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Chu's Final Breakthrough Before Taking Office

KentuckyFC writes "While preparing for the job of US Secretary of Energy in the incoming Obama administration (and being director of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and a Nobel Prize winner to boot), Steven Chu has somehow found time to make a major breakthrough in the world of atom interferometry. One measure of an interferometer's sensitivity is the area that its arms enclose. Chu and colleagues have found a way to increase this area by a factor of 2,500 by canceling out the noise introduced by lasers, which work as beam splitters sending atoms down different arms (abstract). One thing this makes possible is the use of different types of atoms in the same interferometer, allowing a new generation of tests of the equivalence principle. (This is the assumption that the m in F=ma and the m's in F= Gm1.m2/r^2 are the same thing). Let's hope he's got equally impressive breakthroughs planned for his encore as US Secretary of Energy."

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  1. I know, right? by Shaitan+Apistos · · Score: 5, Funny

    (This is the assumption that the m in F=ma and the m's in F= Gm1.m2/r^2 are the same thing).

    That's what she said.

    1. Re:I know, right? by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 5, Funny

      (This is the assumption that the m in F=ma and the m's in F= Gm1.m2/r^2 are the same thing)

      Bah! Just another example of More-of-the-Same! Where's the change we were promised from the Obama Administration!

      Just another example of an Obama appointee trying to maintain a status quo!

  2. Interferowhatsjiggy? by gravos · · Score: 5, Informative

    In case you're an idiot like me, you might appreciate to know that interferometry is about studying the properties of two or more waves by looking at the pattern of interference created by their superposition. The instrument used to interfere the waves together is called an interferometer.

    What, you don't remember this stuff from Physics 101? Shame on you...

    1. Re:Interferowhatsjiggy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      And seriously, who here in /. does _not_ know what it is.

      People with mod points.

    2. Re:Interferowhatsjiggy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What was the point of your post? If you are, as you say, too stupid to know what interferobolloxs is then why would you make a post to explain it to us? And seriously, who here in /. does _not_ know what it is.

      The point is, intelligent people with a better-than-average knowledge of physics may not be familiar with atom interferometry. He didn't know what it was, researched it, and provided a definition for the benefit of others. That's being informative. Whining about how stupid it is to provide information because you're, admittedly, unfamiliar with the subject is flaming.

    3. Re:Interferowhatsjiggy? by fermion · · Score: 5, Informative
      An interferometer is a cool device. By splitting a single beam of light into two, we end up with two identical waves which can then be made to interfere to create patterns that can be observed with the unaided eye. The cool thing is that microscopic changes in path length result in macroscopic changes in the pattern.

      One of the neatest applications of this is the Michaelson Morely experiment. A the time of this work, theory was going back and forth between light as a wave and light as particle, and at the time light was a classical wave, which meant it needed a medium to travel, like sound needs air or water waves. It was theorized that the universe was saturated with an aether to carry the light. IIRC, it was theorized that as the Earth moved through the aether, there would be differences in the speed of light based on direction the light is going. In this work, a light beam was split, made to travel in perpendicular direction, and the difference in speed measured.

      No difference was measured. this implied that no aether existed. this implies that the waves traveled without a medium. This was quite a surprising result, and was the beginning of the end for classical mechanics. 10 years later we had quantized energy, 15 years later we had the photoelectric effect tell us light was a particle, and a few years after that we have matrix and wave mechanics.

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    4. Re:Interferowhatsjiggy? by HiVizDiver · · Score: 5, Funny

      And seriously, who here in /. does _not_ know what it is.

      *raises hand*

      Some of us don't have time to learn EVERYTHING, since we do go outside every once in a while. That's that bright place between your folks' basement and the D&D store, btw.

    5. Re:Interferowhatsjiggy? by symbolset · · Score: 5, Informative

      I wonder if the noise this breakthrough removed was the same noise observed there or a ddifferent kind?

      Neither. The world-as-you-know it is imaginary. The rest of us are really not here. All of this stimulus is being fed directly into your brain by a computer. You're in a coma, and not likely to recover. Sorry, dude. We'll make it look as close to real as we can. (Roll cheerleader porn).

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  3. Obviously... by overzero · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obviously this is just an attempt by the democrats to distract from the nation's problems as Obama takes office. They should be ashamed of themselves for exploiting the public's interest in atom interferometry this way.

  4. For the Record... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    From http://arXiv.org/auth/show-endorsers/0901.1819 :

    Holger Müller: Is registered as an author of this paper.

    Sven Herrmann, Sheng-wey Chiow and Steven Chu are not registered as owners of this paper.

    Sure, it doesn't nail down who did what exactly, but if I had a question about the paper, I'm asking Holger first.

    1. Re:For the Record... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      According to http://arxiv.org/help/not-registered.html, Steven Chu may not be a registered owner for as simple a reason as not having a user account with that website.

