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Daylight Savings Time Increases Energy Use In Indiana

enbody writes "The Freakonomics Blog at NYTimes.com reports on a study of Indiana energy use for daylight savings time showing an increase in energy use of 1%. 'The dataset consists of more than 7 million observations on monthly billing data for the vast majority of households in southern Indiana for three years. Our main finding is that — contrary to the policy's intent — D.S.T. increases residential electricity demand.'" Maybe that's just from millions of coffee makers being pressed into extra duty.

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  1. Best Solution: Put it Back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I still have a number of computers that are running older operating systems for which there is no patch. The best thing to do about this ridiculous time change stuff is just to put it back the way it was.

  2. its because they are increasing the day by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of COURSE daylight savings stuff changes how much electricity you use.

    Afterall, if they give us an extra hour of daytime then your appliances are running for a full 25 hours a day.

    you have to run all your appliances for that extra hour every single day all winter.

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    liqbase :: faster than paper
    1. Re:its because they are increasing the day by ChromaticDragon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sigh...

      Must we correct such silly ideas?!?

      The extra hour is given to you in the Summer! Not the winter. In the US, the winter is during Standard Time.

      It's that extra hour of A/C, not simple appliances.

  3. Re:PedanticMan to the rescue! by Tumbleweed · · Score: 5, Funny

    Whoops, sorry, that was supposed to be 'Pedantic-Man', with a dash. How embarrassing.

  4. I thought it's for creating jobs? by sam0737 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought the change of DST rule was to create IT jobs in adopting the old system, and troubleshooting the mess introduced by the old rules, etc....No?

    Anyway, every time operation should be done in UTC in the core especially when it has to deal with cross timezone operations and globalization.

    On the other hand, It's stupid to see Windows can only handle 2 active rules before Vista at any given time, on the other hand *nix and Vista can have define unlimited rules given a period of the time. I couldn't imagine how one would devise a local time using the DST rule of time in Windows XP, probably revert to reinvent-the-wheel?...luckily I don't have to deal with anything like that yet.

  5. Re:PedanticMan to the rescue! by Tumbleweed · · Score: 3, Funny

    You mean a hyphen, something that shouldn't be there either. Nice try, so-called "Pedantic Man."

    Sadly, I have no hyphen on my keyboard, and no desire to go poking through a character map to find one, so I had to use a dash. Check the ASCII character. :)

    Don't feel bad - I *am* a professional!

  6. For us farmers by willworkforbeer · · Score: 3, Funny

    We need the extra hour of daylight for growing our Fall crops, so leave DST alone.

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    Pretending this is my office full of bitter coworkers..
  7. What do you mean "you like" ? by Kohath · · Score: 5, Funny

    What do you mean by you like? Didn't you hear? We're all supposed to conserve energy for The Earth. It's not about what anyone likes, it's about sacrificing our comfort, our prosperity, and our way of life to benefit The Earth. The Earth demands sacrifice!

    Now, start listening to your Leaders. They know what choices you should make. They say you should conserve energy. For The Earth. Any choice that uses more energy is Bad. Any choice that uses less is Good. There are no exceptions for productivity and no consideration for humanity. Just use less. Obey.

    (The Leaders are exempt and may use all the energy they wish.)

    1. Re:What do you mean "you like" ? by lennier · · Score: 2, Funny

      "The Earth demands sacrifice!"

      That's why my party will abolish both gravity and curvature within the first 30 days of our administration, as well as moving to increase solar output by 200% and crustal diameter by 50%. We will increase topsoil depth to 50 miles, mineable ore content to 100 kg per acre of gold, copper and iridium, and mandate that the Atlantic Ocean flow with light sweet crude.

      The exponential growth of our economy demands no less, and it's high time we stopped crippling it with arbitrary 'resource limits'.

      No more sacrifices.

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      You are not a brain: http://books.google.com/books?id=2oV61CeDx-YC
  8. This energy saving plan brought to you by by presidenteloco · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Bush administration, with
    its fine misunderestimated mathematical minds,
    who also calculated that if Osama Bin Laden
    was hiding on the Afghanistan/Pakistan border,
    we should go defeat him in Baghdad.

