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Should We Clone a Neanderthal?

SpaceAdmiral writes "Forget cloning a woolly mammothshould scientists clone a Neanderthal? Such a feat should be possible soon, although it raises a number of bioethics concerns, including where to draw the line between humans and other animals."

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  1. Yes, because they would make by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    great hockey players!

    1. Re:Yes, because they would make by l-ascorbic · · Score: 2, Funny

      Better still, croquet players.

  2. Yes by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cause then it would no longer be socially acceptable for women to call us that anymore.

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    1. Re:Yes by internetcommie · · Score: 5, Funny

      What if it turns out they are just like us?

    2. Re:Yes by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Funny

      The jokes are funnier if I don't have to explain them.

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    3. Re:Yes by eclectro · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cause then it would no longer be socially acceptable for women to call us that anymore.

      That wouldn't matter. The Neanderthals being the new "hot" in town would steal everyone's girlfriends. They would even be making movies out of it, probably calling it something like "dusk."

      I have an ethical problem with that.

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    4. Re:Yes by Cow+Jones · · Score: 4, Funny

      What if it turns out they are just like us?

      I wouldn't worry about that too much. At this very moment, there are several millions of Neanderthals among us, both male and female.

      CJ

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    5. Re:Yes by Metasquares · · Score: 4, Funny

      Then they would be the ones cloning us.

    6. Re:Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The next issue is, are they similar enough to reproduce with us, and give fertile offspring. That's a huge issue nobody would want to touch.

      Given the boyfriends my ex has been through in the past couple of years, I think nobody might be a bit strong.

    7. Re:Yes by Shikaku · · Score: 4, Funny

      I for one welcome our previously extinct smarter overlords.

    8. Re:Yes by Count+Fenring · · Score: 4, Funny

      (I can't believe I'm sinking to this level)

      It also might depend on just how huge that issue really is. Wink, nudge.

      I am speaking of penises .

    9. Re:Yes by pe1rxq · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, they would probably stop trying to explain it to you....
      I think its a safe bet that the neanderthal picks up on it before you do....

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    10. Re:Yes by daveewart · · Score: 5, Funny

      Put me in a room with a bear, repeat a hundred times and see who comes out on top. Doesn't mean the bear is smarter.

      I think it might mean that, actually. You just said "Put me in a room with a bear". Well, duh... you're clearly not that smart.

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    11. Re:Yes by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Funny

      Instead of people putting on a wizard's hat and making claim to special knowledge about the supposed ethics of a situation perhaps it would be saner to only consider what benefits an action might yield. I suspect that having a couple of living Neanderthals just might yield a great deal of scientific and medical information that would be highly useful to us all.
      Interesting. You know, that same argument gets used all through history. In fact, it is the same argument that was used by Germans in WWII. And the truth is, that it DID yield MANY useful items. Much of our surgical tech. CAME from those experiments. Our knowledge of a number of diseases certainly came from there. Later Americans gained all sorts of useful knowledge by performing experiments on living humans, such as we learned a lot about syphilis in the 50s.

      But I think that we should round up all the illegal aliens, Al Qaeda terrorists and neo-cons (all have been shown to be disastrous to America) and start a new round of medical experiments.

      Or is there some objection via ethics and morals?

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    12. Re:Yes by sharkman67 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't forget to add lawyers. I don't think there is anything immoral about doing medical experiments on attorneys.

    13. Re:Yes by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Funny

      That wouldn't matter. The Neanderthals being the new "hot" in town would steal everyone's girlfriends. They would even be making movies out of it, probably calling it something like "dusk."

      Our only solace is that the Geico commercials will really piss them off.

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    14. Re:Yes by ArcherB · · Score: 1, Funny

      The next issue is, are they similar enough to reproduce with us, and give fertile offspring. That's a huge issue nobody would want to touch.

      Given the boyfriends my ex has been through in the past couple of years, I think nobody might be a bit strong.

