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Bill Gates Founds New "Think Tank" Company

Homncruse sends in news of Bill Gates's new adventure, adding "I was working just one or two floors under this new office when it was all coming together. I even unknowingly shared an elevator with him at one time on his way up to the office." The article notes that the name "bgC3" derives from Bill Gates, catalyst, and the "third thing," neither Microsoft or the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. "Just months after his Microsoft farewell, Bill Gates is quietly creating a new company — complete with high-tech office space, a cryptic name and even its own trademark. Public documents describe the new Gates entity — bgC3 LLC — as a 'think tank.' It's housed within a Kirkland office that the Microsoft co-founder established on his own after leaving his day-to-day executive role at the company this summer ... However, bgC3 will also oversee Gates' personal pursuit of breakthrough ideas in science and technology. [An] insider said the goal isn't necessarily to create new companies, although ideas could be passed along to Microsoft, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation — or others — as it makes sense ..."

134 comments

  1. Borg Cubed? by mr_stinky_britches · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did the name 'bgc3' make anyone else think "Borg Cubed"?

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    1. Re:Borg Cubed? by pilgrim23 · · Score: 2, Funny

      There were one or two projects left over from the Traf-O-Data days he wants to look into. Also it will be a training school for Bulldozer drivers.

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    2. Re:Borg Cubed? by middlemen · · Score: 1

      Should have been named bgE3 for "Bill Gates Embrace Extend Extinguish" !

    3. Re:Borg Cubed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Bill Gates Company #3

      Duh... just cause it is a think tank does not mean the name needs to be over thought!

    4. Re:Borg Cubed? by imaginasys · · Score: 1

      OK BG are his initials. But isn't C3 an explosive ? Terrorists in view ?

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    5. Re:Borg Cubed? by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sure, but it's vastly inferior to (and has been replaced by) C4. C5 (with even more bang for the buck) is still in beta testing. :)

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    6. Re:Borg Cubed? by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

      Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of Kurros, from ST:VOY season 5 episode 20 Think Tank.

    7. Re:Borg Cubed? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      Even Bill acknowledges that nobody pays attention to his ideas until the third generation.

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    8. Re:Borg Cubed? by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Did the name 'bgc3' make anyone else think "Borg Cubed"?

      I was actually thinking "Bubblegum Crisis 3"...

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    9. Re:Borg Cubed? by Firehed · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can I get an invite to the beta?

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    10. Re:Borg Cubed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bugC3 with C3 being an emoticon a la XP in Windows XP. What's C3? It looks like a micro and soft male appendage. There you have it... Gates is always proud of his MicroSoft.

    11. Re:Borg Cubed? by severoon · · Score: 1

      Looks like MS is back to it's old tricks again—namely: stealing someone else's idea (his own ex-employee, no less). The idea is to found a venture to create new ideas...savor the irony.

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    12. Re:Borg Cubed? by Migity · · Score: 2, Funny

      I thought it was that nobody installs his software until service pack 3.

  2. Sharks by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 1, Funny

    With frickin' laser beams attached to their heads! Now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that cannot be done. Ah, would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? Throw me a bone here! What do we have?

    Ballmer: "Sea Bass"

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  3. Corbis? by isaac · · Score: 3, Informative

    Corbis is Bill Gates' second company, not the Foundation.

    -Isaac

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    1. Re:Corbis? by Frankenshteen · · Score: 1

      Third "thing" - not company.

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  4. 640GB should be enough for anyone... by olddotter · · Score: 0, Troll

    Given the MS record on REAL innovation, I hope he employees some new and better "thinkers." I'm just not to impressed with the last 30 years....

    1. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Warll · · Score: 1
    2. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by olddotter · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Seriously lets look at the record... They totally missed the web. Windows is fabulously successful commercially, but a total flop as a work of science. MS has taught everyone to accept poor quality in software. What is the software in your car, TV, DVD player, etc. were no more reliable than a Windows PC?

    3. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Warll · · Score: 3, Informative

      And what if the Space shuttle was as reliable as your car? Yeah its apples to oranges, integrated firmware is not the same as a full OS.

    4. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, um, about that ... you really need to read this book, paying special attention to who was at war with whom, and for how long. Also of note, is that Bill Gates does not claim that the Internet is just a fad, and never has claimed that the Internet is just a fad. Pay no attention to the fact that Gates said exactly that; so long as he denies it, it never happened!

