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Steve Jobs' Macworld Keynotes, 1998-2008

Ian Lamont writes "The Industry Standard has put together a collection of video highlights from Steve Jobs' Macworld keynotes since his return to Apple in the late 1990s. It's interesting to watch. Jobs was basically able to turn tech product demonstrations into convincing consumer spectacles that made even the simplest product feature — such as the handle on the clamshell iBook — seem innovative and utterly desirable. And while his appearance changed greatly over the years (compare his 1998 iMac demonstration with his "iPod Mini" keynote in 2004, when he was reportedly trying to treat cancer with a special diet), his enthusiasm never waned. Of course, he may make appearances at Apple's WWDC or other events, but a Macworld expo with Phil Schiller headlining just won't be the same."

108 comments

  1. 1997? by Anthony_Cargile · · Score: 2, Informative

    What about the one from 1997, when he came back from Apple after leaving/getting fired?

    1. Re:1997? by Anthony_Cargile · · Score: 4, Informative

      Macworld Boston - that's the one. If the collection starts from 1998 then it must not include this one.

      More information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_jobs#Return_to_Apple (doesn't mention the keynote, but although the collection starts from 1998 he actually came back in 1996, announcing it in 1997 at Macworld Boston.)

    2. Re:1997? by mike260 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Macworld Boston - that's the one. If the collection starts from 1998 then it must not include this one [youtube.com].

      Lol, the spontaneous applause whenever anyone mentions directors resigning tells a story in itself.

    3. Re:1997? by CrackedButter · · Score: 2, Informative

      The one thats always missing is the one where he introduces the original Bondi Blue iMac, there is a 7 minute version on youtube but its not complete.

    4. Re:1997? by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 0, Troll

      he actually came back in 1996, announcing it in 1997

      I'm surprised he didn't announce it two years in advance. After all, isn't that what they do with their products?

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      Only three things are certain; death, taxes, and apocryphal quotations - Ben Franklin.
    5. Re:1997? by mike260 · · Score: 1

      Eh, no, not really.

      In fact, they seem to strongly prefer to only announce products once they're ready to ship (or very nearly so), the sole exception I can think of being the OS.

  2. An old dude in a turtleneck... by txoof · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If 10 years ago you would have told me that a 40 something balding man in a black turtleneck could make consumer computer technology look svelte, I wouldn't have believed you. I still find it hard to believe today. For all the weirdness, secrecy and--reportedly--heavy handedness, Jobs does some amazing work highlighting the positive aspects of Apple's products.

    I think it's his confidence and an earnest belief that the product has been engineered to the highest standards that helps him be such an effective salesman. Bill Gates tried to capture some of that same humanity and enthusiasm in his Seinfeld commercials and somehow failed miserably. Perhaps it's Gate's lack of a publicaly accessible side. Or it could be that he's just a robot sent from the future.

    Whatever you think about Apple (expensive, overly trendy, defectivebydesign, overly lawyered, Lord Job's GIFT to his children), Jobs does a pretty amazing job of selling it. My girlfriend pointed out that during his introduction of the iPhone, he not only enumerated the features of the device, he also taught everybody how it works. That's a pretty deft presentation.

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    1. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Albert+Sandberg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What do we know, perhaps he's doing his absolutely best to highlight the bad sides of apple products as well, just that there isn't really any in the field(s) they are operating?

      You don't buy a mac to run a server, you buy it to be creative, and I fail to see the drawbacks of such a purchase.

      I have still to own my own mac, but I probably will in the future, because everyone I know who bought one tells me how sweet they are to use, and why wouldn't I trust my friends? After all, what I've seen from it it delivers.

      Just having a hard time leaving linux, I guess I will have to multiboot :-)

    2. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Funny

      a 40 something balding man in a black turtleneck

      that's a terrible mischaracterization. He's a 50-something balding man in a black turtleneck

    3. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by txoof · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You don't buy a mac to run a server, you buy it to be creative, and I fail to see the drawbacks of such a purchase.

      That's exactly why I bought into macs. That and I couldn't bear to upgrade from XP to Vista with a new laptop purchase. I use my macbook for school (as a teacher) and I was doing all my photographic developing on it. I couldn't handle the terrible color consistency on the itty-bitty screen so I upgraded to an iMac. I do most of my school related work on the lappy and use the desktop for all my photography.

      I can't get away from linux though. I have a linux box running in the next room as a print/web/music server. It also manages all the local and remote backups. The darwin side of OS X is also pretty awesome. I get to pretend that I know what the hell I'm doing and hack around in the command line and feel like a sys-admin.

      As for the "bad sides" of Apple products, there's plenty that Jobs doesn't bother to mention. Like the iron grip Apple has on the iphone appstore, poor material quality on the macbook line (the keyboard deck and backsides are all cracking and crazing-mine has a razor sharp edge right where my right wrist rests). His strength is to make all the good qualities sound so sexy, you're willing to ignore those nasty ones. I sure did when I bought the 3G iphone. I love what the iphone does, but to be perfectly honest, my old Nokia 6000 series had a vastly better call quality and at a fraction of the price ($50).