      I did your ex you insensitive clod!

      Once I shaved her back, she wasn't too bad.

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    15. Re:Yes by The+Real+Andrew · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now thats a reality show I would watch

    16. Re:Yes by Prien715 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I was unaware bears and humans were attempting genocide on one another -- can you let me know when this happened? I was very surprised to hear the bears were doing this -- I thought they ate honey and stole picnic baskets all day.

      A larger issue, I suppose, would be the uniquely human capacity to completely exterminate a species. Even in our early days, we show great promise at genocide.

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    17. Re:Yes by PaganRitual · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't know if it's that cut and dried.

      Remember that, theoretically, up to half the bears would be smarter than the average bear.

      Although having said that, they are likely to be a lot more boo-boos for the humans to take advantage of and ... which way did you say the door was?

  3. Dibs! by Perseid · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dibs on the TV franchise rights! Neander-thon! Saturdays at 8!

  4. Advertising! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    1)Clone Neanderthals

    2)Make Geico commercials

    3)Profit!

  5. Geico by Kamokazi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Geico would pay good money for the authenticity.

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  6. Legal Rights NOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Since it's pretty clear that it's only a matter of time. we need a constitutional amendment that grants person-hood and citizenship to any and all future Neanderthal clones. Just get that crap out of the way.

  7. Clone 'em??? by nysus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wasn't having one of them run the country for eight years bad enough?

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    1. Re:Clone 'em??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      C'mon - Bill's been out of office for years....

      The interns are safe.

  8. Well by JimboFBX · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wouldn't that be like knowingly bringing someone into the world knowing that they are going to be horrendously ugly and live their life lonely? Wouldn't having sex with them be borderline doing it with a gorilla? What would the ethical ramification of this be?

    1. Re:Well by jonaskoelker · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wouldn't that be like knowingly bringing someone into the world knowing that they are going to be horrendously ugly and live their life lonely?

      Really? Some of the boys I see attached to some girls would fit the description "Neanderthal" quite well ;)

    2. Re:Well by Hal_Porter · · Score: 4, Funny

      What would the ethical ramification of this be?

      I'm a consultant ethicist that could advise you on this.

      I have a base package where I look very vaguely at the surface of things and decide most things are immoral. I also have a premium package where I look much deeper into the history of the issues and decided that what your asking is actually ethically ok.

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  9. Re:"The Dead Will Rise" by Broken+scope · · Score: 5, Funny

    But when the inevitable species war erupts, we can end racism.

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  10. Religious point of view by Amiralul · · Score: 5, Funny

    If God have meant for us to clone a Neanderthal, He would provide us the tools and the knowledge to do that!!

  11. What? by neokushan · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's like asking "Should I flash linux onto the Microwave so I can use it as a file server?" or "Should I port Doom to the Credit-card reader I bought off eBay?" or "Should I build a deliberately complicated system of relays, pulleys, levers, programs and scripts so that I may control the precise movements and power output by a bog-standard toaster remotely, from 500 miles away?". I mean, really, do you have to ask? Of course we fucking should!

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  12. Evolution by Detritus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Survival of the fittest does not mean survival of the smartest or survival of the strongest. What if Neanderthals are mentally and physically superior to Homo Sapiens? I can't wait to hear the NFL Players' Association bitching about unfair competition. These guys used to hunt mammoths with wooden spears. They don't need protective equipment and they will kick your ass.

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    1. Re:Evolution by smellotron · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't think the NFL allows wooden spears in play...

    2. Re:Evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      but the NHL does

    3. Re:Evolution by pato101 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Neanderthals smarter approach to Evolution:
      1) Extinct. Seems a bad move but:
      2) Wait for Sapiens clone them up."If they extincted, they cannot be smart"
      3) Rule the world! Muhahhahha

      I guess xkcd could make a comic with this script.

  13. Of course! by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 2, Funny

    Of course we should clone one...

