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Logitech Makes 1 Billionth Mouse

Smivs writes "Logitech has hailed as a major landmark the production of their one billionth computer mouse. The news comes at a time when analysts claim the days of the mouse are numbered. 'It's rare in human history that a billionth of anything has been shipped by one company,' said Logitech's general manager Rory Dooley. 'Look at any other industry and it has never happened. This is a significant milestone.' The computer mouse will achieve a milestone of its own next week when it turns 40. It was 9 December 1968 when Douglas C. Engelbart and his group of researchers at Stanford University put the first mouse through its paces."

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  1. Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by way2trivial · · Score: 4, Insightful

    McDonalds anyone?

    Sheesh...

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    1. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by junglee_iitk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What about pencil/ballpoint pen companies?

    2. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by Cpt+Redbeard · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My thoughts exactly. I bet we could think of plenty of companies who have shipped far more than a billion of something.

    3. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2, Informative

      Coca-Cola? Pepsi? They've probably sold a billion+ of a variety of their individual product lines (i.e. over 1 billion bottles of Mountain Dew AND over 1 billion bottles of Pepsi Cola), as opposed to Logitech who sold a billion from a category of products that encompasses multiple products.

      Same for Budweiser - I wouldn't be surprised if they've hit 10 billion units or more.

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    4. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by jonbryce · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm pretty sure I read that ARM ship a billion or so of their chips every year. Of course that may not count as they licence their designs to other companies who actually make the things.

      Talking of Coca Cola, if everyone in the world bought a bottle of Coke on average once every 5 years, they would ship a billion bottles a year. I'm pretty sure the figures are much higher than that.

    5. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by xstonedogx · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, I have only indirect evidence of this, but roughly 1 billion seconds ago my parents were getting busy.

    6. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, you need a lot of mice to make a big mac.

    7. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by portscan · · Score: 2, Informative

      see comment below about ARM shipping 1 billion processors last quarter

    8. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by maxume · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wouldn't be surprised if Budweiser ships (far in excess of?) 1 billion units a year (that's only 20 beers for 50 million people, or 50 beers for 20 million people, I'm not real sure how many people are low brow enough to drink Bud, but that seems pretty reasonable).

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    9. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by Smelly+Jeffrey · · Score: 5, Interesting

      does anyone have a clue what was happening 1B seconds ago?

      The Tenerife disaster occurred on March 27, 1977, which is about 1 billion seconds, or 31 years and 251 days, ago.

    10. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by Talderas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Every other example that has been brought up was a consumable rather than a long term product. While you could argue that a mouse is a consumable, it isn't/shouldn't be designed as such. All these other objects you use them, and you throw them away, so you have to get more.

      While the statement was indeed broad and vague, I believe that was the intent of it. So really, find me a single company that has shipped 1 billion units of a non-consumable product. Maybe Hanes with their underwear?

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    11. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by Bandman · · Score: 3, Funny

      cornflakes

    12. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by v1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      there's an industry term called durable goods [wikipedia.org] which I expect is the category Logitec was speaking of. Consumables such as cigarettes, cheeseburgers, ballpoint pens etc, do not fall into this category.

      An ARM processor is also a component, not a finished consumer product, so I would equally count them out of it.

      Once you get those two issues out of the way, Logitec's claim becomes a lot more solid. I'm sure there's a few others out there like them, but not the hundreds or thousands that people are speculating.

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    13. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by sukotto · · Score: 5, Informative

      "A billion hours ago, human life appeared on earth. A billion minutes ago, Christianity emerged. A billion seconds ago, the Beatles changed music. A billion Coca-Colas ago was yesterday morning,"
        -- Robert Goizueta, CEO (1980-1997) Coca-Cola Company

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    14. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by geobeck · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not just the processing, but the design. It's not like someone mixes up a big bowl of ground beef, a few eggs, spices and whatever, then roughly forms round-ish patties before shipping them out.*

      Everything produced for McDonald's is the result of a very stricly controlled manufacturing process to ensure that every meat-like patty, every tallow-spiked fry, every creepily long-lasting chocolate shake is the same to within very strict tolerances, whether you eat it in Miami or Whitehorse.

      Make no mistake; that Quarter Pounder with Orange Dairy-Like Substance(TM) is as much the product of a technical manufacturing process as your Cordless Trackball with Media Whiz-Bang!(TM).