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      This one's tricky. You have to use imaginary numbers, like eleventeen... --Hobbes
    4. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by cmacb · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of course the fact that his demos don't regularly crash midway through helps a lot.

      At similar Microsoft events the "tension in the air" is everyone anticipating the blue screen of death with every mouse click.

    5. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by nathan.fulton · · Score: 3, Funny

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    6. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Of course the fact that his demos don't regularly crash midway through helps a lot.

      Its almost as if he spends a couple of days on testing before the event. Imagine doing that amount of effort to avoid appearing an idiot in front of millions of people.

    7. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Albert+Sandberg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, about the apple store. It's okay that they do what they want with it to withold a certain quality BUT on the other side of that coin they should allow users to install whatever they want on their phones (even if this introduces virus threats).

      It's not like microsoft allows open source programs from their windows update do they?

      And yes, they have drawbacks such as the locked in iphone 3g, but you know what: you don't HAVE to buy it you know...

    8. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Albert+Sandberg · · Score: 1

      Alright, just give me your credit card details and I'll be on my way...

    9. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 1

      He's starting to sound like the elusive fifth Wiggle.

    10. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Stormwatch · · Score: 5, Funny

      He's kind of like a priest. "Thou Mac is holy!" Everybody buys into it. Wait, would Jobs, in the Mac world, be the priest, or God Himself?

      He can't be God, everyone knows Woz is God.

    11. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by FloydTheDroid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your post is right on the money. I always come away from Jobs' demos with the same confidence I get from one of my friends telling me about a product they love. He follows a very simple formula to do this. During the keynotes he'll be giving the usual product spiel that you would expect. But then he does a demo and shows you that it's not all talk. They actually have a working product which is simple enough for the CEO of a fortune 100 company to demo but it's also simple enough for your parents too.

      It's obvious that Jobs uses his company's product unlike those pesky auto execs who probably drive golf carts more often than they drive their classic European sports cars. Sorry, was that too bitter?

    12. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hey now, lets be fair. It was a Win98 demo after all. Anybody who has worked with Win9x for any length of time knows that you could plug in the same device 100 times and on the 101st it would scream, shit itself and die. So they could do testing all they wanted and it could still do that. And hey, it could have been worse, he could have been demoing WinME which would shit itself and die without any user interaction whatsoever. Gotta look on the bright side, you know?

      I did looove the look of terror on the assistants eyes for just a second when it blue screened in front of Bill. You could tell he was thinking "Oh shit, I am SO fired it ain't even funny."

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    13. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by linhares · · Score: 3, Funny

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    14. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by badasscat · · Score: 1

      I have still to own my own mac, but I probably will in the future, because everyone I know who bought one tells me how sweet they are to use, and why wouldn't I trust my friends? After all, what I've seen from it it delivers.

      My next laptop will probably be a Macbook. Not because Macs are so "sweet" to use, but because they are less bad than modern Windows-based PC's.

      I use a Mac at work almost exclusively. To say it works "intuitively", as Apple fans often do, is overstating things at best. It works intuitively if you already know how to use a Mac. There are some really basic things that I expect to be able to do on any computer that I still can't get used to not being able to do on a Mac. Stuff like basic file management (delete, copy, etc.) in file dialogue windows - can't do it on a Mac. You need to back out to the Finder, do your file management, then re-open the dialogue. Renaming a file requires an imprecisely measured long button press on the mouse button (which if you miss ends up opening the file), or clicking the "get info" option in the pop-up menu. There's no simple "rename" option! Stuff like that drives me absolutely batty on Macs.

      Also, stuff that MS gets vilified for - like running a billion background processes on startup and hogging resources - Apple seems to get away with unscathed. Nobody complains about many of the same things in Mac OSX as they will rail endlessly against in Windows. The fact is the two OS's have a lot of the exact same shortcomings.

      But I will say that Vista has really soured me on buying a new PC (I am using it right now on my new laptop, and I absolutely hate it), and OSX is much better at handling real-time apps like music recording, which I can't even do on the PC I just bought due to OS/driver latency. So my next laptop's going to be a Mac. It doesn't hurt that they're built very well, which most computers these days aren't - one thing I will say about Apple is that their hardware is top quality stuff. (I do have an iPod, and whatever some people say about them these days, mine's been going strong for about 4 years and is a lot more of a tank than it looks.)

      Apple products have their pros and cons - probably more pros than cons, but still, the cons do exist. Steve Jobs has been a master at emphasizing the pros and basically making it seem like anyone who even brings up any of the cons is an idiot, or somebody who just "doesn't get it". I credit him with that. I still don't think he's a very good software engineer... but then I guess he never claimed to be.

    15. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      What do we know, perhaps he's doing his absolutely best to highlight the bad sides of apple products as well, just that there isn't really any in the field(s) they are operating?

