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The Secret Origins of Microsoft Office's Clippy

Harry writes "Most folks think that Microsoft Office's Clippy, Microsoft Bob, and Windows XP's Search Assistant dog were perverse jokes — but a dozen years' worth of patent filings shows that Microsoft took the concept of animated software 'helpers' really, really seriously, even long after everyone else realized it was a bad idea. And the drawings those patents contain are weirdly fascinating." The article, a slide show really, spreads over 15 pages.

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  1. WAT by mfh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who cares where Clippy is from. I just want it to die.

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    1. Re:WAT by 4D6963 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Windows RG will do it for you.

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    2. Re:WAT by GFree678 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Clippy IS dead. It's been abandoned in all recent MS products, it's only Slashdot that seems to have trouble understanding this.

    3. Re:WAT by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Funny you should say that, because when XP came out one of my more popular services was putting that damned search puppy to sleep. Folks would come in "I hate that damned search dog! Can you kill that stupid thing?" and I'd tell them that as part of my clean up and lock down package I'd happily put that dog to sleep. To this day I still get that request a few times a year.

      Of course now I get more "I hate this damned Vista! Can you get rid of it and put on XP?" so you really have to give MSFT credit. They went from just having the search hated to having the whole OS despised! Now THAT is progress!

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    4. Re:WAT by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who cares where Clippy is from. I just want it to die.

      No, you have to learn about where it came from, so you can nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

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    5. Re:WAT by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem with these assistance.

      1. Unprofessional. When you are at work. you don't want a cartoon floating around.
      2. Based on Statistics. Meaning you are rarely correct, but on the average close. Creating a situation where it is less helpful over all as the work done normally can't be close. It has to correct. So the assistant want to do things kinda like you are doing but in a way that it is wrong.
      3. Always in your way. When we work We don't like having things on top of our work.
      4. Animation distracts us. Good UI for animation is to put our attention towards something the programmer want you to take notice of. Eg. Element who gets focus, an alert or warning, or something new. But these guys are always moving even when you are doing what you need to do and its overall state hasn't changed, which distracts you from your work.
      5. They keep coming back. You close them... They come back again.
      6. Arrogant. They assume they are smarter then you. Even if you know what you are doing. "I am not writing a List Damnit! I am filling in data sets in a Top Down order because it is easier that way. "
      7. Never tell the disadvantages. The never tell you what the trade off are using that feature. Once you go into list mode you cannot perform calculation on it.
      8. Make the computer seem more personal. Yea that is the point but really a computer is a machine and it really should be considered as such. If you get emotionally attached to it. You start to feel bad about using it. Or when problems come up you blame it other then the people your yourself you causes the problems.
       

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    6. Re:WAT by Vectronic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I find that kind of sad, he was useless, but it was nice to know he was there... just for the odd chuckle when bored.

      He's gotta be there somewhere, some obscure keystroke like Ctrl+Alt+Del twice or something.

    7. Re:WAT by LandDolphin · · Score: 4, Informative

      What are their complaints from XP to Vista? Hearing all of the bad press about Vista, I was not excited to "upgrade" when I purchased a new Laptop. However, having use it for a few months now, I have not come accross any real problems with it. It was a little different then was I was used to, but everything works.

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    8. Re:WAT by jdoverholt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Quit your rational thinking! Get out!

    9. Re:WAT by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2, Funny

      But knowing from whence it came, can we finally kill the beast! There may be clues in its origin that will help us. Right now all we know is garlic, sunlight, silver, and other traditional means have not been effective. Explosives work but have the side effect of destroying the computer. :P

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    10. Re:WAT by Stargoat · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I dunno. I found that a good minority of my users actually liked the Microsoft Assistant. They would watch it and its little antics amused them. All were ladies around 40 years of age or older. Heck, I had an accountant go off on me because I turned off her Microsoft Assistant.

      Based on the response I saw, I think Microsoft was on to something, but it was never executed properly. There were two problems. First, IT people got in the way. Second, the platform and the application idea for end use was all wrong.

      it was not a product for a productive business environment. The people who maintain and train on the products are advanced users, and for them, the Microsoft Assistant was not useful.

      But more to the point, I do not believe Microsoft ever really understood what makes a computer efficient. The best "computers" for specific application use are dumb terminals using basic ASCII characters. The Microsoft Assistant is just the opposite of this. If the computer is to be used for a purpose, the Microsoft Assistant gets in the way. If the computer is an unknown machine to a person, having a face on it is useful.

      But, people do not put smiley faces and instructions on hammers. Perhaps there was no way a Microsoft Assistant or a Microsoft Bob could be executed properly. A tool is a tool.

