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Google Chrome Tops Browser Speed Tests

ThinSkin writes "So many Web browsers, so little time. The folks at ExtremeTech have assembled the ultimate browser test to determine which Web browser is king. From speed tests to rendering tests, different browsers traded off wins, but Google Chrome came out on top."

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  1. Google Chrome by freakmn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Guess I must be the only one here using Chrome. No other comments yet.

    But seriously, the speed difference is noticeable. When I'm on my mac, I miss using it. Plugins are hard to come by, but other than that, it's great. Quick as Firefox used to be.

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    1. Re:Google Chrome by Voice+of+Meson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What about the time it takes to switch to Firefox because Chrome doesn't work properly with Facebook?

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    2. Re:Google Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What is this Facebook you speak of?

    3. Re:Google Chrome by appleprophet · · Score: 2, Informative

      Use Safari -- it uses WebKit which is the "secret sauce" of Chrome. Seriously, if you want something really fast, use the latest WebKit nightlies, which hook into the Safari shell. They are actually quite a bit faster than Chrome at the moment, which obviously uses an older WebKit build than the WebKit tip-of-tree.

    4. Re:Google Chrome by miffo.swe · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Guess I must be the only one here using Chrome."

      Thats because its not released for Linux yet!

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    5. Re:Google Chrome by pembo13 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Is the rendering engine speed really your bottle neck when browsing? Because I would love to have that problem.

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    6. Re:Google Chrome by srussia · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Guess I must be the only one here using Chrome."

      Thats because its not released for Linux yet!

      Busted!

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    7. Re:Google Chrome by beelsebob · · Score: 5, Informative

      The speed advantage of the nightly web kits is caused not by the fact that they're newer than chrome's rendering engine, but by the fact that they don't use Google's V8 javascript engine. Instead, they use the much faster (and also more correct) SquirrelFish Extreme engine.

    8. Re:Google Chrome by beelsebob · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, while not strictly "pure safari", the nightly builds of WebKit (safari's engine, including javascript engine), have a new, much faster Javascript engine called SquirrelFish Extreme, it not only beats V8 in speed (even on the heavily biased V8 benchmark), but also correctly renders Acid3, along with getting many less-corner-case parts of javascript correct.

    9. Re:Google Chrome by kestasjk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But does it handle large web apps (which V8 was designed for) as well?

      V8 (and Chrome in general) is the software form of a bet that the web is going to host larger and larger applications.

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    10. Re:Google Chrome by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Funny

      its like myspace but for posh peeple I fink.

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    11. Re:Google Chrome by smittyoneeach · · Score: 3, Funny

      With extensions and stuff that want to check for updates, FireFox can take a while.
      But then, I was trained in the...meditative...initialization fields of Emacs, so I am at peace with this.
      You get it moving, you open a slew of tabs, and life is good.
      Maybe FireFox and Emacs could one day merge...

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    12. Re:Google Chrome by secmartin · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well you can use it anyway... There is a crossover version for both Mac and Linux, you can build your own version for both Mac and Linux, and there's a recent Mac build here. I'm sure there are lots of other builds available as well.

    13. Re:Google Chrome by drsmithy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Instead, they use the much faster (and also more correct) SquirrelFish Extreme engine.

      That sounds like some sort of obscene initiation rite...

    14. Re:Google Chrome by rpmayhem · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, it is. The folks at CodeWeavers did it.

      http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ports/chromium/

    15. Re:Google Chrome by rpmayhem · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also, I forgot to mention, they have a Mac OS version too.

    16. Re:Google Chrome by Sebilrazen · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...and myspace is like a good whiskey bar, it's where to go when you're looking for quality 12-year-olds.

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    17. Re:Google Chrome by mobby_6kl · · Score: 4, Funny

      > What is this Facebook you speak of?

      I assume it's something used to express disbelief at a situation or fact, much like "facepalm". Except, well, accomplished with a book one happens to be holding at the moment.

  2. Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But speed isn't everything. The moment Chrome lets me use the 17 extensions I have to firefox and is still the fastest, I applaud. Currently I couldn't even consider having to lose all the extensions that help web development and surfing...