      The kool-aid was strong when you drunk it, I guess - wow. "There really isn't any bad side to any Apple products across the board".

    16. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by spintriae · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You don't buy a mac to run a server, you buy it to be creative

      Are you kidding me? You BUY a Mac to BE creative? Anybody who actually believes that must not have a creative bone in their body if they don't understand that mindless mass market consumption doesn't fuel creativity. A painter buys a brush to express creativity, not to "be creative." And a truly creative painter doesn't need that brush, certainly not one with a shiny white logo on it. Picaso would not be more or less creative if you gave him a Mac instead of a brush, and giving him a PC instead of a Mac would have been outright irrelevant. The Beatles, who recorded Sgt. Pepper on 4-track tape, would not have been creatively hindered by using Cubase on Windows over Garage Band on OSX, even if they did get BSoDs everyday, which they wouldn't unless they were running Win98.

      DISCLAIMER: This reply was posted on a Macbook Pro, therefore, any independent thought expressed in this post could not have been expressed on a less creative hunk of plastic and wires and is therefore the copyright of Apple, Inc. © 2009 All rights reserved.

    17. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Albert+Sandberg · · Score: 1

      to express, then.

    18. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Have+Brain+Will+Rent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Geez yeah, I mean how could an old dude make anything look good? Especially stuff like technology that only the young can really relate to? And a balding old dude at that? And 40???? Man that's beyond old that's ancient! The mind fairly boggles!!! Makes me think of the last line in the old movie Wild In The Streets.

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    19. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about browsing the Internet? Checking email? Writing documents for school? Downloading porn? Do the artistic elite use their holy Macs for those sorts of things or is that considered blasphemy on par with masturbating to Jesus?

    20. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Stormwatch · · Score: 4, Informative

      Renaming a file requires an imprecisely measured long button press on the mouse button (which if you miss ends up opening the file), or clicking the "get info" option in the pop-up menu. There's no simple "rename" option!

      Select the file to be renamed. PRESS THE "ENTER" KEY. Type the new name. Press the enter key again, or click anywhere else.

    21. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Funny

      that's a terrible mischaracterization. He's a 50-something balding man in a black turtleneck

      That's a terrible mischaracterization. He's a 50-something balding man in a black mock turtleneck.

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    22. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1, Informative

      And yes, they have drawbacks such as the locked in iphone 3g, but you know what: you don't HAVE to buy it you know...

      Other than a contract, the iPhone 3G is fairly "free" - you don't have to just get apps from the iTunes App Store - jailbreaking has worked on them almost from day 1. With Cydia and Installer, making your app public is also fairly simple.

      Oh, and today, if your SIM is fairly simple, there is a soft-unlock for it, so almost any SIM card can work (exceptions are those that are PIN locked, and SIMs with apps on them (sim toolkit), you'll have to hot-plug the card.

    23. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do. People just dont talk about them.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnVUvW42CUA ..

      Everyone is just jealous of Microsoft because of their superior products. Apple has yet to create any form of enterprise level reliable software. Not a single one. There are hundreds of thousands of windows servers that go just fine for years without any problems.

      p.s.
      Please go ahead and quote bits of my reply and twist the meaning and add some funny comments. I'd expect nothing less from the slashdot elite..

    24. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by SerpentMage · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My God techies don't get out much do they...

      Ever heard of a company called NOKIA????

      Do you know what Nokia made before they became the Juggernaut that they are today? Rubber Boots, TV's!

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia

      The original CEO who transformed Nokia is long gone, but Nokia is still creating the products that they are.

      The key with Nokia and the CEO is that he instilled a new way of thinking. Think HP, and how they used to think and do things. This is exactly what is going on with Apple.

      Steve Jobs was Steve Jobs, and at times he failed. Think Next... And think some of the early products like Newton. But he stuck with his vision and instilled ideas. Now Apple has people who fulfilled that vision.

      Do you REALLY think Steve Jobs was the only thinker? Let me tell you about a secret about Nokia. There are several brainchilds there. These guys are completely eclectic and all they care about are design. I once tried to get one of them to speak at a conference and his answer was, "not interested..." I offered a keynote to him and he said, "naa..."

      There are those people at Apple, if only people went beyond the facade of Steve Jobs...

      --

      "You can't make a race horse of a pig"
      "No," said Samuel, "but you can make very fast pig"
    25. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Renaming a file requires an imprecisely measured long button press on the mouse button (which if you miss ends up opening the file), or clicking the "get info" option in the pop-up menu. There's no simple "rename" option!

      Select the file to be renamed. PRESS THE "ENTER" KEY. Type the new name. Press the enter key again, or click anywhere else.

      Alternatively, just click the icon, then click the file name, and type the new name. That gets rid of the risk of double-clicking.

    26. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or nudge the mouse sideways, then rename the file or folder.