      .

      *That only happens at good burger joints.

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    15. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by h4rm0ny · · Score: 4, Funny

      Make no mistake; that Quarter Pounder with Orange Dairy-Like Substance(TM) is as much the product of a technical manufacturing process as your Cordless Trackball with Media Whiz-Bang!(TM).

      Same nutritional value, mind you.

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    16. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 3, Funny

      find me a single company that has shipped 1 billion units of a non-consumable product. Maybe Hanes with their underwear?

      Believe me, I eat a lot of spicy foods. My Hanes last about as long as a consumable.....

    17. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by vux984 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Has any company that makes electronic/mechanical (complex) devices shipped 1B of anything?

      Seagate claims to have shipped 1 billion hard drives.

      http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=null&vgnextoid=43afb55a61379110VgnVCM100000f5ee0a0aRCRD

    18. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Funny

      Depends what you consider a lot. Obviously you need one to direct the action, and maybe two or three others to gather all the components and.. oh wait. Oh God, that's not what you meant at all, is it? You sick, sick man.

    19. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by fm6 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wouldn't be surprised if Budweiser ships (far in excess of?) 1 billion units a year

      And that's just to Chico State!!

    20. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by Kelbear · · Score: 3, Interesting

      McDonalds ships a buttload of stuff to their chains all around the world. Their supply logistics are pretty damned complex(I'm bidding on their transportation contract right now). Getting the same frenchfries sold in places where they can't grow potatoes isn't easy.

      While the "sameness" of Mcdonalds food is repulsive to some, it's impressive that they manage to achieve such generic sameness in the markets they've established themselves in.

    21. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by RabidOverYou · · Score: 3, Funny

      > Bic sold it's 100 billionth pen back in 2005.

      Congratulations! You're the billionth Slashdot post to misspell its.

    22. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by rk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Try our new 68-button MegaMedia(TM) Mouse with built-in subwoofer!!!

      I just finally threw caution to the wind last year and duct-taped an old mouse on the bottom of my keyboard. 108-button mouse, biatches! Doesn't have a subwoofer, but I still have duct tape left over.

    23. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by Marc+Desrochers · · Score: 2, Funny

      The mouse is probably better for you...

    24. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by Marc+Desrochers · · Score: 5, Funny

      That probably means something more like 976562500 hard drives.

    25. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 2, Funny

      Lay's makes chips, and I'm sure they've shipped over a billion of 'em...

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    26. Re:Any othetr industry?? neve happened? by h4rm0ny · · Score: 4, Funny


      You assume that there isn't any mouse in the burger.

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  2. You'd need fewer mice if they were built to last by glennrrr · · Score: 2, Informative

    A colleague called me to his office the other day. His PowerMac was "locking up" not responsive to clicks. And when he'd reboot the optical drive would eject. Turns out his Logitech USB mouse was stuck in the left click position. (Macs eject their optical disk on restart if the mouse button is clicked.)

  3. One billionth? Ha, that's nothing by necro81 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "It's rare in human history that a billionth of anything has been shipped by one company," said Logitech's general manager Rory Dooley. "Look at any other industry and it has never happened. This is a significant milestone."

    I think McDonald's would disagree with you.

  4. 1 billion is not uncommon for some things by davidwr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Large manufacturers of small parts like screws can easily reach the billion mark in a decade.

    The same goes for "categories" of parts like mice, computers, microprocessors, phones, etc.

    I wonder how many CPUs Intel has shipped? I wonder how many phones the pre-1983-breakup version of AT&T shipped. I wonder how many screws and fasteners a large screw-making company ships in 10 years?

    No, a billion may be a milestone but it's not huge, not when you put it in context.

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    1. Re:1 billion is not uncommon for some things by seanellis · · Score: 4, Informative

      Don't know about Intel, but ARM shipped 1 billion processors last quarter, according to their Q3 results statement.

      Other things that must ship in the billions: screws, nails, paper clips, thumbtacks, staples, sweets (candy), baked beans, soda, LEDs (actually almost any discrete electronic component), copier paper, post-it notes, coins, pens, pencils, bin liners ... it's too easy.