    This thing should be clear to everyone by now.

    Use Chrome if you want speed, Firefox if you want extensions, IE if you just want to annoy the hell out of all us Firefox fanboys, Opera if you want a ready package of speed and features, etc...

    1. Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome by isBandGeek() · · Score: 5, Funny

      And Safari's for people that don't want extensions or features. Right?

    2. Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've grown so attached to some extensions I'll very soon stop even consider anything not having them.

      How long till they start making browsers with a "firefox plugin compatible" feature?

    3. Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome by beelsebob · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Most people I've ever asked "exactly what Firefox extensions do you use", give me a list of features that are either in safari or easily available through plugins. Some examples:

      FireBug -- already included in the web inspector, Safari 3's is FireBug's equal, while Safari 4 DP's is massively improved.
      AdBlock -- SafariAdBlock, nuf said.
      Full Screen Mode -- Glims
      Search in address bar -- Glims

      etc.

    4. Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome by beelsebob · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's built in, turn the Developer menu on in preferences, and select Develop -> Disable Javascript.

    5. Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome by polar+red · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And if you want 1 site to be able to use javascript, but you wouldn't allow another site to use it unless hell froze over ?

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    6. Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome by n3tcat · · Score: 4, Funny

      And Safari's for people that don't want extensions or features. Right?

      or if you're just tired of itunes asking you if you want to install safari

    7. Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome by rtaylor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm not a web developer (just occassionaly only) but to that list of FireFox plugins you can add YSlow, HTML Validator, and an inline PDF reader (not external requiring full download of PDF first as 25% of what I view is PDFs).

      Also, I use Firefox on Mac OSX, FreeBSD, and Windows Vista and having a consistent browser is convenient -- though the PDF readers work better on some than others.

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    8. Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome by pdusen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And also isn't nearly the same as noscript...

  3. Safari? Safari what? by tyrione · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You're using a non-release Chrome and yet I'm not seeing a nightly build of Safari referenced.

    The Developer Preview of Safari 4.0 trounces Safari 3.1.x.

    The Safari nighly builds trounce all over Safari 4.0 developer preview.

    1. Re:Safari? Safari what? by rawg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, I use the Webkit nightly builds. Webkit runs circles around everything else, plus it renders the Acid 3 test 100%. Yet reviewers will review beta/alpha browsers and leave Webkit out.

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    2. Re:Safari? Safari what? by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Btw, IE 8 beta 2 also seem to have way improved performance over IE 7, although that one will still not reach "interesting" levels in a test like this.

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  4. Interesting, but nothing really new by Bearhouse · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Summary: IE is crap, Safari has some issues, Opera most compatible with Acid 3, Firefox is OK and Chrome is fast but not finished.

    So, a stripped-down browser is fast. Wow.

    In the real world, I'll be sticking with Firefox, with Ad blockers, Greasemnkey etc.

    1. Re:Interesting, but nothing really new by Bearhouse · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You are a leech on the rest of society

      Because I use ad-blockers? How about people who use TIVO? I have no problem paying for stuff, and contribute to free projects, donate to Wikipedia etc. Just because I sometimes want a less-intrusive browsing experience does not make me a leech. And who gives a shit about karma anyway?

    2. Re:Interesting, but nothing really new by huit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A leech because we want to explore the internet without unsolicited ads? A user may be interested in exploring a sites content only to be exposed to unsolicited (and importantly here, unannounced) advertising. Seems to me like adblocker is a great service

      Just because you make money from ads doesn't mean it's the only way for "society" to grow fruitfully, in fact I'd argue that it is unnecessary (though heavily relied upon because it is an option). That advertising provides disproportionate support to aspects of society that I don't want to support, and would otherwise perish or wither due to lack of social recognition and discussion

    3. Re:Interesting, but nothing really new by MichaelTheDrummer · · Score: 2, Informative

      But changing the hosts file to block ads on a per domain basis is fairly basic. One of the more useful features of plugins like AdBlockPlus is you can block any particular image/flash animation on a site, whether it is an ad or not. This is great for things like flash banners that sit in front of drop down menus because of rendering bugs on Linux.

