Lucas.

    And the writing itself is simply awful. It's like he took a dartboard with his father's wonderful mythology on it and threw darts at it. The characters have zero depth and sound like they're doing Dune impressions. He goes too far out of the way to have everyone use words from the original works.

    It's really awful. Penny Arcade said it best.

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  25. I hope not by roc97007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I believe this goes against Douglas Adams' wishes. "Mostly Harmless" seemed a deliberate effort by Adams to kill the series. (Spoiler: Everyone dies. The end.) I had an amazing opportunity to talk to Adams shortly before his death, and it seemed like he was deathly tired of the whole Hitchhiker thing.

    As far as I'm concerned, the series ended with So Long And Thanks For All The Fish. It's a good ending. No other novels were or are necessary.

    What I would much rather have seen is a third Dirk Gently novel. Although I have mixed feelings about someone else attempting it. The Long Dark Teatime of the Soul was a work of art. I don't see another author producing anything near as good that adhered to the spirit of the original.

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