    2. Re:1 billion is not uncommon for some things by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Funny

      Other things that must ship in the billions: screws, nails, paper clips, thumbtacks, staples, sweets (candy), baked beans, soda, LEDs (actually almost any discrete electronic component), copier paper, post-it notes, coins, pens, pencils, bin liners ...

      ... posts nitpicking that quote...

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  5. Re:Do their software drivers by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Oh, I hope so! It'll go great with the CDs from my last 3 malfunctioning Logitech mice.

  6. Good Job Logitech! by purpledinoz · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've pretty much used Logitech mice exclusively since I've stared using a computer. They've consistently provided high-quality, low-priced products. My mouse I use at home is a simple $12 Logitech optical mouse, and it works perfectly. Unfortunately, I'm using a MS mouse at work. I think I will buy another Logitech mouse to replace this one.

    1. Re:Good Job Logitech! by hcmtnbiker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately, I'm using a MS mouse at work. I think I will buy another Logitech mouse to replace this one.

      MS Mice are almost exclusively Logitech OEMs. Why would you replace it with a duplicate?

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  7. Days numbered? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The news comes at a time when analysts claim the days of the mouse are numbered.

    [citation needed]

    No seriously, where is there a mainstream commentator predicting the demise of the mouse, and backing it up with hard data and logic?

  8. how can it be rare when there is an abundance? by jonas_sten · · Score: 4, Funny

    ball bearing balls? bottlecaps? shoes? Bolts? Lesbians!

  9. Toothpicks? by IceCreamGuy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "It's rare in human history that a billionth of anything has been shipped by one company," said Logitech's general manager Rory Dooley. "Look at any other industry and it has never happened. This is a significant milestone."

    Gum? Pencils? Paper? Soft drink? Bag of chips? Stick of RAM? Screwdriver? Television set? Surely some of these items have been sold more than a billion times by a single company...

    1. Re:Toothpicks? by holden+caufield · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ammunition?

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  10. razor blades by tcyun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    i believe that the razor blade manufacturers hit their billionth mark within a decade of beginning production. yes, few companies ship billions- but logitech hit billion from multiple models. razor companies from the same model blade.

  11. Bus mouse by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Funny

    Remember when the "bus mouse" was the cool upgrade over a crappy serial-port mouse, and you had that extra 8-bit ISA card with the funny port on it? IRQs ? I/O ports ? That was back before teenage girls took over the Internet.

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    1. Re:Bus mouse by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Funny

      God damn it I need another 25 pin to 9 pin adaptor, AND I need a gender bender! I wish those manufacturers would standardize... oh wait

            Yeah I remember playing with jumpers and dip switches to avoid IRQ conflicts. Damn I am too old. Funnily enough, cyberspace was a lot quieter back then. The punks couldn't afford it. Looking at the present economy, they won't be able to afford it again soon.

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    2. Re:Bus mouse by powerlord · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not to mention the wonderful years of playing with your config.sys and autoexec.bat file so you could make sure all your drivers loaded right (or the bastardized add-on sound card I got for my first laptop that plugged into the parallel port with a pass-through for the printer, but drivers that needed to be loaded in DOS which squeezed the precious memory even more).

      I think it gave an inherent understanding of the hardware to people who grew up with them (and used them).

      I feel like the people who grew up repairing their cars and bemoaning how automated they have become. :)

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  12. Re:You'd need fewer mice if they were built to las by jeffmeden · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's weird. Why on earth would a Mac user not simply use the supplied Apple brand mouse? Oh, right.

    Speaking to your criticism directly, I have about half a dozen Logitech mice, spanning a decade, that all work flawlessly. The only reason I have bought more since the first one 11 years ago has been to keep pace with technology (optical, wireless, 2d scroll wheel, laser, etc.)

    Then again, it's not like I use mine for grueling tasks like ejecting CDs.

  13. And still no bluetooth trackballs! by danaris · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Come on, you can make, and sell, 1 billion mice; how hard can it be to make a minor variant of the Cordless Optical TrackMan that uses Bluetooth instead of an RF dongle???

    I can't imagine the market is smaller than for some of the weird niche mice I've seen out there...

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  14. Re:What about Microsoft? by purpledinoz · · Score: 3, Funny

    A /. reader admitted to using an MS product! He must have no fear!