    4. Re:Interesting, but nothing really new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In order to receive an ad, I have to actually request the ad (part of how HTTP works). Sure, my browser's default behavior is to request all images/flash/etc, but I can easily instruct it not to.

    5. Re:Interesting, but nothing really new by Atti+K. · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Using ad-blocker is simply stealing. And yes I do call it stealing because you are incurring a cost on the content provider without compensating them. Its no different from stealing at a store with poor security.

      So, is using links/lynx/w3m stealing too? Is turning off images in Firefox and not installing flash stealing too?

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    6. Re:Interesting, but nothing really new by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Luckily for you there are people like me who will share the burden you place on society.

      What do you do? Look at extra ads? What a retard.

      I use adblock+, everyone who's computer I service uses FF + adblock+. I am going to make sure tomorrow I convert at least 5 new people. Just to piss you off.

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    7. Re:Interesting, but nothing really new by TheSunborn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Do you really believe that looking at adds create value for the society????

    8. Re:Interesting, but nothing really new by TuringTest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I never ever have bought a product found through an advert. So I'm actually costing less to the chain of advertising than if I actually downloaded their ads (ok, but more than if I never visited their sites).

      Do you really think they'd be better off if I have actually seen their ads but never acted on them? That would imply being a leech to the people who paid for the ads, isn't it? How is adblock different?

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  5. That's not the browser speed by DreamerFi · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's just the rendering engine they're testing. My browser is called "AdBlock".

  6. Re:Dosen't change the fact that by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nonsense. I'm using Firefox.

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  7. Wrong use case by bazald · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...at least for me. I don't care about optimizations that allow a page to be loaded and rendered 0.1 seconds faster. The lower bound on how fast a page loads is rarely imposed by the browser anyway.

    I often like to use the "Open All in Tabs" feature of Firefox, in which an arbitrarily high number of bookmarks in a folder are opened and loaded simultaneously. I can open and load 15 sites (with adblocking) in under 3 seconds. Chrome seemed to take a second to open just one tab, let alone 15.

    I'm not saying I'm the normal user, but test more than the scripting engine and the rendering system before saying a browser "tops speed tests".

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  8. Speed? by benssol · · Score: 2, Interesting

    and what about the plugins and add-ons we used to in firefox ... I think a long way still ahead

  9. I'll give up a few milliseconds. by Beelzebud · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll give up a few milliseconds for Firefox's features...

    1. Re:I'll give up a few milliseconds. by Woldry · · Score: 4, Informative

      Amen! Whatever time Firefox may lose in rendering is more than made up by features such as having a menu accessible via the keyboard, "Undo close tab", searching for text when I start typing, and extensions like Add to Search Bar, DownThemAll, Add Bookmark Here, and Uppity. Not to mention "runs in Linux"...

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  10. Nonsense by roca · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's some weird stuff in this "article". For example, what does it mean to "include V8 code" in a browser? Even choosing V8 as a benchmark is a mistake. Sunspider is the standard JS benchmark and it's much broader in scope.

    Awarding 10 points for winning a category and then adding up the points to reach a final score is the most statistically bogus "methodology" ever.

    It's nice to see SVG and canvas in benchmarks, but "IE8 will fix that compatibility issue"? Completely untrue, IE8 will not support SVG and canvas. This bit of ignorance makes me worry about the whole piece.

    And as others have noted, comparing the Chrome beta against various-aged releases of other browsers makes little sense.

  11. Adblock or bust by JustAnOtherCodeSerf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Till it's got adblock, I don't care if it renders pages before they exist. I don't care if it makes me breakfast or does my laundry. In short, without adblock, it ain't S**T.

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  12. Why IE7 and not IE8? by Numen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Chrome is the current browser beta from Google, and IE8 is the current browser beta from MS... so why compare Chrome in the same group as IE7?