      Anyone who thinks Gates is a "visionary" clearly hasn't read Gates' The Road Behind.

      On a side note, Amazon says:
      The Road Ahead (Penguin Readers, Level 3) (Paperback)

      ROTFLMAO ... They said Penguin in a M$ context; those kidders!

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    5. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by olddotter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Only because you have come to accept poor quality. If people didn't spend 20 years with PC's that were unreliable, they wouldn't accept poor quality in other areas. Now I have to deal with a cell phone that reboots daily, because its "good enough."

      There is no fundamental reason why a desk top PC is going to be unreliable. Poor design and quality control of the OS is the cause.

    6. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Warll · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just a quick question, what would the man have to do in order for you to accept that he is a visionary? Now don't for a second think that I'm calling him one, what I'm saying is that one should not have to invent every useful program/concept in order to qualify as a visionary.

      So he missed the internet, big deal, it's not like he was the only one.

    7. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      Get me a link to his denial from sometime before 1983. Having him deny saying something stupid almost a decade after it became painfully obvious that what he said was stupid isn't really good evidence is it?

    8. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Warll · · Score: 1

      Is it really that "painfully obvious"? So far my one like beats your zero links. Where did he say that? Why did he say that? Quite frankly I have never seen evidence to support that quote.

    9. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Rycross · · Score: 1

      How about showing a link that he did? I mean actual proof, not just an "everyone knows" message board or wiki posting. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim, and so far I haven't anyone produce one scrap of evidence backing this claim. In absence of evidence, Bill Gates' words are all we have to go on.

    10. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      And what if the Space shuttle was as reliable as your car?

      that would be good, given that the shuttle exploded and killed its passengers on 2 of 120 trips.

    11. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get me a link to his denial from sometime before 1983. Having him deny saying something stupid almost a decade after it became painfully obvious that what he said was stupid isn't really good evidence is it?

      How about the fact that the 640K limit was actually a limitation of the hardware. You may be surprised to learn this, but Bill Gates became famous for making software. He was never in any position to make any declaration about how much memory should or should not be enough for anyone.

      If anyone ever did actually say that quote, it would most likely be someone at Intel.

    12. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      I've read his book. I've heard him on TV. I've read interviews with him. I know exactly how he stole^H^H^H^H^H created innovative products like Windows. His one claim to fame is he thought people would pay for software when everybody else thought it should free with the hardware. WOW!!!! I don't call that innovative so much as greedy. Pretty much every other word out of his mouth is revisionist history based horse$hit. If he said "when Microsoft popularized the Computer Virus ..." at least he would be approaching the truth.

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    13. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

      At the time MS was trying to sell its MSN service as a walled garden as opposed to going straight to the internet. This was an attempt to compete with AOL, prodigy, etc. I wouldnt be surprised if Bill knew that the real fad was these walled garden services, but as always, business first. MSN now is just a website.

    14. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay, I'll bite.

      You convey a general impression that you think Bill Gates actually said "640K is enough for anyone". You don't actually say it, but you have this whole 1984 meme and you flame him about that Internet thing, so I think your implication is clear.

      So: citation needed. If you think he actually did say it, please point us to a reference showing where he said it.

      Yeah, in the days when Compuserve was the place to be, he thought that model was the one to use, and he missed the Internet. I agree. And, if we go back, I could dig up a quote where he said the 286 is a fabulous processor with untapped depths of performance waiting to be wrung out of it. In short, I've seen Bill Gates quotes that we can legitimately poke fun at him about.

      But if you are going to go all 1984-We-Have-Always-Been-At-War-With-Oceania on us, pull out the proof, please.

    15. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by LingNoi · · Score: 1

      I don't know what kind of shitty phone you use but my Motorola A1200 Linux smart phone never needs rebooting.

    16. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by UltraAyla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Blaming poor quality software written by other developers on Microsoft is pure blind hatred. Would you blame a defect in a pair of shoes on a competitor?

      Bottom line, companies choose their own quality levels. Some are exceptional, some aren't and the median level is set from that. Your cell phone's company made its own choices about quality. There are plenty of phones out there that work just fine (mine included) - don't shift blame.

