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Should the United States' New CTO Really Be a CIO?

CurtMonash writes "Barack Obama promised to appoint the United States' first Chief Technology Officer. Naturally, the blogosphere is full of discussion as to who that should be. I favor American Management Systems founder and former IRS Commissioner Charles Rossotti. Richard Koman thinks it should be one of the better state CTOs. John Doerr, going in a different direction, thinks it should be his partner Bill Joy. We can bandy names back and forth all month, but first a more fundamental question needs to be answered: What do we need most — a get-things-done CIO (Chief Information Officer), or a more visionary true CTO? I think it's a CIO, and based on his campaign statements it appears Obama agrees. Management of government IT is a huge, generally unsolved problem, and we need somebody deeply experienced to have a fighting chance. Of course, that doesn't preclude recruiting a visionary CTO in addition, but the highest priority is a CIO. What do you think?"

243 comments

  1. Linus Torvaldes by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Only Linus can do it. He's a visionary, he has good project managements skills, and he's not afraid to tell it like it is. Everyone else will be a corporate shill more interested in funneling money back to their own products.

    We need Linux and we need Linux.

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    1. Re:Linus Torvaldes by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Everyone else will be a corporate shill more interested in funneling money back to their own products.

      Which is exactly the kind of person who will be appointed. You don't really buy the 'new politics' crap do you? Lobbyists and high level corporate officers will remain the pool from which most appointments are drawn.

      Linus doesn't line anyone's pockets in Washington.

    2. Re:Linus Torvaldes by itsthebin · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think it should be Bill Gates :)

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    3. Re:Linus Torvaldes by TheSpoom · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's like your comment goes so far into flamebait that it overflows and turns into insightful.

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    4. Re:Linus Torvaldes by xant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nobody lined Obama's pockets except me and thirty million of my fellow Americans, 25 bucks at a time. Can't you cynics keep it to a dull roar for even the two months it'll take to get him sworn in? Wait and see what happens.

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    5. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's like your comment goes so far into flamebait that it overflows and turns into insightful.

      Can you cause the reader to execute arbitrary code that way?

    6. Re:Linus Torvaldes by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, actually, we don't know that for sure. Obama's web donations campaign turned off ther fraud check name validation on the credit cards which meant that not only were they were perfectly happy accepting a donation on a credit card owned by Joe Six Pack under the name Joe Q Public, they went through specific trouble to make it possible.

      You may believe the hype, you might even be wanting to perpetuate it. But there are simple facts about obama or his campaign team that don't completely hold water. And this isn't even starting to go into the business of the foreign donations and all. If you cared to know anything about that, you can easily do a google search and find stories on them. Simply look for "Obama turned off credit card fraud detections" and "foreigners donating to Obama"

      BTW, this claim that he raised most of his money from private contributors isn't an accurate representation when he didn't verify who was sending him money. It simply can't be as one report found out, with the credit card fraud stuff disabled, he was able to donate $20- ten times in different names all of which contained the letters Barack Obama spelled in different ways. It will take years for the FEC to sort that out but it shows a picture that people should at least be questioning.

      Claiming that no pac or corporate or foreign money was donated simply because you stopped checking where the source of the money came from does not make it true. In fact, I'm not sure how you can even make the claim after you stopped checking where the money was coming from.

    7. Re:Linus Torvaldes by lysergic.acid · · Score: 1

      well, according to BusinessWeek, some "Washington Insiders" think Steve Ballmer might be in the running for CIO.

      i would be seriously disturbed if Ballmer is really being considered for CIO. corporate interests are rarely aligned with public interest, and Microsoft in particular has a long history of disreputable policies & actions. besides, Microsoft already has enough political sway in Washington.

      i'd prefer that the position was given to someone outside of the commercial/corporate sector who wouldn't pose a conflict of interest. RMS, Vint Cerf, Tim Berners-Lee, Lawrence Lessig would all make ideal candidates. they don't have any corporate-ties, are reputable authorities on IT, and all have demonstrated that they put public interest ahead of commercial interests. RMS and Lawrence Lessig in particular are both outspoken critics of the current establishment. if Obama really wants change, then he needs to appoint iconoclasts & idealists who are willing to challenge existing policies and attitudes.

      appointing people like Ballmer or Bezos would just be replacing old corporate pupppets with new ones. unless being rich is the primary requirement for CIO, neither of them are qualified for such an important political office.

    8. Re:Linus Torvaldes by redcleric · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I think it should be Al Gore, since he invented the internet. LOL

    9. Re:Linus Torvaldes by des09 · · Score: 1

      +1 insightful, from a lifelong liberal, and staunch Obama fan. IF he did turn off fraud detection (too lazy to check your sources on a Saturday morning) then thats a long way from transparency. Brilliant, but a bit sly.

      On the other hand, if your chief concern is that a big interest group , say oil, funneled a large amount to his campaign, and is going to pull strings on it, they left him a pretty big loophole, "What?, you are Joe Q Public, and you ran 200,000 transactions? well, as long as you realize I never wanted that money and wouldn't have accepted it had I known it was coming from you. I think you can find the door on your way own."

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    10. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No! we can not,we know what will happen.

    11. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Jimmy_B · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your sources show that it was possible to donate to Obama anonymously, and that some people probably did so. That's not a problem, because anonymous donations can't buy influence; the problem is when someone donates tons of money and the candidate returns the favor.

      The thing you mention about fraud detection sounds like a technicality that would have been decided by the bank or by a low-ranking system administrator, not by Obama himself. And you didn't provide any sources.

      These days, it seems like conservatives are so desperate for dirt that they'll latch onto anything, even if it's completely artificial. Bush was corrupt, but saying "Democrats are corrupt too!" isn't a defense, isn't true, and isn't very mature.

    12. Re:Linus Torvaldes by GuyverDH · · Score: 1

      Oh great, an entirely democratic 2/3rds of the government - we'll end up with 99% tax rate and have 70 mile government sponsored lunch lines in every town....

      Not that a corporate-whoring all republican government would be any better...

      End bi-partisanship - ban political parties altogether, and hold politicians fiscally responsible for overspending - ban corporate entities from having a voice in the government...

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    13. Re:Linus Torvaldes by bendodge · · Score: 2, Informative

      Although it'd be nice to believe that a socialist poltician got his money from the masses, it's not true. Obama's pockets were lined by George Soros's MoveOn.org, . Do some searches like 'obama campaign finance fraud' and 'obama foreign donations'.

      It turns out that half of Obama's haul in 2008 has come in contributions of $200 dollars or less. These small donations do not require public disclosure under FEC guidelines, and the Obama campaign refuses to make public its list of contributors. Obama earlier announced he'd accept public financing if the GOP nominee did the same (and then, of course, broke his pledge in June after realizing he'd far surpass previous fundraising records). So there's a pattern. By keeping his donor list secret now, the Illinois senator has heightened speculation of financial impropriety. Not only can Obama's inside operatives organize massive bundling operations outside the law, there are no safeguards against the new "fat cat" contributors who bundle their own cash. Hillary Clinton's Norman Hsu scandal from late-2007 points to the kind of abuses possible under the current regime. A more serious breach of faith may be taking place right now in the Obama camp.

      As Scott Mirengoff at Powerline reported on Thursday, the Obama campaign refuses to screen credit card contributions for potential fraudulent transactions, and thus any individual could make unlimited contributions using infinite aliases.
      http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obamas-fundraising-fraud

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    14. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Anpheus · · Score: 1

      Ban political parties? That sounds awful like restricting freedom of speech and assembly.

      Hold politicians responsible for overspending? We'd never have gotten out of... any war ever. We'd be too busy lynching our leaders.

      Ban corporate entities? You mean persons? Because trust me, it isn't that this big booming "MICROSOFT" logo drops down into Capitol Hill and starts telling people what to do. It's a suave lobbyist who knows who to talk to and has garnered at least a smidgen of trust from people in the capitol. You could do it too, if you cared to take the time.

      I do appreciate your straw man though! It was incredibly clever and original.

    15. Re:Linus Torvaldes by BoberFett · · Score: 1

      You don't have to ban parties. Just leave their names off the ballot. Why does the government have to bend to the will of private organizations and put the letter R or D or I next to the person's name on the ballot?

      The only reason to do so is to allow uninformed voters easily vote a straight ticket thereby perpetuating the current parties stranglehold on government. Hell, some ballots have a single box you can fill in to vote a straight ticket, you don't even have to go to the trouble of marking each candidate.

    16. Re:Linus Torvaldes by ukemike · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Although it'd be nice to believe that a socialist poltician got his money from the masses, it's not true. Obama's pockets were lined by George Soros's MoveOn.org, . Do some searches like 'obama campaign finance fraud' and 'obama foreign donations'.

      Boy there are sooo many things wrong with this statement.

      First, though I would like it if Obama really was a socialist he isn't. He isn't even close. Anyone who believes that a progressive income tax is socialism has no understanding of what socialism is.

      Next, George Soros is a dyed in the wool capitalist. He would not support a real socialist candidate.

      Next, Move On does not belong to George Soros. It is controlled by a small cabal of people that could be characterized as "progressive democrats." What is special about MoveOn, is that they were really the first organization that really leveraged some effective techniques for on-line organizing and on-line fund raising. They were in the right position to tap into the very deep current of disgust at the Bush policies. They are also not very democratically controlled, and often make dumb tactical mistakes.

      Last, drinking the Fox news cool-aid that typically leads to the kinds of irrational thinking displayed above, also causes bigotry, irrational fears, and eventually permanent brain damage. You really ought to lay off that stuff and pick a safer recreational drug like sniffing gasoline or mainlining speedballs.

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    17. Re:Linus Torvaldes by GuyverDH · · Score: 1

      Ugh - I'm not typing / thinking straight... 4 hours sleep in the last week....

      Just meant abolish the two party system - make candidates run standalone - with whoever gets behind them - the people who would be behind a candidate might change every election based on what that individual stands for - not what the *party* stands for (or in many cases - doesn't stand for).

      As to corporations - while treated like an entity (I won't say person) for tax purposes, they should not be allowed to have a greater voice in congress than the local bum off the street. That means banning corporate lobbying and donations.

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    18. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing in your comment denies that "Obama's pockets were lined by [...] MoveOn.org", which was GP's main point.

    19. Re:Linus Torvaldes by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 1

      I think instead of Linus Torvalds, the position should instead go to Bill Gates\n\nint main(int argc, char**argv) { extern struct room** parents_basement; extern struct shower*; extern struct girlfriend_s*; parents_basement->leave->now(); shower->now(SHAMPOO | BRUSH_TEETH); gf = girlfriend_s.get(GF_DOESNT_PLAY_WARCRAFT); return 0; }

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    20. Re:Linus Torvaldes by ultranova · · Score: 1

      But there are simple facts about obama or his campaign team that don't completely hold water.

      Well, as long as he doesn't laugh while sending people to be executed, he'll still be an improvement.

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    21. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Anpheus · · Score: 1

      I see, but what about individuals in the corporation?

      No matter what you do, there will be loopholes.

    22. Re:Linus Torvaldes by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Well, the concern isn't really just with big interest groups which doesn't have the big loophole.

      The concern is that someone could intentionally promote Obama or any candidate knowing that it serves their interest. Take a country like Iran or Russia, What if they donated under assumed names in order to stop McCain from being president knowing that McCain's hard line stance of foreign policy would cause problems for their future wprld positions.

      Now, about the special interest groups. This hole is pretty much nonexistent if your willing to use one tenth the skepticism that people have thrown at some of Bush's legitimate politicies and actions. Forget about the actual questionable ones. Anyways, if I. as a special interest group, said Hey Obama, I need to get some money to you but I know it might hurt your campaign, and then Obama or one of his staffers decided that if we did X, that person could donate all he wanted under assumed names and no one would be the wiser. So knowing that I would be breaking the law in either case, bribing a politician or donating contributions in someone elses name, I decided to flip one of two million his way so that I can remain anonymouse and he would know who butters who's bread.

      Now, I'm not saying that that happened. But the possability is certainly there. Especially when the default credit card transaction scheme is to enable the fraud protections and someone had to disable it on purpose through a deliberate act. The question is there and we have to wonder why it was done and what the ramifications of doing it led to. If it was anyone else who did this, the question would have already been asked and waiting for an answer.

      As for the sources, there are tons of sources which is why I suggested a google search instead of citing one specific source. It seems that whenever someone cites a source that says somethign detrimental to obama, that people ignore it because it is a biased site or some other screwed up reasoning. I understand that you are too busy to mess with it right now but I encourage you to make an effort and look at some of the different sites talking about the stuff.