  13. Who really cares? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Interesting

    OK, maybe it's just me, but browser speed has absolutely not been an issue since the Netscape days. I've never said, "gosh, these pages look great, but they're just being rendered too slowly!" and then abandoned a web browser. The only thing that's an issue is download speed - rendering speed is not even noticable. Is this just me? I get the feeling that the "browser speed" issue that slashdot talks so much about is like some obscure industry metric that is rather meaningless, but still gets brought up in conversation because it's a bright shiny number that people can quote when regurgitating arguments.

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    1. Re:Who really cares? by mattMad · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree to some extent. However, since more and more application functionality (e.g., Google Mail replacing your local email program) is pushed into the browser, performance gets more important again. People just want their web apps as snappy as their local applications.

  14. Why not Konqueror? by Karellen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why does no-one include Konqueror in these tests? It's even available for Windows these days.

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    1. Re:Why not Konqueror? by bcmm · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Don't be stupid.

      Konqueror sucks. On most of the sites I visit, it doesn't render the page properly

      In KDE 4, Konqueror uses effectively the same rendering engine as Safari, and I for one have not been encountering many rendering errors. Which sites misrender for you?

      For that matter, Even Firefox 3.0.3 continuously crashes on my Fedora Core 9 installation.

      The majority of the Firefox codebase is cross-platform. If it crashes on Linux, you can bet it'll crash on Windows too, under similar circumstances*. In my experience, it is equally (un)stable on both platforms.

      I use Konqueror for most things due to it's speed, and Firefox when I have to use Windows, and for the occasional sites which insist on specific browsers or use broken flash-detection scripts (why must sites try to decide whether you can have flash content instead of just sending you the tag and seeing what you do with it)?

      * Barring buggy plugins, that is. For me, Quicktime causes more crashes than any plugins on Linux.

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  15. What's up with the Opera score? by Anonimouse · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How is it that Opera beats Firefox in all but one test (SVG and Canvas) and beats it in the ACID3 and yet still gets placed 3rd? And then he says (despite it getting the highest ACID3 score) that both Opera and IE7 have compatibility issues? WTF?

  16. How come the only beta browser tested was Chrome? by rklrkl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's quite dubious that the only beta browser tested was Chrome, especially when most of the others have publicly available beta versions available for testing. Yes, I understand that the *only* release of Chrome is a beta, but then either Chrome should be disqualified from testing since it's not a final release or other browsers' beta releases should be allowed into the test (why not include both a final and beta release of those in that case, so we can see if there are improvements in the beta?).

    I'd also like to see tests on non-Windows platforms as well, although Chrome scores as badly as IE here - it's *only* available on Windows at the moment and there's been a vague promise of ports to Mac and Linux, but these seem to be predictably dragging on and on.

  17. hey! by Pinchiukas · · Score: 2, Funny

    They didn't test w3m!

  18. Rigged? by Wingsy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it fair for them to run these tests on different machines? If you'll notice, Safari was run on an obsolete Mac Mini, a relatively slow single core laptop in a desktop box. Some poster there had run his own tests with the browsers in question, all on the same machine and he got different results -- Safari was fastest. I think they should have also tested Safari on a standard issue Mac, like a current iMac.

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  19. More Nonsense by blazerw11 · · Score: 2
    More ignorance from the article:

    We tested the version of Firefox (called Minefield) that does include the V8 code and listed those results below our "official" findings.

    Let it be known now and henceforth, Google Chrome IS THE ONLY BROWSER USING V8. Safari's new stuff is SquirrelFish and Mozilla's is TraceMonkey.

    Please know this before you write an article making yourself look foolish.

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  20. A Better Idea by RulerOf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How long till they start making browsers with a "firefox plugin compatible" feature?

    That would be a hack-job to implement on every browser except for Firefox. An illustration of that would be the number of plugins that got bricked from V2 to V3 a few months back.

    Instead, all browsers would be better off electing to support a "Unified Browser Plugin Architecture" that could itself be enabled via a native plugin that fits into existing browsers, and later be built into them.

    Kinda like Java, only without the monstrous JVM.