    27. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know about call quality - we've been blessed in the UK with many crappy mobile phones with terrible call quality. The iPhone is about the best of the ones I've tried (various Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Treos) over the last few years.

    28. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      If 10 years ago you would have told me that a 40 something balding man in a black turtleneck could make consumer computer technology look svelte, I wouldn't have believed you.

      I would. People were gullible before that, they were gullible then and they're gullible now.

      And it's a scientific fact that people are getting more gullible at an average rate of around 1.5% per year.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    29. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1, Troll

      Alternatively, just click the icon

      Which button? Oh sorry, it's a Mac. My bad.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    30. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by mdwh2 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      If we're going to judge Windows on a completely different operating system (Windows 98 - as noted here, "NT didn't crash, however, despite its much earlier beta state."; since you don't know, NT 5 became Windows 2000, from which Vista is descended from), then it's fair game to judge OS X by the shambles that was classic MacOS. So, wake me up when MacOS has finally managed simple features such as multitasking...

    31. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And a truly creative painter doesn't need that brush, certainly not one with a shiny white logo on it

      Reminds me of the old cartoon (can't find a link) with Michaelangelo's father berating the youngster and adding "in my day, we used to make our own brushes"...

    32. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Jobs isn't the only thinker. He's the only one, however, who has been able to make the world passionate about Apple products. I think it's fair to say that Apple's next CEO will not make the boneheaded mistake of making Apple products that look just like every other computer out there except maybe a bit more rounded, though.

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    33. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Select the file to be renamed. PRESS THE "ENTER" KEY. Type the new name. Press the enter key again, or click anywhere else.

      Completely intuitive! How the GP failed to discover this is beyond me. I only hope he's not an IT professional.

    34. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no simple "rename" option!

      bash$ mv old_name new_name

    35. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by RedK · · Score: 1

      Apple has a lot of education customers, video editing and sound editing folk, the movie industry, journalists, copy rooms, the list goes on. How are those not enterprise ? Unless enterprise as some very strict meaning where it's only IT companies and Finance firms that count...

      --
      "Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
      Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
    36. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just in case you hadn't noticed, your troll is hilariously bad not only because you're using a joke that stopped being valid years ago when Macs started shipping with multi-button mice, but also because your troll illustrates the benefit of only having a single mouse button -- you never have to wonder "which button?"

      If your goal here was to fail in an epic manner, you have succeeded.

    37. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by stokessd · · Score: 1

      Apple has yet to create any form of enterprise level reliable software. Not a single one.

      Well there's web-objects which back in the day served dynamic content from Disney, Dell etc.

      It was one of the darlings of NeXT (a company ahead of it's time), and after NeXT was re-absorbed by Apple has languished and maybe superseded.

    38. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by stokessd · · Score: 1

      Good point. Win9X was a steaming turd which we all suffered through. And ironically MacOS (in all it's later forms) was also a steaming turd. Multitasking?! Multitasking?! That's advanced stuff, how about a disk driver that was interrupt safe so that you could, you know, do stuff while writing to disk. Man you've got to walk before you can run.

      I used to write fortran code in absoft fortran 77 on a Mac during grad school. It was such a great machine for avoiding RSI. I'd do some sort of bone-headed array index error and rather than have my program crash immediately and let me fix it, the whole machine would go down and I'd be able to get up, stretch and get a cup of coffee and maybe drop some kids off at the pool while the machine rebooted. Apple had my back even in those days. No Carpel Tunnel for me.

      Sheldon

    39. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Enterprise level reliable? If an enterprise truly values reliability they go with Big Iron. Five or six 9s of reliability is expensive but also come with financial incentives. For the money, these companies pay for reliability, but they get financial compensation if not met. Microsoft famously touted their reliability when running a major stock exchange. The London Stock Exchange was down for a day and that blew their reliability for an entire century. NASDAQ is the same size as the LSE and they run Unix without an interruption.

      Superior products? What crack have you been smoking? Most MS products for the most part are mediocre. At worst they are inferior. IE is not better than Firefox or Opera at reliability, security, or extensibility. Office is better than most solutions out there but it has increasingly gotten bloated and expensive.

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    40. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how did you get my CC # !

    41. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      Oh dear, it looks like I've upset one of the three remaining classic MacOS fans.

      Posting the link again, for those who still seem to think that Windows 98 has anything to do with Windows Vista: http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/17767/windows-98-crashes-during-gates-demo.html .

    42. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Enter"? How the heck am I supposed to remember that!?

      Why not make it something intuitive like "F2" for "give the File a 2nd name from the one it has now"?

      See: Easy to remember!

    43. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by DigitalHammer · · Score: 1

      But Macs make certain atheist girls look good while babbling about generic arguments against organized religion. its all about the iSight camera :P

      Nice to find you on slashdot, casey. TS from YT here. :O

    44. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by spintriae · · Score: 1

      Ah, the Scientist from the Tubes. How are you man? Cool running into you here. Much cooler than having you catch me camwh0ring on /b/.