    How else am I going to get a date?

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  14. Sure, why not? by Star+Particle · · Score: 2, Funny

    Once it learns how to speak, it can tell us what it was like to live back then!

  15. Re:queue... by pilgrim23 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Geico would make an Obscene CLone Fall

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  16. RIP, Phil Hartman by fo0bar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I'm just a caveman. I fell on some ice and later got thawed out by some of your scientists. Your world frightens and confuses me! Sometimes the honking horns of your traffic make me want to get out of my BMW.. and run off into the hills, or wherever.. Sometimes when I get a message on my fax machine, I wonder: "Did little demons get inside and type it?" I don't know! My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts. But there is one thing I do know - when a man like my client slips and falls on a sidewalk in front of a public library, then he is entitled to no less than two million in compensatory damages, and two million in punitive damages. Thank you.

  17. Re:Well, arguably not... by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 2, Funny

    My mammoth is already calculating prime numbers.

  18. Re:"The Dead Will Rise" by Broken+scope · · Score: 3, Funny

    Eh, I'm still confused about my sarcastic comment being modded insightful.

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  19. Re:Not nearly as viable an idea by nacturation · · Score: 1, Funny

    I heard of a museum called POTUS (Primates Of The United States, I believe it stands for) where they claim to have just one such specimen, though the exhibit is due to be decommissioned in early 2009.

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  20. gaps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    we'll just fill in the gaps with frog DNA. what could possibly go wrong.

  21. Re:This has been on my mind for a few years ... by sakdoctor · · Score: 4, Funny

    4. We could if we sent it to public school.

  22. Re:Not so. by jamstar7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, my ex used to tell me 'size doesn't matter' before running off with that surfer dude...

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  23. Slave Caste by sqrt(2) · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let's bring them back to use as a subjugated slave caste doing jobs that are too hard or dangerous for humans.

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    1. Re:Slave Caste by Dannon · · Score: 2, Funny
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  24. Re:Quick question by something_wicked_thi · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, no, no, no, NO!

    You've missed the point.

    You do not start by cloning geniuses. Then you might end up with an evil genius and that would just end badly for everyone involved. No, it's far better to start with neanderthals and work your way up. Dear lord, you need to watch more horror movies.

  25. Re:Not animals by lxs · · Score: 5, Funny

    So "not animals" only applies to plant life.

    And once again our fuzzy friend the fungus has been ignored.
    Mushrooms have feelings too you insensitive clod.

  26. Re:Quick question by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dead Men Cloning Act?

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  27. Re:Not animals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "It's capable of the lower levels of human functionality. Say, somewhere between Forest Gump and a chimpanzee"

    This is exactly why we shouldn't do it. It's bound to vote Republican...

  28. Re:What about modern diseases ? by mentaldingo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Many of the volunteers may be neanderthals too.

  29. Already Done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    and George W Bush was a failed experiment

  30. Re:Already Done by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2, Funny

    Trite and obvious.
    Yet, the way it could pave,
    For another resurrection:
    Burma Shave

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  31. Re:Silly Humans! Clone an EINSTEIN !! by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are plenty of those here already!!

    Indeed. What I want to know is what attracts them all to YouTube.

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  32. Re:Not animals by Sparky+McGruff · · Score: 2, Funny

    "It's capable of the lower levels of human functionality. Say, somewhere between Forest Gump and a chimpanzee"

    This is exactly why we shouldn't do it. It's bound to vote Republican...

    I'd say with credentials like that, he or she could be Sarah Palin's running mate!

  33. Possible soon? by techstar25 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Such a feat should be possible soon"

    One top scientist was quoted as saying, "It's so easy a caveman could do it".

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  35. Re:Silly Humans! Clone an EINSTEIN !! by johnny0099 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Indeed. What I want to know is what attracts them all to YouTube.

    Well, I can't speak for all cave dwellers, but I go for the free food. And the chicks are cool.

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