      I'm not being partisan in making this statement, or at least that isn't my intent. I'm just not sure how someone can say that no special interest groups donated when the means for tracking has been disabled. It could also be that the special interest groups donated with Obama's knowlesge because they knew that McCain would have been detrimental to his cause. The quid pro quo doesn't have to be something Obama is going to ultimately do, it could be something that McCain or Clinton or any number of the other candidate won't be able to do now. Either way, the secrecy of it should be just as much of a concern without regard of who the candidate is.

    23. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Nobody lined Obama's pockets except me and thirty million of my fellow Americans, 25 bucks at a time

      Nevertheless, the end result is that Obama's top contributers constitute such small interests as:

      University of California $909,283
      Goldman Sachs $874,207
      Harvard University $717,230
      Microsoft Corp $714,108
      Google Inc $701,099
      JPMorgan Chase & Co $581,460
      Citigroup Inc $581,216
      National Amusements Inc $543,859
      Time Warner $508,148
      Sidley Austin LLP $492,445
      Stanford University $481,199
      Skadden, Arps et al $473,424
      Wilmerhale Llp $466,679
      UBS AG $454,795
      Latham & Watkins $426,924
      Columbia University $426,516
      Morgan Stanley $425,102
      IBM Corp $415,196
      University of Chicago $414,555
      US Government $400,819

      www.opensecrets.org/pres08/

    24. Re:Linus Torvaldes by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Your sources show that it was possible to donate to Obama anonymously, and that some people probably did so. That's not a problem, because anonymous donations can't buy influence; the problem is when someone donates tons of money and the candidate returns the favor.

      Anaymouse sources definately can buy influence. Suppose the National kill all puppies organization supported obama because of his abortion policies. Now, a group like that, fictional or not, would probably be detrimental to Obama's chances of winning if it was publicaly know they donated and supported him. But lets say they did because of McCain's anti-abortion stand. Shouldn't we have the right to know who is supporting who? But somethign else your forgeting is the conspiracy angle. Supose in one of Obama's foreign trips, he said, hey, I can make this policy if I'm elected but I need some donations. Then the leader of whatever foreign country, lets say germany says, we can get 2 million dollars to you for that trade policy but American law say we can't donate it to you. Then some staffer says somethign like, if we turn of the fraud validation for the online creditcard processing, you can make donations up to this limit under any name. Then that country said, you will have at least X donated by Y date. Now imagine this wasn't a foreign country and was a special interest group. The possability is there.

      The thing you mention about fraud detection sounds like a technicality that would have been decided by the bank or by a low-ranking system administrator, not by Obama himself. And you didn't provide any sources.

      Whoever programs their site and oversees the credit card systems would have to of been in on the decision. This isn't someone forgetting to add a piece of code or something. It is the deliberate decision of certain acts that effect the abilities of chargeback liability and so on. Whoever was in charge of their finances would have known about it even if Obama didn't. There won't be some low level employee in charge of collecting 600 and some billion dollars in contributions that have to be veted and explained to the FEC.

      Although, I do admit that it is possible that Obama had no clue about it and it was the behind the scenes handlers of the campaign.

      These days, it seems like conservatives are so desperate for dirt that they'll latch onto anything, even if it's completely artificial. Bush was corrupt, but saying "Democrats are corrupt too!" isn't a defense, isn't true, and isn't very mature.

      If you would apply one tenth of the scrutiny that you would against something bush did that was legitimate, you would be asking questions too. I'm not about to say that Obama is a crook and that isn't what I said at all. I said that you can't make the claim that no special interest groups donated when you didn't track your donations. It is because of this turning off the ability to validate names and adresses with online donations that we should not be automatically agreeing with them when they make that claim.

    25. Re:Linus Torvaldes by techno-vampire · · Score: 1
      These days, it seems like conservatives are so desperate for dirt that they'll latch onto anything, even if it's completely artificial.

      And you think that liberals weren't so desperate to explain why they lost two elections in a row to Bush that they didn't make up all kinds of absurd conspiracies (Such as trying to blame the butterfly ballots on his brother instead of the Democrats who designed and approved them.) to make it look like they were cheated? Face it, Democrat fanboi, the shoe's on the other foot now, and you're going to be spending a lot of your time justifying BO's dishonesty. Among other things, how can you believe him after he reneged on his promise to accept public funding? The only reason BO was able to outspend John McCain is because unlike BO, McCain kept his promise.

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    26. Re:Linus Torvaldes by RustinHWright · · Score: 1

      I think it should be Bill Gates :)

      And his first responsibility will be to personally do diagnostics on all front line sensor systems in Falluja and Afghani areas most contested by the Taliban.

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    27. Re:Linus Torvaldes by techno-vampire · · Score: 1
      the Obama campaign refuses to make public its list of contributors.

      If a Republican had done that, there'd be calls for impeachment. Of course, BO is a Democrat, and will have both houses of Congress on his side, so that's not going to happen. Mind you, I don't think it should, but even if there were proof that he'd violated the Campaign Financing laws he'd skate because he has his party marching in lock-step behind him.

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    28. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      everyone is corrupt, even if its in their own subtle ways.

    29. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Your argument logically contradicts itself. The point of a PAC or lobbyist donating money is to influence the candidate. if, as you claim, the sources are not checked, then it would be impossible for the candidate to know or verify that a PAC xyz or lobbyist abc... therefore it would be hard to exercise influence over them.

      e.g. If I wanted to bribe obama, I could offer him $100k to do what I wanted... however, with source checking turned off, if i give $100k as 1,000 $100 donations by different unchecked sources, Obama could (and likely would) simply deny knowledge of my donation and my influence is lost.

      Secondly, you assume that corporations or other sources would be willing to make hundreds or thousands of small donations... as much as I'd like to believe there are evil influences, I think the laziness of people trumps their evil... you'd have to show me some proof for me to believe some evil corporate type (or their paid lackey) sat around to give thousands of online donations.

    30. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Jimmy_B · · Score: 5, Informative

      I did a little research, and figured out the real reason for not doing fraud-checking on donations. It seems that, when criminals steal a credit card, they first test it by making a small donation to a charity, to find out whether or not the card works, before they start using it to buy stuff. This has been going on since long before the presidential race started, affects all charities, and is well known. If the credit card company rejects the test transaction, then the thief throws out that card and tries again with a different one. On the other hand, if the test transaction goes through but the next one gets flagged, then the bank finds out what address the thief tried to have stuff mailed to. What probably happened is that someone at the bank noticed that people were testing stolen cards by donating to the Obama campaign, and decided that it was best to always let the donation go through, but then apply extra scrutiny to the next transaction on that card. The Obama campaign doesn't care (they get a chargeback and no money either way), but the bank saves a lot of money that way.

    31. Re:Linus Torvaldes by TheSpoom · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dear moderator,

      My comment was a joke, see?

      I enjoy haikus.

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    32. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Cowmonaut · · Score: 1

      Actually I'm more than willing to bet Democrats are corrupt as well. The major difference I see between R and D is that the majority of R's lean on the creationist side. They won't do anything to better their fellow man because well the world is going to end soon anyways and then they go on a tangent about the Rapture.

      No disrespect intended to anyone that does believe that, but I find it first rude that one would just treat others like crap for a reason like that. Second, you seem to be missing a major point of your religion if you behave that way. If you want to have a debate about that, we'll go somewhere and I'll respond to you until you start a flame war.

      Anyways, democrats at the very least pay lip service to the "everyone should be equal" thing and that lip service actually tends to help make it happen in some cases.

      As always there are exceptions, and circumstances, etc, etc. Point is, don't assume that because it's not Republican it's not corrupt.

    33. Re:Linus Torvaldes by techno-vampire · · Score: 1
      Obama could (and likely would) simply deny knowledge of my donation and my influence is lost.

      Just because a politician publicly denies any knowledge of a donation doesn't mean he or she doesn't know exactly where it came from and what quid pro quo is expected in return. If this was done with BO's knowledge and consent, you can bet that he'll deny knowing about it and that he'll give the donors exactly what they paid for.

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    34. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Jimmy_B · · Score: 1

      See what you just did? You said

      Actually I'm more than willing to bet Democrats are corrupt as well.

      Then you talked about the Republicans for a while. Then you said

      Point is, don't assume that because it's not Republican it's not corrupt.

      Essentially, your thinking (and it's disappointingly common) goes like this:

      • I don't know whether or not Democrats are corrupt
      • I do know that many politicians, including some prominent Republicans, are corrupt
      • Therefore, I should not give any politician the benefit of the doubt

      Reasonable so far, but then there's the implied next step:

      • Therefore, Democrats are probably corrupt, since they are politicians.
      • Since both Democrats and Republicans are corrupt, corruption is not a reason to favor one over the other

      See the problem? People make the jump from "Democrats could be be corrupt" to "Democrats are corrupt" with little or no evidence. Political ads encourage this by pointing out oddities with perfectly ordinary explanations, and saying "you should investigate this", knowing quite well that normal people don't have time for that kind of investigation, but that they'll fill in the gaps according to their biases.

      Basically, having lost an argument, the goal is to convince the public that the argument is still on-going and was never resolved. You can't win by arguing that the Republican party isn't more corrupt, so argue that no one knows which party is more corrupt. You can't win by arguing that global warming isn't man-made, so argue that no one knows whether global warming is man-made. It is one of Karl Rove's most clever and insidious tricks, but we aren't buying it anymore. Sorry.

    35. Re:Linus Torvaldes by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Lol.. So let me see if I understand this correctly.

      Criminals are likely to donate to Obama's presidential campaign so Obama being the super clean cut law biding american that he is turned up the fraud protections just so that banks acting independent of each other could track down criminals.

      Ok, I'll give that far fetched excuse a go, so lets see the amount of donations that were charged back because of criminal actions, lets see the number of people found and charged because of it and that excuse still doesn't answer the question of people who weren't supposed to donate having the ability to as well as the ability to hide donations.

      I mean even if the Obama campaign was attempting to be a super cop, we would have heard of people making the claims by now that their credit cards had charges on it going to obama's campaign that they didn't make. The user has to make the complaint befor ethe banks know where the problem is and that would be pretty scary to all the sudden see unauthorized charges on your bank statements from someone who went back on their promise to use public financing. And that is even being willing to ignore the fact that without the fraud warnings, the credit card thieves are going to get caught at the next place regardless if the fraud alert stuff is turned on. It's not like the IPs aren't logged when someone makes a credit card order. It's not like the addresses where something was shipped isn't kept and given when a charge back happens.

      So lets say that was just a cover story, what now? I mean ok' there is a grand scheme that is at least plausible enough for you to repeat it, what if that is just a cover for special interest groups to have the ability to hide their donations? What if it was just a cover for foreighn nations to funnel campaign money to Obama's campaign (with or without his knowledge)? What if it is just a cover story to hide the actual sources of the donations because the real source would have harmed him in some way? In other words, should this entire donation process be open and transparent just to avoid the type of wondering that can come from this? What if George Bush had disabled the fraud protections on his campaign contribution systems to allow anyone to use any credit card with any name and any address? After all, Bush has claimed to of done a few things of his own to help out law enforcement efforts. And it isn't like that if someone sneaks a credit card past a charity that they will forever go unnoticed. It's sort of a matter of it working or not and whether security measure stops a criminal from commiting a crime or not.

    36. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Jimmy_B · · Score: 4, Insightful

      See, now you're way off in tinfoil hat-land. I never said that Obama or his campaign did any of that; I said that the bank did. Your alternative theory, that Obama turned off fraud protection so that foreign donors could use his donation page to launder money, is absurd, mainly because that's a ridiculously inefficient and conspicuous way to launder money and the fraud protection wouldn't have stopped it anyways. I mean, come on; you think someone is going to create thousands of bank accounts so that he can donate $20 from each one, and that no one would notice thousands of bank accounts all receiving funds from a single source and sending them to the same destination, but that in order to do so he needed Obama to disable a system designed to prevent the use of stolen credit cards? You, my friend, have observed two dots, and concluded that they must be the eyes of a T-Rex. You should try connecting them instead.

    37. Re:Linus Torvaldes by dragonturtle69 · · Score: 1

      Well, I hope that I and the other cynics are quite wrong, that this will be a new book in American politics, not just a new chapter, and certainly not just a Bubba 2.0.

      With that said, the cynics are cynical due to real cause. He did not become mentioned as a potential presidential candidate, before being sworn in as a Federal Senator, because he is outside the mainstream of the DNC. He certainly was not a keynote speaker at the DNC's 2004 convention, while an Illinois state senator, because he is independent of the DNC. He was chosen and groomed for the current role.