      Still, the idea of my grandparents filing away a form in an animated desk has appeal. If the product were arranged in such a manner that it could be marketed, as part of a separate non-computer, it could work. If a way existed to integrate a browser with digital television and a more intelligent Microsoft Assistant and the product were marketed to the proper audience, maybe it still could pan out. But we are not there yet. Broadband connections still require passwords and modems/routers. The idea does hold promise. A non-computer with a built in broadband router and no need for passwords. Weâ(TM)re surprisingly close it seems sometimes. If it had a wireless keyboard and mouse or roller without the pain of Bluetooth MAC addresses and crap like that. And a television interface no more complicated than a single HDMI plug. Itâ(TM)s not for anyone who would ever even think of being on Slashdot, and maybe it couldnâ(TM)t work if a computer can only really be a tool and not a way of life, but it does seem plausible.

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    11. Re:WAT by camperdave · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Clippy" itself might be dead, but that doesn't mean that all of the cute, animated assistants have been exorcised from windows. There's still Rover, Dot, F1, Links the cat, Merlin, courtney, Earl, and a handful of others that still exist.

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    12. Re:WAT by rilister · · Score: 2, Informative

      It did, but I decided to go look for it in Word 2007 and found one of the dangers of allowing user-generated content. Turns out MS doesn't really get sarcasm:

      1.Open Word 2007 (though it's the same in any Office 2007 app, I think). Click on the help icon in the top right (?)

      2.Type in "Office Assistant"

      3. 7th link down is "What happened to Office Assistant?" Click here.

      4. Read the *first* community tip for some mean-spirited hilarity.

      "And given the the amazingness(I know it's not a real word) that is Vista, you (Microsoft) could even creat an overall Vista Mascot that could hang out on our desktop, even while no MS Office programs are open."

      Kudos to the submitter.

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    13. Re:WAT by man_of_mr_e · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, the most obvious things that a clueless user would notice are Integrated search (available for XP, but not quite as well integrated), New games, the sidebar gadgets, Built-in DVD maker, Built-in Media Center (though some people bought XP with Media center, most didn't and the most common version of Vista sold is Home Premium that has Media Center), Vastly improved email client, Snippng tool, etc.. All those things are pretty obvious to anyone who's non-technical even.

    14. Re:WAT by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What really pisses me off about disabling that stupid dog is the way he turns his back on me, and slowly saunters off the screen. No, you stupid mutt! I want you gone NOW, none of this insouciance from you!

    15. Re:WAT by Cor-cor · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It was a little different then was I was used to, but everything works.

      I think this is the main problem with Vista now that most of the big bugs have gotten fixed. So many people are completely computer illiterate and just get by through rote memorization of the correct keystrokes/mouse clicks to do the few things they want. When that changes, even a little bit, they are back to completely helpless and hate it, making them want to downgrade.

    16. Re:WAT by Trixter · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, for one thing, Vista on my wife's brand new laptop can't transfer files at speeds exceeding 1.25MB/s despite the network link being capable of almost one hundred times that speed.

      The out-of-box experience is a giant "meh" right in the first ten minutes. I was expecting a lot more product for something that requires 2G of RAM to boot up without paging.

    17. Re:WAT by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      BINGO! Give that man a cigar! Home users have no freaking clue how to actually use a PC and I seriously doubt anybody at MSFT, which seems to have seriously been bit by the "I can be as cool as Apple! Really I can! Quit laughing at me!" ever bothered to actually test the GUI with actually home users. I can tell you that home users HATE change! They absolutely positively HATE change! They know where the buttons were before, they knew what to do to do what they needed before, and now they are nothing but frustrated.

      Then add on top of that the fact that Vista feels slower than their 4 year old XP machine, the HDD thrashes constantly and takes forever to load(most folks shut down their machines cold at night and so do a cold boot at least once a day, usually several) and sucks RAM and CPU time worse than a drunk sucking down Mad Dog, and you have some seriously pissed off consumers. It has gotten to the point that when a new customer comes in and say "Help! I got this new machine and I can't stand it!" that I just say "You got Vista'd,didn't you?" and the answer always is "Yeah, real hard! And I hate this damned thing! Can you put XP on it?". I'm sure that it would shock most here, but most home users I've dealt with didn't even see the "fisher price" GUI of XP because one of the first things they would ask is "Can you make it look like the old one?" so they would happily take home a machine that looked like Win9X. And don't even get me started on Office 2K7. Not placing an easy way to default to the GUI that everyone has been using since Office 97 was just plain stupid.

