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British Royal Navy Submarines Now Run Windows

meist3r writes "On his Government blog, Microsoft's Ian McKenzie announced today that the Royal Navy was ahead of schedule for switching their nuclear submarines to a customized Microsoft Windows solution dubbed 'Submarine Command System Next Generation (SMCS NG)' which apparently consists of Windows 2000 network servers and XP workstations. In the article, it is claimed that this decision will save UK taxpayers £22m over the next ten years. The installation of the new system apparently took just 18 days on the HMS Vigilant. According to the BAE Systems press release from 2005, the overall cost of the rollout was £24.5m for all eleven nuclear submarines of the Vanguard, Trafalgar and Swiftsure classes. Talk about staying with the sinking ship."

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  1. BSOD by sleeponthemic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Blue Submarine of Death

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    1. Re:BSOD by s1lverl0rd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Having Bliss as a wallpaper below sea level would irritate me a lot.

    2. Re:BSOD by TheLink · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about this instead? http://www.flickr.com/photos/rowandw/2276721446/

      Seems more appropriate given the topic.

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    3. Re:BSOD by Hanners1979 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Considering it's a customised Windows-based solution, I would hope that they've at least made it the Yellow Submarine of Death.

    4. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      On my work PC (I don't work in I.T at the moment) the Sysinternal screensaver BSOD was installed as part of the build. Don't ask me why.

      I set it as my default screensaver and thought it was a bit of fun, that is until when I was away on a business trip (trying to RDesktop in) and there was no response from my PC.

      One of the I.T helpdesk muppets had noticed the BSOD on my monitor, not realised it was a screensaver and took my PC away and reimaged it.

      I wasn't happy!

    5. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nah... It's actually Royal Blue Screen Of Death

    6. Re:BSOD by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Frogmen DUH!

      Just jack into one of the open Ethernet jacks on the outside of the sub!

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    7. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      SIGINT antennas? That must be why they are using Windows. On Unix, you could sink the sub with ctrl+c...

    8. Re:BSOD by ptelligence · · Score: 5, Funny

      I believe the proper term is "WarDiving"

    9. Re:BSOD by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 3, Funny

      We all live on a blue-screened submarine,
      A blue-screened submarine,
      A blue-screened submarine.
      etc.

  2. How deep? by bryan1945 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The last time I drove my car into a lake the windows didn't last past 15 feet. Of course my car is American, and those Brits have that funky metric system, so who knows?

    (Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week)

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    1. Re:How deep? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      ... those Brits have that funky metric system, so who knows?

      (Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week)

      Part of the joke? You know, then, the measurement system used in the US is called the English System for a reason, right? OK, just checking.

    2. Re:How deep? by Mark+Hood · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually we call it 'Imperial' units.

      Damn colonials are getting uppity again, Ponsenby...

      Mark

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    3. Re:How deep? by jabithew · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...I know a pint...

      Ah, a fine university education at work.

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    4. Re:How deep? by ray-auch · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sorry, but that is clearly a fail, not a fine (british) university education.

      It's _pints_. Plural. Always.

    5. Re:How deep? by Pvt_Ryan · · Score: 5, Funny
      I should correct that:

      "Launch the Nukes", "Sir yes sir", "Sir I have clicked the button, however it is now prompting me 'Are you sure you really want to launch Nuke?'"
      *Presses YES*
      "But are you really really really sure?"
      *Presses YES again*
      "Do you want windows to remember this choice in future?"
      *Presses NO*
      *paperclip appears*
      "Would you like help 'Launching Nuke'?"
      *Presses No*
      *Walks to the main hatch in dispair*
      *Opens main hatch while 100' below the surface using manual leaver to avoid that damn paperclip*

  3. Obvious reason by cjfs · · Score: 5, Funny

    The navy liked their version of minesweeper best.

    1. Re:Obvious reason by savuporo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nevermind the Minesweeper, i hear it runs all variants of Code Red with no installation hassles too.

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    2. Re:Obvious reason by ijakings · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah so your irish!

  4. Won't work by this+great+guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean who in a sane mind would want windows on a submarine ? It's not like there is anything interesting to see in the darkness of the depths.

    1. Re:Won't work by reboot246 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, what's next? Screen doors?

  5. Classic title! by tryfan · · Score: 4, Funny

    From "Das Boot" to "ReBoot".

  6. HMS Bob by Snufu · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tech support: "Can you tell us the problem with your submarine?"
    HMS Bob: "Das Not Boot."

  7. Re:save UK taxpayers 22m? by geekgirlandrea · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't you mean gnuke? :)

  8. other news by Jeek+Elemental · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wolfgang Petersen is reportedly preparing to make "Das Reboot", a (very) short sequel.

  9. Sometimes, I just switch it off and on again... by earthloop · · Score: 3, Funny

    That'll explain this recent Royal Navy advert.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aDHPCr5m4ko

  10. The subs the least of our problems by Evil_Ether · · Score: 5, Funny

    I find the words Windows and nuclear been uttered in the same sentence very disconcerting.

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    1. Re:The subs the least of our problems by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh yeah? How about "The USAF accidentally dropped a nuclear bomb in Redmond, WA that fortunately didn't explode, but damaged the building of famous Windows OS maker Microsoft, instantly crushing CEO Steve Ballmer and the entire marketing team into a pulp."

      Feel better now?

    2. Re:The subs the least of our problems by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not yet ... could you have the entire SCO executive team visiting too?

