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Trying To Find White House Missing E-mails

Gov IT writes "On Wednesday a federal court ordered all employees working in the Bush White House to surrender media that might contain e-mails sent or received during a two and a half year period in hope of locating missing messages before President-elect Barack Obama takes over next week."

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  1. Finding Stuff by KingAlanI · · Score: 5, Funny

    They are unable to find Iraqi WMDs either - maybe the emails have also long since been destroyed.

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    1. Re:Finding Stuff by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sweet!, I've been waiting for UFC's answer to the Special Olympics!

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  2. Good Luck! by chill · · Score: 5, Funny

    For security purposes, it is a little known fact that Dick Cheney was a major proponent in getting the entire Executive Branch to adopt RCF 2549 methods of transport. Message deletion consisted of a little "hunting accident" on the family ranch.

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  3. Re:What the hell is a federal court... by chill · · Score: 5, Funny

    That gives the phrase "judicial probe" a whole new meaning!

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  4. Cut GW some slack by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So they trumped up bogus evidence to started a bogus war that killed many thousand people and put a severe economic drain on the country.

    Is that really so bad?

    It's not like he got a blowjob or anything!

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  5. Re:And then what? by chill · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Don't you mean "respect the law"?

    I have no idea if they could even remotely find evidence that President Bush was directly responsible for the intentional destruction of evidence, but I seriously doubt it. But the law trumps the office. That is one reason we have a PRESIDENT, not KING.

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  6. Re:And then what? by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So it would be petty and irresponsible for us "enemies" of the current President to pursue this type of vindictive hounding because 4 years from now those same tactics will be used against a President I support.

    A) You seem to be lumping partisans who hate Bush alongside citizens who believe that public officials should follow the law.
    B) If Obama pulls the same bullshit I sure as hell hope that he gets endlessly hounded for it.

    Respect the office.

    The office means jack shit if the President doesn't respect the law and the constitution.

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  7. Oh hey, look, in the distance, that ship... by gorehog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...it's sailing away!

    Really people this is over.

    I'm a serious lefty. I hate war criminals because I am Jewish. I marched in Manhattan against the war in Iraq the February before it started. It happened. The crimes have been committed. We blindly followed zealots and morons into domestic and foreign policies that have ruined our nation morally and economically.

    My question is, what new things do you expect to learn? Is there any reason to read these emails? We know what they did and who is responsible. Maybe we don't have every gory detail. I doubt we need them. We could already try the major players.

    But what punishment would be appropriate? The point of investigating these actions would have been to stop them and we did not do enough, as the American Citizenry, to stop them. WE EVEN RE-ELECTED the criminals.

    We won't hang the offenders as is appropriate (Nuremberg anyone?), we won't hand them over to the victim nations. We didn't stop the crimes and as members of a democracy that makes us complicit.

    Imagine a parent who gives their kid a case of beer and the keys to the car. The kid gets drunk and drives the car through the neighbor's house. What would the neighbor think if all the parents did was ground the kid for a few weeks?

  8. Re:And then what? by EsJay · · Score: 5, Informative
  9. Re:Contempt of Court by Lord+Kano · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Of course, you convienently forget the emails that disappeared on the Clinton/Gore watch...

    LK

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  10. Re:And then what? by sumdumass · · Score: 5, Informative

    You do realize that Nixon was never impeached nor convicted of anything right?

    How can you expect anything you say to be taken seriously when you don't even have basic history right? It isn't like Nixon was another no eventful minor era in the history of the united states. You should at least have a basic understanding of it if your going to open your mouth on it.

  11. Re:Contempt of Court by PhreakOfTime · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Like I said, Im sorry that you also are in an environment where you think this is normal.

    Personal attacks aside, the point is that 700 days of email server records dont just vanish. If your job is to make backups and ensure data integrity, then that is your job. Period. Its quite easily doable, and there are options available other than 'tapes'. It all depends on your personal cost/benefit profile.

    If you arent willing to do what it takes to ensure your data integrity, then it isnt very important data. It is not wise to apply your life experiences to the rest of the world. What you are describing sounds like some backwards office in a strip mall. Im just guessing here, but I would think the requirements for U.S government duties when it comes to backing up and insuring integrity of data are spelled out pretty clearly in a law somewhere. I wont quote Title/Section for you, as Im sure you can look it up yourself if you so desire.

    I liked this line the best;
    "A lot of times, this doesn't go back further then 6 months because it is expensive to keep large volumes of unneeded data sitting around"
    Unneeded data? Your choice of words betrays your mindset, as it applies to your understanding of the subject at hand.