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    38. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Hubbell · · Score: 1

      I'm an atheist republican, and can say that it's not a matter of not wanting to better their fellow man, it's a matter of bettering yourself, just as your fellow man should do FOR HIMSELF. Donating to charity voluntarily is great, but forced 'donation' via taxation to 'better' your less motivated fellow man in the form of handouts and entitlements is just plain fucked up and goes against the American Dream that Obama claims his plan would actually promote.

    39. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      we have no choice but to wait and see.

      however, i suggest you take an economics class. obama's election is a sunk cost - money already spent. the key considerations are marginal benefit - and given that the clintons have pocketed about $120 million since leaving office... your $20 doesn't mean jack.

      can you pay obama $500k to speak for an hour after his term is over?

      nope? who are you, again? oh, nobody.

      you can think obama is different, but he raised $650 million and admitted to under paying and over working his staff. he had plenty of money, but he decided keeping it for himself was better than paying a fair wage with fair working hours.

      how were his actions different? they weren't. just his talk.

      talk doesn't impress me.

      and no, i'm not a republican. bush was the worst president ever - by a factor of 5.

      i dislike politicians in general as the successful ones are, by definition, sociopathic liars. iow, it is *impossible* to get elected and tell the truth or lie very badly.

      obama is an excellent liar... even an inspiring liar... but still a liar. you'd have to believe all his campaign promises to believe he isn't a liar - and he claimed he would pay for government as we go. that means no deficit. do you believe it?

      what i don't know is where the lies end and the truth begins - and nobody will know that until he actually does things as president.

      i hope he moves beyond under paying and over working his employees, though. that's politics as usual.

    40. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is a socialist?

    41. Re:Linus Torvaldes by bendodge · · Score: 1

      Thank you.

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    42. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Frankie70 · · Score: 1

      Nobody lined Obama's pockets except me and thirty million of my fellow Americans, 25 bucks at a time.

      That's rubbish. Obama's campaign always said 90% of Obama's donors are small donors.
      They never said 90% of Obama's money came from small donors. There is a subtle distinction.
      Check the actual figures - around 50% of Obama's money came from big donors just like every other politician.

    43. Re:Linus Torvaldes by des09 · · Score: 1

      Yup, point taken, and a lot of interesting reading there, some of it is a hair to the right of Occam's razor, but overall, it adds up. Who knows? maybe Soros did buy himself a president. He probably got a better deal than the Saudis did on theirs.

        With or without Quid-pro-quo, its an abuse of the system to be able to affect the outcome by throwing money at the game. Thats just my opinion, your opinion, and a possible interpretation of McCain's words and actions this election. Obama doesn't see it the same way.

      Pity campaign finance reform is such a loser issue.

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    44. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll field that.

      Let's start by clearing up what capitalism is. When Thomas Hodgskin coined the term in the 19th century, he used it for a very precise meaning, which has been obscured, often quite deliberately, since then to add in various extraneous concepts such as free markets, contracts, etc., which are not exclusively a part of capitalism.
      When I say capitalism, I mean the leveraging of capital to exploit resources and labour for the purpose of generating profit. Period. If you have no employees, and are not receiving profits from a resource (rent, for example) you are not a "capitalist" for the purposes of this post.

      Long ago, people noticed a problem with kings. Namely that while things worked quite well with a good king, good kings were so incredibly scarce that some doubted they ever existed. The nature of having power over others tended to corrupt them, and what's more, they represented a single point of failure. If your king makes a bad decision, there's no stopping it. If he goes off his rocker, the whole country will pay dearly before it's done.
      The solution turned out to be democracy - spreading the control of things out to the people directly affected by that control. Monarchists said it could never work, and that the whole thing would be bound to fail quickly without a strong leader to hold everything together, but they turned out to be wrong.

      Yet, some people noticed that while we had rid ourselves of this faulty and error-prone system in the political sphere, we were still running our economic sphere as a vast set of mini-fiefdoms, each run in a hierarchical manner, and each prone to the same problems. Some said that the competition between them would weed out the bad leaders, but it mostly only weeded out the incompetent ones, while the corrupt, vicious, and well-connected could thrive in despite even fairly significant levels of incompetence, just as happened in the political sphere.

      The solution these people saw would be to democratize the workplace. But there was a major problem standing in the way - the workplace was owned by the capitalists already. Much like the kings of old, they were on top and fully in control, and they were not about to step aside politely. There could be no democracy in the workplace until some way was found for the people to take control of their work.

      There arose two schools of thought as to how to reach the democratic workplace ideal that was now called socialism.
      On the one hand, you have the state socialists. These people said "You can't get the workplace away from the capitalists without force, and hey, government had a lot of power to engage in force! It's currently serving the capitalists, but if we gain hold of the government, our representatives can take the means of production away from the capitalists, and give it to the people who actually do the work!"
      The first part of that plan usually works out fine -- take control of the government, then use it to seize or buy the property of the capitalists. The problem comes in the last step -- the government is quickly occupied by the kind of people who will figure out any excuse to not give all that property (and hence power) away. This is why Lenin disbanded the soviets, because the soviets wanted democratic control over things, and Lenin wanted a sort of Leninocratic control. :)

      The second school of thought is called anarchism. It says that government cannot be trusted and will always be the tool with which the powerful rob the weak, and shuffling the faces just lets you pick your victimizer.
      The anarchist methods of getting to socialism are varied and you can pick from multiple schools of thought -- the Syndicalists generally prefer directly seizing the workplace via union action (and their early successes are why unions in the US have been defanged and turned into nice, controllable bureacracies) while the mutualists prefer building a separate "shadow" economy tha

    45. Re:Linus Torvaldes by afxgrin · · Score: 1

      "BTW, this claim that he raised most of his money from private contributors isn't an accurate representation when he didn't verify who was sending him money. It simply can't be as one report found out, with the credit card fraud stuff disabled, he was able to donate $20- ten times in different names all of which contained the letters Barack Obama spelled in different ways. It will take years for the FEC to sort that out but it shows a picture that people should at least be questioning."

      So if someone looks into this, and discovers that you're full of shit, what comment will you respond with to these allegations? Who's got the scoop on this information? Come on 'sumdumass' - hook us up.

    46. Re:Linus Torvaldes by innerweb · · Score: 1

      I think it should be Al Gore, since he invented the internet. LOL

      As much as this demonstrates the poster's ignorance on the subject (or great sense of humor), Al Gore would actually make a great choice. He has demonstrated his ability to work in a political environment, a strong understanding of technology, a firm grasp of current issues and a strong sense of "do the right thing". Though not perfect (nobody is), he has demonstrated many qualities we would like and many qualities that would be required by Washington for the position. And he showers, shaves and dresses well.

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    47. Re:Linus Torvaldes by GuyverDH · · Score: 1

      Individuals within the corporations would not be able to speak on behalf of the corporations, only on behalf of themselves.

      "Conflict of interest" would apply....

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    48. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Anpheus · · Score: 1

      So basically, you're going to create a convoluted system of ethics rules that would be self-regulated and self-imposed and with the only way to determine guilt being a judgment of motive?

      Either everyone becomes guilty or no one becomes guilty and the system still ends up sucking.

    49. Re:Linus Torvaldes by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Actually no. It wasn't the banks who did it. The banks would have had to turn off the the information on a per card basis not on an entire processing application. What happened was that someone in control of the website donations configured the application suite that processed the credit cards to not verify the name and address of the holder that is transmitted with the Card validation information with what is was reported as the name and address when the donation was made.

      In order to turn the verification information off, it would need to be turned off for every card that used the system and it wouldn't have shown up on other systems either. Most modern processing systems won't even process the transaction if the information isn't reported unless the check is turned off completely.

      Now, as for putting the dots together, I'm not sure how you jumped from blaming someone in the Obama campaign to some convoluted scheme concocted by the banks. Frankly it doesn't matter and it doesn't surprise me seeing how everyone has been falling over themselves to apologize for Barak's errors and short comings. Don't worry, you can still claim he himself had no idea.

    50. Re:Linus Torvaldes by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      So if someone looks into this, and discovers that you're full of shit, what comment will you respond with to these allegations? Who's got the scoop on this information? Come on 'sumdumass' - hook us up.

      I suggest you do the google search for the terms I mentioned in my other post in this thread yourself. These aren't my claims, they are claims of people who checked it out. One of the results will have all the details you need to verify it. If you are too lazy or stupid to do that, then you deserve what you get in life. The information is there for you and it is up to you to find out for yourself.

      I have found a long time ago that when you post links that spell everything out in one little nice and neat package that someone attempts to discredit it based on punctuation, the site is supposedly biased or anything other then the content. The information I mentioned is availible at a number of sites and you can chose whichever one you like before automagically disqualifying it because of some unrelated catch.

    51. Re:Linus Torvaldes by GuyverDH · · Score: 1

      And that's different than what we have today how? At least it would prevent corporate centrism...

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    52. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Nynaeve · · Score: 1

      I think it should be Bill Gates :)

      It will be.

    53. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 1

      Well lets be perfectly honest - John McCain took public financing because he thought he couldn't get much money anyway and this way he could appear extra legit - same reason as Obama. Once Obama saw he could make more money through donations he promptly did an about face and broke the promise.

      What I don't understand is what is the point of accepting / not accepting public financing if your party can still raise money for you anyway?? Would all the people who would donate to you just donate to your party instead??

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    54. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 1

      I'm sure all the homeless out in the street are ecstatic at the possibilities your American Dream presents them.

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    55. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 1

      i.e. drudge report, new republic :D

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    56. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 1

      Nice to see someone else who knows all the different varieties...

      If anyone is interested, all the different favours of socialism where on display on the republican side of the Spanish civil war and they implemented their policies in the areas they controlled - its really fascinating to see so many different ideas on how to run society existing at the same time! (until 1938 when the commies wiped out all the opposing parties).

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    57. Re:Linus Torvaldes by techno-vampire · · Score: 1
      Once Obama saw he could make more money through donations he promptly did an about face and broke the promise.

      The question isn't why he broke his promise; we all know that. The question is, how can you trust him when he can't be bothered to wait until after the election to start breaking his campaign promises?

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    58. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 1

      If there was a version of Obama running against him that kept that promise I would have voted for him over this Obama... however the reality is that you had to make a choice between two people and he was in my opinion the better of the two. Its not that I support all of this campaign promises, or support all of his election tactics - you don't get to pick and chose aspects of a candidate, you have to go for the whole shebang.

      I know that this will not be the last broken promise - however I still think as presidents go he will be very good.

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    59. Re:Linus Torvaldes by techno-vampire · · Score: 1
      I know that this will not be the last broken promise - however I still think as presidents go he will be very good.

      So you prefer voting for a candidate who can't wait to start breaking promises instead of one who at least tried to keep his word. Well, that's what we now have for President. I hope you don't regret it later.

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    60. Re:Linus Torvaldes by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 1

      To me McCain's use of fear-mongering (especially by his VP) is much more frightening than Obama's broken promise(s). That someone would stoop so low as to employ such tactics speaks of a character I would not put in charge of a petrol station, let alone the white house. Apart from that Spanish ad Obama has largely steered clear of such tactics.

      Palin, of course, with her anti-science and anti-intellectual nonsense is another reason why that ticket didn't get chosen by me.

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  2. new territory by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since this position is pretty much new territory for the government, and since there will likely only be a single position created, it will probably end up being a hybrid CIO/CTO position anyways. As for who it should be, the Rossotti suggestion seems fairly reasonable. My father has worked for AMS for the past 20+ years on a number of government contracts. The one thing he always comes back saying is how screwed up and redundant a lot of the setups are--it's layer upon layer of hackjobs just to get the various systems to talk to one another. Rossotti is well aware of the current state of technology affairs within the government. I'm sure there are plenty others like him, but he is definitely someone who would be in a position to help clean up some of the mess that's there.

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    1. Re:new territory by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      My father has worked for AMS for the past 20+ years on a number of government contracts. The one thing he always comes back saying is how screwed up and redundant a lot of the setups are--it's layer upon layer of hackjobs just to get the various systems to talk to one another. Rossotti is well aware of the current state of technology affairs within the government.

      Money is at the crux of this issue, in two ways:

      1) The government often is unwilling or unable to invest in the type of infrastructure they really need.

      2) Unless the CTO *really* controls all the various agencies IT budget the CTO will be powerless. Agencies will listen nicely and nod their collective heads; then do whatever the want to because it's their money, not the CTO's.

      1 can be fixed with a well thought out plan and budget; 2 will take real change and radically alter the power structure. I doubt that will happen. Trying to do so will accomplish one of the hardest things in DC - getting agency's to put aside their turf fights and unite to defeat a common enemy; in this case the CTO.