      Hey, don't judge me. I wouldn't do it my dad payed more attention to me. :(

    45. Re:An old dude in a turtleneck... by DigitalHammer · · Score: 1

      hm im doing pretty good, except my legs and lungs--thanks to new years, heh. school is starting again and it looks like new vids will have to wait till the summer. hows life post-tubes?

  3. Re:Steve is dead. by Anthony_Cargile · · Score: 1

    Well at first it appeared that the tag was read as "rip steve" rather than the (hopefully implied) "R.I.P Steve" and I was a little scared, but yes apparently you are the one who tagged this because he is not _dead_ per se, just removing himself from the Mac scene a little (you can't expect him to completely leave what he loves/does best, now can you?)

  4. The iRack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE

  5. Zombie Steve Jobs releases iBrains by David+Gerard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Steve Jobs, visionary leader of Apple Computer, has died - and come back, better and stronger.

    The news was carried in an obituary run by Bloomberg late last night, which was pulled when news of his resurrection came through.

    "They don't call it the Jesus Phone for nothing," Jobs laughed with reporters, before eating their tasty, tasty brains.

    Jobs' new cyborg arsenal includes wifi, 3G, laser cannons, a flame thrower and a can opener, all running on Mac OS X Robosteve. Bundled applications include an enhanced hypnotic force field based on the one he uses at MacWorld keynotes. "I can't wait to try it on Bill," he said.

    Disney, in which Jobs is the single largest shareholder, remained unaffected. "Steve's just working with the way we do things here," said the disembodied computer-hosted soul of Walt Disney, who was decanted to a computer in 1966 to avoid being declared legally dead, so that copyright in his works would never, ever run out.

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    1. Re:Zombie Steve Jobs releases iBrains by Basehart · · Score: 1

      I hope Steve is hard at work recording some video clips to be played Hari Seldon style at Disney theme parks every year for the rest of eternity.

  6. Strange confusion... it isn't obvious? by mr_josh · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Maybe I've missed the people saying this, but it seems obvious why Steve (yeah, we're on a first name basis) is stepping out of the picture. He's not going to live forever, nor do I imagine that he wants to remain CEO until his death.

    It seems like bad business practice (a liability?) for the fate of an entire company to be tied to one man, but there it is: people do not trust Apple to innovate sans Jobs. Rather than wait for the guy to drop dead or decide to quit. They have to start weening the public off of the idea that Steve Jobs sits in a big room, thinking up ideas that later become the products people crave.

    The fact of the matter is Jobs has brought an atmosphere and mindset to Apple that they'd been lacking for a long time. And while people are -often legitimately- prone to question how truly innovative Apple's products are, it's hard to argue that the hype is often legitimate, and they at least have designs that contain and lack just the right number of features with the right amount of polish for a majority of users, to the point where they are willing to pay a premium for the product.

    Separating the Steve Jobs from the idea that Apple is what has to be done, and it's going to be rough.

    1. Re:Strange confusion... it isn't obvious? by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 1

      It seems like bad business practice (a liability?) for the fate of an entire company to be tied to one man, but there it is: people do not trust Apple to innovate sans Jobs.

      It's true, but I find that fact hilarious. It means that people really are stupid enough to think Jobs is the one doing the innovating at Apple. Any innovation that comes out of that place is the product of a bunch of really smart people working together, not one man.

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    2. Re:Strange confusion... it isn't obvious? by blackest_k · · Score: 1

      If you really are on first name terms with steve, tell him osx runs well on a netbook, acer aspire one is mostly compatile, needed a usb wificard since the internal one wasn't supported.

      There's two possibilities he could consider an osx release which fully supports this limited hardware or getting an apple badged version on the streets.

      I understand Apple doesn't want to suffer the Linux issue, 99% compatibility but that 1% causes the quality of Linux into question time and time again. However as a subset of PC hardware which netbooks surely are, Apple really are missing out on a golden opportunity to dramatically increase market share.

      An Apple branded netbook would sell and be a gateway to future sales at the higher end too.
      It would be something of a triumph over Microsoft to be able to supply a netbook with a current mac operating system.

    3. Re:Strange confusion... it isn't obvious? by mike260 · · Score: 1

      Apple had smart people working there in the wilderness years too, and a fat lot of good it did them without a coherent long-term strategy and a bit of vision at the top.

    4. Re:Strange confusion... it isn't obvious? by mike260 · · Score: 1

      They have to start weening the public off of the idea that Steve Jobs sits in a big room, thinking up ideas that later become the products people crave.

      Yeah, agree mostly, and I have no doubt that post-Jobs they will continue to do all that good stuff - refreshing the hardware, coming up with a new look to replace aluminium+glass, adding fribble-frabble to OS X and so on.

        But it's hard to imagine an Apple led by (eg) Phil Schiller, creating new products on a par with OSX, iLife, the iPhone, the iPod and so on.