  15. Douglas Engelbart 1968 mouse demo video by mj01nir · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Obligatory Douglas Engelbart mouse demo video link:
    http://sloan.stanford.edu/mousesite/1968Demo.html

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    1. Re:Douglas Engelbart 1968 mouse demo video by mj01nir · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bah. They've fiddled with the link:
      http://sloan.stanford.edu/MouseSite/1968Demo.html

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    2. Re:Douglas Engelbart 1968 mouse demo video by maxume · · Score: 5, Informative

      Clicky:

      http://sloan.stanford.edu/MouseSite/1968Demo.html

      Unless you really, really like using tags (or it isn't available...), "Plain Old Text" works pretty well.

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  16. You are our one billionth customer! by nameendingwith · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder if when they ship this one billionth mouse to a customer, they will include in the box a flashing ad telling him that he is the one billionth customer and should click here to claim his prize.

  17. Re:What about Microsoft? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Logitech have been shipping mice since 1981, giving them almost a two decade head start on Microsoft. Their early mice used balls and so needed replacing after a few years. Over the last 26 years, they have made mice that have been rebranded and shipped by numerous OEMs, including Apple, HP and Dell. For most of the '80s and '90s, any serious computer user had a logitech mouse (and less serious ones often had a cheap Logitech mouse with their computer maker's brand on it). Calling them a minority player is like calling Microsoft a minority player in the desktop OS market.

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  18. Yes it is true. Very rare by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Funny
    It's rare in human history that a billionth of anything has been shipped by one company,"

    Yes, a billionth of most things are microscopic in size. So shipping it is quite difficult. Great job logitec.

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  19. Re:Marketshare ? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How do you figure that? If they have shipped a billion mice then that means that there are at most a billion Logitech mice out there. Considering that a lot of their early ball mice are almost certainly no longer in working order, the real number is likely a lot less.

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  20. Re:What about Microsoft? by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm curious to know how many mice Microsoft has shipped; theirs seem to be more plentiful than Logitech's in the wild.

    That's because they pull their own cords and escape to the woods. They're a lot less house-trained than their Logitech counterparts.

  21. Re:You'd need fewer mice if they were built to las by MBGMorden · · Score: 5, Informative

    I too am a big fan of Logitech mice. My main computer rig actually sports a Razer Diamondback these days, but my laptop mouse is Logitech, as are the mice on my workstation and server rack's KVM at work. Over the years I've had countless ones. Like you, I mostly have upgraded to keep pace with technology: moving to one with a scroll wheel, moving to an optical, moving to USB, getting a mouse with more buttons, etc.

    Like all heavy use devices I've had a few failures (I've had 2 Logitech mice wear out on me), but overall compared with other mice I've still noticed them to be of a pretty high quality. When I used to work as a tech at a college many years ago, I can't count how many Microsoft Intellimouses had a scroll wheel that was jammed where it couldn't be moved anymore.

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  22. Re:You'd need fewer mice if they were built to las by jonbryce · · Score: 2, Informative

    Because Steve Jobs only recently relented and allowed a second button on them. Before the mighty mouse, Apple mice were pretty useless creatures.

  23. Re:You'd need fewer mice if they were built to las by orclevegam · · Score: 2, Informative

    Much as I'm loath to admit it, the best mouse I've ever owned was manufactured by Microsoft.

    Logitech however does place a close second. Followed even more closely by virtually every other mouse I've ever owned by any company, I mean, it's a mouse, there's not all that much you can do to set it apart from the rest of the pack. If it moves the pointer around smoothly, has at least 3 buttons and a scroll wheel, and doesn't stick it's as good as at least 90% of the mice (is that even the right term?) out there.

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  24. Mice? by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 4, Funny

    Whoever makes cockroaches passed the billion mark a long time ago. And using a model with very few variations, too.

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  25. Death of the Mouse?! by Androclese · · Score: 5, Informative
    FTFA:

    But sounding the death knell for the device is Gartner analyst Steve Prentice who said "the mouse will no longer be mainstream in three to five years."

    Yeah... right... it won't be mainstream in 3-5 years... sorry, but I call BS.

    Touchscreens and facial recognition software will not replace the mouse in an office environment. It won't replace it for gaming. Hell, it won't replace it period.

    Take gaming as a simple example. When I'm playing WoW, I'm often looking elsewhere, eating a snack, drinking a beer, or talking to my wife who is sitting on the other side of the room... the last thing I'm going to want to do is stare at the screen and make funny faces at it to move the mouse. Sorry, ain't gonna happen.