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    2. Re:new territory by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh, fully agreed that it won't be easy, and may in fact be impossible. But I think having someone who's already well-versed in where things currently stand is a good place to start.

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    3. Re:new territory by viridari · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ah but if all of the federal IT assets and headcount are transferred under a new department run by this cabinet-level position, the appointee will then have the necessary power.

      It's pretty common in larger international companies to have a division or subsidiary that serves IS/IT needs to the rest of the company. IBM has IGS (which serves both internal and external customers). Johnson & Johnson has NCS. etc.

    4. Re:new territory by iPaul · · Score: 1

      I agree. The person will not have much power over disparate agency budgets. They will, for the most part, be powerless in the direct sense of the word. However, I expect this person to set direction and make some ideas okay or not okay.

      It might be nice to have someone that forces the various agencies to think about other approaches to their problems. Given the size and complexity of the executive agencies, where systems range from lots of embedded devices (like the DoD) to more traditional IT systems and mainframes. I don't think they're going to be in a position (nor would we want them to) to say "no more fire control systems built with rad-hard PowerPC boards running VxWorks - we're Windows CE on Intel from here on in because we're a 1 vendor shop!"

      (Or, just replace Windows CE with Linux - if that's what gets your goat).

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    5. Re:new territory by fireboy1919 · · Score: 1

      Money is at the crux of this issue, in two ways:

      I noticed in your sig that you are a consultant. I am as well...to government agencies. I convert gibberish into cash-flow...but it's not the gibberish I spew. Bear all that in mind when I bring up my other points, also related to money:

      3) The *domain* in which an agency works determines what is optimal IT-wise for them to do their work. Some of that can, and should, be standardized way more. This is not always intuitive. (For example, a police department actually needs to spend much more on Geographical Information Services software than does a transit authority). Believing that a single man is going to know enough to actually make standardization of every kind of government agency is a recipe for disaster. IT improvement has to come from within the agencies themselves.

      4) People with knowledge and vision to do Things the Right Way are almost never in a position to do so because experienced government work pays so badly compared to its industry counterparts. What you get, then is the people who either won't leave their government jobs because they don't have the motivation to do so (which means that they *naturally resist change*), or people who aren't competent enough to learn new things.

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    6. Re:new territory by PPH · · Score: 1

      I agree with your conclusions, to a point. #1 is true in that the government tends to throw billion$ down rat-holes with very little to show for it. These billions, properly invested, would be more than enough to aquire proper IT systems. But that's not happening now.

      #2 is correct as well. But the power structure being altered is that between the private contractors presently extracting the billions from the public coffers and the various agencies. They aren't going to put up with a single buyer any more than the health care industry does today. The current system of disorganization is very profitable and the IT industry lobbyists are going to see that it stays that way.

      I used to work for a gov't contractor and its typical within that industry to spend far more on their legal department "managing" customer requirements and regulations than is spend in the R&D department just building what they wanted in the first place.

      The one problem I can see with a federal CTO is that it might wind up being another Darleen Druyun.

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    7. Re:new territory by daigu · · Score: 1

      The CIA and NSA don't work for Johnson and Johnson - and they aren't going to go for outsourced IT who have access to their systems and who could potentially out their spies, black ops, or illegal wiretaping operations. As is frequently the case, there are relevant differences between government and business that you just can't treat one like the other.

    8. Re:new territory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Had worked maybe? There is no AMS. Leads me to wonder how much you are really paying attention. Does he now work for CGI Federal? Cleaning up the mess is already part of the process in federal consulting; that's where we are at now and is already a consideration and that consideration does not need to come from the "top". A vast majority of CGI Federal, oracle, SRA, general dynamics' work in the federal IT space already has to do with this. It's a bit sad how little the regular IT crowd understands about the federal IT marketplace.

    9. Re:new territory by nemoest · · Score: 1

      2) Unless the CTO *really* controls all the various agencies IT budget the CTO will be powerless. Agencies will listen nicely and nod their collective heads; then do whatever the want to because it's their money, not the CTO's.

      While this is true, consider what happens when bureaucracy is centralized. Homeland Security for example. Is this arrangement the best way to enable all the different agencies to carry out their security mission? Given that, would consolidating all Federal IT dollars through the CTO and not the agency head be the best way to carry out the agency's mission? Do you break the IT sections away from their agency and put them directly under the CTO/CIO? Will they have cross-matrix reporting and have multiple heads to report to? Does the Department of Defense need the same type of IT as the Department of the Interior? Or Commerce?

      I believe the best way to make a difference at the level we are talking about is to:
      1) Ensure clear regulations and guidance are issued at the upper levels regarding IT. Yes, they can make agencies follow these rules. OPM circulars and Executive Orders, for example, are two ways to issue directives.
      2) Provide a mission and vision agency IT departments can build theirs off of, while integrating into their agency's mission and vision.
      3) Work with the CIO of each agency to construct meaningful metrics to watch in the Presidential scorecard (or whatever the new administration calls their accountability tool).
      4) Keep looking forward to the future and help agencies get there by becoming their advocate. Federal contracting for large-scale IT solutions is riddled with problems. Why? Work with the agencies and then work with OMB to find ways to fix the Federal Acquisition Regulations. Engage with each agency and establish a relationship were both want to mutually achieve success.

      Whether or not Federal IT departments are placed under the CIO/CTO does not mean they can't find ways to get funding around the CIO/CTO (they can always petition Congress). In addition, once centralized, I find it difficult to believe they will be acting with their agency's mission and vision first and foremost in their thoughts. Of course a lot of this might be moot anyway. The way things are going, all that will eventually be left are contracting officials anyway. Everything else will be outsourced.

      Just my thoughts. All I'm trying to point out is in public administration, there are two (or sometimes more) sides to every solution, all with trade offs. I believe the best way to achieve goals in today's environment is to engage and find collective solutions. The days of strict hierarchy are, for the most part, over with.

    10. Re:new territory by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      I didn't particularly think it was worthwhile to go into the fine details in my post. But yes, for the past several years, he has been working for CGI-Federal or CGI-AMS or whatever you want to call the government contracting branch of CGI. As for the work he does, a lot of it does deal with setting up the interfaces between various agencies. And like I said, he talks about how there's a lot of extra redundancy and crude hacks just to get them to speak to each other. Am I involved in this directly? Of course not. Am I getting this filtered through his biases? Absolutely. But to hear him talk about it, it really sounds like things might work better if there were some sort of top-down approach taken with managing all of the various IT infrastructures deployed within the dozens of departments within the government. And also like I said, it would be a Herculean task, especially at this point in the game. But that still doesn't mean that I don't think it shouldn't be done. Of course, like anything, arguments can be made for and against it.

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  3. Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As long as it isn't another CEO, I'm fine.

    1. Re:Well... by 4D6963 · · Score: 2, Informative

      We already have a CEO (Chief Executive Officer), we just voted him in ;-)

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    2. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      CURSES! Foiled by acronyms again.

    3. Re:Well... by johnlcallaway · · Score: 1

      A CEO who knows nothing about running a business. Might as well get a CTO/CIO with the same qualifications.

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    4. Re:Well... by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      A CEO who knows nothing about running a business.

      A, more accurately, a CEO who over the last two years built a large nationwide business from the ground up, demolishing all the competitors in the field.

    5. Re:Well... by johnlcallaway · · Score: 1

      A CEO who over the last two years ignored his promises to stay within a budget, got lots of people to give him money with no guaranteed return, and barely kept it in business. And gets a yearly salary of $240K/year for the rest of his life regardless of how he performs.

      Sounds like a scam artist to me.

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  4. Re:change baby! by 4D6963 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    How does the next president dare rely on Washington politicians to work with him in Washington! I'm so disappointed in Obama, I thought he would have picked the members of his administration out of Washington. I had Loompaland in mind.

    Damn Obama for not having a grudge against most of the governing political world. There goes my dream of the first anti-Washington government..

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  5. Re:Richard by 4D6963 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yay! I say we need more ideological nuts in the White House!

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  6. Re:change baby! by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 3, Funny

    I agree. His first order of business once sworn in should be relocating the center of government to Tulsa. That'll show em!

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  7. buzzwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think you're using buzzwords to make two extremely similar positions sound more different than they are

  8. An obvious but bad (for FOSS) candidate by Ken+Hall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Knowing the way politicians think, the obvious candidate would be the recently retired, and possibly available, Bill Gates. I can't think of anyone I'd like to see less though. Anyone know if Obama &co are clued in on techie issues?

    1. Re:An obvious but bad (for FOSS) candidate by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

      Anyone know if Obama &co are clued in on techie issues?

      Hmmm. Dunno. If only slashdot had run a series of stories over the past few months detailing the candidates' technology stances....

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    2. Re:An obvious but bad (for FOSS) candidate by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      Riiiight, as if Obama was stupid enough to give the job to a guy who'd have too many conflicts of interest and has a bad record of anti-competition tricks.

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    3. Re:An obvious but bad (for FOSS) candidate by Migity · · Score: 1

      I don't think Bill would ever take a job from somebody who's trying to take more money from him.

    4. Re:An obvious but bad (for FOSS) candidate by TJ_Phazerhacki · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Actually, I think Bill would be a great choice. Personal gain is kind of redundant, and he has shown (on a number of occasions) his commitment to "the greater good."

      Flame-on!

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    5. Re:An obvious but bad (for FOSS) candidate by madcat2c · · Score: 1

      Your kidding right? Did you see anything they did on the internet? /not my guy but mad props to his campaign...

    6. Re:An obvious but bad (for FOSS) candidate by $0.02 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can't think of anyone you'd like less? How about Darl McBride?

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    7. Re:An obvious but bad (for FOSS) candidate by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      The public's opinion of Gates isn't as low as ours is. They don't know him like we do. That being said, Gates might be a better choice than Ballmer.

    8. Re:An obvious but bad (for FOSS) candidate by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      Who wouldn't be..

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    9. Re:An obvious but bad (for FOSS) candidate by barzok · · Score: 1

      I had the same thought the other day. There definitely are conflict of interest concerns there, but ignoring those he may be a better pick than the rabidly anti-MS crowd thinks.

    10. Re:An obvious but bad (for FOSS) candidate by innerweb · · Score: 1

      I was going to say he would be bad because of his ethical positions, law breaking, and other problematic behaviors, but then I remembered, this is the White House.

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  9. No need by zoomshorts · · Score: 0, Troll

    All the 'czars' the Bush people have brought into public existence should be abolished.

    The FCC mandate for HDTV should be revoked by Presidential Order, all of Bush's orders need to be rescinded.
    Wipe the slate clean. The Bush appointees should all be dis-appointed. Dismantle the crap Bush has caused.

    The RIAA et al, should be legislated out of existence as what they are, protection rackets, legitimized extortion.
    Change HAS to come. Radical change. We the People , allow yopu to do business in the country, not the other way around. The tail shall not wag the dog!

    1. Re:No need by jonwil · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think the digital TV mandate is a GOOD thing, digital TV allows you to put more data in the same spectrum (or the same data in less spectrum) and frees up the valuable space used by analog TV in the UHF/VHF spectrum for other uses.

      I just wish the FCC et al were more vigilant in enforcing the "all TVs sold must have digital tuners" rule (or whatever it is) so that companies like Best Buy and Walmart couldn't dump dirt cheap analog 4:3 CRT sets on unsuspecting consumers (who are going to need to buy converter boxes to make those sets work with digital TV)

    2. Re:No need by R2.0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because it's always better to limit someone's choice "for their own good". If I want a $100 TV and a $50 converter instead of a $300 digital model, that's just too damned bad - I'm getting that 16:9 aspect ration whether I want it or not.

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    3. Re:No need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about a dimple disclaimer warning that come February those TVs will no longer be fit for the purpose of watching over-the-air broadcasts.

    4. Re:No need by johnlcallaway · · Score: 2

      People who have cable TV aren't affected.

      A converter may cost $60, but the government is giving away $40 coupons, up to two per household. I got one, plugged it in, and got over 30 channels in crisp, clear video. Only one was poor quality.

      Getting rid of the HDTV mandate would be just another case of someone wanting to 'dumb down' America to it's lowest denominator. 'Oh .. think of the poor people'.

      Fuck 'em. If they can't afford $10 for a converter, maybe they shouldn't be wasting their time watching TV.

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    5. Re:No need by mabhatter654 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The FCC did just fine. TV stations were required to be digital 2-3 years ago. It was the media companies allowed to push HDMI and the Broadcast flag at -2 years to flipping the switch that caused the problem. Because the FCC almost mandated every digital TV made for the first 6 years of the conversion process obsolete! Congress approved the time table almost 10 years ago, and the original deadline was moved out 2-3 years.