      That said, Mueller is listed as final author of the paper and Steven Chu is listed second to last, which pretty much throws all assumptions based on position out the window. (See http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=562 for a comedic but sadly true primer).

      Mueller served as a postdoc under Chu but both are professors. Based on Mueller's other publications (http://www.physics.berkeley.edu/research/faculty/mueller.html) and Chu's second-to-last position, I'd say the other two names are postdocs in his lab. Really, I'd ask those two if you want to know the specifics on this experiment. Blind guess at Chu's role, but probably functionally a PI - more of an adviser role.

  5. So Let me get this straight by voss · · Score: 5, Funny

    Our incoming president reads spiderman comics and his secretary of energy is some incredible nobel prize winning genius who ran a program called "Bio-X", can we possibly get more nerdy?

    1. Re:So Let me get this straight by MrMista_B · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Our incoming president reads spiderman comics and his secretary of energy is some incredible nobel prize winning genius who ran a program called "Bio-X", can we possibly get more *AWESOME*?

      There, fixed that for you.

  6. Re:Unfortunately... by joocemann · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...the article didn't say who did the work.

    Just the politician whose name is attached to it.

    unfortunately.. you don't understand whats going on.... the man being selected for the DOE position is a scientist, not a politician. And while preparing to become a politician, he still made progress as a scientist.

    It says who did the work. Steven Chu. He will soon become a politician who has actually done something in life.

  7. Re:great researcher not a great manager make by WindBourne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You are right. Many researchers would not make a good manager. OTH, Dr. Chu is ALREADY director of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and doing a good job. I am guessing that he will do a bang up job as nation director. Far too often politicians bring in more politicians because they LIKE the person, not because the person is qualified to lead. In this case, Chu is not likely to be BSed.
    In light of the idiots that we have had directing the science world for the last 8 years (and to be honest even in Clinton and reagans terms), this is refreshing.

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  8. Re:Wrong experience ? by artor3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    He's the director of a research institute with over four thousand employees and a half billion dollar budget. I think he can handle the managerial stuff just fine.

  9. Re:Qualifications by Anpheus · · Score: 5, Informative

    As has been pointed out many, many, ... many times before.

    He's the director, as in, head honcho, manager type, of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, a Department of Energy funded facility. He's undoubtedly familiar with the rules and regulations of the DoE. In addition, he directs a staff over -over- four thousand scientists and management, and commands a budget -over- five hundred million dollars annually.

    How is he not qualified, again?

  10. Re:Unfortunately... by Maxmin · · Score: 5, Informative

    He will soon become a politician who has actually done something in life.

    What's more, he's replacing a typical D.C. corporate revolving-door appointment, Samuel Bodman. The man sat on his thumbs while energy prices trebled during Bush's time. He came from Wall Street ferchrisakes, and he'll probably head back to the corporate world, where I'm sure he'll be heartily welcomed for taking up the business agenda while at DOE.

    With Chu, there's a pretty good chance he'll point DOE in a new direction, towards funded research for actual energy alternatives.

    Good riddance to the Bush robber barons.

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  11. Oh really? by symbolset · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The highest IQ guy I've ever met (that I know about) drove a car for a living and aspired to not work any harder than he had to. His greatest aspiration was to get laid today if he could. He seldom met this goal. His IQ was measured at 165. He was interesting to talk to. Most people aren't.

    His hero was Groo the Wanderer.

    What did this experience teach me about intelligence? Exactly nothing. Which is what I gained from your post. But at least you didn't puke in my shoes like he did.

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  12. Re:Nice Change by Improv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know a lot about Chu, but over the years I've worked at a University, I've come to the conclusion that people skills and scientific skills are largely orthoganal - some people have both, but a number of researchers are either extraordinarily shy and nonconfrontational or egomaniacs, neither of which make good leaders. I hope that Chu is of the sort that's good at both.

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  13. Re:Unfortunately... by Dhalka226 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I sincerely hope that too. I have no idea where "[presidential candidate] is an average person like me" suddenly became a virtue, but it's disheartening. I won't speak for anybody else, but I don't want the president or other high-ranking officials to be average or as smart as me. I want them to be brilliant. I want them to be so brilliant that no matter how smart I am, I feel like an idiot every time he speaks.

    Obviously there are other qualities that are important. Being brilliant is essentially meaningless if it also means indecisive. But yes, I want politicians who hear all sides of arguments, consider all sides of arguments--UNDERSTAND all sides of arguments. Then make whatever choice they think is the best based on their intelligence and the knowledge they've just gained. I have no idea why we would settle for less, but we consistently do. There are certainly many others on both sides of the isle, but Bush would have to be the poster child for people with mediocre minds and no concern for expert opinion doing whatever they please without hearing from anybody who disagrees.