    Oh and the same minds who calculated that
    even though co2 lets in visible-light and ultraviolet
    energy from the Sun and reflects and traps in infra-red
    energy that radiates back off the Earth, it won't cause
    global warming, because that would reduce oil
    sale revenues.

    It's honestly quite a shocker that this cunningly
    devised plan didn't work.

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    Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?
  9. Re:DST is Still Worth It by calyxa · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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    Decay! Decay! Decay! -Helium
  10. Re:PedanticMan to the rescue! by Golddess · · Score: 3, Funny

    When you enter DST, you jump ahead one hour, skipping completely over it. That hour is being saved until you switch back to standard time, where it is then used up.

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    "I'm not sure I like the fugnutish tone you used in your post!" -RogL (608926)-
  11. Oh come on now... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 5, Funny
    A government mandate that produces results contrary to the policy's intent?

    That just can't be.

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    This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
  12. Re:PedanticMan to the rescue! by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2, Funny

    Daylight Saving Time. Saving, singular, not Savings, plural.

    As you were.

    Also it's not a "safety deposit box". It is a box, where you deposit things, kept in a safe. It's a safe deposit box.

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    If a job's not worth doing, it's not worth doing right.
  13. Re:Same over here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    o I've never worked out where it's coming from....

    It comes from your bill :-)

  14. Re:I love DST. I hate standard time by Kreigaffe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes.

    Yes it is.

    You should try that, but add in the benefit of 12 hour *swing* shifts. You get to not only experience the joy of never seeing the sun, with the added benefit of constantly changing your sleep pattern every few days. I assure you, the combination is much better than either separately. I love my job.

    Excuse me while I go find a sturdy ceiling beam and a less-than sturdy chair.

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    ... still waiting for this free-as-in-beer free beer I keep hearing about. :|
  15. Re:Non-standard meaning of "standard" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Calling winter time "Daylight Losing Time" wouldn't be as appealing.

  16. Re:PedanticMan to the rescue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    These days, it's called Catholicism.

  17. Re:NO! DL causes draughts! by styrotech · · Score: 2, Funny

    Draughts? No wonder daylight saving has a checkered history!

    Or maybe some of that foamy tape stuff in his door/window frames would help fix the problem?

  18. Re:No joke, coffee makers do have an effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    When was the last time you cleaned your coffee maker?

    People clean their coffee makers?

  19. Re:DST is Still Worth It by DeathElk · · Score: 2, Funny

    And get off my fucking lawn.

  20. Re:No joke, coffee makers do have an effect by OrangeTide · · Score: 2, Funny

    I leave my car idling all night so it's ready in the morning too. Sometimes I get headaches and feel dizzy when I go into the garage though.

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    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
  21. Re:Same over here by xarak · · Score: 2, Funny

    You lucky bastard!
    When I were young, I were happy if I didn't have ice in the well in the morning, and that were on the hottest day of the year.

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    Atheism is a non-prophet organisation
  22. Re:DST is Still Worth It by qc_dk · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's good people thought of the children here in Scandinavia. I fondly remember only going to school for one hour a day in winter. The problem then comes in summer when we had to go to school from 4 am until midnight to make up for the time lost in winter. But, luckily it was still light when I walked home from school. And the poor kids who went out in the dark to play in winter... All dead. Taken by Grendel or the Fenris wolf.

  23. Native American Proverb... by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Only a white man would believe that cutting a foot off the top of a blanket and sewing on to the bottom would make a longer blanket.

  24. Re:PedanticMan to the rescue! by skeeto · · Score: 2, Funny

    When I was taking a writing class in college, the night before the assignments were due I would post them to Slashdot as anonymous coward, along with a flamebait post title. Sure, they were always off-topic and rightfully modded as such, but eventually some pedantic grammar nazi would come by and fix all my mistakes for me.