      The FCC could have pushed up the deadline for electronics though. They made the Digital only TV sales set to January/February of '07 neatly allowing an entire Christmas shopping season of cheap non-digital sets to be sold... somebody was asleep at the switch on that one and it should have been July 6 months sooner. They also dropped the ball on the tuner boxes disallowing any digital outputs to protect sales of expensive HD sets. That meant that no converter boxes on the market prior to early '08 met the requirements of the law and now we're way behind on adoption.

    6. Re:No need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But what about addressing the real problems? Cleaning up the FCC and taking down industry cartels are noble quests, but they aren't going to address any fundamental problems.

      What I want too see is a solution to public education in this country that gives everyone a fair shot, not just those with means. We need to amicably resolve the science vs religion issue once and for all. We need to fix our broken economy, not just temporarily. We need to stop racking up debt and find a way to have all of the important governance we need while prudently paying what we owe. We need to figure out how to solve problems abroad without becoming part of the problem.

      This is just the beginning of a long list of extremely serious issues, and I think all Americans agree that they are urgent problems. I'd rather see one tiny step forward in one of these issues than the death of the RIAA.

    7. Re:No need by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      I think letting them have NTSC turners is great. just require a $500.00 fine to any TV set that does not have an ATSC tuner in it and sold without a clear document that says, "THIS WILL NOT WORK AFTER FEB 2009" in big bold letters. and signed by the purchaser with them getting a copy.

      That will fix Worst buy's wagon fast.

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    8. Re:No need by davidphogan74 · · Score: 1

      Or you can go to Best Buy and get a $129 TV.

    9. Re:No need by innerweb · · Score: 1

      and I think all Americans agree that they are urgent problems

      While, many, if not most (certainly not all) Americans would agree, the trick is not agreeing on what the problems are, but in what each person is going to give up to provide the funds to solve these issues (especially the debt). Most people are not nearly as hot and bothered to fix these issues once it comes down to how will you contribute today (money). They are too used to receiving without any consideration for the real cost, or when the bill will come due. That is one reason why the current economy is catching so many off guard and sinking so fast. They never wanted to understand what debt does or how a debt based economy works. Those who understood AND prepared have a gold mine of cheap bargain deals in front of them.

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  10. CTO? by secondhand_Buddah · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hear Bill Gates might be looking for a job...

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    1. Re:CTO? by kesuki · · Score: 1

      if by everybody you mean more than just animal life, and include the needs of thinking plants and abstract thinking constructs such as silicon based life. and beneficial bacterial strains, and even beneficial viruses. course there are dangerous viruses, and dangerous animals and dangerous plants and dangerous bacteria, but if you live all your life in a homogenized pasteurized way, soon the common cold will scare you.

  11. CIO? by exa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Nah, what you guys need is a better technology visionary, not some super sysadmin

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    1. Re:CIO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tend to agree. CTO is a much better title and more in line with what this country needs. And everyone, in a fundamental sense, understands what technology is and, thus, what the CTO is overseeing.

      I think people who prefer the CIO title just like that it sounds like CEO and, thus, makes their job seem more important for no real reason. Lame.

    2. Re:CIO? by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      Vision without authority makes one a figurehead.

  12. Visionary by VampireByte · · Score: 4, Insightful

    RMS might not be the choice, but it should be someone with vision. Tech should not be about record companies suing customers to maintain an outdated business model, stupid software and business process patents, paranoid monitoring of citizens, outsourcing jobs to cheaper countries, etc. CIOs seem to promote such things.

    We need to get back to kids being excited about tech, folks in a garage or dorm room creating a product, the Internet being a fun place, etc. Bill Joy seems to be more in line with this. Some CIO or whatever from a company that just kluges together overpriced systems doesn't seem very enlightened to me.

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    1. Re:Visionary by mabhatter654 · · Score: 1

      If not RMS then Lessing... he cleans up nice... he's a non-lawyer allowed to argue to the SC, that's something very special. He's involved with Creative Commons, trying to find a middle ground.

    2. Re:Visionary by syousef · · Score: 1

      RMS might not be the choice, but it should be someone with vision.

      RMS? Yes not the right choice, in the same way that a drooling mad serial killer might not be the right choice for a babysitter. If by "someone with vision" you mean someone with one, possibly 2 eyes, I agree. If you mean a zealot and an extremist that thinks they know best for the world and want to force anyone who disagrees into complying with that vision anyway, we'll have to disagree.

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  13. Here's what you'll get with Bill Joy by FreeUser · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In Wired, Issue 8.04, April 2000, Bill Joy wrote:

    "It is most of all the power of destructive self-replication in genetics, nanotechnology, and robotics that should give us pause. Self-replication is the modus operandi of genetic engineering, which uses the machinery of the cell to replicate its designs, and the prime danger underlying grey goo in nanotechnology. It is even possible that self-replication may be more fundamental than we thought, and hence harder--or even impossible--to control. The only realistic alternative I see is relinquishment: to limit development of the technologies that are too dangerous, by limiting our pursuit of certain kinds of knowledge."

    This sort of hysterical Ludditism is all too alive and well, and Bill Joy is (or has been) a Luddite of the first order with regards to genetic engineering, nanotechnology, and artificial intelligence.

    Unless he has seriously revised his stance, if Bill Joy becomes Obama's "Technology Czar" (what a stupid title "czar" is) we can look forward to a world where the most promising technologies are banned or severely curtailed in the US, with a high probability that international treaties will be pushed down the worlds throat to make the ban universal. At best, such technologies will be developed in China, India, and elsewhere (and at least some people will reap the benefits). This is IMHO, not the kind of person we need setting US political policies as regards technology.

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    1. Re:Here's what you'll get with Bill Joy by myowntrueself · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do you happen to know what Bill Joys views on PHP are?

      Because if your description/quotes of his views on genetic engineering/nanotech are anything to go by he would have PHP banned as well.

      And by that I mean that he sounds like the perfect man for the job.

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    2. Re:Here's what you'll get with Bill Joy by Animats · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I went to the talk at Stanford where Joy said that. The overall reaction was "Huh?"

    3. Re:Here's what you'll get with Bill Joy by djfake · · Score: 1
      This point is really interesting:

      "... such technologies will be developed in China, India, and elsewhere..."

      Will the export of technology, jobs, etc be under the scope of the new Tech Czar? Will the office oversee the visa fiasco that perpetuates jobs leaving the country? Obviously there are a lot of decisions that are tech related, but the power struggle between the different branches of even the executive office will be intense - Homeland Security, Military, IRS, etc. What exactly will this position do? Buy computers? Write checks to their former business partners? Arguably this CTO/CIO distinction is ancillary - the position is political.

      I like the communication model of Obama's http://change.gov/ website however...

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    4. Re:Here's what you'll get with Bill Joy by ultranova · · Score: 1

      (what a stupid title "czar" is)

      That sounds like something a communist would say. You aren't a communist, are you, comrade ? Because the way you talk about your rightful Czar and government sounds just like what a communist rebel terrorist would say.

      Your bolshevik sympathies and rebellious attitude have been noted. We're watching you. -Ohrana

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    5. Re:Here's what you'll get with Bill Joy by edschurr · · Score: 1

      The President's office already has a Science Advisor to handle that stuff. I think the CIO would get to handle infrastructure and supporting technologies, but not scientific or engineering applications including medicine and chemistry.

  14. Re:change baby! by sleigher · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Although I somewhat agree, you have to remember that he is in Washington. Even though he wants to change, Washington doesn't. Therefore it may prove important that he choose people from within to create that change. I have a wait and see attitude with Obama.

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  15. Re:Richard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seriously. Plus, I don't think Stallman would take too kindly to a bath, a shave, and a haircut. It'd be like trying to hold a cat under water.

  16. My pick... by SpeedyGonz · · Score: 2, Funny

    John Romero?

    *ducks*

  17. Really ? by smoker2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So in a world where governments are trying to effectively monitor every part of your daily life, and are mainly held back by incompetence, do you think it's a good idea to have some body in charge who actually knows what they are doing ?

    1. Re:Really ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      trying ?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsxxsrn2Tfs

  18. Obama needs a "suggestion box" by erroneus · · Score: 0

    I am sure someone will probably link us to several "suggestion box" avenues and I welcome them all.

    What is needed is not a CIO, but three PhDs in information technology that can essentially answer any questions posed with minimal industry bias. CIOs are business people and as such, think in business terms. "Change" is not a business term and certainly something every business actively seeks to avoid because change is bad for profits. Even when something is "inefficient" as long as it fits within their budgets, inefficiency is better than change. CIOs are definitely the wrong choice.

    1. Re:Obama needs a "suggestion box" by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 1

      Oh you missed the memo? http://change.gov/

  19. CIO is the way to go by Goldsmith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    CTO often implies oversight of science as well as technology. This would be a very bad thing. The person in charge of IT, who makes technology recommendations to the FCC, and who advises the president on the future of computer technology should not be the same person who is in charge of the NIH, NSF and is advising the president on things like particle physics (and visa versa).

  20. Technology not IT by sane? · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For such a CTO you need to make sure they are NOT just a information technology person - the real growth areas for the future are all outside IT. You need someone with a broad viewpoint and the ability to see the connections across widely varying areas. You also need them to be able to see consequences and how things will play out in future. An IT person is probably one of the worst picks you could make, too myopic.

    1. Re:Technology not IT by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      The choice is clear in fact.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil

      Of course, it is politics and I don't know how realistic I can be as outside foreigner. I mean stuff like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil#Stance_on_religion (Which Obama is mentioned)

  21. stop huge contracts with softwar gangsters.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  22. John Connor's mother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sarah Connor will stop the rise of those dreadful machines.

  23. Tell him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  24. No offense, but... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

    ... when you want a CTO... you select a CIO?

    I guess you also take strawberry ice cream when you want chocolate?

    Maybe you should first find out what you want, and then find the person who can get it, instead of the other way around.

    And that's why you are just a "pundit" (aka. consultant), and no real leader.

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  25. Re:change baby! by rhsanborn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Also remember that he has relatively little experience in Washington, and to get things done in Washington he is going to need people with contacts and context in that environment. Most good presidents are really good presidents because they know everything and know how to do everything, it's because they surrounded themselves with people who collectively knew all the things they needed to know. One of those things they need to know is how to get things done in Washington.

    That's something that may be of particular importance depending on how the Democrats in Congress want to try and use him. They may be under the impression that he is their new young puppet. It will be interesting to see.

  26. I object to the question by michaelepley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What a long winded and rambling question that really tries to play up the essentially artificial distinction between a CTO and a CIO, two abstract titles that are not particularly informative with respect to what the holders actually do. Most of the distinction seams manufactured by these same people to justify their titles.

    That said, it would not be surprising that I suspect it would ultimately be a hybrid CTO/CIO.

    1. Re:I object to the question by turbidostato · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "What a long winded and rambling question that really tries to play up the essentially artificial distinction between a CTO and a CIO"

      Quite to the point. I myself was considering answer the question "Should the United States' New CTO Really Be a CIO?" saying that Soulskill made some interesting points but that he took CTO and CIO's roles just reversed: on my book, the CIO is the one that might be "visionary" while the CTO is usually the "get-things-done" guy, so go figure.

    2. Re:I object to the question by des09 · · Score: 1

      And to my mind, CIO is a business type, a good CIO harnesses IT to make business more efficient, and a brilliant CIO will pursue visionary ways to do that, whereas CTO is an engineering type, who will often have visionary technology ideas, a brilliant CTO will be able to find a way to make them increase the bottom line.

      To my mind, if your product is technology, or the delivery of the product is only possible via technology, get a CTO, otherwise, get a CIO.

      The US gov. needs a CIO, but more important than whether its a CIO or CTO is whether the candidate has proven themselves to be committed to transparency, freedom of information, and open standards.

      (Balmer isn't qualified. )

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    3. Re:I object to the question by turbidostato · · Score: 1

      "And to my mind, CIO is a business type [...] whereas CTO is an engineering type"

      Probably I didn't make my point clear (on a side note I agree with your base differences between CIO and CTO... to a point, and that's my point too) so I'll make it explicit now.

      Taken to the letter, both CTO and CIO have so wide a mission they themselves would take appart a CEO almost enterily (everything in modern companies is managing information -and I mean the Shannon definition, by using technologies to make a profit). Usually that's not the case: both CIOs and CEOs are limited to Information Technologies: i.e. neither the CIO (usually) is in charge of the company press relationships (more a marketing/public relationship-related responsibility) nor the CTO gets responsible for every kind of technology usage within the company (specifically not core technologies for operations on a non-IT company).