    Don't get me wrong here; touch screens are a huge boon and will have a place in specialized industries; auto interfaces, shared spaces, Cell Phones, etc.

    But making the claim that it will no longer be mainstream and large companies, lets say HR Block, will drop the mouse and replace everything with a touch screen and facial recognition software is the biggest load of crap I've heard in quote a long time.

  26. I knew that. by Samschnooks · · Score: 2, Informative
    Go to any landfill and you'll see plenty of mice.

    I hope there will be a headline where computer equipment manufacturers are recycling this shit.

  27. My logitech does more by Layth · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Got a new logitech mouse recently. New to me anyway, it's a G5

    Has 2 buttons on it to increase or decrease the mouse sensitivity in real time. I don't play many games these days, but I could see that being very useful for first person shooters.. zoom in with a sniper rifle.. decrease mouse sensitivity at the press of a button ..etc

    Also the mouse has a weight cartridge with adjustable weight, so each user can adjust the physical feel of the mouse to their liking.

    Plus it's laser and my old optical one sucked.

  28. Re:You'd need fewer mice if they were built to las by egomaniac · · Score: 3, Informative

    You are incorrect. The click detection is indeed done by detecting the capacitance of your fingers. I accept that there may be more than one physical microswitch inside the device, but that has nothing to do with left/right-click determination. The only thing that matters is whether your finger is resting on the left half of the device or not.

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  29. Re:What about Microsoft? by UnHolier+than+ever · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft is an excellent mouse-making company. It's a shame people keep complaining about their failed OS sideline.

  30. Re:What about Microsoft? by R_Kulio · · Score: 3, Funny

    As others have mentioned, if you turn over most of the OEM branded mice the come with a computer, you'll see a Logitech logo on it.

    Thanks, I just turned over my lenovo mouse to check, and blinded myself with the laser

  31. who cares... by nimbius · · Score: 2, Interesting

    back in my day when we advertised a product like logitech(c) brand mice we used banners.

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  32. Re:One billionth? Ha, that's nothing by machine321 · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, he meant no other industry has shipped a billion mice.

  33. Re:One billionth? Ha, that's nothing by ConanG · · Score: 4, Funny

    McDonald's has probably shipped a billion mice, too.

  34. Not to be celebrated by Stiletto · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wouldn't call this an event worthy of celebration. These billion mice (along with the billions of other plastic mass-produced products out there) will one day end up in a landfill somewhere, and will take hundreds of years to break down. The major consequence of mass-production is mass-consumption, and the drawback of mass-consumption is mass-disposal.

    I find it a bit sad that a device which, essentially, hasn't changed in 20 years isn't re-used more often. I have 10 year old keyboards and mice I still use.

    I guess it's just part of our "throw away, buy a new one" culture that seems to ignore what happens to things once they're in the bin. Out of sight, out of mind.

    1. Re:Not to be celebrated by molo · · Score: 3, Informative

      While I do agree that mass-disposal is wasteful, the mouse has changed significantly in the last 20 years:

      1. computer interface: RS-232, PS/2, USB
      2. number of buttons
      3. scroll wheel
      4. mechanism: ball mouse with moving parts that wear out, optical mouse with special grid mousepad, modern optical mouse
      5. wireless mice: IR, RF, Bluetooth

      So its not like there hasn't been reasons to upgrade.

      -molo

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  35. You all fail at geek... by Bonteaux-le-Kun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ok, McDonalds, screws, whatever, you got those... But you forgot:

    "Annual production of Lego bricks averages approximately 20 billion per year"

  36. Re:You'd need fewer mice if they were built to las by K'Lyre · · Score: 2, Funny

    Funny. So did my uncle.

  37. Re:You'd need fewer mice if they were built to las by ShadowBlasko · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Much as I'm loath to admit it, the best mouse I've ever owned was manufactured by Microsoft. Logitech however does place a close second. Followed even more closely by virtually every other mouse I've ever owned by any company, I mean, it's a mouse, there's not all that much you can do to set it apart from the rest of the pack. If it moves the pointer around smoothly, has at least 3 buttons and a scroll wheel, and doesn't stick it's as good as at least 90% of the mice (is that even the right term?) out there.