    17. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by sortius_nod · · Score: 1

      The Symbian OS crashes like there's no tomorrow. I traded up from a Nokia N95 (Symbian) to an iPhone. Crashes are gone.

      I don't doubt your A1200 is the same.

    18. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      If you want to take a bite, invest a tooth ...

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    19. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Why do people always talk about those two trips and not the other 118?

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    20. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      "Blaming poor quality software written by other developers on Microsoft is pure blind hatred."

      ... if someone had done that somewhere in this thread, then you wouldn't sound like such a raving lunatic.

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    21. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows is fabulously successful commercially, but a total flop as a work of science.

      This is not flame bait, this is the TRUTH.

    22. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

      How about the fact that the 640K limit was actually a limitation of the hardware.

      That is revisionist truth. It is true that the IBM PCs memory mapped their video card memory at 640KB. It is also true that (of the docs I read at the time) PC DOS manuals recommended using DOS calls for I/O instead of applications diddling with memory themselves. DOS, however, was not much of an OS and applications were allowed to diddle with the video card memory directly.

      In other words, it was the same sort of situation with regards to installation of programs - they ignored guidelines, but since the guidelines were not enforced (until Microsoft Vista) no one cared.

      The 640KB "limitation" was due to misguided programmers poking directly into video card memory. A stupid practice at best, but standard practice at the time and ignored by PC DOS for "performance" reasons, so it flourished.

      It was NOT a hardware limitation.

      I found a quote that was much worse:
      http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/comphist/gates.htm

      I laid out memory so the bottom 640K was general purpose RAM and the upper 384 I reserved for video and ROM, and things like that. That is why they talk about the 640K limit. It is actually a limit, not of the software, in any way, shape, or form, it is the limit of the microprocessor.

      Only to the dimwitted ... Notice also how he takes credit for IBM's system design.

    23. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by UltraAyla · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should read the thread then.

      MS has taught everyone to accept poor quality in software. What is the software in your car, TV, DVD player, etc. were no more reliable than a Windows PC?

      Then one post later

      If people didn't spend 20 years with PC's that were unreliable, they wouldn't accept poor quality in other areas. Now I have to deal with a cell phone that reboots daily, because its "good enough."

    24. Re:640GB should be enough for anyone... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      In neither case is anyone blaming poor quality software written by other developers on Microsoft! They are blaming Microsoft for the fact that the public considers seriously buggy software to be the norm. He points out that other companies have figured out that Microsoft lowered the bar and so they cut costs to come in just under it. So nobody is blaming the poor code quality on Microsoft, since obviously it is the developers at the various companies writing the code, not M$. They are simply blaming Microsoft for the fact that the bar is so low thanks to them.

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  5. Rich PPL by Wiarumas · · Score: 5, Funny

    GAWD! First Google with jet fighters... now Bill Gates with think TANKS. What's next?

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    1. Re:Rich PPL by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hopefully Steve Jobs with a suicide vest.

    2. Re:Rich PPL by truthsearch · · Score: 1

      Amazon a-bombs, Ballmer bombers, Slashdot submarines?

    3. Re:Rich PPL by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      No, I'm fairly sure Steve Jobs isn't Palestinian.

    4. Re:Rich PPL by syrinx · · Score: 1

      No, Slashdot has cruisers.

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    5. Re:Rich PPL by kungfugleek · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, Slashdot has trolls.

    6. Re:Rich PPL by jack2000 · · Score: 1, Funny

      RMS and his squad of Katana wielding Samurai of course !

    7. Re:Rich PPL by kalel666 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Nope, Lebanese.

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    8. Re:Rich PPL by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      "Ballmer bombers"

      Is that a new english word for a piece of furniture?

    9. Re:Rich PPL by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      First Google with jet fighters... now Bill Gates with think TANKS. What's next?

      Balmer's Guided Cruise Chairs[TM].
           

    10. Re:Rich PPL by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      GAWD! First Google with jet fighters... now Bill Gates with think TANKS. What's next?

      Oh, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Those Fuchikomas are pretty dangerous if you are fighting one, but ordinarily they're too preoccupied with musing on the philosophical implications of their existence as A.I. and the meaning of humanity in an increasingly cybernetic world, or obsessing over data-linking with every intelligent machine they come across to give much thought to practical matters...

