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Discuss the US Presidential Election & the Economy

A number of folks have been submitting topics that indicate that they want to have a serious discussion on the issues surrounding this election. Since we're under a week now, I've decided to run a series of discussion stories to give you guys a place to discuss the issue. So here's the first one: The Economy. It's the biggest topic these days, eclipsing even war as the most important issue to most Americans. But how will that affect your choice next week? And why?

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  1. Oh, Is there an election going on? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hadn't noticed

    1. Re:Oh, Is there an election going on? by Shakrai · · Score: 1, Funny

      I hadn't noticed

      So I take it you are going to write-in Cowboyneal? ;)

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    2. Re:Oh, Is there an election going on? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hadn't noticed

      Why do you hate America?

  2. is obama a marxist? by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I read in a very important email that Obama may be a crypto-marxist and may have converted to judaism during his teenage years :~( When this is revealed it will blow the lid off of civilization.

  3. Re:any evidence by Lord_Frederick · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone that has a clue how the economy works is smart enough to not be in politics.

  4. Re:Thank you, Taco by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

    Agreed. Now we just need someone to act as a mediator over all the comments. That way we won't have to sift through all sorts of useless drivel. Any volunteers?

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  5. Only one question to ask yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you going to vote for Barack Obama or are you a racist?

    1. Re:Only one question to ask yourself by qw0ntum · · Score: 5, Funny

      Are you going to vote for John McCain or are you a Marxist?

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  6. A troll's dream by Ironchew · · Score: 1, Funny

    Where no question is too loaded, and where every comment is on topic.
    Except for this one.

  7. flint knapping by plopez · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm learning to flint knap so that I will have the skills I need to make it in the new economy. I am also working on learning how to build an atlatl.

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  8. Re:any evidence by cvd6262 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Saw this on a bumper sticker:

    We're screwed: 2008.

    I couldn't summarize my feelings any better.

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  9. Re:Thank you, Taco by yali · · Score: 5, Funny

    CmdrTaco: "have a serious discussion on the issues surrounding this election"

    You must be new here.

  10. Re:Thank you, Taco by bepe86 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Whoooosh

  11. Re:any evidence by Eunuchswear · · Score: 4, Funny

    It'd probably be more effective if we knew the credentials of the economists they're talking to

    Well, in the case of McCain it seems to be (among others) Kevin Hassett, author of "Dow 36000: The New Strategy for Profiting from the Coming Rise in the Stock Market", published in 1999. http://econ4obama.blogspot.com/2008/06/other-list-mccains-economists.html

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  12. Why do you hate America? by JoeFromPhilly · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your favorite candidate is absolutely terrible and will completely destroy our country. If they are elected we'll all end up subsistence farming and living in tent cities. I can't believe you would vote for them. Why do you hate America?

  13. Re:any evidence by Corpuscavernosa · · Score: 5, Funny
    Dude, the DOW closed up 900 points yesterday. It's fixed man!

    I'm so happy I'm going to go get a second sub-prime mortgage!

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  14. Re:any evidence by xaositects · · Score: 2, Funny

    listen, you can't expect to wield supreme executive power, just cause someone threw an economic statistic at you!

  15. Re:any evidence by travdaddy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Like most politicians, the leading contenders don't have personal expertise in the field of finance so, no, they don't know a whole lot about how the economy works.

    Agreed. Just look at how much personal expertise politicians have in the field of technology to get a good idea of how much personal expertise politicians have in the field of finance. Then, try not to panic.

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  16. Re:Thank you, Taco by CrackerJackz · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll do it, I have mod points today!

    Oh wait ... crap.

  17. Re:Ridiculous by Fex303 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did Clinton actually do anything to make the internet revolution happen?

    I do have to point out that his Vice President did invent the internet.

  18. Re:Small Government by Bromskloss · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm a small government person.

    I don't see how your size matters here.

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  19. Redistribution of Wealth!!! by santiagoanders · · Score: 2, Funny

    Everybody wants redistribution of wealth! We just want different distributions (the large portion going to ourselves and those most like us). I will support a candidate that redistributes wealth.

    If we want to be fair, however, every American citizen deserves the same, right?
    So I also will support a candidate that will also redistribute:

    1. organs (not everybody has good kidneys!!)
    2. children (let everybody share the responsibility of shaping the future generation!)
    3. good looks (it's not fair that some people look more attractive than me. Plastic surgery and/or masks for all!)
    4. land (the only thing worth fighting for!)

