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Using Lasers To Generate Random Numbers Faster

Pranav writes "Using semiconductor lasers, scientists from Takushoku University, Saitama University, and NTT Corporation achieved random number rates of up to 1.7 gigabits per second, which is about 10 times higher than the second-best rate, produced using a physical phenomenon. Future work may center on devising laser schemes that can achieving rates as high as 10 Gbps."

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  1. Re:Attention Slashdotters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new levelheaded overlord.

  2. A Solution in Search of a Problem by Wrath0fb0b · · Score: 4, Informative

    Has anyone out there actually had their system bottlenecked by lack of random numbers? I had thought that the bottleneck in serving large amounts of SSL content was processing the asymmetric part of the cyrpto -- hence the need for SSL accelerator cards. It's a nice invention and a creative application of physical process, but I really want to see just one case where this would be lead to a substantial benefit.

    As an aside, computer simulations always use pseudoRNGs like the Mersenne Twister[1]. For a reasonable exponent (I use 19937 in my simulations), this results in a period > 10^6000 and virtually no correlations between adjacent calls. The notion of a computational physicist using a real physical RNG is laughable.

    [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersenne_twister

    1. Re:A Solution in Search of a Problem by Yetihehe · · Score: 5, Interesting
      From your link to wikipedia:

      Unlike Blum Blum Shub, the algorithm in its native form is not suitable for cryptography. Observing a sufficient number of iterates (624 in the case of MT19937) allows one to predict all future iterates.

      So MT may be good enough for computational physicists, but not for strong cryptography.

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    2. Re:A Solution in Search of a Problem by hweimer · · Score: 5, Informative

      Has anyone out there actually had their system bottlenecked by lack of random numbers?

      I know some guys doing quantum Monte Carlo simulations. And yes, fast RNGs are crucial for their algorithms.

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  3. Obligatory quote by jspenguin1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance." -- Robert R. Coveyou

  4. Re:Attention Slashdotters... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new levelheaded overlord.

    Yeah, well. The Frankenstein Monster was levelheaded too.

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  5. FTFA: by lobiusmoop · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Fields and applications that could benefit from their work are numerous, including computational models to solve problems in nuclear medicine, computer graphic design, and finance."

    This explains a great deal.

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  6. Re:Obligatory joke by ionix5891 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    stop reading DIGG

  7. Re:Attention Slashdotters... by Dachannien · · Score: 5, Funny

    Austin Powers came out over 10 years ago. At some point (and that point was years ago), making references to it every time you see either the word shark or the word laser becomes old. It's really not funny.

    Shhh!

    Just know that I've got a whole bag of shhh! with your name on it.

  8. Don't believe everything you read by Frequency+Domain · · Score: 5, Informative
    First off, this is old news -- the article is copyright 2007.

    Next, the article claims...

    Generating random numbers using physical sources -- which can be as simple as coin-flipping and tossing dice -- are preferred over other methods, such as computer generation, because they yield nearly ideal random numbers: those that are unpredictable, unreproducible, and statistically unbiased.

    This is garbage -- there are applications where people prefer physical sources, but those of us doing simulation work realized long ago that good algorithmic sources are far better for our needs: 1) It's mighty hard to debug a complex simulation model without reproducibility; 2) You can use the reproducibility to induce covariance between runs, greatly reducing the standard error of your estimates for a given sampling effort; 3) The distributions of algorithmically generated pseudo-random numbers are provably uniform, whereas for physical sources the best you know is that they haven't (yet) failed a hypothesis test for uniformity. Finally, the last statement about being "statistically unbiased" is utter nonsense -- unbiasedness is a property of an estimator, not a distribution.

  9. Re:Attention Slashdotters... by alx5000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do not look into RNG with remaining eye!

    (Hah! Bet you didn't see that one coming!)

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  10. scary by ascari · · Score: 4, Funny

    I suspect encountering the words "random" and "laser" in the same sentence would be rather disconcerting to an eye surgeon. Maybe I'm off topic...

  11. Re:Attention Slashdotters... by elFarto+the+2nd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nope, I had already looked at 2 lasers previously.

  12. Doing my part for science by Snorfalorpagus · · Score: 5, Funny

    247

  13. Re:Attention Slashdotters... by amRadioHed · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, this is slashdot in a nutshell:

    "Help! I'm in a nutshell! How did I get into this nutshell? Look at the size of this bloody great big nutshell."

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