      Allow me to make a prediction. Write it down, and you watch it come true. If MSFT doesn't fire whichever ass has decided "We can really be like Apple with Win7! No really, we can! Stop making fun of me!" should be the direction of the company instead of making boring, low resource desktop OSes that everyone knows how to use because that is what they have always used, and instead replace quicklaunch and the taskbar with that damned stupid Apple Dock then Win7 is going to go down in flames even faster than Vista. If folks had wanted an Apple they would have freaking bought an Apple. What folks want from MSFT is the same boring as shit they have always gotten, with a little more stability and more drivers included. Add a few little things like native DVD burning and a simple picture editor and they are happy little campers. But if they try to force everyone into this giant Apple ripoff multimedia nightmare then they are going to stay away in droves. I mean have you EVER seen a case like we have now where a new MSFT OS has been out nearly 3 years yet companies like Tigerdirect are bragging Comes with XP Downgrade Rights! in giant letters to sell their machines? Hell I didn't see folks run from a MSFT OS this fast when WinME was unleashed with all its evil upon the world(Bill STILL owes me an apology for THAT one,asshole!)

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    18. Re:WAT by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What are their complaints from XP to Vista? Hearing all of the bad press about Vista, I was not excited to "upgrade" when I purchased a new Laptop. However, having use it for a few months now, I have not come accross any real problems with it. It was a little different then was I was used to, but everything works.

      With Vista, even today, it's rather hit-or-miss regarding hardware. If you get a supported (truly supported!) hardware configuration, you'll get a smooth ride. If not, you can get anything from minor quirks to major blockers. And getting a PC with Vista preinstalled is, unfortunately, no guarantee that all hardware is actually properly supported (rather than "barely working when the stars are right").

      By the way, why is the parent modded Troll? He is merely relaying his personal experiences with Vista - or is it something that's only "+5, Informative" when they are negative?

    19. Re:WAT by NoobixCube · · Score: 2, Funny

      It doesn't matter that he's dead, it's too late. The damage is already done. Our minds will never heal from the scars Clippy inflicted. I think the only way to be sure he stays dead is to annihilate all living memory of him. We must nuke /. from orbit for the good of all humanity, and whatever poor souls discover a functioning computer long after we're gone. It's the only way to be sure.

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    20. Re:WAT by Kagura · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They know where the buttons were before, they knew what to do to do what they needed before, and now they are nothing but frustrated.

      I strongly, strongly agree with the previous statement. However, this next part...

      And don't even get me started on Office 2K7. Not placing an easy way to default to the GUI that everyone has been using since Office 97 was just plain stupid.

      I see some people ragging on Office 2007, but I think it's an example of something Microsoft has done extremely well. The new interface is a fantastic change, and I'm really impressed with it. Defaulting to the "old" GUI would be a step in the wrong direction.

  2. I love when an article... by mdm-adph · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...gets its facts wrong in the first paragraph.

    Like someone says in the comments, Clippy has been around since Office 98.

    That being said, I always though Microsoft's weird fascination with these things went a little too far -- anyone else remember the 20 or so different animated characters that you could get to help you in Windows XP, just to use the File Search feature?

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    1. Re:I love when an article... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That being said, I always though Microsoft's weird fascination with these things went a little too far -- anyone else remember the 20 or so different animated characters that you could get to help you in Windows XP, just to use the File Search feature?

      Once you develop the functionality, creating additional avatars is relatively trivial. I would be surprised if they couldn't find 20 people to make them for free on their lunch breaks around Microsoft. I mean, look at how many multi-frame comic chat avatars people have created just so they could look like Space Ghost or Smurfette on IRC. That's a much lower quality example but still indicative. You could look at gnome themes or something instead I guess. Shit, there's probably more than 200 MacOSX-based visual themes for Windows XP, let alone 20.

      Software agents with avatars are a brilliant idea. But the tech isn't there yet, and/or people try to do too much with it.

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    2. Re:I love when an article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That being said, I always though Microsoft's weird fascination with these things went a little too far

      I thought of Clippy a lot while reading the 1998 book The Media Equation. Here's a review. In short, the researchers' hypothesis was that human interaction instincts like politeness are wired into our brain in such a way that they do not get suspended when using computers. Examples are given in that review.

      It's a believable-sounding hypothesis, and the authors then present a stack of experimental data that corroborates their hypothesis.