      So, in the end, the CIO is the "chief INFORMATION technology officer" and the CTO is the "chief information TECHNOLOGY officer". With such a subtle difference between them that you need the caps key to make it clear, there will be almost as many definitions for CIO/CTO as companies filling those roles and it's not a surprise that it is usually more a matter of the person in charge's abilities and/or the executive board of director's vision than a hard job description and position.

    4. Re:I object to the question by iabervon · · Score: 1

      I'd actually say that the US needs a CTO, who would be responsible for identifying the most promising technologies to subsidize the development of. Someone who can look at the range of technologies that are under development, and decide whether it makes sense to go for more efficient production of renewable hydrocarbon fuels for cars and fuel-efficient hybrids, or whether we'd do better to produce more electricity in the midwest, transport it as compressed hydrogen gas, turn it back into electricity in the high-population areas, and drive plug-in electrics. And are we going to use enough more oil to make it worthwhile to put research into cleaner and safer processing, or should we focus on not using it in the first place? OSHA, the EPA, and the DoE each have their own priorities, and there isn't anyone in the position to find a balance between them and get useful things done.

      On the other hand, the government needs someone to fix the government's information technology problems, which is an entirely different job, and seems to be what Obama's looking for. I'm not sure why this post isn't called "Secretary of Information Technology", actually, which would be more in line with other executive branch government posts and distinguish clearly between the two possible job descriptions.

    5. Re:I object to the question by ModernGeek · · Score: 1

      If the CIO is the visionary, and the CTO is the get things done guy, I imagine that an Obama administration will want a CIO type of guy, seeing all the hope and change talk, with no real plan of action.

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    6. Re:I object to the question by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      I'd actually say that the US needs a CTO, who would be responsible for identifying the most promising technologies to subsidize the development of.

      I quite agree. Many countries have such a position and when well done (see Japan) it can be quite effective. I believe the US could do a better job of this than Japan.

      On the other hand, the government needs someone to fix the government's information technology problems, which is an entirely different job, and seems to be what Obama's looking for. I'm not sure why this post isn't called "Secretary of Information Technology", actually, which would be more in line with other executive branch government posts and distinguish clearly between the two possible job descriptions.

      Unfortunately, I think you're correct here too, in that this is what Obama's probably looking for.

      I have a couple problems with this. First of all, I don't see why this isn't a GSA function. The government has problems with real estate management; is that suddenly a cabinet position too? IT is a tool for the government, and the government's use of IT is not a policy matter on the level of cabinet secretary.

      Also, from my experience in the government, competence varies dramatically from one place to the next. While having an IT czar would probably elevate some of the real laggard departments, it would also stamp out the pockets of genius to be found here and there. The guy who's singlehandedly enabling ground-breaking research in some corner of NIH isn't going to stick around when word comes down from the new federal IT overlord that all his machines have to run Windows Vista.

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    7. Re:I object to the question by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      I suspect it would ultimately be a hybrid CTO/CIO.

      Not entirely sure about that. I think a more technical focus would be needed -- the US needs a technology focus, not another information focus. For CIO you have CIA. For CTO you have -- well, nothing really, since DARPA evaporated. I'd prefer a more civil approach, like the cabinet office suggested earlier. Science and technology; if you created a national CIO it would be in danger of turning into just another security agency. The name aligns with the focus of effort. Keep that "T" in there.

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  27. Mission Impossible by Detritus · · Score: 1

    I feel sorry for whoever gets the job. If the IRS was difficult to deal with, just think of the entire federal government. Besides the usual problems, he will have to deal with dozens of congressional committees for funding and the authority to make changes.

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    1. Re:Mission Impossible by des09 · · Score: 1

      no sh!t... I've worked a couple gigs for GSA, and at state levels, the complexity of the redundency is mind boggling. Lets just give the root passwords to Google, and emmigrate to Sweden.

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  28. Why look? by pngmangi42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    We already have a candidate.

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    1. Re:Why look? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't remember the last article on Slashdot that didn't link to an xkcd comic. Seriously, this is Slashdot, chances are we've already seen it.

    2. Re:Why look? by pngmangi42 · · Score: 1

      And yet... it's still amusing.

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    3. Re:Why look? by nuttycom · · Score: 1

      Hey, why not Randall Munroe (the author of xkcd)? The guy is clearly brilliant, and understands the modern web as well as anybody.

  29. This isn't an IT hands on position by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Deployment of IT in the Government isn't managed from the executive branch, but by laws that come from Congress.

    Any person put in either role needs first to be able to lobby and work Congress to mold reshape and shape the laws that govern the purchase, deployment and security of IT in government.

    Any IT visionary or hands on IT doer will fail if they can't handle the cutthroat and inherently corrupt process of working with Congress.

  30. CTO-CIO by JAZZYJOHN1 · · Score: 1

    LEO

  31. Re:change baby! by R2.0 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    He SAYS he wants change - it wouldn't be the first time a politician lied to get elected.

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  32. Re:Richard by 4D6963 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can you picture that guy in a suit? It would look a bit off, unless he changed his hair 'style', then he'd look like a new man.

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    You just got troll'd!
  33. First things first by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The first thing that needs to be done isn't to select the darling of the blogosphere - but rather to define what the hell a national level CIO/CTO does. What is his authority and how far does it reach? Etc... Etc...

  34. Be carefule what you ask for... by dstates · · Score: 1

    Be careful what you ask for. Centralizing authority mean centralizing control and potentially restricting citizen access to open government. At one point, the Government Printing Office was arguing that it had a constitutional mandate to run all government websites because this was a form of publication. Anyone who ever had dealings with the GPO knows what a disaster this would have been.

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  35. Darl or Carly by spoonist · · Score: 1

    Hmmm.... I'm thinking either Darl McBride or Carly Fiorina would be prefect picks.

    1. Re:Darl or Carly by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      Ms. Fiorina was McCain's technology advisor. Would you suggest that President elect Obama replace Joe Biden with Sarah Palin?

    2. Re:Darl or Carly by spoonist · · Score: 1

      Sarah Palin for the US CTO/CIO!! She may not know that Africa is a continent, but man she knows the difference between a hub and a switch: a hub is where the hub cap goes and a switch turns the lights on.

  36. "Communications Director" is CIO by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Chief Information Officer directs not just all information technology, but also all information systems and procedures at the organization. The CIO has control of much more than the machines and their operation. The CIO has control of the org's media relationships, the corporate communications, the "brand ID", and a lot of other details. That power in the White House is much more a part of the Press Secretary and Communications Director offices. It's much more a human-powered bureaucracy than is CTO and the IT department.

    That CIO power is not at all what we're talking about. In an org like the White House, most of their business is communications and information. What we are talking about changing in the White House is someone who is on top of technology, whether internal to the White House or the goverment, or external in the nation or the world. That's a much more specific job, that does need a new post, a CTO.

    I think that the Google execs who are already hanging around Obama in public will be the ones to select and present potential CTOs for Obama and his exec team to choose from. I like the nation talking about possibilities in public, but I know that the job will be more influenced by the insiders than by website discussions. Some things never change, and maybe they shouldn't.

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  37. I support by Arkem+Beta · · Score: 1

    John Scalzi for CTO!

    1. Re:I support by TomRK1089 · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod points for you. Scalzi is one of the more brilliant authors I've read.

  38. The Woz by RevWaldo · · Score: 1

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak

    Check the resume. He's got the vision thing and the technical chops. Plus he's stepped in educational technology issues, which is a very big deal.

  39. My experience with CIOs by david.emery · · Score: 1

    has been that they're "my way or the highway" IT Nazis who believe that the rest of us are there to make his job easier. Most CIOs I've seen are narrowly focused on their own little empires, rather than on advancing the goals of the organization/business at large. And most of them have relatively little intellectual independence from their vendor base.

    God save us from CIOs!

    dave

  40. Hooray for bigger government! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For all the complaining I see here about big government, there seem to be a large number of wetting their pants to see this person appointed.

  41. The DHS has it right. by Stumbles · · Score: 1

    Well, I don't know about you folks. But I think the persons qualifications should be other than a Masters in plant science. It seems our great protector from all things evil feels such a degree is sufficient to deal with technological security issues. Frankly, I think the person should be lower in the food chain than from the Cxx level of management. I am sure we, or most of us can recant many boneheaded decisions made by management types to the consternation of the IT guy who said, no don't do it that way, but management did anyway. http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/06/dhs-security-ch.html

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  42. Re:change baby! by zappepcs · · Score: 1

    I also have that wait and see attitude. I'm reading all the news and comparing notes with what RonPaul might have done. I was somewhat disappointed to see the strong attraction to Israel that Obama displayed almost immediately after being elected. That doesn't bode well for change IMO.

    Yes, there is that whole play along to get along, but with a strong grass roots movement behind him, he is not entirely forced to play along. Simply outing people to the public for not getting on the Obama game plan should cause issues. Now THAT would be change. The kind I'm hoping to see. REAL shit stirring. I'm not holding my breath.

    These are early days, but now is when he needs to be getting things moving so that on inauguration day he hits the ground running. He already has influence because he is president elect. While he may not have veto, he will. It's very possible for him to begin shaking and moving in Washington. The thought that since he's the new kid on the playground he will be hindered is foolish.

    Oh, and on topic, CTO vs CIO. He should have both. One is Technology, the other is Information. Both are important, linked, and necessary, but the domains overlap only for a small portion of each.

  43. Ray Kurzweil by Anonymatt · · Score: 1

    There must be a position open for Stevie Wonder as well.

    I'm only half joking.

    Too bad Jaco Pastorius is dead. I'd have written him in for president...

  44. He has principles by Gonoff · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It is unlikely that any government would find it easy to work with RMS.
    He is not only famous for his opinions. He is also famed for sticking to his principles and a huge lack ot tact.

    Isn't Stallman a gun nut anyway? Surely that makes him a republican...

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    1. Re:He has principles by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      Isn't Stallman a gun nut anyway?

      You must be thinking of Eric S. Raymond.

  45. Six of one thing, a half a dozen of another by zoomshorts · · Score: 1

    Digital schmigital.

    What they are doing is subsidising an INDUSTRY. Why?

    As we age, our vision and hearing deteriorate. Why spend
    money unless we need to? The spectrum will be SOLD OFF to other industries
    and NONE of the money will end up in your or my pocket. We, the People,
    have a share in the American resources, not the developers, who typically
    rape and run with the profits.

    Drill for oil in Alaska, where will be OUR share? Certainly not in our pockets.
    Build a huge shopping mall on land 'reclaimed' from public lands, due to a 'perceived' need
    for shopping malls. Lobbying and back room deals to allow a few to profit, while the
    public is screwed.

    We need to look after each other in the broad picture. Lobbys and other special
    interest groups are designed to buy influence and are almost totally against the public's
    interest.

    I only would support lobbies that may benefit ALL people. Lobby for the Aged or infirm(handicapped).
    Groups we may all find ourselves in.

    Why would you or I wish to subsidise tobacco growers? The list goes on and on. Don't get me started
    on grants for 'research'.

    The 'airways' are supposed to be PUBLIC in the US, but any change that allows private companies
    to profit at the public's expense, is just intrinsically wrong.

    1. Re:Six of one thing, a half a dozen of another by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sounds like you would rather destroy resources than have "the evil corporations" make use of them. Do you have any idea how much bandwidth we're talking about here? A single TV channel is as wide as hundreds of voice conversations.

  46. CIO + FOSS by markdavis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > "..addition, but the highest priority is a CIO. What do you think?"

    I think it should be a CIO. I also think that CIO should be ready and willing to start rolling out Open Source software in the government everywhere possible to save our tax money and foster innovation. Why do we continue to shell out billions of dollars for proprietary software when there are free alternatives?

    The CIO should also be involved (in some capacity) in IT competition, anti-monopoly issues, since it is apparent the Department of Justice doesn't know what the hell it has been doing over the last 20 years.

  47. the Woz will fit in with the Clinton holdover admn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's on his 4th wife, looking for the 5th. Lots of pickings among the interns left over by Rahm Emmanuel.

  48. Either CIO or CTO, the inevitable will happen by RevWaldo · · Score: 4, Funny

    The job will start off solely focused on the big picture, but after about six months...

    Setting: CxO's office - White House basement level

    Biden (in doorway): Knock, knock! Hey Steve-o! You in the middle of anything?

    CxO (not looking up from PC): Uh, yeah.

    Biden: Sorry! This is completely my bad. It'll just take two minutes. We're starting a meeting in the big conference room and can't get the other guys on the video. I know you showed me how before, but could you...

    CxO: (voiceover: Dumb f***!) (sighs) Uh, yeah, sure, be there in a sec.