  7. Yes, he IS kind of a priest by linhares · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Look at how he manages to always bring up an US versus THEM mentality, which is highly reminiscent of religion. I don't think that it's actually some "clever marketing ploy" by Jobs--I feel the guy really obsessively strives for purity, always taking older stuff out and bringing some new stuff that has never been done before. This purity craziness makes some fantastic products, such as the iPhone, and others which are only conceptual, like the cube. My macbook air, for instance, was just sold to some other sucker. That thing is beautiful, but at the same time it is a concept machine. 80GB with no expansion? "Oh but that's the purity of it; nobody has a thinner notebook"....

    1. Re:Yes, he IS kind of a priest by Keen+Anthony · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Without a doubt. It's completely in his personality, and he's always been this way. It's been said that everything with Steve has been about revolution and overthrowing stale paradigms. And likewise for Bill Gates, it's about the thrill of the victory. He's a nut when it comes to games like poker or puzzles. Neither of these guys care about money for the sake of money.

    2. Re:Yes, he IS kind of a priest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you this asshat^h^h^h^h^h^h guy?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOAUI0s8zOE

    3. Re:Yes, he IS kind of a priest by linhares · · Score: 1

      hehehe what a prick. No, I'm not that guy. I do agree that many things have to be taken apart in order to do something new. But for me the lack of space is the dealbreaker. The Macbook Air is the one 2009 laptop you can't take your large collection of music, photos, or videos with. A netbook can do it, but not a $1700 machine?

    4. Re:Yes, he IS kind of a priest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither of these guys care about money for the sake of money.

      Wrong, just compare an annual keynote of Jobs vs Gates. Gates just takes about statistics and "critical momentum" and market capitalisation. With Jobs you actually feel an enthusiasm for the products they design and a desire to change the world with techonlogy. They are miles apart in terms of philosophy about money. And anyway it's sad to see the Job's Macworld keynotes stop, even if just for the entertainment value.

    5. Re:Yes, he IS kind of a priest by Keen+Anthony · · Score: 1

      No. Obviously they have to be good businessmen, and that entails being motivated by profit. They would be irresponsible not too, but I'm talking about the motivations that drive their personalities. Everyone who's known Bill Gates since his teen years knows about how intensely competitive Bill is. He loves to win. If the objective of the game is money, then his goal is to obtain the most. If the objective is just being dominant in a particular segment, even at a loss, then Bill will pursue that. As for Steve Jobs, from the very beginning of Apple, he was motivated by a desire to overthrow IBM and HP. It went beyond mere enthusiasm. It was evangelism. And, of course, I fell in love with like many other Apple diehards.

      Yeah, it's sad that he's not going to do those keynotes anymore. I hope it's not for the reasons the rumor mill has been churning out because his keynotes are always something I look forward to.

  8. Why are they stopping doing these? by superskippy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Steve or no steve, the what-are-apple-bringing-out-next keynotes are a big tech highlight. They always get lots of news coverage- e.g. this piece!

    It mystifies why Apple have decided that they can be dispensed with. Dell would kill to have this.

    1. Re:Why are they stopping doing these? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah. Dell would have sold the company and returned the money to the shareholders.

    2. Re:Why are they stopping doing these? by phillymjs · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They're stopping because they're tired of having to have something to show off two weeks after Christmas when the alternative is getting hammered for not announcing anything exciting-- without the Expo, they are free to work on stuff until they feel it's ready to be announced; they don't have to rush to conform to the timing of the show.

      Plus, the timing of the show (which IDG is has apparently never been willing to reschedule) puts a dent in Apple's holiday sales... people who want to buy will hold off to see what new stuff gets announced at the Expo.

      Finally, Apple now has sufficient mindshare with the general public that they don't really need a big trade show presence anymore to garner publicity. I see headlines on CNN.com frequently when Apple introduces new/updated products, and not just during the Expo-- Dell and HP don't have that kind of coverage when they announce new stuff, and most of Microsoft's press is stuff they'd rather not see on the main page of CNN.com, like yesterday's Zune coma epidemic.

      ~Philly

  9. Jobs = Marketing by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just goes to show you what you can do if you truly believe in your products.

    Personally i think he's a pompous jerk and is often shortsighted, but I cant deny he's the master of marketing.

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    1. Re:Jobs = Marketing by syousef · · Score: 4, Funny

      Personally i think he's a pompous jerk and is often shortsighted, but I cant deny he's the master of marketing.

      You just repeated yourself. Master of Marketing would have been sufficient.

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  10. Re:Dickipedia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, but you know its true!

  11. Job's easy job... by N!NJA · · Score: 3, Funny

    [...] spectacles that made even the simplest product feature -- such as the handle on the clamshell iBook -- seem innovative and utterly desirable.

    Spectacle?! You're kidding me. this is the easiest job in Silicon Valley? to arouse Mac fans and convince them to buy more Apple stuff. c'mom, that's as labourous as convincing an alcoholic to have another drink!