      If you look at book pate 33 it says: "How do you enter or leave a social situation? In any face-to-face conversation, people don't turn around and leave. First, they indicate intent and then ask permission to leave, at least implicitly. The opportunity to break this rule in media is legendary. In a famous interface project, a character suddenly disappeared from the screen due to a bug in the program. Users became disturbed, the designers noted, because they felt that the character was angry and had left as a result. Users did not view the disappearance as a problem with the technology. Characters that leave the screen should always take leave by saying "good-bye" or at least making a sound or gesture. They shouldn't evaporate into the digital ether."

      If you still have access to an old copy of office, get Clippy up, then get rid of it. You get a short 'goodbye' animation before the character disappears.

      There's a testimony at the start of the book: "Nass and Reeves have spent the last decade working in the area of social responses to technology. We brought them into our team, and they have shown us some amazing things." -- Bill Gates, Chairman and CEO, Microsoft Corp.

      Clippy was a reasonable-sounding social sciences hypotheses, corroborated by experimental data, and realised as a commercial software product. Whether Clippy's failure was a failure of the hypothesis or of the implementation is hard to tell.

    3. Re:I love when an article... by nine-times · · Score: 2, Informative

      Like someone says in the comments, Clippy has been around since Office 98.

      Was there an Office 98? I thought there was only an Outlook 98, which may have been the introduction of Clippy, but I thought Clippy was around in 97. I do remember upgrading someone to Outlook 98 and them getting annoyed at clippy, which does make me think that either the feature was introduced in Outlook 98, or else it was turned on by default and made more difficult to turn off.

    4. Re:I love when an article... by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you've been in this business as long as I have, you'll realize that Microsoft's "weird fascination" is not an isolated phenomenon. It's part of a long simmering philosophical division over the design of software that goes back at least to the 1980s and the advent of commercially viable personal computing.

      The crux of this debate is this question: exactly how intelligent should software attempt to be on a users behalf? On one end of the spectrum, you have the vision of highly intelligent agents which monitor the world and the user and do things on the user's behalf that the user would do for himself if he would deign to use his valuable attention. The other end of the spectrum isn't quite as easy to characterize, but I'd say it sees the goal of software design as making tools that do exactly what a user asks them to, neither more nor less. We might consider this spectrum as running from proactive or autonomous software on one end to responsive software on the other.

      In a nutshell, it's the question of whether we want software agents or software tools that divides designers.

      The software agent end of things has always had a kind of futuristic allure, and attracts investment and attention and drives innovation. However, I (being a tools-person) think that making the software do what the user tells it to is a surer path to success. Apple, which I see as mainly a tools oriented design company, coined the term Personal Digital Assistant with the idea that small mobile computers would be agents, but Palm was the company that scored the first success in the PDA market by making a handy device.

      Microsoft has always been an agent oriented company. The "Where do you want to go?" slogan has an unexpected facet in that it subtly bodies the software agent philosophy: you specify where you want to be and the agent will take care of the details. Microsoft's design not only hides the details, but often makes the details inaccessible, which means that getting MS software to do what you want often amounts to twiddling poorly or undocumented registry entries.

      This isn't about making software intelligent or not, it's about how much initiative you take out of the users' hands.

      If you read Tim Berners-Lee's article on the Semantic Web from Scientific American a few years back, you can see that a lot of the benefit envisioned by proponents is in creating intelligent agents that work on users behalf to do things like resolve scheduling conflicts. In the meantime, as Semantic Web technology continues to slowly develop, one of its core functions, searching, has been solved for most uses by better and better "conventional" search technology. Conventional search technology focuses on trying to provide the user the answers he asks for without getting everybody in the world to agree in advance on what the relevant questions might be. It has proved successful beyond what one would have thought a system based on clever indexing rather than an intelligent, semantic understanding of the user's wants could be.

      Now, I'm a tools oriented guy, so this is a biased view. I actually think Semantic Web technology is going to be highly useful, but as a way of designing distributed information systems, not as a way of building agents who will fulfill all our information needs because they are intelligent.

      Clippy is representative of the agent philosophy. He watches what you do, and offers to take over as much of the task from you as he can. This highlights the central problem with the agent philosophy: we are so far from having technology that understands people that when it tries its just annoying. It's not that agents are useless. The web spidering robots that build search indices are, in a sense, highly specialized software agents, working on a much smaller and manageable problem.

      Another solution to the same problem as Clippy is the "wizard". Now I'm not particularly fond of wizards from a design standpoint. For one thing, they are temptations t

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    5. Re:I love when an article... by IICV · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ... your post was more informative than the article.

      I know that's a pretty low bar to pass, but you still deserve congratulations.