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  20. That's why I'm voting against a planned economy by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 2, Funny

    No one knows how to bend the economy in certain directions, they just take stabs in the dark and hope for the best.

    And that is exactly why I'm voting against Obama and McCain. They're both running on an arrogant "I will fix the economy" platform. I'm voting for someone whose platform is more like, "I will try to stop the government from doing obvious harm to the economy, or if I can't do that, I'll at least veto Congress' attempts to further harm the economy." That's an honest and achievable goal.

    Of course, my goal of electing such people, probably isn't so achievable. ;) Most of my fellow Americans want a planned economy, since the Soviet system demonstrated such strength and utterly crushed America to finally end the cold war. I don't quite understand their argument, but that's what it is.

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  21. Re:Troll Wars Begun This Has by SimonGhent · · Score: 4, Funny

    BTW, I love how the moderators mod according to their political viewpoints, which is an obvious abuse of power. That's why politics don't belong here.

    BTW, I love how the moderators mod according to their Operating System bias, which is an obvious abuse of power. That's why discussions of Operating Systems don't belong here.

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  22. Re:hahaha by halivar · · Score: 2, Funny

    You in a maze of twisty passages, all alike. You come upon two level 5 presidential candidates.

    Now roll for initiative.

  23. Re:Ok..how about taxes? by It+doesn't+come+easy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I never thought I'd see a serious comment with "IRS" and "efficiency" used in the same sentence. I must have accidentally slipped into an alternate universe. Damn hidden wormholes...

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  24. Re:Ok..how about taxes? by Dishevel · · Score: 5, Funny

    My parents had no money. I am scraping by ok with a salary that anywhere but California would be OK. Under Mr. Obama I would get more money and I would have to change nothing. That is not what I want. I would rather work toward my own success than have those who have done better than me be forced to make me their equal without me having to do the work. Nothing good will come of that.

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  25. Re:Ok..how about taxes? by BlackCobra43 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The combination of your comment and signature is (uninentionnally?) hilarious.

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  26. Re:any evidence by Snocone · · Score: 2, Funny

    it would be beneficial to those reading your post to know who the hell you are referring to.

    No, it would not, because the concerns have been resolved.

    it also helps to put in a link to lend credence to your claims

    Well, let's see here. There's a few possible responses that spring to mind.

    1) Exactly what difference does it make to me if the bottom feeders infesting this place think I've got "credence" or not? None worth any effort that I can see.

    2) Those who are too stupid to figure out how to use this new "Google" thing on their own -- y'know, I'm perfectly cool with that kind of moron questioning my "credence". Shows their level of insight and intelligence to everybody nicely.

    3) "Claims"? CLAIMS? You mean, you cretin, it even crossed your mind for a MOMENT that Canada is not actually the most fantastic country in the world in every conceivable way, and specifically in the ways I mention!?!?!

    Yeah, we'll go with 3) for now. Even though it is just slightly into the workday here so it's stretching our non-bottom-feederness a tad. That's it, though, talk amongst yourselves now.

    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081009/canadian_banks_081009/20081009?hub=TopStories

  27. Re:Ok..how about taxes? by EggyToast · · Score: 2, Funny
    (3) I don't consider water under MY ground to be public property. *I* was the one who spent $5000 to drill a well into the ground and tap the reservoir, therefore the well belongs to me.

    But there's drainage, you see. Think of it this way. If you have a milkshake...

  28. Re:Ok..how about taxes? by rcuhljr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe it's just the mention of hidden wormholes, but I read that as "Did you not see all of our goatses"

  29. Re:any evidence by roystgnr · · Score: 2, Funny

    It may stop the whole world's economy on its tracks and send billions of people to unemployment and starvation, resulting in worldwide barbarism and war.

    Yeah, that's what I've been hearing, from people who wanted to take a trillion tax dollars to hand to failed bankers so that they would be able to loan the money back to us without non-failed bankers getting in the way. So did you just fall for their line, or are you selling something too?

  30. Re:any evidence by liquidsin · · Score: 2, Funny

    makes me wish (even more) that ron paul had gotten the nod...

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  31. Re:hahaha by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 2, Funny

    13. I go first? Great.

    I put on my robe and wizard hat.

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  32. Re:Ok..how about taxes? by Timmmm · · Score: 2, Funny

    "instead of paying $1.00 for a McDonalds hamburger, I pay $1.20. I don't think that's going to kill me"

    A McDonald's hamburger? I think it will!

  33. Re:Ok..how about taxes? by Lost+Engineer · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's a marginal thing, but people really do work less when you tax them more. It's just a fact so let's not argue about it on /.