    Biden (does a double pistol finger point): Owe you another one, big guy! (exits)

    1. Re:Either CIO or CTO, the inevitable will happen by plasmacutter · · Score: 1

      The job will start off solely focused on the big picture, but after about six months...

      Setting: CxO's office - White House basement level

      Biden (in doorway): Knock, knock! Hey Steve-o! You in the middle of anything?

      CxO (not looking up from PC): Uh, yeah.

      Biden: Yeahh.. we're going to be moving your office again..

      Setting: CxO's office - Rose Garden Shed
      *Biden is just leaving*

      CxO: "sir.. i believe.. you have my stapler"

      Fixed that for you.

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    2. Re:Either CIO or CTO, the inevitable will happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      totally true!!!

  49. Danny Hillis for CTO!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read that one of the candidates suggested is Danny Hillis. I actually think Hillis would be outstanding and national CTO/CIO. I certainly can't think of anybody better. He is certainly qualified and if you read his resume, you'll see he isn't afraid to take a long term view of things.

  50. Re:change baby! by Retric · · Score: 1

    On a lighter note the DoD has a CIO http://www.defenselink.mil/cio-nii/ but I think a government wide CIO might not be looking at the same stuff. However, even knowing that such organizations exist takes an insider at this point. I think it's easy for a new president to show up and say we need to create X so we can start doing Y even when there is already a group trying to get that done. Often the problem is people ignoring groups promoting change.

    PS: Dammit, when did I start talking like a government drone.

  51. Fire with fire. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We need defense nanotechnology: an artificial immune system to protect against invisible attacks.

    The real questions are:

    1) How to make this sort out between bad nanos and living things (which should left unharmed -- even losing fungi is unacceptable)? and

    2) How to prevent bad people (including some berserk government that now and then gets elected) from turning this against its owners?

    Limiting knowledge simply won't work (I'm not arguing whether this is good or not, simply that it's not possible).

    Good luck to all of us.

  52. Why not both? by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 1

    Why not have a CTO and a CIO?

  53. Re:change baby! by rhsanborn · · Score: 1

    I think a government wide CIO might look at more things or rather different things than the DoD CIO, but information sharing, system standardization, etc are all goals that would go a long way to make the government more efficient and keep things and people from getting lost. The end result may look different, but the new CIO should definitely start off by talking to this guy, and people like him.

  54. Need a tubes expert by EvilXenu · · Score: 1

    I think it should really be CIO. You need someone in charge of all of those tubes. I nominate Joe the Plumber.

  55. Bubblesort by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 1

    > Anyone know if Obama &co are clued in on techie issues?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4RRi_ntQc8

  56. Come on. by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

    Obama would NEVER do that to us.

  57. CIOs are clueless. by DragonTHC · · Score: 1

    That's like nominating my dad. Sure, he has over 30 years of experience in the Computer Industry as an engineer, but none of those years is in the past 10.

    CIOs have always been clueless.

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  58. Rosotti = BAD BAD BAD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work for the IRS and I am still dealing with the mess he left us. Rosotti was an absolute failure and any consideration for this man as the top dog is insane. He lacked any understanding of our operations and farmed out a majority of design and strategy to his cohorts in the contracting word who knew even less. The result was a modernization effort that did not work. You can google the numerous failures of IRS to modernize and the cause was his leadership.

    This man is more interested in making his contractors rich than anything. With a multi billion dollar budget in his control, he acted like a bad king. Someone should really take the time to review the deals he cut before saying that this is a reasonable decision.

    For those of us that have worked with him in a government capacity, we know he is the bottom of the barrel.

  59. EDIT by rhsanborn · · Score: 1

    Edit: Most good presidents AREN'T good presidents because they know everything...

    Please kids, don't post on Slashdot before coffee.

    1. Re:EDIT by RustinHWright · · Score: 1

      Our two presidents who came closest to "knowing everything" were Jefferson and Clinton. That's part of why they made a hash of so many things. Lincoln came in openly clueless on many issues and, after starting out with a year or so of massive screwups, got very wise and very smart, very, very fast.

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  60. Melodie Mayberry-Stewart, Ph.D. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NY's CIO, hands down. http://www.oft.state.ny.us/Welcome.htm

    She's excellent, with a long distinguished background in business and government.

    And she doesn't take crap from anyone. She'd eat Ballmer for dinner. The first thing she did when she took office was tell the corporate reps who'd always had a free pass to that office dictating to the previous CIOs to get lost and wait their turn.

    And one more plus - she is pro-open standards. She just published the first ODF document in the history of New York government. It promotes open standards and open source, with more to come. See http://www.oft.state.ny.us/policy/esra/erecords-study.htm

  61. If it hasn't already been suggested, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hear Ted Stevens is interested.

  62. We need both. by blackwizard · · Score: 1

    We need someone who can balance the roles of both a CTO and CIO as described.

    You can't get anything done in this country without compromising. Look at California proposition 1A. We'd finally build a high-speed rail line, but it isn't the most advanced technology - the plan is to use proven technology. If we had planned for a maglev line, it would have given the conservatives too much ammo to shoot it down as a "visionary fantasy".

  63. Department of Science and Technology by ukemike · · Score: 1

    I think there should be a cabinet position, The Secretary of Science and Technology. Put the EPA, NSF, etc. under that department. One of the key positions would be Undersecretary for Information Services (who would be like a CIO) Of course the first time we get another republican in the white house they'd probably pick Sarah Palin to be the Sec of S&T. Oh well.

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  64. Like 2-Face, I'm of two minds about this by iPaul · · Score: 1

    Given the position will be at a very high level, someone who's more visionary than practical (at navigating the government side of it) would be a good choice. In fact, someone who's mired in the day to day problems of managing technology in government (whether on the contractor side or the government CTO/CIO side) might see limits more than opportunities. So hire someone from government IT management and you will get government IT management.

    However, there are enough people in government that come up with pie-in-the-sky solutions, insisting that all solutions be buzz-word compliant without really understanding the ramifications in terms of time or cost, or if some solutions are even ready for prime time. Visionary can translate into unrealistic (especially in environments that are governed by a slew of regulations that are not common in the private sector.)

    In the end I think it's the actual person hired that will be effective or ineffective. What I don't want to see is someone who has the same answer all the time for the same problems. In other words all they know is buy from this vendor, implement with this contractor, insist on these "standards" and you're done.

    The most disturbing pattern I've seen in some agencies is to use IT contract management as a dumping ground for people who can't do the core job of the agency. I would like to see someone who cleans up IT contract management (and let's face it - almost all government IT is managing a contract while an outside contractor does the actual work).

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  65. Great idea if you want a monoculture by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

    Creating a federal CIO/CTO will *ensure* - absolutely and positively - a Windows monoculture.

            Brett

  66. What about David Shaw? by Koppology · · Score: 1

    I think that David Shaw, founder of D.E. Shaw, would be a very good choice for either position. His background is in computer science, yet he is a true renaissance man -- after building one of the largest hedge funds in the world (you've probably noticed the recruiting ads on /. by now!), he is working on building the world's fastest protein folding computer. The man is truly a genius, and undoubtedly has knowhow. I think he'd be a great candidate. He also seems to be quite humble, I went to one of his talks on molecular simulations recently.

  67. What about the Copyright Czar? by Xenographic · · Score: 1

    Somehow, I'm less worried about the Government CTO (though they're still important) as I am about the new Copyright Czar. What will we do if he picks some ex-RIAA flack? I know that Lessig is close to Obama, so I can only hope that he gets good advice.

    Personally, I'd ask William Patry. He's more of a moderate, but that's why his choice would be politically safe. He's also one of the world's foremost experts on copyrights, so that's another plus. But because he's no fan of the MAFIAA's expansionist view of copyright, we could at least make sure that they can't use the office for evil even while we would be able to head off any other nominees because pretty much nobody could be as qualified as him.

    At least, that's my thinking.

  68. Ballmer by ukemike · · Score: 1

    But if we consider his pick for Chief of Staff, Rahm(bo) Emmanuel. Steve Ballmer might fit in better. Both are well known for having violent tempers.

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  69. Re:change baby! by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Not true. he CAN shake up all of washington and get the people to turn on every congresscritter in washington like rabid wolves if he plays it right.

    "Fellow americans, your congress men and women want you to fail. they are against everything that I promised and are fighting AGAINST YOU.

    Please, every one of you, call your congress represenative, write them ,fax them, tell them they had better do the job you hired them for or else."

    That coming from the president's mouth, on national TV will be every politicians nightmare. If he continues to rally the public behind him, all of senate and house have no chance at all. If he can enrage the populace AS the president.. how thing in washington get done will change overnight.

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  70. different between CIO and CTO? by micromuncher · · Score: 1

    Everything and nothing. I've read job descriptions from both that read the same. So first someone needs to clarify the role and responsibilities of the job. And how would this differ from any technology advisor (of which there are many.)

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  71. If only... by Forbman · · Score: 1

    I'd want to see Steve Wozniak do it, but he definitely would need someone to run political interference and do the necessary head banking and arm twisting...

    Dean Kamen? Hmm... no.

    I know, how about Mr. Wolfram? Model government as a bunch of cellular automata..

  72. Re:change baby! by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

    You think he would do that when it's his own party in charge of congress?

  73. No, Rossotti should suffer a disease by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    " I favor American Management Systems founder and former IRS Commissioner Charles Rossotti."

    I don't. I worked for a subsidiary of AMS many years ago, and he cut everyone's salary, then rewarded himself with a multi-million dollar bonus because he saved money. I was not earning a lot of money, either, newly married. Gee thanks Charlie. Way to make everyone share the pain.

    Near as I can figure, he owes me $6K personally.

  74. Then start with patents. by RustinHWright · · Score: 1

    Yup, Washington culture has been a disaster for IT issues. Even going beyond the broader policy issues of visas and crypto, every federal-run IT project I'm aware of has been a disaster. Where would I have a CTO start? With everyfuckingthing possible about OUR PATENT SYSTEM.
     
    Back when I got mine, you could do your research just fine by getting your ass to any federal depository library and just putting in your time or, like me, heading off to D.C. and just going through plain old paper copies of patents in cardboard boxes (called "shoes" as it happens). It was low tech and unglamourous. Just like paper ballots. And just like those ballots, it worked. Since then we've had decades of b.s. and staggering amounts of government money has been blown. Oh, and btw, the typical cost of getting a patent, which in my day was about three thousand dollars, has risen to over twenty. You wonder why large corporations now file almost all the patent applications? That answers your question right there.

    Y'all around here know that I'm passionate about many tech issues. High speed rail. LEDs. Construction techniques. Netbooks. Human advancement into space. I would be delighted to see a competent move by the government to address any of those. But first, let's fix the one basic component of the federal government that's supposed to determine who controls ALL of those technologies.

    I apologize for "yelling", but this issue is utterly essential and /. never addresses it whatsoever.

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  75. Steve jobs by aslashdotaccount · · Score: 1

    Steve Jobs would be ideal for the job given that he knows the trends better than anyone else. What the top CIO/CTO dawg in government will need to do is fuel the future by exploiting the trends. Of course, in this regard Ray Kurzweil would be a goood choice too.

    1. Re:Steve jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His past record would never let him
      He thought that 64K would be enough and that John Sculley was famous for selling sugared water and
      his company's OS means nothing to 90%+ of the population.

  76. Linus Torvalds is *kinda* a good choice. by RustinHWright · · Score: 1

    Actually, that sounds like a great idea. For a deputy secretary post with some public relations responsibilities.
    Linus Torvalds has always made it clear, afaict, that he really doesn't want to be bothered with much of how the world works or why, just like many good programmers I've known. You're right, he's turned out to be a brilliant project leader. But it seems to me that much of how he's done that is by having the discipline to remember what does and does not appropriately get addressed by him.
     
    He's spent over a decade now getting extremely good at herding cats. He might be wonderful in partnership with Al Gore who, contrary to the bullshit jokes I still see around here, was doing quite well at his IT initiatives during the Clinton years. But as CTO? I not only doubt that he knows enough, I simply don't think that he's tempermentally suited to the job.

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  77. How about Bruce Sterling? Seriously. by RustinHWright · · Score: 1

    Bruce Sterling has some, let's say, Texan attitudes but overall he's proven himself to have a better grasp of an amazing range of technological issues for a hell of a long time now than just about anybody. The idea of a CTO who not only wrote both Heavy Weather AND Worldchanging, AND has been active in actual meatspace political organizing and organizational activities sure as hell appeals to me.
     
    The more I think about this the more I like it. BRUCE STERLING FOR CTO!
    F*ck; I may just go out and register the domain.