    6. Re:I love when an article... by rmcd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Great post.

      The thing that always shocked me about Microsoft's UIs is that they do such a terrible job of implementing the things they're purporting to implement. Clippy's an obvious example. But think about right-click menus, which I always thought were a terrific idea but never particularly well-implemented. There are many times I repeat the exact same many-step procedure in Office. Why doesn't Office notice and offer to make a macro or menu item out of what I'm doing? Why can't I drag menu items to the quick-start toolbar (a feature available in many applications for well over a decade)?

      There's so much low-hanging fruit in the Microsoft UI. For all the incredible brainpower in Redmond, it never seems like the people in charge have good judgment.

  3. it wasn't all bad by thermian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The animated Microsoft characters - MS Agents - you could stick in websites and applications were pretty useful sometimes.

    I used to use them in software written for kids, such as for learning basic numeracy, or spelling. A child reacts well to a little robot or santa flying round the program and asking them to do things.

    I used one once as a tour guide to show people round a pretty large website I used to maintain. That was more an experiment than anything, but it got a lot of use.

    I also ported it over to delphi once, it proved to be an entertaining exercise.

    I wouldn't be so sure that such avatars are finished with yet, although clippy and that damn search window dog are good examples of when it can be misapplied

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  4. Re:The Weirding Way by mdm-adph · · Score: 4, Funny

    Whatever happened to just yelling "first post?"

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  5. Teddy bears: priceless! by SemperUbi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Made it to Slide 9 before the site got Slashdotted... My favorite was the slide with the two pissed-off teddy bears. They'd make great Office Assistants: "How the f*ck can we help you today?"

  6. Animated Characters by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember taking some Microsoft certification tests. Now mind you that in order to pass, you must answer things the Microsoft way regardless of whether they were correct or not. Several of the questions on their programming tests involved user interfaces. Invariably, there would be a couple questions on using animated assistants. Now, the correct answer is to never use an animated assistant. But, being a Microsoft test if you saw "animated assistant", that was the Microsoft choice. After failing the first test, I learned "turn the brain off when entering the exam room and turn it on when you leave". Never failed a Microsoft test after that.

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  7. Try and see by El+Lobo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a software developer you should know that some ideas are good and some are bad....but sometimes you never know if you don't try. The key here is innovation and experimentation. The problem is, often nobody remember your little small innovations that went well: nobody now remembers who introduced the small waved underlines that are now standard in every spell checker in the world. Nobody now remembers who introduced tutorialized tasks. In 10 years nowbody will remember who introduced the ribbon. But everybody will remember the innovations that went wrong, like clippy and friends.

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    1. Re:Try and see by El+Lobo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's not unusual at all. With every new version the avatars has been changing. I guess they have been trying to fine-tune it to try to find some use for it, but with every new release their function and space is less and less. Today Clippy is almost inexistent. Of course, there are million of people who still use Office 97, so there are million of Clippy users still today.

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    2. Re:Try and see by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Worse is that people tend to attribute useful innovations to the wrong source. How many people do you hear attributing the mouse to Apple? How many other people do you hear trying to correct the first group by telling them that Xerox invented the mouse? When an innovation goes poorly, the people who came up with it become a joke and are remembered because of that joke; but when it goes well, it is usually some company like Apple or Microsoft that popularizes it, and nobody remembers the original innovators.

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  8. Page 7 of TFA interests me by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Modulating the Behavior of an Animated Character to Reflect Beliefs Inferred About a Userâ(TM)s Desire for Automated Services"

    I think if they'd put this into practice I might have finally gotten to see Clippy take a lot of something high calibre to the face.

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  9. Microsoft Home by mlwmohawk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I used to work at a software contracting house about 16-18 years ago. We worked on "Microsoft Home" project. There were two programs: "Fine Artist" and "Creative Writer" for kids. (code name "splat") It had an animated helper, "Pablo Picknoseo" (yes: pik-nOs-O") it seems to be some time before these patents. I still got the tee shirt.

    The Picaso family objected to the name of the character and they renamed him.

    I left that company as they were billing Microsoft by the hour, but paying salary. Microsoft was changing things on a weekly basis, but not adjusting the release schedule. The company was neither adding engineers nor fighting back on the schedule, just demanding we work more. It was crazy.

  10. Re:The Weirding Way by mdm-adph · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just realized what that post is supposed to be -- it's like a "mental DNS" attack to fark up the rest of the discussion.

    Probably a rogue Microsoft patent attorney!

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  11. Re:The unholy trinity by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

    And 'Bob' is 'boB' backwards. Eerie!

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  12. Clippy says... by Salamander · · Score: 5, Funny

    It looks like you're trying to create a slideshow about me. Would you like to...

