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Wireless Internet Access Uses Visible Light, Not Radio Waves

An anonymous reader writes to tell us that a company has demonstrated a new form of wireless communication that uses light instead of radio waves. "Its inventor, St. Cloud resident John Pederson, says visible-light embedded wireless data communication is the next step in the evolution of wireless communications, one that will expand the possibilities in phone and computer use. The connection provides Web access with almost no wiring, better security and with speeds more than eight times faster than cable."

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  1. light hax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    im in ur bawx stealin ur photons

  2. Warning! by Fjandr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Looking at the access point can cause severe retinal burns. We are not responsible for retinal damage or permanent blindness as a result of using our product. Thank you, and have a nice day.

    1. Re:WARNING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I got that warning after my first goatse encounter. I've been really cautious since.

    2. Re:Warning! by zappepcs · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, but retinal damage only occurs when using P2P protocols to share pr0n according to this flashy brochure the preacher man gave me.

  3. WARNING! by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    WARNING!
    Do not look at the internet with your remaining eye.

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  4. It's called free space optics by eobanb · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's called free space optics. The technology has been around a long time, in fact, and for a while it was fairly common on laptops. It was called IrDA, and though it was fairly short range you could use it to transfer files, establish a TCP/IP connection, etc.

    I remember playing a Starcraft game with an iMac G3 and PowerBook G3. A friend and I used AppleTalk over IrDA. Unfortunately it was rather awkward since they had to line up, but we figured out you could bounce the infrared beam with mirrors. So we didn't need ethernet, we could play wirelessly...this was in 1998, long before 802.11b became mass-market.

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    1. Re:It's called free space optics by should_be_linear · · Score: 5, Interesting

      And here is GPL'd design: http://ronja.twibright.com/

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  5. Next step?? by PsyciatricHelp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Last time I checked light doesn't travel through my wall. Radio waves do.

    1. Re:Next step?? by snowraver1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I read an article about this or similar technology several months ago. Sure, light doesn't do through walls, but that could be an advantage. You could setup a wireless network that asctually stops at the building perimiter.

      The other article (not sure if this one does didn't read it) indicated that this technology could be incorporated into LED lighting. Basically your overhead lighting would become the access point. There would be recievers in the room as well that would pick up your transmissions and presumably put them on some sort of physical media (cat6, fibre). Pretty neat, but to me sound extremely finicky.

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    2. Re:Next step?? by geobeck · · Score: 5, Funny

      I read an article about this or similar technology several months ago. Sure, light doesn't do through walls, but that could be an advantage. You could setup a wireless network that actually stops at the building perimeter.

      Yes, but it would be easy to gain unauthorized access to your wireless network if you have windows.

      Why does that sound familiar?

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    3. Re:Next step?? by MadnessASAP · · Score: 5, Funny

      Great, now I can watch the girl next door change AND leech her wireless with my telescope.

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  6. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They're both part of the electromagnetic spectrum.

  7. Now I guess we need ... by SWPadnos · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tinfoil glasses :)

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  8. Re:huh? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is where you are wrong, sir. And you can test it yourself. Create an HTML document and set the background color past "#FF0000". Crank it up to "#ZZ0000" and your monitor will then begin blasting radio waves at your face.

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  9. Re:But... by mpoulton · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Light" is almost always used to refer exclusively to the visible (and near-visible [IR, UV]) portion of the EM spectrum.

    Well, to be pedantic, scientists often use "light" to refer to higher energy radiation too. It's not commonly used for wavelengths longer than far IR, but it is commonly used for X-ray and even extremely short wavelengths - like "synchrotron light".

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  10. Re:huh? by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Use Tempest for Eliza and it'll transmit radio at you for real rather than generating a minor html error :P

  11. Re:He needs to think twice by CaptainPatent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can you image how annoying it would be to have light flickering around you all the time from your communicating devices?

    You know that thing you looked into when you typed your message. Be it a CRT, LCD or Plasma, it flickers at 40-120 times per second.

    Communication applications would flicker even faster to the point you wouldn't notice unless you sent a constant string of 0's or 1's.

    Don't get me wrong, I still think it's a bad idea for line of sight and other interference reasons, but flicker is near the bottom of that list.

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  12. Re:He needs to think twice by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can you image how annoying it would be to have light flickering around you all the time from your communicating devices?

    Oh, cut the bleeding heart crap, will ya? We all have our switches, lights, and knobs to deal with. At this very moment I surrounded by hundreds of thousands of blinking and beeping lights, blinking and beeping and flashing and flashing and I can't take it anymore! They're blinking and beeping and flashing! Why can't anyone stop it? Why doesn't someone pull the plug?!

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  13. Re:huh? by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, it seems like they're drawing a couple suspect distinctions in this article. They talk about "light" as being very different from "radio" even though they're both EM radiation, and they talk about "using light" as very different from "using fiber optics", even though it's really just a difference of medium.

    I don't really see it working out. We already use that portion of the EM spectrum for... you know... seeing. I guess you could claim that being easily blocked (e.g. by walls) is an advantage, but for most people in most circumstances, being able to pass through lots of materials would be a greater advantage. If you really want tighter security, then instead of relying on walls to block the signal, this technology could be improved by creating some sort of conduit that would go directly from one point to another. Like some kind of fibrous, wiry, cable-like structure between them. I'm sure that would be much better than fiber optics.

  14. Re:But... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Informative

    Come on!

    Yes it says "light" in the title and ScuttleMonkey-added text. The very first sentence of the actual user submission specifies "visible light". Once that context is established, "light" is a perfectly valid shorthand way to refer to it, and is often (though admittedly not always) used in that way.

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  15. This has been around a long time. by John+Sokol · · Score: 4, Informative

    1.) There is TCP/IP over Infrared (IrDA) and comes standard on Windows and works also in Linux.
      http://web.pdx.edu/~mendyke/ip7780.html

    2.) there are many laser link systems out there.
        I even worked on one.
        http://www.dnull.com/zebraresearch/company-mail.html

    3.) The 802.11 standard also includes the 802.11 Infrared (IR) Physical Layer. 802.11 IR defines 1Mbps and 2Mbps operation by bouncing light off ceilings and walls to provide connectivity within a room or small office. This infrared version of the standard has been available since the initial release of the 802.11 standard in 1997.

    4.) Spectrix Corporation of Mundelein, Illinois had a proprietary solution for this. I think they are out of business now.
    http://books.google.com/books?id=QZrrXcs1R9gC&pg=RA1-PA207&lpg=RA1-PA207&dq=%22Spectrix+Corporation+%22&source=bl&ots=kMxMofcTd7&sig=qd4QvwoREWQloJKwnpmp63j-Z-I&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result

    If you explore the link above from the book "Wireless Computing" By Ira Brodsky Published by John Wiley and Sons, 1997. This book goes in a lot of detail about many IP over optical solutions available at that time.

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  16. Utter bullshit by topham · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article is utter bullshit.

    Using light, as opposed to radio waves is NOT more secure, unless the room has no windows, or others areas for light to escape.
    Wiring a room to support it could easily cost $300 (you still need atleast one network drop to the room, and mount the transmitter).

    Are there environments where the slight advantages it has may be worth it? sure. but they will be so rare that the cost of the device will stay quite high.

    THe article looks like a puff piece designed to lure in investors.

  17. Re:But... by Boglin · · Score: 4, Funny

    We also occassionally use "light" as an antonym for "heavy".

  18. Re:But... by simcop2387 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Astronomy

  19. Re:You're right beside me? by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It does. On the other hand, you need to paint over all the windows.

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