    1. Re:Job's easy job... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or getting a Leenux user to think recompiling the kernel is a fun way to spend a weekend

    2. Re:Job's easy job... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/weekend/minute or two/g

  12. Looking at the videos, it occurs to me by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that Jobs may be unique in that he has the skills to manage a major company, at the same time he really, really cares about the product. That's what comes across in videos; it's not that his keynotes have a great deal of razzmatazz, it's that they have conviction. That is the source of the famous reality distortion field. At the same time, he also brought classic management common sense to Apple, simplifying their product line to fit a well chosen market position, streamlining the manufacturing end of the business.

    I really think this combination is rare. There are lots of entrepreneurs who start businesses, to whom management is something they have to do in order to create products. There are lots of high flying managers for whom, at the end of the day, a company is merely a machine for efficient profit generation. I think Carly Fiorina at HP was an example of the latter. It wasn't that her ideas were, in a generic sense, bad. It's that she didn't have a sense for what was right, and more importantly, unique at HP. People see her as the manager that destroyed HP; that's not quite right. She is the manager who turned HP from an unique institution into just another big company.

    I suppose it may be that a more or less standard company is easier to run; you can get generic B school grads employing motherhood and apple pie practices and turn a normal profit, or with luck a tiny bit more. But while the process of converting an unique company into something easier to grasp, there is a spark of imagination and creativity that is lost.

    Whatever Jobs faults may have been, you can't say he was an ineffective or inefficient manager, nor can you say he treated the products of the company as merely profit centers. Apple is a company with personality, with a sense of uniqueness and mission, things which business plans give lip service to but usually aren't reflected in reality.

    Jobs is a manager for whom the details of a product matter. People snicker about the reality distortion field when the crowd goes wild when Jobs announces the iBook will have a handle, but I don't think they get it. Whether or not a handle is something a laptop ought to have, details matter. I wish other manufacturers had this attitude; they copy stylistic elements from Apple, but while the result may or may not look great, they still miss important details like managing the cord on the power brick, or the power connector itself.

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    1. Re:Looking at the videos, it occurs to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think that he cares about the product so much is a rare characteristic in CEOs. Most CEOs get on stage and talk about profit momentum and other accounting noise. Steve gets on stage and talks about the beauty of the product and how this changes people's lives.

      I remember reading a story about the development of the first Macintosh. Steve was haranguing a programmer to make the boot time faster. (Paraphrasing). "Imagine if you cut the boot time by 10 seconds. Multiply that by a million customers. You just saved 115 days of life every year." Most CEOs would have talked about how many more units would be sold.

      Whatever else you say about him that passion for the product is an outstanding characteristic.

    2. Re:Looking at the videos, it occurs to me by Cannelloni · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think that is a fair assessment. While I don't know what goes on in Jobs' head, I know he is almost fanatical about the user experience, some thing Microsoft and others only have a superficial idea about. (They still haven't figured it out, which is obvious to anyone who has been exposed to Windows Vista or seen the Windows 7 betas.) The way the users sees the product is the most important part. Second, Steve Jobs has built the Apple brand from an empty shell of a logo to a dominant player. Apple is now a leader in consumer electronics. Before Jobs, Apple was a small niche player, now it's about to go mainstream in a major way. But market share is not all that important to Apple, and I will try to explain why. The third thing, and the only thing that matters from a business point of view, is profitability. Apple is a VERY profitable business now. The company also has a cash reserve of about 25 billion US dollars. Profitability is more important then market share to Apple, because it means it has the freedom to go anywhere and be anything it wants. Something that will become apparent in the years ahead.

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    3. Re:Looking at the videos, it occurs to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first iPod shows this too. I had a flash based mp3 player and it had all of these different cables for USB and power (with a wall wart transformer) the thing looked like an Intensive care patient will all those wires.

      The ipod used the firewire for power and data and that for me was just as big of a deal as the scroll wheel interface.

    4. Re:Looking at the videos, it occurs to me by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      People see her as the manager that destroyed HP; that's not quite right. She is the manager who turned HP from an unique institution into just another big company.

      This is very much the same thing.

      I have a first-generation Compaq nw9440 laptop. It had a serious GPU overheat problem and a self-ejecting DVD-rom problem when I got it. Without going into detail (some of you have seen much of it already) they've sent me the wrong-brand optical drive twice (HP brand is a line item feature, I don't want tsstcorp even if it's only a bios difference!) and the wrong MODEL (4x instead of 8x, no lightscribe) three times, sent me the wrong power supply twice, on-site tech came out and took my computer from flaky to dead, then came out again and couldn't fix it, had to send in my on-site-service laptop for repair... HP sold me a lemon and then has utterly failed to provide reasonable service. There's no way they can possibly have made money on this deal, and the worst part is that since they outsourced everything possible, and otherwise remain a conglomeration of umpteen jillion companies, it takes minimum 45 minutes on the phone every time I call, even just to request a callback.