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    11. Re:Rich PPL by Captain+DaFt · · Score: 1

      Remember kiddies; after dropping a "Ballmer Bomber", Use TP, flush, and wash your hands!

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    12. Re:Rich PPL by Foofoobar · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah but that would be one damn stylish vest I'll bet

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    13. Re:Rich PPL by Pebby · · Score: 1

      Subway Submarines. Baskin Robbins ICBM (Ice Cream Ballistic Missiles).

    14. Re:Rich PPL by TechForensics · · Score: 1

      Yeah but that would be one damn stylish vest I'll bet

      No mod points, but I have to tell you. This is one of the funniest comments I've seen on Slashdot in a LONG damn time ! !

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    15. Re:Rich PPL by Foofoobar · · Score: 1

      You think thats funny? the sad fact is most mac fans would never use them because they love them too much.

      The windows suicide vest would require 3 car batteries and would sometime just blow off your arm.

      The linux suicide vest can run off a potato but requires a rocket scientist in order to put on.

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    16. Re:Rich PPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two fish in a tank.

      One says to the other, "How do you drive this thing?"

      baddum-*tish*

    17. Re:Rich PPL by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 1

      Damn, I want one already. But it'll probably be pretty expensive.

      Maybe Samsung will make a cheap knockoff, that sets off randomly.

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    18. Re:Rich PPL by monktus · · Score: 1

      Don't be ridiculous, Steve would never wear a vest! Suicide turtle neck maybe, but only if he was super pissed off with someone he bumped into in the lift.

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    19. Re:Rich PPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Killer style?

  6. Re:LOL WUT by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    I doubt it. In any event, you'd have to be richer than Bill Gates to find out.

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  7. Re:LOL WUT by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 0

    She has a relationship with Bill Gates, so I would have to say that it is pretty clear she does, even if she didn't intend to originally and was promised time and again that it wouldn't happen.

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  8. hope he doesnt become a patent troll by peter303 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Like his VP who left MicroSoft some years ago.

    1. Re:hope he doesnt become a patent troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear patent trolling is becoming insanely lucrative - if you work in fast-moving sectors like cellphones or biotech.

      You just need craploads of patents and about 10 years and you can retire easily without doing a thing.

  9. "It's housed within a Kirkland office" by joeflies · · Score: 4, Funny

    Costco sells offices now?

    1. Re:"It's housed within a Kirkland office" by dreamchaser · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Costco sells offices now?"

      Only in bulk.

    2. Re:"It's housed within a Kirkland office" by keytoe · · Score: 1

      Costco sells offices now?

      Only if you buy them in cases of 6. It's hard to justify the upfront investment if there's a possibility you won't use them all before the expiration date.

  10. WE MUST PROTECT ourselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ourselves from the greater evil Microsoft was unable to deliver

    1. Re:WE MUST PROTECT ourselves by MR.Mic · · Score: 1

      Microsoft Bob 2?

  11. Re:IT companies arm up! by BlowHole666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    while AMD buys an aircraft carrier from the near-bankrupt US Army

    Umm that would be the Navy.

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  12. Seems sensible by symes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To be honest, it sounds like a nice retirement project... sit around, drink coffee, come up with a few whacky ideas, shoot the breeze with a few interesting people. If I had his money I'd probably do something similar. Except I'd have it located somewhere a little more interesting. Like Paris, Berlin, Singapore... or all three!

    1. Re:Seems sensible by guyminuslife · · Score: 5, Funny

      An underground lair located in a volcano?

      I bet he could afford real sharks.

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    2. Re:Seems sensible by moderatorrater · · Score: 1

      I head that Parlingapore's commutes are a bitch, though.

    3. Re:Seems sensible by speed+of+lightx2 · · Score: 1

      At the same time, it' s no ordinary office space. Visitors say it' s fully stocked with Microsoft technologies, including a Surface tabletop computer with a virtual guestbook application.

      and it's very high tech! For some reason, the fact that it's "stocked with Microsoft technologies" makes it sound like a very ordinary office.

    4. Re:Seems sensible by IronChef · · Score: 3, Informative

      I bet it's on the "Kirkland Riviera," the part of downtown Kirkland that's right on the lake. There are even bikinis visible in the parks there during the three warm weeks of the year.