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  78. Worked for Ruth Messinger by RustinHWright · · Score: 1

    You might be surprised what the promise of the right political plum can do, even to a longtime sartorial nebbish. Though, admittedly, attempts to clean up Stanley Aronowitz never quite took.

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  79. The difference is obvious - Sumerian analogy by Kupfernigk · · Score: 1
    If you don't know the difference between the CIO and the CTO, here it is.

    You don't need computers to be a CIO or a CTO. The guy in charge of the Sumerian temple record collecting system was a CIO and he had baked clay tablets to deal with. Doubtless he had people who worked out how many tablets a day a scribe could produce, how much storage for new tablets were needed each year, how old tablets needed to be before they were scrapped, how many scribes they needed, and when a scribe took an ox-cart of confidential tablets home with him and then accidentally left them at an inn, he had the offending scribe impaled on a spike. That's the CIO job.

    The CTO meanwhile was investigating this new material called "papyrus", found out that the range of things you could put on it was much greater for a given weight and volume, and started to produce plans for a completely new server farm - sorry, records store - based on papyrus. He would have to consider a new training system for scribes, a new encoding for data, and probably a method of illumination of the scriptorium that didn't use oil lamps, since the new material was flammable. There would be many technical problems to solve before all the production and warehouse records could be moved to the new system.

    I can also give you a Gutenberg analogy - the monastic CIO was organising the scriptorium and ensuring that the Biblical copying was as accurate and speedy as possible despite human factors while the CTO was talking to Herr Gutenberg about this "Press" thing he was copying from the Chinese, and how it would semi-automate the production of Bibles.

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  80. We already have one. by Chris+Snook · · Score: 1
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  81. Neal Stevenson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If we want to go the visionary route.

  82. Kernighan & Richie by CranberryKing · · Score: 1

    People who understand about pipes AND tubes.

  83. Bruce Schneier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bruce Schneier should be put in charge of Homeland Security (which should be renamed to something less Naziesque), but if that doesn't happen then CTO would also be appropriate.

  84. Re:change baby! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obamba will be president of the USA, not the world. You want change? Then you should have voted for it (Nader, Paul, Kucinich, Gravel, &c.) Instead you voted Obama; CFR posterboy. If you think the US military was bad under Bush.. just wait. WW III. Your children have no future. You should have done your homework instead of so easily believing his propaganda, hypnotism & NLP in his speeches. Congradu-fucking-lations Amerika.

  85. Re:change baby! by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    I dont see Obama as a "party" guy. He is president now. There is NOTHING they can do to him so he can throw all their butts under the bus without repercussions.

    Honestly, if the man has the balls to root out the corruption that is rampant in the DEM and GOP parties as well as make life hell for every dirty senator and Representative then he would get the reelection locked in HARD.

    Most people know that their politicians are dirty, if he stands up and shines light directly on the dirty ones and airs all of congresses laundry for all to see, they cant do anything to stop him...

    Except for maybe a shooter on the grassy knoll.

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  86. Re:change baby! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Richard Stallman?

  87. For information, there's the CIA by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1
    For everything else, you need uber-geekery. You need three things:

    (a) a leader who knows how to spend money on technical infrastructure (not just IT but all technical infrastructure),

    (b) an uber-geek who knows how to find out if the money is worth spending on something, and

    (c) a re-activated ARPA to spend it.

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  88. Plenty of non-I T to worry about by PatrikDh · · Score: 1

    IT is an important issue, but I d think there is plenty of non-I T to warrant a real CTO.

    Solar energy, wind energy, "clean" coal, carbon sequestration, biofuels, hybrid and electric cars, nuclear energy, the hydrogen economy - all issues that are likely to play a huge role in the coming years. And that's just in the energy sector alone!

    Add to that things like GMO's, unregulated and unresearched chemicals in consumer goods (bisphenol-A, anyone?), adulterated or contaminated foods, NASA, space commercialization, you name it...

    You need a "Renaissance man" to be able to talk coherently on all those widely different areas of expertise, not just a computer wiz.

  89. Re:change baby! by narcberry · · Score: 1

    Management of government IT is a huge, generally unsolved problem

    I don't think the point of a new cabinet member is to oversee government IT...

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    Modding me -1 troll doesn't make me wrong.
  90. Commander Taco by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

    Although I think he should get a promotion for the national CTO job, don't you? Commodore Taco at least.

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  91. Re:change baby! by Miseph · · Score: 1

    Before you get too wrapped up in that game, keep in mind one of the things he would do, and has done, differently than Ron Paul is actually get elected. That has some fairly serious implications.

    Considering that of the top 3 contenders (Obama, Clinton and McCain), keep in mind that Obama was the least openly pro-Israel throughout the entire campaign. Of course, McCain had to do some serious pandering to the GOP religious base (who manage to both love Israel and be incredibly anti-Semitic at times... I'm always a little baffled there), and I think Clinton just barely summoned the will to not label Obama as an Islamic Holocaust denier... but he still apparently never saw fit to just say he thinks Israel is right all the time about everything.

    I also think it's a bit too soon to say he won't shake anything up, or that he isn't going after the corrupted parts of the establishment. He'll have Biden, a senior Senator and somebody who commands a great deal of respect for both his character and experience, presiding over the Senate, and I've been hearing about Rahm Emmanuel as ruthlessly effective and somewhat disdainful of the establishment for a few years now. Frankly, the only person that has been mentioned as a possible member of his administration I'm not so big on is Kerry; I voted for him in 2004 mostly because I thought Bush was running things into the ground (gee, I sure was wrong there...), and I voted to keep him as one of my Senators, but he doesn't impress me as a potential Secretary of State.

    I'm just hoping that he shuns George Soros, not because Soros' politics particularly bother me, but because the idea that anyone who is completely unencumbered by the Constituion or even public support has so much control over our political landscape does.

    Oh, and my on topic response; I want a lot more detail about precisely what Obama intends the CTO position to entail before I can say whether we want that or a CIO. We don't currently have either, so saying we need both is not necessarily true.

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  92. NO on both: Should the United States' ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The President already has an advisor on Science,
    and Technology Issues, even an agency called the
    the National Science Foundation.

    The President-Elect needs to move foreward with
    INTERPOL, NATO, FBI on arrest warrents for
    frm President George Walker Bush, all Cabinet Officers, all Presidental appointees, all Cabinet appointees and all Federal Government officials, down to mid-level managers and branch chiefs.

    Regiments of the Department of the Army, should work with NATO and FBI to insure the timely arrest of the frm President George Walker Bush and all others.

    The arrestees will be held at the Federal Rendition State, GITMO, for trial.

    Upon conviction of guilty, for crimes against humanity, abdication of the US Constitution and laws of the States of the United States of America, theft, murder, impersonation of a Federal Employee, bank fruad, extortion, the frm President of the United States of American and All appointed officals will be hanged until dead or may elect a firing squard execution (televised live on CNN).

  93. Re:change baby! by zappepcs · · Score: 1

    The fact that Obama recognizes the need for any type of position of this kind is a step forward... or should be. I think that handling information and the more general term of technology needs to be separate things. Many here on /. will think of technology as IT. It profoundly is much more. IT and green energy technology have very little in common, as do IT and many other 'technology' domains. I feel that they must be considered and dealt with separately except where they have overlaps in domain. I feel this way for the two at any level, federal or even small business.

    I'm waiting to see what Obama does, and am hoping for the best. Comments you make are salient and accepted.

  94. Rossotti would be a good choice, by fishtop+records · · Score: 1

    Rossotti would be a good choice, but why in the world would he want the gig? He wrote a book on how bad the IRS was, and he was in charge of it.

  95. I've seen this movie before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A new CIO means re-orgs and outsourcing. Just when we thought the defense sector was safe.

  96. Or Richard Stallman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's somebody you can trust to always look after the public interest. Say whatever you will about him, I'd nominate him for the title of "World's Most Honest Man".

  97. Many different technology areas (longish) by twasserman · · Score: 1
    The Obama Administration will need additional expertise and leadership in many different areas of technology, ranging from biotechnology to telecommunications, and from cybersecurity to information systems. While there are individuals who might be pretty good in a couple of these technical areas, it's hard to imagine a single person who could contribute knowledgeably in all of them. Even if we confine the discussion to computing, there's a long list of issues calling for different types of expertise.

    System procurement is pretty much a disaster across the board. The FBI and the FAA have sunk many years and many millions into new systems without very much to show for their efforts. The DOD puts out billions of dollars in contracts, but systems show up flawed, late, and way over budget (if they show up at all).

    Obama has promised to lower the cost of health care delivery through improvements in IT. The systems at the VA hospitals work, but are largely built on a version of MUMPS, a language designed almost 40 years ago. Getting medical professionals to agree on computerized medical records and systems for processing those records is an extremely tall order.

    National security depends on our ability to protect against cyber-attacks, and demands expertise in cryptography, network security, and other issues of authorization and authentication.

    We also want to make efficient use of the systems currently in use, as well as employ effective software development processes for maintaining those systems and building new ones. Government-supported systems will last for many years, so they should be built with modern, proven technology. Of course, open source software plays an important role there, preventing the government from becoming more dependent on vendors of proprietary software and systems.

    To me, a state CIO might be very good at preparing RFPs and doing competitive review of the bids for large acquisitions. However, that capability would only cover a small percentage of what is needed for the CTO position.

    I'd like to see President Obama appoint a CTO with broad technology and policy experience. This person should have worked with industry and with government, and should have good contacts in the research community. The chosen person should be able to sit around the table with Cabinet members and command respect for his or her knowledge and experience. Without that, it becomes more difficult for the CTO to effect change in the different executive departments.

    The CTO would probably need to establish an Office of the CTO and hire people with suitable knowledge of the various key scientific and technical fields. We're coming off a period where the public holds scientific and technical knowledge in low regard, so it's essential that the CTO help to restore the reputation and status of the scientific community.

    1. Re:Many different technology areas (longish) by plasmacutter · · Score: 1

      The "CTO" should be a committee chairman, and congress really needs to charter a federal technology commission, with Ph.D level certifications a requirement to sit on the board.

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  98. That doesn't matter in washington, NPR examined it by plasmacutter · · Score: 1

    I was listening to NPR a few nights ago regarding this subject, and the consensus among various experts was pretty clear.

    Without ex-lobbyists in his cabinet, Obama will have severe trouble moving his objectives through congress.

    There is most definitely a conflict of interest, but everyone agreed there were no feasible alternatives, unless of course Obama has a dossier of skeletons in every congressional closet so horrible they'd pass anything he demanded.

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  99. Lessig said no to copyright czar, but CTO? by plasmacutter · · Score: 1

    What if we made Lessig the CTO? or Doctorow?

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    1. Re:Lessig said no to copyright czar, but CTO? by Xenographic · · Score: 1

      Either way, you still need a czar in there somewhere. And I'd rather it not be a former RIAA leader.

      Hillary Rosen is entirely too available and politically active. I'd be leery of someone with strong MAFIAA connections in that office.

  100. Two roles by StormShaman · · Score: 1

    I'm hearing people thinking the CTO will do either or both of two things:

    1. Advise the President on new, emerging technology.

    2. Advise the President on managing the government's use of existing technology.

    Should these really be combined in one person?

  101. What's in a TLA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should the new TLA be a different TLA?

    (Three letter abbreviation)

  102. Re:Richard by gzip_this · · Score: 1

    RMS would be interesting. I could see him testifying in front of Congress "We have done an extensive study and . . . WAIT A MINUTE IS THIS A DOC FILE. I thought I issued an order that all non free software must be thrown out?!"

  103. Hello, new Frankie by frankie · · Score: 1

    Your post history looks right-libertarian. Y/N?

    IMO, the important question is not how much money came from weasels, or even what percentage, but whether you let the flow of money become important enough to subvert your judgment. Torvalds seems pretty robust; Obama remains in the maybe column for another few months.

    1. Re:Hello, new Frankie by Frankie70 · · Score: 1

      Your post history looks right-libertarian. Y/N?

      More like libertarian, but leaning left on social issues.

      =

  104. Two points by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. How is this an UNSOLVED problem?

    2. In what Universe would it make sense to add an additional layer of bureaucracy to something that is already handled internally to each agency?

  105. Re:"Insightful" my 4$$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your sources show that it was possible to donate to Obama anonymously, and that some people probably did so. That's not a problem, because anonymous donations can't buy influence;

    Yeah, right. "Tomorrow at 12 o clock you will get an anonymous donation of $10,632,908.37 [from me]."

    What are the chances of me not making the donation, and someone else giving at the specific day and time, the specific sum? So "anonymous" is just BS.

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