    • ...include the paparazzi pictures of me at the nude beach?
    • ..find a lawyer for when Microsoft claims this violates their copyright?
    • ...show everyone how super-duper-elite you are by complaining about me even though they you've never actually seen me for real because your middle school doesn't use Office?
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  13. Huh. They might've forgotten something. by transiit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For an article interested in the "Secret Origins of Clippy", they did a good job noting that this all started with the failed Microsoft Bob ("I see you've mistyped your password. Would you like to change it?"

    But for all the secrecy they've uncovered in these public patent filings, they seemed to have missed that the program manager of MS Bob was Melinda French, who later became Melinda Gates. I understand she later worked with the team that gave the world the MS Office Assistant (clippy) as well as the Search animations that show up starting around Windows XP.

    I guess it's anyone's guess whether there was any nepotism driving this as a marketable feature, even when it was regularly reviled by their users.

    1. Re:Huh. They might've forgotten something. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      kdawson didn't miss it:

      Posted by kdawson on Friday January 02, @09:02AM
      from the melinda-has-a-lot-to-answer-for dept.

  14. techno amnesia .. by rs232 · · Score: 4, Informative

    "nobody now remembers who introduced the small waved underlines .. tutorialized tasks .. the ribbon"

    WordPerfect highlights poor grammar or incorrect word usage with a wavy blue underline

    Apple Guide Isn't Help

    tabbed toolbars or the Component palette as it was called in Delphi

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  15. I had clippy really help me once. by Kayden · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Hi, I noticed you're writing a ransom letter. Would you like a few pointers? If you use more threatening language, you can probably get a lot more money. Also, make sure you use gloves when you print the letter so the police can't track your finger prints"

  16. The origin of Clippy by symbolset · · Score: 2, Funny

    Clippy was Melinda Gates' idea. Hence the emphasis on making it work.

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  17. A Microsoft PM once told me Clippy saved money by Cerebus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Allegedly, Clippy annoyed people into looking in the help files to figure out how to turn him off. That led them to discover that the help file actually was helpful. This reduced the give-away service calls by some measured percent.

    Probably not Clippy's intended purpose, but there you go. :)

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    1. Re:A Microsoft PM once told me Clippy saved money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I had a certain clueless CPA who kept asking me simple questions about how to use office. I mean stupidly-simple like 'how do i underline?' and stuff like that....

      Eventually I broke down & told her to start asking clippy before she called me... clippy was able to help her enough that my 3 or 4 calls a week dwindled to 1 every week or two.

      Badmouth clippy all you like, for clueless idiots hes a huge help & that CPA wasnt the only person ive ever seen using him on a regular basis.

  18. Missing... by SpectraLeper · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm surprised we didn't see this important product listed.

  19. Jesus. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who cares where Clippy is from. I just want it to die.

    I'll tell you what I want to die - Web sites that spread an article out one paragraph at a time over 15 pages where the spam-to-content ratio is 15 to 1.

    I'm sorry, but I didn't read the article, since I didn't get past page one of fifteen.

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    1. Re:Jesus. by ElleyKitten · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'll tell you what I want to die - Web sites that spread an article out one paragraph at a time over 15 pages where the spam-to-content ratio is 15 to 1.

      I'm sorry, but I didn't read the article, since I didn't get past page one of fifteen.

      I got to page 2. There they have a link that is supposedly a microsoft article saying people loathe rover (the xp search dog). follow the link and... no, it doesn't say anything like that. Reading 15 pages is bad enough, but 15 pages of bullshit is not what I'm doing.

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    2. Re:Jesus. by Pentium100 · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/crawford_september03.mspx

      No More Dog Days

      There are, indeed, strong feelings on both sides about the dog. Rover is the default animated character that appears when you open the Search Companion. People love it or loathe it. There seems to be very little middle ground. Fortunately, everyone can be made happy.

      You didn't read that page, did you?

  20. Re:Also Rans by FlyingBishop · · Score: 3, Funny

    There is no way that George Lucas has had a horde of interns and patent attorneys working for the past two decades on Jar Jar Binks.

  21. Clearly the result of... by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...an employee bonus program based on the number of patent filings.

  22. Avatars are a great concept... by RazorJ_2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...it's just that Microsoft's initial implementation was poor IMHO. The whole concept is great. At my work, we have available a tremendous amount of online training through a combination of video and PDF, etc. The thing is that what Microsoft didn't study, or perhaps did but didn't understand is that since childhood, kids are raised to see cartoon charactors as, for the most part, a little retarded. So anyone seen using a cartoon charactor to teach them concepts and usage of a software program will be seen as being retarded.

    I bet that if they had done a proper, professional, and serious implentation, that it might have gone better for them.