      I live nearby. I should polish up my resume. ;)

    5. Re:Seems sensible by Binder · · Score: 1

      Now he will finally have time to perfect Microsoft BoB and that damn paperclip.

    6. Re:Seems sensible by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 1

      The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.

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    7. Re:Seems sensible by Narnie · · Score: 1

      damn... you used my paperclip joke.
      Anyway, perhaps as a second project, Bill hopes to re-engineer Microsoft's current selection of chairs.

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    8. Re:Seems sensible by Homncruse · · Score: 1

      Nope - Carillon Point :) 4000 building.

    9. Re:Seems sensible by IronChef · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I saw that in an article shortly after I posted. I still consider that part of the "Kirkland Riviera" though. :)

  13. Some funny thoughts on the new company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A funny column on PCMag http://tinyurl.com/6gssp6

  14. Its a media company by rimcrazy · · Score: 2, Funny

    They are going to make crappy commercials staring Bill with has-been comedians.

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    1. Re:Its a media company by narcberry · · Score: 1

      They had Bean?
      I love Mr. Bean!

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  15. First idea from the thinktank will be.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bob 2.0

  16. Congrats Bill by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    I hear Ballmer has already thrown in some chairs for his new office.

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    1. Re:Congrats Bill by omkhar · · Score: 1

      I hear Ballmer has already thrown in some chairs for his new office.

      that was his office warming present you insensitive clod!

  17. no ordinary office... by BattleApple · · Score: 1

    At the same time, it's no ordinary office space. Visitors say it's fully stocked with Microsoft technologies, including a Surface tabletop computer with a virtual guestbook application.

    wow. fancy.

  18. Design review to make MS products usable? by presidenteloco · · Score: 0

    I have about a million items
    wrong with microsoft software products
    that could use some design review.

    Not sure why it didn't happen the
    first time, but maybe Bill has some
    time on his hands now.

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    1. Re:Design review to make MS products usable? by navyjeff · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have about a million items
      wrong with microsoft software products
      that could use some design review.

      Not sure why it didn't happen the
      first time, but maybe Bill has some
      time on his hands now.

      Burma Shave.

  19. nothing profitable outside of Windows, by Locutus · · Score: 1

    and the B&MGF just spends profits from MSFT and even has been said to require Microsoft-only software in computer donations. So no wonder Bill Gates is trying to get others to come up with an idea he can profit from. With Microsoft having been a one-trick pony for all these years, just maybe Bill can find someone else who can come up with a hit.

    Knowing the history of Microsoft and Windows, it was not really the product which made the business, it was the business behind the product and that faithful deal with IBM.

    So could Bill Gates really build a business around a product which has to stand the test of the market to be successful? Think how Steve Jobs did the iPod and iTunes even though the Mac was still less than 5% of the market. People loved it and when they finally came out with the MS Windows version of iTunes, it opened up a maket of 100s of millions to the product and they came. There was not tying or leveraging of the iPod to a monopoly positioned product.

    Personally, I don't think he has it in him do make this work. Just they way he publicly talks about things like speech recognition as the next big thing shows he's not good at doing "the next big thing". And they, Microsoft, have always been followers in tech and only get where they do because they leverage 90% marketshare with Windows. We shall see and he sure does have the bucks to get anything off the ground. And hey, the Spruce Goose got off the ground too. ;-)

    LoB

    it is Bill Gates who doen't have

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    1. Re:nothing profitable outside of Windows, by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      To be fair, it is most likely just the way any true computer nerd/geek will express themselves, when they can afford to do so. What better than their own private lab, to explore their own ideas, as well as investigate new ones. So a self indulgence, likely but, it is still far better than spending it of private jets and mega yachts or on other ostentatious extravagances.

      Who knows perhaps they might even explore new ideas in free open source software.

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    2. Re:nothing profitable outside of Windows, by Locutus · · Score: 1

      Gates is still trying to shake off what IBM and others have said regarding Microsoft not being a tech company. But, he is tied to Windows hook line and sinker. His Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, from what I've heard, prevents those accepting funding from using open source software. That is a diehard Windows advocate and Bill will not change that. IMO.

      I would rather he spent it on jets, yachts, etc and he stayed the heck away from tech. He's delayed tech and innovation way too much over the past 20 years. We don't need him seeing what someone else starts, grabs it, and then start paying people to use it until they think it is something they want. I'm done with that.