    I bought my Microsoft Trackball optical when logitech stopped making the trackball i liked, and I have never looked back. The software was great (programmable "program dependant" buttons with macros) (If you stuck to the version 4.1) I even bought 5 of them from Microcenter when I learned they were being discontinued.
    I still have 4 new in the box, and I see they are going for about $150 on ebay now.

    The one I am using right now is... 4 years old I think.

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  38. Re:What about Microsoft? by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Informative

    their first mouse was a rebranded logitech.

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  39. Re:You'd need fewer mice if they were built to las by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd imagine that the manufacturing in all cases is done by Wun Hung Lo Light Industry and Pre-Used Organs Conglomerate in China. Branding is largely superficial.

    As an aside though, the Microsoft Explorer Trackball was a Microsoft custom job that Logitech have never produced a direct competitor for. I mention this because, being Microsoft, they killed it off despite its popularity in its niche. Used examples are now selling for $250 and rising on eBay, and there's even a market for cleaning kits and maintenance marketed specifically at this device; I doubt we'll ever see any particular Logitech branded pointing device being missed as much.

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  40. What are we going to do tonight, Brain? by hcdejong · · Score: 3, Funny

    Same thing we do very night, Pinky: try to take over the world! You see, I have commissioned a company by the name of Logitech to deliver ONE BILLION mice, an army large enough to overwhelm any defence system known to man.
    [ding dong]
    Ah, that will be my delivery. Soon, Pinky, the world will be ours for the taking.

    ...

    Crikey, Brain, these mice are kind of odd. Why are their tails so long, and what is this hard shell [toc] all around them?

  41. Re:You'd need fewer mice if they were built to las by brianosaurus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Holy crap you're right! My parents have a Mighty Mouse on their iMac. I've been trying to right click with it for 2 weeks, with no luck, and its been driving me nuts. I just went upstairs and tried by lifting my index finger when I clicked, and voila: context menu! My reaction: "stupidest mouse ever."

    This has to be the worst human interface design ever. This goes way beyond non-intuitive and is in face counter-intuitive. Why should I have to lift one finger to press with another? Point-and-click is now point-lift-and-click? Its going to take forever to explain this to my mom!

    Seriously, who comes up with this crap? And how does it ever get past the testing stages? Does Apple deliberately retard their accessories in order to support a strong third party market?

    I wish Apple would stop sacrificing function for obscure coolness. "Check it out, my Apple mouse can tell where my fingers are! Sure its a pain in the ass to use it, but IT CAN TELL WHERE MY FINGERS ARE!!!"

    "Yeah? Well my Logitech mouse works right." Suck it, Steve.

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  42. Re:What about Microsoft? by Sobrique · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I've just flipped over my 'dell' mouse at work to check.

    Can just about make out "Suzhou Logitech Electronics Co. Ltd. Made in China" in very tiny fontsize.

    So with my exhaustive sampling, I can say definitively that Logitech products are more ubiquitous than I thought.

  43. Re:One billionth? Ha, that's nothing by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't think consumables can be fairly included in this topic. You could talk about bottles of milk, cans of oil, etc. All of those get consumed. I think the difference is that this is a nonconsumable, like a car or an air conditioner.

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  44. Millard Fillmore? Please explain by Bayoudegradeable · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why the Milliard (sic) Fillmore tag? What does the 13th president have to do with this. Sorry for my noob question...

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  45. Re:What about Microsoft? by nategoose · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously. I've switched from Logitech to MS trackballs and keyboards, though Linux is my OS of choice.

  46. Re:You'd need fewer mice if they were built to las by robthebloke · · Score: 4, Funny

    In fairness, they've improved it a lot for the mighty mouse 2. All you need to do for a right click, is to point your mouse at the screen, and slap your forehead with your left hand until the context menu appears.

  47. Re:plenty of ways to differentiate it by TheLink · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The G7 is also rather expensive IMO.

    So to answer the OP's: "there's not all that much you can do to set it apart from the rest of the pack"

    Something like the G7 but a lot cheaper would set it apart.

    Being a wired mouse is fine. The wires don't bother me much, expensive does bother me :).

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  48. Re:You'd need fewer mice if they were built to las by genner · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's fun to become agitated AND I learned an OSX function I never new about ;-)

    That's the Mac experince in a nutshell.