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  23. whipped by GregNorc · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure that Melinda French (later to become Melinda Gates) being the project manager for the Microsoft Bob project had nothing to do with the fact Microsoft ran with it for so long.

  24. The upside of Clippy by tjstork · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You know, as much as everyone hates Clippy, Microsoft sold so many copies of Office that there's bound to be a few million people that like him. I would be willing to bet that anyone who wrote a spreadsheet with a clippy like help system would wind up making a pretty good amount of money. For what its worth, I think today's Office help absolutely sucks compared to Clippy. FOr me, that text box of asking what Clippy I wanted to do was usually pretty damn good. Clippy always came through for me.

    I think the idea of a personified computer, creating one that expresses interaction, is something that Microsoft should have stuck it out with. Someday, some competitor is going to look at the ashes of clippy, and bob, have an "aha moment", identify where it all went wrong, and everyone will be cheering a great breakthrough in technology.

    It wouldn't be the first time this happened. The US car companies put a lot of money into a lot of automotive and engine technologies that didn't see a practical light of day, and, ultimately, the likes of Toyota and Honda would pick up the pieces and run with them in the late 1980s and establish themselves not just as low cost alternatives but as technology players.

    And, I will tell you, I know exactly what Microsoft's failure was with Clippy, right when I announce my new Storky based help in my spreadsheet!

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  25. Microsoft Chat by qw0ntum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Slide 4 is probably related to Microsoft Comic Chat, an experimental IRC client that came out of Microsoft Research years ago (and incidentally the origin of the Comic Sans font). It basically took an IRC conversation and made it look like a comic strip, where each member of the conversation had a different character, and their words would appear as speech bubbles. You could also make your character have different expressions. All in all it was pretty cool and actually worked pretty well. It never really took off though because it accomplished all this by prepending metadata to your messages: if the people you were talking to were using MS Chat, they would see your character smile or frown or something; if they used any other client it'd just be a bunch of gibberish before your message.

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  26. Smart dog vs stupid Microsoft guy by Jim+Hall · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A relative of mine (name withheld) was working at Microsoft at the time, in their MS Office division. He told me some great stories about this "animated help assistant" they were working on for the next release.

    The best bit, and most telling, was the huge political infighting about what the avatar would be. One group lobbied for a cartoon dude wearing a Microsoft t-shirt, because you should have the concept that "Microsoft is helping you" or some such. Another group wanted a cartoon dog to answer questions - they argued that version 1 of whatever Microsoft did would suck, that the avatar would often misunderstand questions so would give wrong answers, thus it would be better to have a smart dog occasionally get it wrong, than a Microsoft guy look stupid.

    This person left Microsoft before the avatar was decided, so I don't know why Microsoft decided a magic, talking paperclip was the best solution.

  27. Re:The unholy trinity by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I always thought bob backwards was dod.
    upside down: pop
    backwards and upside down: qoq
    transpose:
    b
    o
    b

  28. The anthropomorphic interface is a bad idea. by mosb1000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm not sure why some people seem to be obsessed with interacting with anthropomorphic machines. There are over 6 billion people in the world, surely you can find one of them to talk to.

    A computer is a computer. People use them more like a book that is updated in real-time than anything else. We should simply let it be what it is and try to improve on the way people interact with it. It makes no sense to try to trick users into believing they are interacting with something else. That can only lead to confusion and problems.

    The same thing goes you anthropomorphic robot-builders out there. Why build something that acts like a human? We already have lots of those. The whole point of automation is that it can do things that are difficult for us to do by hand. It doesn't make sense that an efficient robot would look like a human, because the mere fact that we need or want a robot to do it implies that the human form does not lend itself to the task.

  29. Re:My son is scared at night because of Clippy by miknix · · Score: 2, Funny

    My 5 year old son is scared at night because Clippy is under the bed.

    True story, he told me.

  30. What are the complaints about Vista? by rakslice · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I see this comment a lot, and I suppose that many average Windows users don't see the seams and can't figure out what the fuss is about.

    From my point of view as someone who has used Windows heavily for almost two decades, 2007-08 in Microsoft land has been the perfect storm of poor user experience for power users.