      LoB

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  20. IOW, "Organised Crime Sets Up in Kirkland" by toby · · Score: 1

    Go on, mod me. I don't care.

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    1. Re:IOW, "Organised Crime Sets Up in Kirkland" by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      I'm impressed. Numerologically you user id adds up to 3.
      It must be frustrating for Bill personally. Imagine having billions of dollars at your disposal with every toy you want and realise that it's not enough, that you want to sit down with a clean sheet of paper on a new desk with a sharpened pencil and start thinking creatively.
      He's had a few years to do this and decided in the end that it's best to 'outsource' the creative aspect by forming a company and hiring creative people for his own personal thinktank.
      But how original can he be? Isn't he lock-stepped into his own creation of MS?
      Now he wants to develop hardware and software technologies for the future and to leave some kind of legacy for mankind!
      With his philosophy of 'buy the competition', strict licensing and corporate kowtowing, what kind of things is he going to come up with? Philanthropic hardware/software?
      I'm sort of vaguely interested.
      And Bill, if you are reading this, then I need a grant to help develop my Reactionless Force Vector Engine (RFVE).

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  21. Think tank? by Atrox666 · · Score: 1

    Do they still call it a think tank if they steal all their ideas?
    I guess if they sit around and think up better ways to rip people off.
    Maybe it'll be like the foundation and he'll just be trying to buy back his twisted little soul with his stolen money.

  22. All your idea are belong to us by kmahan · · Score: 1

    I wonder if the employment contract BG signed with Microsoft had the usual clause of "everything you've previously thought of, are currently thinking of, or will think of belongs to us" ?

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  23. I used to have a BFG3000 by blair1q · · Score: 1

    I used to be pretty good with a BFG3000.

    I wonder if Bill likes to frag.

  24. Third thing? by benjamindees · · Score: 1

    1. Start company
    2. Spend lots of money
    3. ???

    Though, seriously, I shouldn't criticize. We would all be better off if the third thing in Bill's next company weren't 'profit'.

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    1. Re:Third thing? by Repossessed · · Score: 1

      This is Gates we're talking about, it should go

      1. Start a company
      3. Profit
      3. ...?
      4 Spend massive amounts of money.

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  25. MSFT recent earnings report by xswl0931 · · Score: 1

    Take a look at the most recent MSFT earnings report (which came out yesterday I believe). You can find it on www.microsoft.com the Investor Relations section. Basically, in terms of income (not revenue): Client (aka Windows) made $3.2 billion, Server and Tools made $1.1 billion, MSFT Business Division (I'm assuming this includes Office) made $3.3 billion, and Entertainment (includes Xbox360) made $178 million. Online Services lost $480 million.

    1. Re:MSFT recent earnings report by Locutus · · Score: 1

      $178 million when 10s of billions were put into it is not being profitable. Didn't they just write off $3 billion for Xbox overheating issues just 8 or so months ago? That's not profitable IMO.

      And the rest of it, that's all Windows based and except for Windows itself, leveraged the monopoly position of Windows. What I said was that they were not profitable outside of Windows.

      But I am surprised you didn't mention their mice and keyboards. That is the only thing outside of Windows where they have made profits.

      LoB

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  26. Re:Sharks But, will it be.. by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    Sink Tank, or STINK Tank, or STINK, then TANK?

    Hopefully he's learned enough of what people HATE in/of/about msoft to avoid those mistakes again..

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  27. He should make a distro by Xamusk · · Score: 1

    He could follow Mark Shuttleworth's adventure in the Linux world.
    Maybe an MSbuntu?

  28. bgc3.com by RobBebop · · Score: 1

    I looked at the source code of his new webpage and he ISN'T using Frontpage.

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    1. Re:bgc3.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he is hardly using anything...

  29. Re:IT companies arm up! by theurge14 · · Score: 1

    Maybe that's why the Army is 'near-bankrupt'.

  30. How right you are! by mangu · · Score: 1

    After all, who am I to disagree with a three-digit /. id?

    Take a look at the bottom on TFA, in "Related Articles"

  31. What to do? What to Do? by tuxgeek · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Considering that BG bought the original dos, QDDOS, from an unsuspecting hacker, and he paid meat puppets to code all the garbage he marketed, I'll bet he didn't start a new company for innovation purposes. He is nothing more than a successful scam artist.