      HP is now a company with no soul. There is no compelling reason whatsoever to purchase from HP. If you love yourself, you will not buy anything from those fuckers for personal use, because if it goes to hell getting it fixed will be a soul-stealing operation. (My laptop still has some poorly-secured plastic around the power button. I'm pretty sure the button board is what died and stopped my laptop from booting when the tech came and worked on it without any static protection whatsoever, on cold windy days this last December.)

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    5. Re:Looking at the videos, it occurs to me by txoof · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Whether or not a handle is something a laptop ought to have, details matter. I wish other manufacturers had this attitude; they copy stylistic elements from Apple, but while the result may or may not look great, they still miss important details like managing the cord on the power brick, or the power connector itself.

      I was an early adopter of the HDD based mp3 player. I bought Archo's FIRST HDD mp3 player and it was a beast. It took 6(!) AA batteries, had the form factor of a cassette player and charged with an ugly wallwart. It had a reasonable capcity (10GB), but the UI was terrible. The screen was a tiny, muddy backlit mess and it was just about impossible to navigate through the tiny screen. A few years later, after giving up on HDD based mp3 players, I bought an iPod. It was my first experience with an Apple product since middle school.

      Comming from a cruddy, unreadable display and a terrible UI to the ipod was a really interesting experience. The thought and precision that went into the design was remarkable. I was amazed at the ingenuity of the click wheel interface. Little things like the international swappable power adapter on the brick were a nice touch too. The short of the long is this: Apple doesn't just make stuff that works, they spend a lot of time (and MONEY!) making stuff that has well crafted details. Like the OP said, sometimes those details are downright silly, but the fact is somebody put a lot of thought into those details. The details, as silly as they might be, for the most part, work as they were intended to.

      Other manufactures could do well to take a page from Apple and put as much thought into their products. Sony is a great example, they cram all sorts of awesome features into their products, but in the end, their devices feel cumbersome and difficult to use. And in my experience, every Sony device I've owned has some sort of fatal flaw, like my Sony TV that thinks it knows what my "favorite" channel is and switches to it repeatedly until I unplug it for an hour.

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  13. keynote archive? by Shaheen · · Score: 1

    does anyone know of a video archive of all of jobs' keynotes since he has returned to apple? try as i might, i've only been able to gather a few that i've found from youtube and itunes.

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  14. Re:Steve is dead. by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

    Well at first it appeared that the tag was read as "rip steve" rather than the (hopefully implied) "R.I.P Steve" and I was a little scared

    Scared? Upset maybe, distressed, distraught. But scared? At what, what might happen to Apple? It's an odd day when one is scared for the sake of a multi-billion dollar corporation...

  15. Re:Steve is dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    We've all seen what Apple is like without Steve. We don't want to see it again. He keeps bring out desirable products and that makes us happy. It also gives his opposition fits.

  16. Re:Steve is dead. by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

    Spoken like one who's livelyhood/retirement is not tied up in their stock. But I don't own any Apple stock... the only Apple product I have is an iPod shuffle -- hardly a high-dollar item.

  17. Re:Dickipedia by reidconti · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, it's just not funny. I got bored after reading the first section. It made me smile in a few places but not even an audible chuckle. It just comes off seeing angry, petty, and formulaic.

    I mean, the encyclopediadramatica article on Steve Jobs is at least trying, and worthy of a laugh.

  18. Some guy said something about some product. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously. Who CARES.

  19. Mega-wide screen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK so "widescreen" then.

    Why do peple get so excited at being marketed to?

  20. i don't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    jobs says "look how small it is!" and gets applause. everybody is suckig his dick like crazy.

    i never had thatreaction when i said the same thing. all i got was sobbing. definately no dick sucking

  21. Re:Steve is dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you can't expect him to completely leave what he loves/does best, now can you?

    Depends how far down they went when they did his colostomy.

  22. Why stop there? Why not write the entire post in t by black_lbi · · Score: 0, Redundant

    he title?
    Oh, that's why ...

  23. Needs a match between MacWorld xx and NeXTWorld yy by WillAdams · · Score: 1

    'cause it's hilarious (and sad) how after Apple bought NeXT people at MacWorld were cheering for demos which were repeats of previous NeXTWorlds.

    William

    (who didn't wait, but switched to using a NeXT Cube in college)

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  24. Re:Needs a match between MacWorld xx and NeXTWorld by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    (who didn't wait, but switched to using a NeXT Cube in college)

    And from the adoption of both NeXTStep and Objective-C, it's clear you made the right choice.

    Martin

    (who used afterstep to make his Linux system look like NeXTStep about the same time he dropped out of college)

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  25. And boom... by CrazeeCracker · · Score: 1
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  26. Re:Steve is dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and where would we be without our false idols

  27. Boom... by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 1

    Here's another good collection of keynotes from the same period:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8L39UwOS-Y

  28. My favourite one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    was the one where he announced over priced under hardwared junk.