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  21. Subscribe instead by RulerOf · · Score: 2, Informative

    A more viable option (in the Slashdot case) is to subcsribe if you don't like the ads and wish to better the site.

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  22. Re:Firefox 3.1b with Trace-Monkey by Teilo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Very few FF3.0 plugins will work on 3.1beta.

    Actually, most of them will, if you install the Nightly Tester Tools add-on. You can then force compatibility on any or all of your add-ons.

    YMMV, but in my case, the following work fine in 3.1 beta 1: iMacros, Adblock Plus, DownloadHelper, Firebug, Flashgot, Foxmarks, and Web Developer Toolbar.

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  23. Re:How come the only beta browser tested was Chrom by ergo98 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's quite dubious that the only beta browser tested was Chrome, especially when most of the others have publicly available beta versions available for testing.

    For me, the clearest sign that this article represents technically incompetent me-too "journalism" was made abundantly clear when they said-

    `Obviously, Chrome includes the V8 code and the other browsers do not. We tested the version of Firefox (called Minefield) that does include the V8 code and listed those results below our "official" findings.'

    Minefield doesn't include "V8". They mean "JavaScript JITing", I'm going to presume, but chose a terribly inept way of saying it. It's also a bit embarrassing when they decide to fluff up an article with idolizing -- Lars Bak and his team didn't invent this.

    Then again I knew something was wrong in the preceding sentence where they said that V8 radically improves the JavaScript "load time".

  24. Re:17 extensions?? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 2, Informative

    You don't seriously develop in a browser do you other than for testing purposes??

    You've obviously never used them...

    Granted, I don't actually use 17, I probably don't even use 10, but the ones I use are pretty essential. Firebug is a large part of it -- it means I can see exactly which files are loading from where (and how long they're taking). It means I can see exactly what the DOM tree looks like, and which styles are being applied where, and from what CSS classes. It means I can then edit said CSS inline to see what it looks like -- no more guessing pixel values, I just use the arrow keys to position something, then copy that value into the actual CSS file.

    The Javascript is pretty good, too -- I get a nice console I can type arbitrary code into, I can keep a log, set breakpoints, etc... In so many ways, Firebug brings modern software development tools to the Web.

    Then there's the Web Developer toolbar, which adds an absurd number of tools -- the ability to temporarily disable CSS or JavaScript, for example. It's also nice to know whether a page was rendered in "standards mode" or "quirks mode", and there's even an extension (which I haven't needed) to run an actual validator against that page.

    Then there's Firecookie -- cookie support for Firebug. Easy access to which cookies are being used on this page, and console logs of exactly when they were modified, and to which values, and by which script.

    None of them are necessary, but there's no way I'm giving up Firebug.

    As for surfing - the only extension i have is flash

    Flash isn't an extension, it's a plugin. Not that there's a lot of difference.

    and Ive yet to find a page I couldn't surf

    That's not the whole of it.

    For example, I missed a feature of Konqueror -- ctrl+m to hide the menubar. Most of the time, you don't need it, so why leave it there taking up space? So I got a Firefox extension to hide the menubar, and show it when I press alt.

    I'm sure with heavier Firefox users, stupid little extensions like that account for most of it.

    Then there's the really powerful ones, like Greasemonkey. I can write a bit of Javascript that will run on a given page -- or on a given set of pages, or on every page. If you know anything about Javascript, sit back and think about how powerful that could be. All kinds of things you'd think you need extensions for become simple scripts that anyone can understand.

    Simple, stupid example: Suppose you don't like the "parent" link in this comment. You could write a script to remove it. Something fancier -- maybe add a mouseover "tooltip"-like effect for usernames and userids on Slashdot, which fetches the user's profile via AJAX, and shows you just the bio.

    Basically, Greasemonkey makes it possible for a competent web developer to get rid of just about any annoyance from just about any page -- or add features, or just customize it (want Slashdot to have a blinking red background?) -- with a few lines of Javascript.

    It's a gateway drug -- there's already one site I won't visit outside of Firefox, because of the script I've written for it.

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