    Probably brain storming now how to buy Linux and then destroy it.

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  32. Maybe he needs... by kuleiana · · Score: 1

    Maybe he needs a better Vista from his new office.

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  33. Microsoft is no one-trick pony by westlake · · Score: 1
    Microsoft has a slight case of the sniffles - its revenues and profits still rising. The one-trick-ponies are in the ICU with double pneumonia.

    .
    "The test of time?"

    We are not so very far distant from the 30th year of MSDOS and Windows. Office 1 was released in 1990. The XBox in 2001.

    MSDOS and Windows began as a client OS.

    That Microsoft is strongly competitive in the server market leaves the geek with something more to explain.

  34. Is it just me... by rewt66 · · Score: 1

    Does anyone else think it's rather arrogant of Bill Gates to assume that he has been a catalyst twice?

    Once I'll give him. Microsoft actually made the PC something that most people could use (and afford). I don't think IBM was going to go there; in fact, they tried to stop it with the PS/2.

  35. Logo by vincentj7 · · Score: 1

    I wonder if Bill knows that his new logo is almost identical to the Codemasters logo?

  36. It's Paul Allen All Over Again by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

    Didn't Paul Allen do the same thing? We used to laugh about the folks who worked at his start-ups, pulling down good money to sit around and look busy.

  37. Steve Ballmer "I'll kill fucking bgc3" by $0.02 · · Score: 1

    Throws a chair.

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  38. No wonder it's being kept secret... by The+Real+Tachyon · · Score: 2, Funny

    They all run Linux and Macs at BGC3.

    Bill sits down to his new Linux/KDE4 desktop PC and thinks.."Free at last, free at last....." ;')

  39. B&M Gates Foundation.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Putting the aid in A.I.D.S.

  40. Not Quite by DesScorp · · Score: 1

    "There is no fundamental reason why a desk top PC is going to be unreliable. Poor design and quality control of the OS is the cause."

    You could make that argument about the Windows 3X-9X series, but not about DOS and the NT based operating systems. DOS was always pretty stable for me (DOS was certainly more stable than the graphical Apple OS's that were being sold at the time... and we don't equate Apple with bad software quality... why?), and while NT 4 was an improvement, Win2K and XP were very stable operating systems.

    One thing that no one really acknowledges is that even with the newer NT based systems, Windows isn't going to be quite as stable as, say, OS X, because the hardware available to Windows is almost unlimited, while Apple systems have very few devices to have stable drivers for. With such a high number of devices available, Microsoft had to rely on the manufacturers for drivers, and those drivers didn't always mesh well with the OS. This is why when you install a driver on XP or Vista, and it hasn't been vetted by Microsoft, you get a message that essentially tells you to install at your own risk.

    Once upon a time, my Linux boxes were far and away more stable than the 9X boxes I had. But if I've got good drivers on an XP box now, my Mac and my Linux box isn't any more stable or reliable.

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    1. Re:Not Quite by klubar · · Score: 1

      It's not surprisign that software for embedded devices is much more reliabile. The manufacturers control the hardware, software and all the interfaces. It's much easier to quality control and handle and wierdness of the device. General purpose software with arbitary (and often questionalble) hardware is much harder.

  41. what vision? by Tom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Gates' personal pursuit of breakthrough ideas in science and technology.

    Good that he finally gets started on some. Seriously, the guy is great in stealing and rebranding other ideas as his own, but that's it. I've yet to hear of even one original idea by Bill Gates.

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    1. Re:what vision? by mqduck · · Score: 1

      Clippy!

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    2. Re:what vision? by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 1

      End of spam in 2006, bitches!
      His own original idea.

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  42. Do you wish to start up a new company... by mcneely.mike · · Score: 1

    ...that will not infringe on the PgUp/PgDwn patent?

    Allow / Deny

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  43. It will be a suicide Turtleneck ... by Jazz-Masta · · Score: 1

    and damn stylish at that.

  44. When an OS crashes... by olddotter · · Score: 1

    It is a FIRM belief of mine that when an OS crashes it is the fault of the OS, period. If an application fails then it is the fault of the App developers, but if the app causes the OS to crash then that is a problem with the OS. Your OS should only crash when there is a hardware problem. Anything else that causes the OS to crash is a problem in the OS.