  11. Re:Learning from prior mistakes by philspear · · Score: 5, Funny

    They did indeed learn from past mistakes and are remarkably forward-thinking. They made a boat that was doomed to fail miserably, named it the Titanic, and said it was unsinkable. Many years later there was a movie made about it that was a box-office smash hit. They're now seeding an even bigger future movie by making certain that ALL their boats will sink.

  12. So.. by powerslave12r · · Score: 3, Funny

    ..the Blue Screen of Death isn't just a namesake anymore?

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  13. I am relieved! by Erikderzweite · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I can sleep safer knowing that if the Brits are about to launch a nuclear missile from a submarine and start WWIII, a UAC window will pop up asking if they are sure about it.

    1. Re:I am relieved! by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Funny
      You seem to be trying to launch a nuclear attack. Would you like to do one of the following:
      • Blast Russia of the face of the earth
      • Blast Iran of the face of the earth
      • Launch a single nuke at China from within Pakistani territorial waters. Let them sort it out!
      • I'm an Al-Quaida Infiltrator. I'll target London, New York and Washington please
  14. Clippy by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny
    It looks like you're trying to launch a nuke. Would you like me to:
    • Try to talk you out of it
    • Help you start armaggeddon
    • Hide under the table
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  15. what do you want to do? by thhamm · · Score: 4, Funny

    "hello! i am your friendly helpagent clippy! what do you want to do? wage nuclear war? or just launch a conventional cruise missile? learn how to do that here."

  16. Not a nice environment to work in by Kupfernigk · · Score: 5, Funny
    I was talking to a retired submariner only last week, a former 1st Lt (exec equivalent), and he commented that being in a submarine is like being in prison, only with no visitors. Most submariners hate it. Think about it: you are in a steel box which is actually quite fragile, and your life is entirely dependent on the decisions made by one man. On a surface ship you may have some influence on your fate (shooting down an enemy aircraft with a gun or a missile, deciding exactly when and where to abandon ship) but in a sub you have no control at all.

    Now think about a corporate drone using Windows. Your desktop is locked down, updates are rolled out by IT. If your machine is taken over by an IE exploit, the Exchange server fails, etc. etc., there is nothing you can do about it.

    Conclusion: Windows is the appropriate operating system for submarines.

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  17. Here's where the real savings are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Summary fails to mention, and sort of implies the opposite; The cost saving is down to using off the shelf hardware, not switching to windows.

    Windows made the submarines on-the-shelf hardware, they'll be sitting pretty on some reef shelf in no time.

    Mr. Malda, I'm submitting the news article for 2009-01-19 ahead of time:
    Microsoft's Ian McKenzie announced today that the entire Royal Navy Nuclear Submarine fleet had sunk due to a Windows buffer overflow. HMS Vigilant's captain, Commander Bob Anstey, said: "I heard my 1st officer shouting 'Captain, Be SOD, Overflow!', so I yelled at him: 'Get the caulking guns ready, you SOD!' and he just gave me a blank stare and said: 'We cannot caulk this one, sir! Vigilant's a goner!' Well, bugger me!"

    In other news:
    HMS Vigilant's captain, Commander Bob Anstey allegedly accidentally fired a nuclear missile at Redmond, Washington in an attempt to complete the Windows Activation of the newly installed 'Submarine Command System Next Generation' customized Windows XP system. "It was a bug, yes, that's it. Some kind of unfortunate bug triggered the 19-step launch sequence," said Commander Anstey. Nobody at or near Microsoft could be reached for a comment.

  18. It's Blue!!! It's Blue!!! by Genda · · Score: 3, Funny

    In the great coordinate plain of life, we seem to have a situation where the line tracing British IQ and the line tracing the mortality of the human race are getting perilously close. I've always taken comfort in the fact that mouth breathers and knuckle draggers seemed to remain alive almost in spite of their gross stupidity. Now a bunch of twits from the dept. of silly walks decides that the most expedient means of managing a nuclear force is with an operating system whose answer to digital indigestion is at best rebooting and at worst reinstallation. I can only imagine how that might impact (and I use the word "IMPACT" in all it's most unpleasant possible meanings) a critical nuclear encounter.

    Some additional new possible acronyms;

    DBSD ----- Deep Blue Sea of Death
    BGAD ----- Blue Glass Ashtray of Death
    RBGD ----- Radioactive Blue Glow of Death
    BSOA ----- Blue Screen of Armageddon
    O-SHT ---- The Missile Ranger is Turning Blue Because Windows Has Wedged and He Can't Abort the Missile Launch!!!

  19. Useful on a sub by MadUndergrad · · Score: 4, Funny

    See, this is actually an elegant solution, as the bloat will act as a redundant buoyancy system in case of the inevitable blue-screen crush.

  20. Sinking ship? by sepelester · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sounds like sub standard software to me

  21. Windows Security Certification by ei4anb · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot people often said that a Windows computer is only secure when encased in a steel box and sunk beneath the sea. So, why complain now?

  22. In Soviet Russia by Bl4d3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Everybody would be laughing out loud....

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  23. Re:"18 Days" by lga · · Score: 4, Funny

    It didn't take 18 days to install windows. It took 18 days to re-cable the whole submarine with an ethernet network, replace all the computers, AND install windows. I'd like to see you rewire a submarine in that time...

    I can't believe I just defended the military.

  24. Re:Learning from prior mistakes by ray-auch · · Score: 5, Funny

    > ... making certain that ALL their boats will sink

    These boats are submarines. They'd be broken if they _didn't_ sink.

  25. Re:Learning from prior mistakes by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, the USS Yorktown was an actual real life fail boat?

  26. Das Reboot by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just came here to say "Das Reboot" in a random place.

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    1. Re:Das Reboot by sskagent · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or my favorite "Dos Boot"