    Here are the factors:

    VISTA
    - The configuration dialog shell game that we've come to expect with every new Windows release
    - Deeper UI changes to features that I use several times a minute (e.g. alt-tab ordering, language cycling shortcuts) that had previously worked fine the way they were since Windows 95 or before; I'm not sure if Vista's UI designers knew what they were getting rid of
    - RAM usage that's off the hook and weird paging performance, thus the push to the x64 version
    - The x64 version's remaining hardware and software compatibility issues
    - Just general brokenness around configuration behaviour (e.g. language settings), hardware-related functionality (e.g. built-in burning with -RW disks), and general system behaviour (why would it ever make sense to launch the task manager minimized when the task bar becomes unresponsive at the drop of a hat when an app isn't responding?) that ultimately should have been found in testing and fixed before the product got out the door
    - I'm sure there are things I'm forgetting about here.
    - With all the risk taking with the UI, why not also address underlying OS problems that have been around for years (e.g. mysteriously in-use files getting in the way of deletes and ejecting USB drives, the buggy aforementioned built-in burning?)
    - The icing on the cake: Microsoft choosing to stubbornly phase out XP, so most OEM buyers and most corporate buyers are stuck with Vista for new installs even if they (or their staff) would prefer XP. Microsoft's pacing is really what took the patchable brokenness and the performance problems from being theoretical issues to real ones for power users.

    OFFICE 2007
    - Although not a reason to knock Vista, this is certainly part of the perfect storm, since like Vista, Office 2007 throws out a bunch of the previous product's tried-and-true UI (the whole menu structure) and rethinks it, and MS has taken the same approach to phasing it in as for Vista, so for new installs, it's just as unavoidable as Vista. Because it largely works properly and performs OK (cynical view: higher unit price -> more exhaustive testing?,) and because I can at least come up with plausible explanations for all of the UI changes they made, it's not quite as hard a pill for me to swallow as Vista but still another layer of icing on the cake.

    So yeah...

    I realize that I'm being a snooty power user here. Not everyone wants or needs backwards compatibility. And although the $100+ retail sticker price and huge market share of Windows suggest that MS should spend a lot on testing, the realities of OEM pricing and keeping the shareholders happy mean that MS has to stretch their usability testing dollar a long way. So, power-user oriented features with limited appeal must get the short end of the stick.

    On that note, there are things that Vista has done right:
    - The layer of awful networking wizards are a highly nuanced topic in themselves, but despite being harder to avoid than the ones in XP, they seem to have more informative automated functionality and that's ultimately a win
    - The search box on the start menu is a killer power-user feature (even if I was going to use Launchy anyway)
    - The more detailed performance monitoring in the Task Manager as well as the Performance control panel/snap-in is impressive
    - You'll note that I haven't mentioned User Account Control (UAC) in the minuses... That's because, despite the warts (e.g. tapping my fingers while a low priority process waits to redraw the whole screen that it has just taken over) I think UAC is a real security improvement for power users and has been sorely needed for a long time... BUT I can certainly understand that for averag

  31. The damn dog by El_Oscuro · · Score: 2, Informative

    At work, we recently "upgraded" from Win2k to XP, and I got my first experience with the dog. We deployed a release to production which had a bug in it, and I needed to find all references to the broken routine *FAST*. So I called up the handy-dandy search screen with the cute little mutt and put in the text I wanted to find in the files. No matches. WTF? Did I spell it wrong? No. There was 1 file I knew had it, so I opened it, found the text and than ran the same search again against that 1 file. Still didn't find it. OK, so search for text within files doesn't work.

    I later found out that the search for text with in a file only works with .TXT files (I mean, no-one would ever want to search another type of file, right?). You can get it to work with the following, easy procedure:

    "To configure Windows XP to search all files no matter what the file type, obtain the latest service pack for Windows XP and then turn on the Index file types with unknown extensions option.

    If you use this method, Windows XP searches all file types for the text that you specify. This can affect the performance of the search functionality. To do this:

    1. Click Start, and then click Search (or point to Search, and then click For Files or Folders).
    2. Click Change preferences, and then click With Indexing Service (for faster local searches).
    3. Click Change Indexing Service Settings (Advanced). Note that you do not have to turn on the Index service.
    4. On the toolbar, click Show/Hide Console Tree.
    5. In the left pane, right-click Indexing Service on Local Machine, and then click Properties.
    6. On the Generation tab, click to select the Index files with unknown extensions check box, and then click OK.
    7. Close the Indexing Service console.

    Important This section, method, or task contains steps that tell you how to modify the registry. However, serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly. Therefore, make sure that you follow these steps carefully. For added protection, back up the registry before you modify it. Then, you can restore the registry if a problem occurs. For more information about how to back up and restore the registry, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:

    322756 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322756/ ) How to back up and restore the registry in Windows

    Network administrators can configure this setting by modifying the registry. To do this, set the FilterFilesWithUnknownExtensions DWORD value to 1 in the following registry key:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\ContentIndex"

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